Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

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Oh, Leon, Elbirn and ssbm_Kyouko too.

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idk, I have Sondam (though, not so much rn), Fro99er, Caesar Wills it, you, atleast one of my scumreads, maybe ABR

How did i change from a town read to a scum read of yours?

idk, I had a feeling you were town, now I have meta.

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Though, I could listen to you, just lead me to scum.

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And if Yuri turns out to be town, I don't want scum to get out so easily.

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If Yuri is town, what do we have?

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Okay, gonna check again, maybe I judged one only game too much.

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Basic differences: Planning lynches =/= Lining up mislynches

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Creature is actively trying to change that meta of his.

I (maybe) can fake activity, I can't fake determination.

[Creature]

Don't give me "activity"

Creature is actively trying to change that meta of his.

Activity was my previous townread on you, though activity isn't AI anymore for you.

[Creature]

And you are determined to derail this Yuri lynch

I'm determined to not let scum get away if Yuri turns out to be town.

Also, we have a couple of days left.

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Sorry davesaz, town is still the majority here.

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I actually wanted to get a good read on Fro99er. I was strongly townreading him but I needed to check again.

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You're part of my experiments, when I have one nullread I want sorted someway, I scumread them (not pretend), even though I don't have a real read. Sometimes I can get to townread them, sometimes they turn out to be someone like MariaR. What matters is to get townreads.

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Btw, for those who think I am obvtown, maybe we should look at who's scumreading me.

If scum manages to make town mislynch it, it means they could manage to lynch most of the town, so they wouldn't want to waste that opportunity.

[Creature]

I feel like I'll be more productive later, so guide me.

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VOTE: Caesar

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Do you remember my list of townreads? Discard all my townreads, I'll share my true townreads when there's like 13 players left (if I survive).

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I don't really know how to feel about beeboy.

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Crying, he's gone, who one day
only made me cry

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I'll compromise on creature.
Kinda sick of him scumming this thread

*pretends to have no idea Creature is town*

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Town: Fro99er, Maxou, PV, Spiffeh
Scum: beeboy, Creature, LUV

"Where do astrophysical neutrinos come from?"

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Everybody who scumreads me:
Albert B. Rampage
Maxous
Nero Cain
Sondam
Vecna

Am I missing someone?

Suspicion =/= scumread.

idk, I like to keep track of who's scumreading me because I don't believe everybody scumreading me is town.

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That's 12 players.

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Yuri
beeboy
Leonshade
Caesar Wills It (Aeronaut & Pine)
ssbm_Kyouko
davesaz
Maxous
Sondam (MariaR & gerryoat)
NoticeMeSenpai (JaeReed & mastina)

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Creature, LUV, Beeboy

What's the name of the series?

Three tries.

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And I'm not opposing that wagon, so you're all fine.

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Link?

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My fuel is ending.

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If luv doesn't flip scum I'ma run outside naked saying I saw satan
~Maria

Address?

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Slightly opposing Yuri wagon even more.

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If I manage to convince you all to lynch davesaz and he flips scum, will I get nominated for Paragon of Mafia Hunters?

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I'm on mobile

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ABR fits as Albert Einstein easily, we don't know how he reaches his conclusions.

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Rockabye

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Tell me how many votes he has.

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Titus, guide me.

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Titus, guide me.

Vote ABR

I thought you opposed his lynch.

[Creature]

Rockabye Einstein

VOTE: ABR

[Creature]

Ugh, can't please all my townreads.

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A&N lining up lynches? Quick, lynch it with fire!

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Creature can you get off Dave lol

Already did.

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Yuri, it's not a "vanity vote" if other people help lynch him.
And I think plenty of others are willing to - in fact creature quoted them earlier.
I haven't read a lot of this but 9/10 times I see a creature post it suggests he ain't town.
And creature tends to be an easy town-read

Ugh when this might be a game-deciding vote.

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If pushing wagons were a game with ascending difficulty, Vecna would be level 1.

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Did it became a new rule that defending someone is scummy and I didn't know?

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Yeah, guess scum loved you as their D1 mislynch, luckily there are town that won't let this happen.

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Who are most likely scum in your wagon?

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Sorry, I'm unable to please someone terribly wrong.

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Could switch to beeboy.

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Ugh should've expected there to have black sheeps.

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He makes more sense than you tbh.

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I'd rather decide whether ABR or beeboy with discussion.

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Looks TvS

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Leaning on beeboy.

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ABR or beeboy need rope

Caesar's literally asking for rope

davesaz also needs rope

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Did scum daykill me and I didn't notice?

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Haven't you played PYP?

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Wouldn't oppose Leon.

