Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR ill vote Natural too if i must but i find Cultural has a very good use. like i said scum already has a great roadmap to what town took. town is the one who benefits more from this in the long run

Just vote it so we can get started with the real game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What do you think of him warming up to the possibility of you being scum? One of his posts that made me Town read him was (paraphrasing) ABR did this. If he was obvious Town and assume you are Town and that would make his reads wrong why would scum kill obvTown whose reads were wrong?

His vote for Vecna was because he saw something. His vote for me was mindless appeasement of my detractors to shake things up and see what would happen. He promptly backed off from me and went for Beeboy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Frogger was also the only player who tried to unite me and DEO. By removing him, they hoped to achieve further chaos and division, in addition to removing a player who was widely townread and trusted. Wherever Frogger voted, people followed, which he remarked upon himself and which unnerved him. He was the one player that could be counted on to lead a united town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What do you think of Yuri?~~Math

Town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If ABR and DEO could pretend each other are masons and started to look for scum, that'd be good.

I have common reads with Mathblade, we could potentially work together against all expectations.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mathblade, who are your townreads and scumreads? Thanks.

[Albert B. Rampage]

A&N tried. Sodham tried.

A&N is my main suspect and Titus suspects Sodham. That can't work.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This also goes against you strongarming the lynch onto Beeboy. You said you could lead this town then. Can you not lead it now? I find this response fishy.

I decided from the start of this game I didn't want to lead the town. I need variety. Others can lead and I'll follow. I followed Frogger onto Beeboy. Spiffeh to a certain extent as well. I'll continue to play a support role. If I lead, Titus will freak.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Giving ABR space to wreck things is why shit went south yesterday.

Let's set the record straight. My ideal lynch was Vecna, not Beeboy. In every game we've been in where I was town, you're the one who wrecked things.

[Albert B. Rampage]

A+N or DEO is the days lynch. EOD.

vote:Natural

These are my two hardest townreads. Talk to me about this?

I'm gonna spill the beans since ABR kinda did already, other head of A&N is Yume and she was posting a lot at the start of the game, which is something she just flat doesn't do as scum. Alisae is always all over the place.
The DEO has done something that MathBlade would never allow as scum because Math takes pride in their scumgame. The whole post ban sequence and how upset Math got from that doesn't jibe with a scum!Math, and as scum Math would be less likely to have Titus say the shit about them that Titus said.

I don't agree that Yume is incapable of stringing together some posts at the start of the game, or that her other head is unable to copy her style and post on her behalf pretending to be her.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Giving ABR space to wreck things is why shit went south yesterday.

Let's set the record straight. My ideal lynch was Vecna, not Beeboy. In every game we've been in where I was town, you're the one who wrecked things.

Yeah, and your ego is this. Stop "setting the record straight" to throw shade at town.

If you want not to die, work with town and stop bringing up the past. I have great games without you, and will continue to do so.

I don't give a fuck, Titus. Stop talking to me. Talk to Mathblade and settle on one position together.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mathblade/Titus may be the most dysfunctional hydra I've ever seen. Agree on things before coming here and polluting the thread with a million posts, half of which are direct insults to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Whatever, convince your sister to vote for Ceasar and I'll throw my hat in because I'm tired of fighting with you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Can you please give a quick blurb on each player ABR?

Town: Yuri, Spiffeh, davesaz, Maxou, Sondam and Nero.
PV: He's actually doing stuff in this game, it's good. Townlean.
ssbm, Caesar, Elbirn: not enough posts.
Creature, Leon: IDK
NoticeMeSenpai: I don't like his post calling A+N town based on irrelevant meta.
Scum: Vecnar, LUV, A+N

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Vecna

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Vecna

That's my townread.

VOTE: ABR

What are your thoughts on Leon and Creature?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Both town.~Titus

So basically anyone who is against me is town. All the scum have decided to join my side. Got it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Both town.~Titus

So basically anyone who is against me is town. All the scum have decided to join my side. Got it.

