~laundry~ FIN

[Fro99er]

I felled asleep

We still drinking wine?

[Fro99er]

Hey, it's Desperscummo still tunneling on me.

You think anyone's buying your shit?

Desp is town

[Fro99er]

This?

This is why the laundry doesn't get done.

*pours another glass of whiskey*

Where on the west coast if I may pry?

Spokanistan.

This...is actually acceptable. Washington and the Portland area are exempt from my East Coast snootiness.

Vegas too?

[Fro99er]

I think my head is officially in the game. I'm not going to bother reading the middle chunk of D1.

PEdit: NO. FUCK VEGAS. WHAT HAPPENS IN VEGAS NEEDS DISINFECTANT.

[Fro99er]

I think my head is officially in the game. I'm not going to bother reading the middle chunk of D1.

PEdit: NO. FUCK VEGAS. WHAT HAPPENS IN VEGAS NEEDS DISINFECTANT.

I can just provide some NOSE JAMMER

[Fro99er]

Bong hit time and tennis

Tennis

What is wrong with me

[Fro99er]

bottle empty

On to ththe next one

[Fro99er]

Nacho why are you voting Gerry?

[Fro99er]

Seems like scum are pretty content to lay low with only 72 hours left.

[Fro99er]

I don't think I mind an Andy vote but I think i want to do this more

VOTE: Nacho

[Fro99er]

I don't believe Nacho believes his gerry read. In fact he hasn't talked about it one bit and has been content to vote park there. And he doesn't seem particularly invested in finding scum.

[Fro99er]

I also didn't really see why he tried to reaction test Gerry with that L-1 thing. He said he wanted to see if Gerry would lolhammer. And Nacho is still parked there. I guess Gerry not voting didn't alleviate Nacho's read on him any, then what's the point? The only point is to find a way to implicate Gerry should he have actually voted.

[Fro99er]

I'm also really weirded out how nearly every time (or maybe every time) Nacho has mentioned me it's to defend/explain my actions.

[Fro99er]

@Pine there is 72 hours.

I will join a Creature wagon if it becomes a deadline thing, because Creature has been useless. But I'm more concerned with finding scum. Maybe Creature is, especially based off what everyone is saying about his meta. But I've had a hard time seeing scum in Creature's actual posts, mainly because he doesn't post anything useful (which is certainly a reason to consider him scum and at worst he's useless town). That's not saying he's town posting. He's nots. He's just useless.

However, I want to explore this because I haven't sorted Nacho (I was a hydra with Mollie in my only game where Nacho hydra' with i think notscience and I replaced out after less than a day phase and I was scum so I didn't have to sort him) and those things I mentioned in the posts above have bothered me. Additionally, multiple other people have tossed around Nacho as a possible scum, but nobody has pressed the issue, and the information we gain from a wagon or resistance to a wagon can be helpful.

[Fro99er]

ffs stop changing votes. vote creature.

I don't think I mind an Andy vote but I think i want to do this more

VOTE: Nacho

Lynch me over Nacho.

1) Tammy will work with Nacho. Nacho will work with Tammy.
2) SAD thinks I'm the Serial Killer.

I'm not sure why point 2 matters.

[Fro99er]

1) Tammy will work with Nacho. Nacho will work with Tammy.

Tammy has expressed her own concerns about Nacho not engaging with her this game.

[Fro99er]

ffs stop changing votes. vote creature.

WAAAAAAHHHHHH

[Fro99er]

I feel like I'm being talked off Nacho too easily

UNVOTE:

But that's three people telling me to not to

[Fro99er]

I don't think scum is getting lynched today I dislike both wagons but I won't nl

I dislike the Gerry wagon.

I'm unsure about the Creature wagon.

Why do you dislike the Creature wagon?

[Fro99er]

Why are you meta townreading Creature?

Everyone else is meta scumreading him.

[Fro99er]

I'll leave Nacho alone today because it's not happening.