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idk, what you expect LUV to do?

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I'm alive in so few games, therefore you might see me shitposting here mostly.

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Gonna wait opinions from others.

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"Luv's acting dif from pick your power?" Okay so what? He's never acted this way as town either so what's your point it feels so planned like that should be a big point seller -__-
~Maria

I'm wondering if you have a good reason he's scum or if you're hitting one of his playstyle issues.

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What would he do as town?

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Sticking to ABR. Even though lynching scum is good, we can only lynch one per day.

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How many votes beeboy is at?

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How many votes beeboy is at?

Waiting a concrete answer or a VC.

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Bah, whatever, I'll wait the VC.

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Post 4222

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Post 4223

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Have your pagetop Nahdia

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idk, I just tried to form a townblock and it made me do stupid things like getting paranoid of you.

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Caesar, SSBM, Leon, davesaz...

I might be missing something.

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beeboy is a lesser preference.

VOTE: beeboy

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Good

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Let's say I'll roll a 10-sided dice and if it rolls between 1 and X, I'll pick a resolution.

What should be X?

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Let's say I'll roll a 10-sided dice and if it rolls between 1 and X, I'll pick a resolution.

What should be X?

that you die.

Well, if I get NKed without a resolution, that wouldn't be too bad atleast.

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Waiting a serious answer before the thread locks.

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VOTE: Cultural

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I see players saying "wow cultural is horrible", "natural is bad, get none", tbh I don't really understand what's going on.

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UNVOTE:

Let me see Natural now.

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Natural seems like it might make some people try to build wonders that arent even there anymore.

Aren't we given the chance to try each night to build a wonder?

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Leonshade, Drixx, Yuri

I recommend checking these votes. They happened pretty quick.

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Terracita is top priority.

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Ugh, Terracita was mean't to be pro-town only. It's pretty powerful in scum's hands.

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Natural looks good.

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If you're interested to build a wonder other than Terracity, roll a dice:

1/5 = Build a wonder of your own
4/5 = Attempt to build Terracity

Otherwise

5/5 = Attempt to build Terracity

[Creature]

Or maybe

1/5 = No build
4/5 = Attempt to build Terracity

[Creature]

Okay, if someone turns out to be treestump, we know it's scum and we just ignore them.

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Can someone tell the advantages and disadvantages of picking Natural?

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Okay, if someone turns out to be treestump, we know it's scum and we just ignore them.

Stop saying wrong and bad things

I think town agreed they would leave The Pyramids for Drixx. Also, scum would want to be janitored upon being lynched, so why not pick The Pyramids for themselves?

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Okay, so what about:

If the treestump gets NKed or cleared, they're town.
If the treestump is getting lynched and flips scum, we'll treat them as scum treestump.

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Also, anyone understands the power of Terracity?

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Oh nvm, just noticed it's "Once per game"

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The Hanging Gardens - Doctor
The Pyramids - Self-Janitor Treestump
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus - Temporary Neighborizer
Stonehenger - Public Death Cop
Statue of Zeus - 1-shot passive Self-Redirector
The Great Lighthouse - Encryptor

The Oracle - 1-shot Yes/No Setup Asker (?)
Petra - Tracker
The Colossus - Permanent 1-shot Neighborizer
Terracity Army - 1-shot Vigilante
The Pantheon - Doctor

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Also, I want Natural, please.

Otherwise, prove why Natural is more bad than good.

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Feeling so restricted without talking about my townreads.

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We need wagons.

Caesar, anyone?

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Okay, I sorta wished someone anti-nature cooperated.

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We need wagons.

Caesar, anyone?

Why not start it?

It's Resolution duh

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Should vig be leashed?

- Yes, within a scumpool.
- No, but he/she must justify later or get lynched.

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We need wagons.

Caesar, anyone?

If not Caesar, say a name and I'll see what I can do about it.

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From Leon, Drixx and Yuri, I'm leaning on Yuri being the scum there.

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beeboy (11):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Elbirn, Albert B. Rampage, Fro99er, Creature, Akane and Nebby, Leonshade, Drixx, Yuri

beeboy's wagon

We could lynch outside it.

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Nero Cain
The DEO
Caesar Wills It
Lil Uzi Vert
Vecna
davesaz
Maxous
Sondam
NoticeMeSenpai

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or if you guys really think there is scum in the lurkers we could always lynch Elbrin.

(Finally) support this

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I've seen all-town wagons on scum and all scum on a scum wagon, but never saw an all scum on a town wagon.

