DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ
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I might try a different catch up style this game... I've always been bad at finding scum just by reading posts and looking for what sticks out, so I might try a different approach and see if it works better for me.
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And, as evidenced by the signup thread, I voted no to Total War partially because I don't want to be nuked N1 (very likely regardless of my alignment) and because I think that that adds too much chaos to this game at the beginning.
I have other responsibilities to do including homework and other modding commitments, and this game generally comes as last in my priority list.-
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Way to jump to conclusions. I'm gonna catch up; just been busy elsewhere. In fact, I'm starting right now.In post 649, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Are you gonna be performing voodoo to figure out scum or???In post 644, Ircher wrote:I've always been bad at finding scum just by reading posts and looking for what sticks out, so I might try a different approach and see if it works better for me.
I'm honestly up for policy lynching you off those three posts alone b/c it seems like you're gonna be utterly useless this game.
Pedit: 48 hour deadlines are pretty typical here. Its also pretty typical to start the game despite not everyone confirming. That said, I can understand what you are saying, but finding a replacement shouldn't be hard. Worst case scenario is just extend Defcon 4 deadline.-
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Highly doubt thats balanced.In post 95, Cephrir wrote:
The practical answer is no one wants to.In post 91, Cheetory6 wrote:Why not? We could hash out deadlines and be organized about it.
I'm probably barking up the wrong tree with this game and playerlist but I mean, theoretically this setup could be easy as fuck to basically give town so many more lynches than they normally get.
Other than that, well, is vanilla 18:5:1 nightless balanced? it might be-
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Nope; just not commenting on it in my catchup post, so......In post 661, Cephrir wrote:Yes, it is not. It's also very irrelevant as it turns out. Is that really the most important post you've seen so far-
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Whats wrong with them?In post 800, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:If you post these 3 posts in succession:
In post 644, Ircher wrote:I might try a different catch up style this game... I've always been bad at finding scum just by reading posts and looking for what sticks out, so I might try a different approach and see if it works better for me.
That said, summaries are always appreciated.In post 645, Ircher wrote:And, as evidenced by the signup thread, I voted no to Total War partially because I don't want to be nuked N1 (very likely regardless of my alignment) and because I think that that adds too much chaos to this game at the beginning.
I have other responsibilities to do including homework and other modding commitments, and this game generally comes as last in my priority list.
You need some Jesus or something.In post 647, Ircher wrote:@Mod - Since Toogeloo's vote wouldn't change anything anyway, can we go ahead and move on into Defcon 4?
1) Whats wrong with trying something different. Especially if what you usually do doesn't work very well? Not all of us are great at mafia; not all of us are even good at mafia.
2) It's an opinion. What's wrong with an opinion. Also, what's wrong with having other IRL stuff and commitments?
3) Ok, thats perhaps is a bit questionable, but it's more an attempt to keep the game moving versus trying to be rude. Still not sure what the big deal.
Pedit: Be thankful that I won't nuke anyone.
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I've no clue what you're talking about right now.
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Hey, reading the thread took like 1h 30m yesterday FOR 10 PAGES! So, you can su about "fading back into oblivion".In post 788, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Do you see the difference.In post 785, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Ircher. Duh. I pointed it out when you did it.In post 780, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Please explain which low hanging fruit I have gone after.
I have Ircher as null and wanted to get a better read on him, so in the hope that he stops being useless, I tried to push on him to do something in fear that all he was going to do was those 3 posts then fade back into oblivion.
You on the other hand specially scumread a low hanging fruit and started building a case on him.
Pedit: Whelp, so much for a flawless game.....-
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It was self-interest for the nukes.In post 857, Nukebringer wrote:It's more the fact that you made those three posts in succession. Like you're just being defensive right off the bat, and then it doesn't help that you're carrying this attitude of OH AREN'T YOU GRATEFUL FOR ME STOPPING THE NUKES even though you make it p clear that you did that out of self-interest.
Concerning my "attitude", you gotta to remember its Thanksgiving in the US; hence my commentary although I see what you mean.-
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Also, not really "defensive" so much as explaining some things off the bat.In post 863, Ircher wrote:
It was self-interest for the nukes.In post 857, Nukebringer wrote:It's more the fact that you made those three posts in succession. Like you're just being defensive right off the bat, and then it doesn't help that you're carrying this attitude of OH AREN'T YOU GRATEFUL FOR ME STOPPING THE NUKES even though you make it p clear that you did that out of self-interest.
Concerning my "attitude", you gotta to remember its Thanksgiving in the US; hence my commentary although I see what you mean.-
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What's wrong with that stuff?In post 869, Accountant wrote:so basically ircher needs to eat rope because he almost certainly has bunker or failsafe or defense missiles with teh way he's been acting-
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1) I generally skip summaries. This time, I've added a summary of a lot of posts in the game. Different strategy; again, I think you are overreading.In post 877, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
1. Because you say you want to try something different but you don't say what it is (and you claim you're bad at finding scum by reading posts). So I didn't know if you'll be singing kumbaya, collecting the exodia pieces to call forth the forbidden one, or gathering the dragon balls to summon shenron as your new innovative method to solving mafia.In post 852, Ircher wrote:Whats wrong with them?