Who are opposing you?

The scumbags I've caught: Vecnar, LUV, A+N.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You think I'm scum because I claimed PR on D1 LOL

Yes we caught you slipping Day 1. Credit to frogger may his soul RIP.

[Albert B. Rampage]

NoticeMeSenpai, do you still scumread Vecnar?

[Albert B. Rampage]

The scumbags I've caught: Vecnar, LUV, A+N.

I have town leans on all of them

Can you explain why you're scum reading them?

Vecnar, because his thoughts made NO SENSE when he moved from Yuri to Beeboy to me and back to Beeboy. The whole thing reeks of scum.

A+N, super shady and opportunistic.

LUV, you can catch him slipping Day 1.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mathblade, your scumreads are the following:

LUV
Spiffeh
Yuri
Vecna

So why are you arguing with me about LUV when we agree? Why are you not helping us with Vecna?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I scumread LUV and Vecna for reasons that make sense.

What are those reasons?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I prefer following my intuition with players than having explanations. I'm more of a go with my gut type of player.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I prefer following my intuition with players than having explanations. I'm more of a go with my gut type of player.

You gave explanations in Shadowrun.

You need to understand that without them you look like scum literally picking anyone to me.
And it is 3x harder to sort you.

~~Math

I was scum in Shadowrun. I explain when I'm scum so I look like town. As town, I don't explain.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I prefer following my intuition with players than having explanations. I'm more of a go with my gut type of player.

You gave explanations in Shadowrun.

You need to understand that without them you look like scum literally picking anyone to me.
And it is 3x harder to sort you.

~~Math

I was scum in Shadowrun. I explain when I'm scum so I look like town. As town, I don't explain.

You were Town I was scum.

Are you trying to piss me off? You lost the game by vigging KC.

Wtf Sis can we please lynch this?

TThis is the third time he has outright lied.

~~Math

I was hydra'ing with your sister in Shadowrun..........we were scum..........

[Albert B. Rampage]

Shadowrun and Cyberpunk have similar flavor.

oh right I conflated the two.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: A+N

[Albert B. Rampage]

A&N needs rope.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nice deflection scumbag.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Happy valentines day, Titus!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mastin try to sign your posts.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mathblade which Drixx posts did you find town? He was neutral to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Brian Skies = Caesar to me pretty much.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mainly where he offered to pick up Pyramids and be copped and treestumped and his replace out.

Drixx's value is late game if he is Town.

And he tried to leverage that.

He also tried to fight for what he believed in the arts resolution point.

~~Math

Not good enough.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Vecnar

[Albert B. Rampage]

Stop begging Titus, it's unbecoming.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No, it's pathetic. You pull your knives out for me and try to lull the others with sweet talk. It's all a ruse to turn the tables on me and get what you want. You can't overwhelm the thread when I'm in the game and you hate it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You can't beat me with numbers. You can't beat me with heigthened activity. It's over for you. Leave your feelings under the bed tomorrow morning, meet me halfway, and we'll scumhunt.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I want Spif, Deo, Elbrin, Vecna, Uzi, and Frogger to be my mason buddies.

-Nebby

You are a fool in the process of being endgamed.

Like this is the only post that I really feel is kinda scummy. Like he's scum and telling us that he's gonna kill us all. But then I also feel like Titus' d1 case on him that he was "lurking" was p weak and Ali blaming him for the Yuri wagon and EOD is p horrible...so sure...I kinda feel like he's town.

I remember when I posted that. I was on reddit. A canadian wrote an uber long post about shorting Apple. Martin Shkreli responded "You are a fool in the process of going broke." I copied the line lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Math I didn't like the replace out. And scum don't need to coordinate, they just do what they can to pretend they look town and it was a good position to have. Nothing he cant do as scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Dave should we lynch Vecna?

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR please.

Caesar is a townread.

And Creature to answer your question Spiffeh and LUV.

~~Math

I'm voting our mutual scumread Vecna.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Caesar

DEO, you could have just... not claimed Stonehenge.