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Nero Cain - Town
The DEO - Town
Caesar Wills It - Would lynch it
Lil Uzi Vert - Town
Vecna - Town
davesaz - Would lynch it
Maxous - idk
Sondam - Would lynch it
NoticeMeSenpai - idk

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Nero Cain
The DEO
Caesar Wills It
Lil Uzi Vert
Vecna
davesaz
Maxous
Sondam
NoticeMeSenpai

Yeah, how about no. This is an awkward as fuck chainsaw of ABR?

Why not lynch everyone who thought beeboy was town?

Is there someone on his wagon that thought he was town?

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beeboy (11):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Elbirn, Albert B. Rampage, Fro99er, Creature, Akane and Nebby, Leonshade, Drixx, Yuri

beeboy's wagon

We could lynch outside it.

Why should we lynch off the wagon instead of on the wagon?

How usual are lynchwagons on town containing all scum?

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Give names, please.

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"We should lynch those who did X"

Who?

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Not really up to lynch any of the surviving major counterwagons (ABR and Vecna).

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How usual are lynchwagons on town containing all scum?

there's not even 11 scum in this game. If by "all scum" you mean the whole scumteam then yeah it would be pretty rare but do you really think that Beeboy wagon went through without scum support? I mean its possible that those 11 players were just all bad tow and/or town that were sick of the day phase (I know I was) but I don't see any greater advantage to lynching off the wagon.

Yeah, I mean't the whole scumteam.

Yeah, there was some scum support, doesn't mean there aren't scum outside of it.

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I hate many of the proposed lynch options so far.

Vecna is the only one I'd consider that has been mentioned so far.

Without rereading their ISO's to clarify my position (which I hope to do later) right now I'm looking at davesaz, Leon, Caesar for scum

I support dave and Caesar.

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And guess what? Both of them are outside the beeboy wagon.

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The same reason that applies to all my townreads: You deserved it.

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Still don't get why people are town reading Maxous

Do you wanna play with Maxous?

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I'm waiting the VC rn.

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VOTE: Natural

I think it's 8 rn.

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3890 to 3902 expresses town!Vecna.

Maybe check it?

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Are scum like Dinossaurs or Aliens?

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Natural is one vote away from hammer.

Anything else?

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Scum are more likely to know what's not built

???

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VOTE: Natural

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Scum are more likely to know what's not built

???

this is very fucking misreppy

Just confused.

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You've not offered to work with me at all. You are still trying to wreck my game. It's evident in the choices you make.You're trying to insult my scumhunting and make it where you look to be the better person. I have my townreads. Unless you think you have the game solved, you can work within my possibilities.

OK well my townreads are Yuri, Spiffeh, davesaz, Maxou, Sondam and Nero. Who does that leave us with?

You are a fool in the process of being endgamed.

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Considered the players that were on you then hopped off?

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It has been scientifically proven that VCAs suck.

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Or atleast most.

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Akane and Nebby (Alisae & Malachite) - Town
Nero Cain - Town
Yuri - idk
The DEO (Titus & Mathblade) - Town
Leonshade - Town
Elbirn - Would lynch it
Drixx - Town
Caesar Wills It (Aeronaut & Pine) who replaced Julius Caesar (Aeronaut & Pine) - Would lynch it
Lil Uzi Vert - Town
Vecna - Town
ssbm_Kyouko* - Would lynch it
davesaz who replaced ooba* - Would lynch it
Maxous - idk
PeregrineV* - Town
Sondam (MariaR & gerryoat) - Would lynch it
NoticeMeSenpai (JaeReed & mastina) - idk
Albert B. Rampage* - idk
Spiffeh - Town

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Explanations come by pieces.

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There are yet so many players to lynch.

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"D1 can't be lurker lynch" is over now.

Any excuses to not lynch a lurker?

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They're my "idk" (I think Spiffeh is sorta moving down to "idk" too).

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Hey we're doing a good town work atleast.

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I could do Kyouko.

Or Elbirn

Or NOTICEMESENPAI

Or ABR.

Ceasar feels like a meh lynch, but itd join it as well.

They'd all do pure wagons (maybe ABR not so much), and not artificial peer pressure bs wagons.

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Lynching scum the earliest possible is always good.

Going after active players might give you scum, but some scum just go low-hanging. Them surviving a few nights might make a difference.

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You said in Memory I believe that you are more agreeable as mafia. Why is that not the case here?

???

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Hmm, I don't really remember what I mean't by "More agreeable"

[Creature]

Ctrl+F'd my In Memory ISO "agreeable", no results.

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Oh yeah, that's fair.

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If ABR and DEO could pretend each other are masons and started to look for scum, that'd be good.

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idk, the last three votes should be looked at.

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idk, the last three votes should be looked at.