But tomorrow I start there.

Unless he kills me.

[Fro99er]

FTR I'm also glad you're all working through it and that's not part of my Nacho read at all.

[Fro99er]

So I guess it's Creature or Gerry today, eh?

Consider my vote on creature if that's the case.

[Fro99er]

So I guess it's Creature or Gerry today, eh?

Consider my vote on creature if that's the case.

Or me.
But you seem to be ignoring that for some reason.

You have one vote on you, right?

[Fro99er]

So I guess it's Creature or Gerry today, eh?

Consider my vote on creature if that's the case.

Or me.
But you seem to be ignoring that for some reason.

Obviously the reason is because I'm scum

[Fro99er]

K i'ma go watch Yu-gi-oh
Any questions while I chill?

I asked why you town read Creature for meta while others scum read him for meta.

[Fro99er]

would you lynch him if he had more

Yes

[Fro99er]

even if you're SK you can help town, so idk why they'd wanna lynch you.

They?

Are you not town?

Was I wrong about you?

[Fro99er]

I prefer baked brownies for my baking

[Fro99er]

Although getting baked off lemon bars is tasty too

[Fro99er]

I am making brownies tonight.
Laced with a special ingredient.

Guess

I'm glad we're friends now

[Fro99er]

K i'ma go watch Yu-gi-oh
Any questions while I chill?

I asked why you town read Creature for meta while others scum read him for meta.

MARIA

[Fro99er]

even if you're SK you can help town, so idk why they'd wanna lynch you.

They?

Are you not town?

Was I wrong about you?

GERRY

[Fro99er]

Thanks. Missed that

[Fro99er]

Where did I reach.

I asked a question

[Fro99er]

See I'm not sure if English is your first language, but in English when you use a pronoun like "they" it refers to your most recent noun, which was "town."

I'm sorry for knowing English.

[Fro99er]

even if you're SK you can help

town

, so idk why

they

'd wanna lynch you.

[Fro99er]

So if I misunderstood you an understand why. But it's not a reach.

[Fro99er]

And I'm an editor for a website.

So i'm a bit sensitive to it

[Fro99er]

But you can see why I'd question that and how it's not a reach.

[Fro99er]

I see what you mean, but I disagree as to interpretation. It's a reach.

It's really not a reach.

When someone refers to town as they (the way i read it) it catches my attention

[Fro99er]

And I wasn't reaching.

I was questioning

[Fro99er]

It's a bullshit argument anyway.

It's not a reach because all i did was ask a question.

And it's perfectly understandable why it caught my attention

[Fro99er]

Like I said.

It usually refers to the most recent noun, not something in a prior post.

[Fro99er]

Let's just drop it

You think it's a reach, I had every right to ask a question. We're not gonna see eye to eye

[Fro99er]

"They" is often used in the conceptual third

I understand that.

But you can see why I read it the way i did.

[Fro99er]

Anyway.

Nacho isn't happening today. Tomorrow though.

VOTE: Creature

I thought about it more and I don't want to wait until deadline. If creature has some claim that causes us to scramble, I want there to be time to sort shit out.

[Fro99er]

I don't even know what dreal's reads are at this point.

Dreal. What are your reads?

[Fro99er]

you waffle a lot, fro99er

Fun fact

I have a stuffed frog named waffles

[Fro99er]

you waffle a lot, fro99er

Fun fact

I have a stuffed frog named waffles

fun fact, i don't like waffles.

pancakes are the true breakfast food

Two days a year my cat is named pancakes

[Fro99er]

stuffed with Frog Legs...

Shoot: Toogeloo

[Fro99er]

Fire vote a viable wagon

Nacho sadly isn't happening today

[Fro99er]

Vote: Creature

I feel so left out

Anyway.

Nacho isn't happening today. Tomorrow though.

VOTE: Creature

I thought about it more and I don't want to wait until deadline. If creature has some claim that causes us to scramble, I want there to be time to sort shit out.