Wow I'm so glad one of our most useful roles just lost all utility it would have had if it remained secret

Agreed. What a stupid play.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, you want to do the honors and shoot me?

I don't vig townreads.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Accept that I'm town. Let Mathblade scumhunt. Play like Mastin does, as an advisor who keeps her peace in the thread. Then we can get on with this game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, you want to do the honors and shoot me?

I don't vig townreads.

Yeah, you've lynched me before. You don't want this gamestate resolved. Just vig us.

I am literally asking you to silence us. All you have to do is do it. You think I am antitown and suck anyway, so what's your problem? Want a punching bag?

I told you what I want. Your slot is obvtown and Mathblade is a good player. Not only good but influential and can bring together a coallition. You don't have that ability because you're too volatile and stubborn.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wrong. I always try to win, it isn't personal.

[Albert B. Rampage]

By claiming you just guaranteed saving yourself at night from NK and no saelne vig would go through with your insane plan. Congratulations, we're stuck together.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You've lost your marbles, Titus, I'm going to leave you be for a week until you regain your composure.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And for the sake of this town we both better start building some trust between us because we're both town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We are both too controversial to NK so we will be back here day 3, day 4, etc.

We have to build trust.

You have a week to put your emotions away.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR where are you at with Caesar?

I see your scum reads and disagree on pretty much every single one.

It's an OK lynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We are both too controversial to NK so we will be back here day 3, day 4, etc.

We have to build trust.

You have a week to put your emotions away.

Which is why we must be vigged.

You are playing to people's emotions by claiming I have to "put my emotions away". I thought about this for days before approaching Math. The game needs our death.

Painting me as unreasonable/emotional rather than considering others is a dick move ABR.

You're like a spoiled child threatening suicide and you need a timeout. This is the last post I will write to you until you think long and hard about what's good for this town. Not for what ends your "suffering". It's a game, try to enjoy yourself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum will night kill me because they will never be able to get me lynched and I had soft a PR a while back.

Why are you saying you softed?.

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

WHO SOFTS IN THIS GAME

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Leonshade

I liked this vote yesterday. But, today Leon is doing more and looks to be trying to figure people out.

Who else you got?

Who have YOU got?

[Albert B. Rampage]

carnal relations with his wife.

What?

They're doing it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

PV why aren't you voting LUV if you scumread him? Who else do you scumread?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum probably laughing in the background as we speak right now.

AKA you and Vecna

[Albert B. Rampage]

Stop claiming

Too late. Although DEO is just trying to draw the NK, since I took Stonehenge too.

PV why aren't you voting LUV if you scumread him? Who else do you scumread?

C'mon ABR. Where do you get I'm scumreading Uzi from?

Who do you scumread? Who do you want to lynch?

[Albert B. Rampage]

PEREGRINEV WHO ARE YOUR SCUMREADS AND TOWNREADS?

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: PeregrineV

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: PeregrineV

Don't like my lynch list?

Your "list" is a regurgitation of the bottom posters in activity excluding yourself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Honestly I'm fine with the plan.
DEO targets ABR with the Stonehenge, someone vigs DEO and that'll honestly solve a lot of problems going on here.

I agree with Maxou completely. This is the best plan.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: PeregrineV

Don't like my lynch list?

Your "list" is a regurgitation of the bottom posters in activity excluding yourself.

Hard to get reads when people don't post, and scum don't want to be read.

So, yes, I'd lynch them if day ended now.

And I'm in the top 12, and can pretty easily break the top 3, if that's important to catching scum.

It's kind of amazing how you don't suspect any of the active players with hundreds of posts. We're all town to you apparently?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pyramids is a useless PR. It's just a neighborizer. There are better PRs to reveal their alignment.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: LUV

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm fine lynching Caesar or LUV today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR is always going to vote in my townblock because's he's too proud or scum unless proven wrong.