Creature this is just telling me u havent looked at the context of those votes at all

What's it supposed to be?

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Ugh, it'll be harder to work with Math.

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Just guide me to scum this time.

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Uh oh, Math has a different view on Caesar.

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Scum: Vecnar, LUV, A+N

Ugh

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VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

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Both town.~Titus

So basically anyone who is against me is town. All the scum have decided to join my side. Got it.

Who are opposing you?

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Give names, not groups.

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Both town.~Titus

So basically anyone who is against me is town. All the scum have decided to join my side. Got it.

Who are opposing you?

The scumbags I've caught: Vecnar, LUV, A+N.

Any more?

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VOTE: Caesar

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Page 198

Trusting town we won't speedlynch.

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Page 200

Brian looking bad.

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Page 202

Notice good
Elbirn bad

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VOTE: Brian Skies

Town

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5082

Good

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(not in terms of read)

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I can confirm my predecessor failed to build the Pyramids.

Didn't Drixx claim he tried Doctor?

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Wonder why Maria is townread

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Saying I have no cred doesn't make me wrong. It means I keep trying no matter how painful or til someone explains where I am wrong.

Thing Mafia >> Suggest Andrius and Magna >> Get told I am not good/no cred/etc.

Memory >> Suggest RM or Drealmerz >> Most of the time get shade or AtE.

Like this is a thing. If I have no cred no need to say it. It will reveal itself as no cred.

The fact you are means I have cred.

~~Math

Looking at these facts, who's most likely scum?

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Page 206 smelling a mislynch wagon coming

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Dave probably isn't scum.

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I sorta want to avoid ABR and Vecna wagons.

ABR v beeboy v Vecna

All of these wagons seemed fabricated.

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Just guide me to scum this time.

In the middle of my catchup, but giving fair warning -- blatant coasting like this will only earn you an incompetence read for a little while -- after that it's screaming scum.

Don't say I haven't tried.

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Does someone have meta on davesaz?

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Page 209

Atleast someone looks worried to not quicklynch.

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Finished.

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Looks fair, if scum wants to get rid of you, they'll have to risk a cop guilty.

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idk, if beeboy, Caesar, The DEO and ABR are all town, we're doomed.

Let's aim for scum.

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Should we make The Pyramids claim (and assume that if it doesn't claim it's scum)?

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Still think that, if we lynch someone and it's a treestump, we treat him/her as scum.

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DEO's ridiculous agenda

You mean asking to be vigged?

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Frogger was also the only player who tried to unite me and DEO. By removing him, they hoped to achieve further chaos and division, in addition to removing a player who was widely townread and trusted. Wherever Frogger voted, people followed, which he remarked upon himself and which unnerved him. He was the one player that could be counted on to lead a united town.

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Opinions on this?

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Kyouko and Elbirn are also alternatives to Caesar.

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Creature are you the pyramids?

No

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carnal relations with his wife.

What?

[Creature]

I'm going to go fuck my wife.

Oh right

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Mod

Spoiler the post before this.

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What's wrong with taking Doctor or Tracker?

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No need to run and hide
It's a wonderful, wonderful life
No need to laugh or cry
It's a wonderful, wonderful life

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Scum probably laughing in the background as we speak right now.

Yeah, MariaR likes to laugh in the background.

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Investigate PV?

1. Yes, we can't let scum self-janitor themselves and lead us to mislynches.
2. No, PV is too town to waste an investigation on.

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Rolecop role is basically a stomp in the ass on scum.

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The Oracle feels like the mostest useless.

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Each night, you may ask the moderator a yes/no question about the setup as it existed before the game began.

aka doesn't include asking someone's alignment.

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Yeah PV I did.
I think LUV is town.

Do you think they knew the Classical Wonders on day1?

Wait, link it.

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Spiffeh is town yey

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Page 227

Was I force-replaced?

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Page 228

Still think vigging MathBlade is a waste.

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Spiffeh isn't the sort of player I would expect to replace out because he's being caught.

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#jesuiskyoukovigshot

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Je suis Charlie
We are Charlie

Je suis Kyouko vig shot
We are Kyouko vig shot

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Well, we got a bunch of townreads, we just need scum.

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I'd rather avoid any of ABR or Vecna wagon.

tbh the fact any of the ABR, beeboy and Vecna wagons D1 were moving around, I think all of them were town.

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Creature was the scum on the Maxous wagon imo.

Ugh when a good town player gets replaced by a not good town player.

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Remember when this thread was fruitful before nancy?

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If ABR gets modconfirmed town today, which wagon we join next?

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I feel like most of the players scumreading me come from me voting them.