[Fro99er]

I want to be the crotch vote

[Fro99er]

Is it weird that the dog avatar is where the pussy would be?

Woof

[Fro99er]

Yo Creature claim

[Fro99er]

UNVOTE:

[Fro99er]

My vote is on Creature just needs to claim

[Fro99er]

Why are we assuming he's mafia goon?

[Fro99er]

You are at L-1 effective (my vote is considered on you but I unvoted to avoid a hammer while we wait for your claim)

[Fro99er]

How many time we have left?

JFC look at post 2877 ON THIS VERY PAGE

[Fro99er]

Does creature always play this poorly as town?

Creature, you don't scum read anyone except Pine? The rest are just PoE?

[Fro99er]

I am

waffling

pancaking hard on him.

[Fro99er]

i wouldn't say townhunting is an inherently poor way to play

I didn't say townhunting was a poor way to play. I just think he's been lackluster in identifying why people are town, and I'm wondering if that's normal for him from his past town games.

[Fro99er]

that's not what you said at all but ok

I never said townhunting was a poor way to play but ok

[Fro99er]

My head is telling me Creature is scum.

My gut is not and I don't know why.

[Fro99er]

I was brought to L-3/L-2/L-1 pretty quickly though.

I hate this post.

[Fro99er]

I'm going to step away and think about this.

pedit: but he got to L-1 at one point which is why he claimed.

[Fro99er]

I'm going to step away and think about this.

(Which means i'll probably be back in 10 minutes)

[Fro99er]

I never said townhunting was a poor way to play but ok

???

creature's reads are all based on how town they are

this is called townhunting

you said "does creature always play his poorly?"

what other conclusion can be drawn??????

I didn't criticize townhunting.

I criticized the WHY behind his town reads. They're all surface reads at best.

[Fro99er]

Those were separate questions.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Creature

[Fro99er]

Do you think he's been trapping?

3:16

[Fro99er]

Desp is town tho

[Fro99er]

The fake stuttering thing and leaning on the whole 'cute anime girl' motif looks extra contrived.

I'm pretty sure the stuttering thing is a modifier/role PM type thing.

[Fro99er]

Ok then.

[Fro99er]

WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH I WAS WRONG

[Fro99er]

I'm concerned Fro99er is scum and is sneaking by me.

Bout time you came out and said it. You've been alluding to it enough.

[Fro99er]

I'm concerned Fro99er is scum and is sneaking by me.

Bout time you came out and said it. You've been alluding to it enough.

Again, you have a certain air about you that reminds me of UT, but unlike UT I don't see you having any sort of PLAN behind the WAAAAAHHHH etc behavior.

WAHHHHHHHHHH

[Fro99er]

Why isn't desperado just lynched.

don't be bad

[Fro99er]

Why isn't desperado just lynched.

don't be bad

He is one of my stronger scumreads after nacho

He is one of my strongest townreads after taco

[Fro99er]

Wait why are we lynching s watcher claim day one.
That seems stupid.


VOTE: Desperado

I already said don't be dumb.

[Fro99er]

Yeah creature is scum

[Fro99er]

I can't be anything but who I am

I'm glad we're having fun this game tho.

[Fro99er]

Fire do you think there's a cop and a watcher both on town?

pedit: CAN YOU FEEL THE LYNCH TODAY?

[Fro99er]

can we go back to firebringer thinking a cop would target me???

lol

[Fro99er]

Miller =/= Cop existence

I never said that. I asked fire if he thinks there is one.

Because he implied it with that post of his.

[Fro99er]

Pine, Fire, Andy

put your votes back on creature.

[Fro99er]

Man you [Fro99er] switched that read on a dime

UNVOTE: Fro99er

I've been on a bad vote.

What changed your mind so quickly?

That's indicative of my town game

I've had time to stew over this, but I think this is more likely a town!Zach than a scum!Zach, so I'm not on board with the Zach wagon.