1) Whats wrong with trying something different. Especially if what you usually do doesn't work very well? Not all of us are great at mafia; not all of us are even good at mafia.
2) It's an opinion. What's wrong with an opinion. Also, what's wrong with having other IRL stuff and commitments?
3) Ok, thats perhaps is a bit questionable, but it's more an attempt to keep the game moving versus trying to be rude. Still not sure what the big deal.
2. Your other responsibilities part combined with claiming this game comes as last in your priority list cemented you as possibly being useless this entire game.
3. Because it's anti-town and unfair as I already pointed out. Also for a person who had just come into the thread and has yet to be catch up, I'm not sure why you were particularly interested in "keeping the game moving".
2) I'm active in about 85% of games I play. I was just saying that this thread would be last in my priority list. That doesn't mean I'm useless; there are SEVERAL players who do much less than I generally do. (Not sure about this playerlist though.)
3) It's neither anti-town nor unfair as I already explained. Explain how it was anti-town. And I'm interested in keeping games moving cuz if they stall, they become boring and then I stop trying. I play and mod games for the suspense of reading your responses; dead games are zero fun because there is zero new content.-
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My read didn't really change for you, but you were trolling a good bit at the beginning of the game. It kinda stopped as the game has progressed, but that was the last major reason for reading you.In post 1027, SpyreX wrote:I don't think anyone ever tried when there were no nukes calm down dag
And ircher i swear to everything holy I'm gonna need you to get crayons out and explain trolling or a lolbomb is going right in your facemeat-
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It's a copy-paste template from when I was starting the site. Besides, it's merely an issue of style as I'm not sing it to suggest anything significant given m reasoning (role pm); it does help reinforce that secton of my reads: it's from MY perspective not other people's perspective or the bystander's perspective, so in essence, the marking may actually be useful to some extent.In post 1021, RedCoyote wrote:Don't put yourself as confirmed town, Ircher. That's so silly and unnecessary. I guess it's a pet peeve. No one expects you to analyze yourself.
You can ignore that though, I have no issue with that, but I refuse to be assimilated into your style of doing things.-
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Seriously Reck? SERIOUSLY?
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1) ?In post 1037, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
No.In post 1019, Ircher wrote:Untrod Tripod (-10%) - Has this slot even done anything constructive yet?
This read is really horrible. Why do you think the SK would be acting like that?In post 1019, Ircher wrote:Mastina (-25%) - Being utterly useless (KTS useless or worse) and needs rope immediately. Probably not mafia, but I could see this as a Terrorist. Day 1 PL please.
In what way.In post 1019, Ircher wrote:Magna (+50%) - Post #225 was a very strong post
So he's trolling and you don't like his posts yet he's sitting at "+40%", 1% under someone whose observations you're liking?In post 1019, Ircher wrote:SpyreX (+40%) - I haven't really liked his posts, but I think that's more a personal bias. Probably biased because SpyreX is trolling a good bit.
2) Wine In Front of Me
3) Read the flipping spoilers. The better idea is for you to point out what's wrong with it and then I can either explain why I still think its strong or amend my read. Simply contesting a read of a post is useless.
4) Personal bias against SoyreX's playstyle & the fact that I factor in quantity AS WELL AS quality into my reads.-
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Simple solution: Don't use Tigers theme. Shouldn't be a problem on Mafblack and it cannot be that bad on maf!Sepia cuz red works there and yellow is probably readable & orange isn't a stupid color.In post 1038, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Also stop thinking you're a special snowflake and posting in colors because half of them are unreadable and are headache inducing.
If you're using Sepia, that's on you; I personally like the color-coding and the colors are not as you say "unreadable". They show up fairly well; the worst one is prob. the yellow.-
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It's organized in that manner with the small exception that the Null-Scum and Null-Town are collapsed into a single Null category and the Neutral-Town and Neutral-Scum into a single Neutral category. I coukd do that, but I like the colors. In terms of reading Null/Neutral reads, it's important to pay attention to signs which I make explicit.In post 1044, Cheetory6 wrote:Is probably better to use a 1 colour to 1 colour gradient and maybe organize them from most scummy to most townie.
But that's just me/my preferences.
@RC, any updated thoughts in terms of like.. people's play?
Is this at me or someone else?In post 1045, Accountant wrote:Stop whining about how other people format their posts unless they make it literally deliberately unreadable
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Ok, that is a bit hard to read.In post 1049, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In post 1045, Accountant wrote:Stop whining about how other people format their posts unless they make it literally deliberately unreadable
Is this readable?
Is this readable?
Is this readable?