Your "townblock" is 2/5 the players in this game. The other 2/5 are my townreads. The remaining are low content posters, lurkers, and trolls.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've quoted my own post 5 times since making it, so I'm not going to break down every person and how I feel about them for it to be totally unread.You got someone you want me to address, tell me who. How you feel and why gets you even more feedback about them.

LUV, Vecna, A+N, Caesar.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR is always going to vote in my townblock

because's he's too proud or scum unless proven wrong.

Your "townblock" is 2/5 the players in this game. The other 2/5 are my townreads. The remaining are low content posters, lurkers, and trolls.

No. My townblock are Spiffeh Vecna LUV Brian Skies and A and N. Shade them all you want. Their pms will not change.

I voted PV. Your woe is me boo hoo routine is patently false.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sondam you down to lynch Caesar?

[Albert B. Rampage]

OK DEO, get your people to vote Caesar, I'll get my people to do the same.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sondam you down to lynch Caesar?

Ehhhhhhhh

Let's do it. It will be better for everyone.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR lied about what Pyramids is. He called it a neighborizer.

He is Scum or Town who doesn't read.

~~Math

Lying means that my intention is to deceive. That's a mischaracterization. Your sister lied when, directly after my PV vote, she claims "I will only vote her townreads". Demonstrably false claim to try to make me seem uncompromising, while I am completely open to negotiation. Proven with my help to get Natural pushed through, and my compromising on Ceasar.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So she plays the bully for as long as she is in power, and when she loses that power, she plays the victim. What a piece of work. Bullies are nothing but vulnerable, scared little kids who lack the maturity and teamwork to achieve anything.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Sondham

PV, DEO, let's do this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not the problem here. The problem is that no matter who's side any of us take between your epic internal hydra battle, it does nothing because the one head will undo everything the other head does.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Caesar

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm having fun. If you're not then I'm sorry for you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm literally doing everything you want, from voting the players you want, to voting the resolutions you want, to pursuing new leads that you think are scummy. You don't have any room to complain about me "dividing the town", I'm doing every single thing that you claim you want.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I enjoy playing with Titus, she provides a foil to me, and I want to catch her when she's scum again, and I want to also slip by her when I'm scum again. It just doesn't work when we are both town lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm having fun. If you're not then I'm sorry for you.

That ship sailed games ago. I don't believe you. Apology not accepted. Now, let's get on putting Caesar in a pine box and shooting me. Thank you.

I didn't apologize because I did nothing wrong. I said

I feel sorry for you

. Everyone deserves to enjoy playing.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Sondham

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mathblade, why do you townread Sondham?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Problem is if we agree with Mathblade to lynch Vecna, Titus jumps up and down like a crazy person.

If we agree to go after Titus' scumread Sondham, Mathblade does the exact same thing.

So all we can lynch are lurkers now? That's not mafia. Your whole hydra is impeding progress, because you're obvtown, and we

want

to listen your good ideas but you can't present a united front in your own hydra.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well Nero and I want to scumhunt Sondha who you also suspect. You're doing yourself a disservice by not helping us.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: ABR

This game is devolving into ABR vs DEO... again.

ABR, why are you throwing your vote around so much? Is there more purpose to it than antagonizing Titus/MathBlade?

Because we're going nowhere with Titus' drama bullshit. She's dominating the thread throwing a pity party for herself, claiming, acting out, blaming me for the negative feelings she projects on me.

I'm trying to get the game back on track by pushing different bandwagons and encouraging new ideas so we can gain information.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're my strongest townread. One of you tell me where you want me to vote so we can join forces and lynch scum. And tell the other one to suck it up. Stop arguing with me and with each other. The three of us can work together. Respect is earned, but I recognize the need to win this game by stopping this madness.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're my strongest townread. One of you tell me where you want me to vote so we can join forces and lynch scum. And tell the other one to suck it up. Stop arguing with me and with each other. The three of us can work together. Respect is earned, but I recognize the need to win this game by stopping this madness.

You stop the madness by not acting like you are a better human being than us and stop saying which one of us you think is a better player. You do this by listening to the obviously town voices in this thread who have been together for days.