[Fro99er]

^^^I'm on board with lynching creature and waiting to see if Gerry really does become conftown to someone here.

[Fro99er]

Also some of your most recent posts are hardcore flailing.

Who says only scum flails?

good lord this is scummy

[Fro99er]

Yeah, frogger, maybe you should try PoE.

I did.

I PoE'd you to scum.

[Fro99er]

Nah, PoE like picking the playerlist, eliminating town and seeing who's left.

Thanks for explaining to me what PoE is. I never knew that.

[Fro99er]

So hows life guys?

Would be fantastic if you lynched Creature.

[Fro99er]

fucking hell FB.

[Fro99er]

You're not pushing some stupid desperado vanity wagon today.

[Fro99er]

but we'll both be clear to each other. pretty sure.

i may also have another ability )))))))))) maf u scared? l0l

are you eight?

[Fro99er]

I don't really want to lynch Gerry. I still like my Creature vote, even with the mason claim and Gerry's PR claim.

[Fro99er]

I'm torn on Gerry fullclaiming. On the one hand, it probably helps scum if he's town and fullclaims. On the other hand, he could be fakeclaiming, and at least we'll know what the deal is with when/how he gets confirmed town if it's not a fake claim.

[Fro99er]

I like this mcmenno guy

[Fro99er]

knows where my head is at

[Fro99er]

Creature, any thoughts on the claim? On what that means for Gerry?

[Fro99er]

So is your PoE list down to 4 now?

[Fro99er]

Fro99er, what do you suggest outside Zach and Pine?

You

[Fro99er]

Creature, can you paraphrase the wording around your 2-shot modifier? Don't quote your role PM, I don't want any modkills.

[Fro99er]

outside me.

Well I wanted nacho, but everybody said that's not happening today.

Andy and Sly would be my other choices.

[Fro99er]

Creature, can you paraphrase the wording around your 2-shot modifier? Don't quote your role PM, I don't want any modkills.

let me clarify...

you said you were "My Roomate" as your role. 2-shot watcher.

can you paraphrase what the flavor is around your 2-shot watcher modifier?

[Fro99er]

We can speed wagon andrius or sly

if creature won't happen, i'll do one of those. There's still 5 votes on creature I think.

[Fro99er]

but we'll both be clear to each other. pretty sure.

i may also have another ability )))))))))) maf u scared? l0l

are you eight?

no im 9

touche

[Fro99er]

This is why it sounds fake-claim.

Or even scum watcher.

[Fro99er]

lol @ scum wanting me dead.

VI's, go ahead and lynch me and you will not be getting any laundry done.

you're a conditional double voter...IOW basically a 2-day VT

I don't really understand the threat of not getting any laundry done. it's not like we'd be lynching a super powerful role.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: sly

[Fro99er]

you guysssssss

WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

[Fro99er]

lol @ scum wanting me dead.

VI's, go ahead and lynch me and you will not be getting any laundry done.

Unless someone's an ax. LMAO

does not jive with

Slysly's flavor is also negative (door hinders someone doing laundry).

Nothing in my PM says I hinder laundry getting done.

[Fro99er]

Especially when he then says we'll see it in his flip

[Fro99er]

slysly seriously just claimed that we can't win the game without him

that is scumthingfunny!

i don't write the PM's but i know what mine says. go ahead and lynch me and you can read it too.

you'll be looking for a rioter with a baseball bat.

[Fro99er]

I don't hinder the laundry getting done, removing me does.

alright, yeah I guess it does jive.

Hmmm

[Fro99er]

I have a hard time believing there's a role where if we just lynch it we lose.

[Fro99er]

Part 2, Toogs described where the power of my role lies perfectly. That makes him scummy, even though I accept the mason claim and not SRing him, for voting me.

The only power is if you're town and we get to day 3, then maybe we can have a voting block if the masons aren't dead.

That's not really all that powerful.