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Ok, I looked back at your ISO.In post 1046, SpyreX wrote:I'm still stuck on trolling
Like boy you aint seen a moose much less a troll if you think I'm a troll dag
I concede -- Not trolling (more likely carefree-ness which is ok just not my style; I'm generally serious about stuff)-
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I got lazy with my explanations, and some of it can be best describe as "gut". Regarding your vote --> The way you did it seemed super care-free amongst other things; really pinged me.In post 1070, xRECKONERx wrote:
why do you not like me voting noIn post 1019, Ircher wrote:xRECKONERx (-75%) - I really didn't like the way he voted No to Total War.... Some of his posts like #321 really look like scum posts, but the slot's posts are starting to look better.
why do my posts look like scum posts
Did you even READ the spoiler text I ADDED IN?In post 1071, xRECKONERx wrote:
what does this meanIn post 1039, Ircher wrote:Seriously Reck? SERIOUSLY?
"Extremely obnoxious, possibly seizure-inducing animated GIF"
Reevaluate later means I do it when I finish catching up or your posts and do ISOs, you give me reason to change my opinion, or someone else's posts give me a reason to change my opinion.In post 1072, xRECKONERx wrote:ircher how is it i have been listed as "reevaluate this slot" for several consecutive posts now
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Are you sure?
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RVS, you're obnoxipus, and your idiotic post that I already addressed elsewhereIn post 1464, McMenno wrote:why did you piggyback off of cephrir's vote instead of voting redcoyote or something_smart, which I'm sure could have a wagon built on them?
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Did you even read my posts?In post 1463, Errantparabola wrote:
i have literally never seen someone err in the other direction so that was interestingIn post 1356, Accountant wrote:for the record I believe EP's pronoun is they
~i dont like this~In post 1379, Nahdia wrote:this LLD is reading Town atm.
Pushing on someone because they didn't know what an abbreviation meant is stupid but also feels towny to me just cause I don't see anyone with any amount of self-respect pulling something like that as scum.
but! there's this little seed of thought that you've inceptioned into my mind that you are town, we'll see where we take that
Small bad feelings towards accountant. Maybe ISO worthy because I can't pinpoint it.
Cephrir too.
both of the mcmenno votes leave me unhappy. not sayying that mcmenno is town. Cephrir's vote is founded on insignificant potshots (which is at least more excusable than ircher's vote which is terrible and unjustifiable)
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My apologies.In post 1465, mastina wrote:What the hell.
I very specifically put in literally EVERY troop, in an order of most to least.
Given how many troops there were, I shoulda gotten at least ONE of them, especially since I figured...well.
Yaknow.
You'd be a bunch of nuke-happy gun-toting 'MURICANS.
Apparently not!
No Espionage. No Battleship. No Eavesdrop. No Aircraft Carrier. No Air Base. No Radar. No Dead Hand (my name for the failsafe). No Submarine. No Covert Ops Team. No Strategic Missile Defense. No Fighter. No Fallout Shelter. No Counterintelligence.
Literally EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Of them got picked. By someone in the game.
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Errant asked.In post 1471, McMenno wrote:I am pretty sure I did not ask your reasons
and why are you still in an rvs mindset
And RVS cuz we didnt have it at the beginning of the game.-
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I only submitted 5:In post 1476, mastina wrote:On the bright side:
Since we know 13 players didn't choose the nukes, we can probably safely assume most if not all of the scum were vying for troops.
On the negative side:
Since we know the scum most likely were vying for troops, that means we could potentially have six scum having stolen the assets the town was to have.
So keep that in mind.
1. Strategic Missile Defense
2. Fallout Shelter
3. Covert Ops Team
4. Counterintelligence
5. Missile Silo-
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What's the viting threshold?
(Just checking)
I'll edit it in. Was just thinking of what I forgot. Thought it was a V/LA. - AndyLast edited by Andrius on Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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Hrm... Perhaps your right.In post 1486, Spiffeh wrote:I really don't think it's a good idea to reveal draft selections
I'm expect to get lynched anyway though so prob. doesn't matter.-
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Killjoy.In post 1491, Cephrir wrote:
Rvs exists for a reason and it's one that clearly doesn't apply to this gameIn post 1483, Ircher wrote:
Errant asked.In post 1471, McMenno wrote:I am pretty sure I did not ask your reasons
and why are you still in an rvs mindset
And RVS cuz we didnt have it at the beginning of the game.-
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Read my earlier comment.In post 1518, Accountant wrote:
If it's his first game? Maybe. But it's not.In post 1511, GuyInFreezer wrote:conspiracy paranoia is mostly newbtown thing.-
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Where?In post 1519, GuyInFreezer wrote:He certainly posts like newb.-
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Actually, I think Guy might be right. People sure like to jump on the weakest links a lot.
Smart wagon perhaps? I'm up for Red too. We could also get rid of McMenno cuz he's a nuisance.
VOTE: Smart
Pedit: We could nuke Vax, we could nuke me (even though it will fail), yes, but I dont think Vax is good for lynching.
Pedit2: Stop ninjaing-
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...I'm open to other choices too. Not Vax; I was considering it, but there is that less-skilled-at-mafia-than-most-players tone in the ISO.
Pedit: Links to the meta please? Anyway, I've only read about a half this thread plus some fragments.-
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15207
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- Pronoun: He / Him / His
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And that means?In post 1550, Accountant wrote:I'm treating GIF's "he's paranoid newbtown" argument as exactly equivalent to "my gut says he's town"
Pedit: I asked like 3 times already to no avail.
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