You cannot take that though, so we both must die. It's a sad state really.

There's no obviously town player in this game to me, besides you. You pulled the same crap in SAGA exactly one year ago when molly said I was town and you wouldn't accept it, you wouldn't accept any of your reads were wrong, you wouldn't be reasonable with any of us, not me, not Yosarian, not Drixx, not anyone. Please. Step aside. I won't insult anyone if you replace out of your hydra. You're dominating the game with this "Albert thinks he's better than everyone" crap and no one wants to hear it. No one. Go away, please. I have been perfectly respectful to Mathblade and everyone else alive here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus please ask for a replacement. You shouldn't play in this game anymore.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm travelling until Tuesday.

Mod: Please note my V/LA

gotchaa

[Albert B. Rampage]

Little known fact, the Titus townblock inverse is an effective scumhunting technique taught across U.S. Ivy League colleges.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Little known fact, the Titus townblock inverse is an effective scumhunting technique taught across U.S. Ivy League colleges.

ABR please stop shading Titus when she is no longer in the game. I am lurking now that I get a chance to breathe and see what others are saying. Please.

My sister may have been uncooperative and IMHO on the mean side and demanding but shit like this doesn't make me want to work with you either.

Let me lurk in peace without the Titus attacks.

I wasn't attacking anyone, I was pointing out a valid strategy, just sayin.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not attacking anyone, I think we should look into this technique that is taught by professors at the top of their field, don't take it from me, educate yourselves, people!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Remember Je suis Charlie after the cartoonists in France were attacked by radical islamist terrorists? That's what he's referring to.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Seems like a joke in very poor taste.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Don't lynch me without a claim. I am going to america for a convention and I'll be back Tuesday. Don't run me up til I get back.

Bye guys!

[Albert B. Rampage]

I left at the same time last year for the same convention just look up Saga game. Not dodging anything. No internet access in US.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Vecna

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm tired. Kinda caught up. Had access to wifi during trip and checked out the thread. Nothing much has changed. Thread is stalling because I'm town.

Mathblade, not paying attention to mechanics doesn't make me scum, just makes me not focused on the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I built the statue of Zeus. If I'm confirmed as town, scum can't kill me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who was your night1 target?

Titus

[Albert B. Rampage]

No scum would kill me except Titus N1 lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't think that changes anything. Scum would gladly pick that to avoid getting vigged, plus they have the bonus of being able to be guaranteed a vig shot gets redirected to someone not on their team.

Mathblade has an ability that can confirm me as town, and then we have guaranteed town surviving NKs which is scum's nightmare.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vecna is having nightmares right now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm NK-immune and if I'm investigated eventually, town will have guaranteed town all the way until LYLO.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm obviously town behaviorally anyway, but you can waste an investigation on me if you want. Either way I'm the biggest threat to scum until we draft a cop.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Stop quivering in your boots, Vecna It's making me feel bad for you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Like I am pretty damn certain ABR isn't Statue of Zeus and if he is then he fucked up by lying all over the thread again. At this point I am done with compulsive liars claiming to be town. Truthtell or GTFO of this game.

Like where did I intentionally lie? I made some assumptions or didn't remember some setup details here or there, nothing catastrophic lmao.

I'm town. Zeus.

Congratulations.

MB is a perfect case study of confirmation bias.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah whatever.
@ABR: who will you redirect to please?

im dead

[Albert B. Rampage]

If ABR had any intention of building Zeus he dpesn't go out of his way to be that loud and save Yuri and create discord. That is a good way to not be NK'd.

I built Zeus at the end of Day 1, before night.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@ABR: who will you redirect to please?

doesn't matter, I won't be NK'd tonight lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'll use it on whoever you want

[Albert B. Rampage]

You are behaving badly MB.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: SSBM

[Albert B. Rampage]

But he isn't Zeus.

I am.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I made a mistake drafting this role. I didn't think too hard about it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

gg