[Fro99er]

lolololol

[Fro99er]

It's Theme Park. It's always role madness.

Ok this may be a difference in terms.

When I hear ROLE MADNESS I think NO VANILLA TOWNIES.

I think BASTARD IS ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY.

Really don't think it's bastard

1. Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No)
   -No!!!

[Fro99er]

The problem with Slysly claiming he's the keys to the laundry room is also off because from the op flavor of the game:

What lies ahead of you is not even close to easier. Four flights of stairs and two doors, both of which you need to unlock with a physical key that you need to turn.

The keys and doors are for the dorm room not for the laundry room.

he never actually claimed he was keys to the laundry room.

just keys to two doors

[Fro99er]

of course the two doors are for the dorm and to where your roommate is.


Sly and Creature could be scumses.

[Fro99er]

Andy, do you agree it would be dumb to have a role where if you eliminate them you can't get the laundry done, as sly is implying?

[Fro99er]

of course the two doors are for the dorm and to where your roommate is.


Sly and Creature could be scumses.

Frogger just cc'd that he's the other set of keys!!

Get him.

What?

[Fro99er]

Andy, that's exactly my point.

It makes no sense that we can't get the laundry done if sly dies, as he's claiming.

[Fro99er]

Sly why don't you try advocating for someone else's lynch then

[Fro99er]

then vote him

[Fro99er]

FB get off that desperado vote

[Fro99er]

of course the two doors are for the dorm and to where your roommate is.


Sly and Creature could be scumses.

Desperado is the stairs though and that leads to dorm room too!

oooh

[Fro99er]

Stop focusing on peoples flavor and the mechs of thwere roles if you scumread the person hard enough you should vote then regardless of what they claim unless it's something that can be cleared otherwise give it a day then lynch it if proven false

Can we flash wagon Pine or Desp I am begging you (Pine more though.)

VOTE: Pine

Don't be bad.

Gerry, Creature, or Sly are the options

Or a last minute flashwagon on Andy since he's offering

[Fro99er]

[Fro99er]

I think that sounds about right

[Fro99er]

I won't do Gerry or desp.

I will do Creature or Sly.

That's where i stand today.

[Fro99er]

Vigging/stabbing me would be a terrible idea

[Fro99er]

Shooting me would be a better idea.

[Fro99er]

Well I guess that's vigging. I mean scum shooting me

[Fro99er]

You'll regret it if you do.

[Fro99er]

I won't miss you either

[Fro99er]

Lack of drive?

Like when I tried to drive a Nacho wagon and everyon shushed me?

When I drove the fire wagon?

When i drove the SAD wagon?

I'm trying to get everyone to coalesce on Creature but you all have your heads shoved...well...you get it.

[Fro99er]

Lynch Creature and if he flips town flashlynch me tomorrow.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Creature

[Fro99er]

I'm dead serious.

Lynch Creature and if he flips town flashlynch me tomorrow.

[Fro99er]

Andy you even said you'd compromise on Creature.

SAD you will too.

[Fro99er]

Lynch Creature and if he flips town flashlynch me tomorrow.

I am submitting a strongman kill on you tonight.
Creature's flip cannot save you.

Whatever

[Fro99er]

And I'm here trying to get a fucking lynch. I have asked Maria and FB countless times to stop pushing vanity wagons and to get on Creature or Sly.

[Fro99er]

Stop focusing on peoples flavor and the mechs of thwere roles if you scumread the person hard enough you should vote then regardless of what they claim unless it's something that can be cleared otherwise give it a day then lynch it if proven false

Can we flash wagon Pine or Desp I am begging you (Pine more though.)

VOTE: Pine

Don't be bad.

Gerry, Creature, or Sly are the options

Or a last minute flashwagon on Andy since he's offering

FB get off that desperado vote

You're not pushing some stupid desperado vanity wagon today.

fucking hell FB.

So hows life guys?

Would be fantastic if you lynched Creature.

Pine, Fire, Andy

put your votes back on creature.

Why isn't desperado just lynched.

don't be bad

[Fro99er]

I'm trying to get people to coalesce on either Sly or Creature. That's basically all i've been doing since the Creature claim the last 24-48 hours or however long ago it was.

I pushed on Sly about his claim, and I pointed out several scummy posts of Creatures.

Not my fault if you can't read.

[Fro99er]

Fire vote a viable wagon

Nacho sadly isn't happening today

Missed this one too

[Fro99er]

Andy you even said you'd compromise on Creature.

SAD you will too.

I've got time before deadline.

Says the guy who keeps pointing how soon the deadline is

[Fro99er]

sly today creature tomorrow

VOTE: sly

[Fro99er]

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

[Fro99er]

(just to borrow a method from Andy's playbook)

[Fro99er]

Desp would you deadline no lynch or deadline lynch sly or deadline lynch creature?

Gerry isn't happening.

[Fro99er]

:/

[Fro99er]

I guess you're right. I won't though.

pedit: @desp

[Fro99er]

Quick unofficial poll: who would support a Nacho flashwagon? If we can't lynch Creature, and Sly is Town, let's do this. There's been a lot of talk about Nacho but no action.

I'll be here pretty much all the way to deadline.

PEdit: I am not interested in Gerry. It's a bad wagon, and a CW to Creature.

As much as I'd love to ring up nacho, that wagon sailed for today and I don't think creating a flashwagon on someone who hsan't claimed yet is a good idea. If they claim and it's something where we cant lynch them, then we're scrambling and could no lynch.

Just because you and I are basically here until deadline doesn't mean everyone else is.

[Fro99er]

Fair point. Consider it tabled.

I reject the Sly wagon and do not see a good reason for the Gerry wagon.

I wish there was enough support for Creature. I feel better about creature than sly

[Fro99er]

Man this is like dems vs GOP, cant find a compromise in the middle with Creature.

[Fro99er]

SlySly (7): drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Toogeloo, Nosferatu, MariaR, Fro99er
Creature (3): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine
gerryoat (3): Nachomamma8, Andrius, Desperado
Desperado (1): Firebringer
Pine (1):
Zachstralkita (1): Creature

Not Voting (2): Tammy, SlySly

VOTE: creature

Firebringer needs to stop being useless as well. We're 8 hours from deadline.

[Fro99er]

sorry, 7 hours.

[Fro99er]

Pine, SAD, we can do this. Come on

[Fro99er]

Toog, Fire. You guys have voted creature too.

[Fro99er]

Maria

[Fro99er]

Anyone still thinks I could be scum watcher?

Yes

[Fro99er]

The beetlejuicing is strong with creature.

SAD if you were to leash creature's shots, what would you choose he do tonight?

[Fro99er]

If it was your first time, I'd agree with that statement creature. But it's not.

[Fro99er]

I need to crumb harder.

[Fro99er]

I was brought to L-3/L-2/L-1 pretty quickly though.

Miller =/= Cop existence

Also some of your most recent posts are hardcore flailing.

Who says only scum flails?

These were the three posts I hated the most, btw

[Fro99er]

I think you're picking more on NAI posts.

I don't

[Fro99er]

If andy really is a vig and vigges me tonight, I'm going to be so pissed off. So. Pissed. Off.

[Fro99er]

Actually,

There's a reason I've been so frustrated.

I am cop and I have one modifier I can't say yet (I crumbed that earlier). I am "My Eyes"

Creature should watch me and fire should protect me. If I get roleblocked or killed, he can say who, other than fire, visited me. Otherwise we either get a clear or a guilty on someone I target.

It also gives me a hard time believing creature's claim because a watcher and a cop is pretty strong. But if we can leash creature's shot and my target, I'm fine with that.

It's also why I haven't suspected desperado once at all this game. I'm assuming my role was put in there because he's a miller.

If creature gets roleblocked then I still won't get killed if fire really is protective unless there's a strongman.

Andy, if vig, can vig outside of the masons, fire, myself, creature, desp, and whoever we have me choose as target, and maybe hit another scum.

[Fro99er]

wasn't going to claim, but if andy is going to vig me, I felt I had to, and this gives us a very strong chance of hitting at least one scum tonight

[Fro99er]

UNVOTE:

who should I target.

Creature has to target me.

[Fro99er]

I just cannot talk about one part of mine, period. You're going to have to believe me on this or bad things will happen to this towel.

this is where I crumbed it

[Fro99er]

So many PR claims...

it's role madness.

and I believe you're scum.

But we're going to leash you tonight. If you dont' watch me, you're confscum.

[Fro99er]

You're also assuming that both [Creature, Fire] are town.
Your plan requires both of them to function.

my plan does not assume creature is town.

just fire

[Fro99er]

if creature doesn't watch me and I get killed or roleblocked, and he doesn't say who, he's scum.

In role madness I'm pretty sure we have a town protective somewhere. If not then creature will still be watching me because we have him leashed.

[Fro99er]

alternatively we can just lynch creature

[Fro99er]

Couldn't he just fake the result if he were scum


Like give a different name

You wouldn't be able to tell really

he could.

then we lynch him the next day

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then pick something better.

like lynching creature.

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I mean, my role is basically a CC to creature's at worst.

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The beetlejuicing is strong with creature.

SAD if you were to leash creature's shots, what would you choose he do tonight?

this post so scummy

So you think I'm scum cop put in specifically to fake clear your role...ok

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You're also assuming that both [Creature, Fire] are town.
Your plan requires both of them to function.

my plan does not assume creature is town.

just fire

ya that's why it's shit

right, but if creature doesn't follow the plan then he's dead.

if he's scum, and scum roleblock or kill me and he doesn't say who visited me, then we know he's scum.

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mason's + cop/watcher + two more confirmed town

absofuckinglutelynot

I don't think two more confirmed town. Just one more. Gerry never said the person who confirms him is confirmed themselves.

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I don't think two more confirmed town. Just one more. Gerry never said the person who confirms him is confirmed themselves.

uh

what?

why would gerry confirm himself as town...to scum???

Well if it's something like a delayed friendly neighbor (it's not, but something like it), then the person he is confirmed to would have no reason to say Gerry is scum. Because if they do and Gerry gets lynched and flips town, then that person gets flipped the next day.

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But for real though the 2x watcher is so fucking fake it hurts.

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if y'all don't want to go with the plan, then we're lynching creature.

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WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Is this game even balanced how are scum going up vs watcher masons vig protective role my op role gerry's fruit vendor.

+ a now believable miller claim.

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1681*

thanks, missed that.

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Is this game even balanced how are scum going up vs watcher masons vig protective role my op role gerry's fruit vendor.

+ a now believable miller claim.

Tbf it could just have been a fake-claim given to him.

true

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Also Firebringer might be jailkeeper so not a good idea to rely on him protecting frogger tonight...

welp. I'm fucking dumb.

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yeah andy might be scum

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So the question is, do we lynch creature, or leash him.

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Just going to ignore andy from here out. It's clear he has some kind of problem with me, and I'm not sure what I ever did to him to get him to act this way to me.

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hi

hi

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I saw a SlySly wagon. That is dumb beyond dumb. Life would make a hell of a lot more sense if we just lynched Gerry; he's claimed a role that can't exist. And, if some weird backwards world exists where he's a delayed seeking mason (????), oh look, it's been counterclaimed.

Bus Creature please.

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Just going to ignore andy from here out. It's clear he has some kind of problem with me, and I'm not sure what I ever did to him to get him to act this way to me.

Sorry, I'm naturally abrasive with my scumreads.

Are you seriously still scumreading me?

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no one left will actually have the stones or competence to push you.

Um, I will.