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Math, there's a difference in modifying a role and changing a roles mechanics.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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though a cop kills instead of investigates would have to be told.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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like no way Math's tunneling would cost us a lynch.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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There's also a bit of a difference between a50 fakeclaiming PGO and Kraska claiming.In post 4079, RachMarie wrote:Also as far as fake claiming PGO, IIRC in Mastin's game A50 fake claimed PGO and turned out to be town and helped us win the game in the end, though some of his early reads were really kinda funky.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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You could say this about 99% of all the wagons here [on this site]. Its vague and all fitting.In post 3879, The Ascended Masters wrote:In post 3845, Nero Cain wrote:"no one can explain why NOS is town thus its a good wagon"
-Nacho 2016It's a point towards it being a good wagon, yes.No one explicitly townreading means that Nos hasn't done anything that townies are willing to stand behind and go "yes, that looks town". They haven't been just flat not been here (which would actually be null), they keep posting in this game enough to not be prodded in a 48-hour window and what they've decided to do with their time is ask useless questions and drift. I'm sure your implicit rebuttal was something along the lines of "that means scum aren't calling their buddy town and so mislynch!" but scum don't stand by their useless lurkshit buddies as often as you think they do because it's a bad move to stick your neck out for someone who is going to die eventually.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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ok, if you want to be my bestie quote your role pm and get yourself modkilled.In post 4241, Killthestory wrote:MAGENTA WOLF JUST WANTS TO BE FRIENDS WITH EVERYONEOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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can we get a VC?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Good, i think the NoS wagon is shit to. I still think TAM is scum but I'd be willing to do both RMs (maybe Rach the most) and Exp.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I can't wait to censor the shit out of this NOS wagon.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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but that's all scum.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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point being, don't tell scum how to play scum when your scum game is lurk lurk and lurk some more.
Nos just seems like a shot in the dark to me so I don't have real high hopes its a scum flip but other scum might have some inside information...idk. Like if it flips town everyone should just like start ignoring all those players since its seems like the NOS wagon composition is p similar to the Masters wagon.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I am a JOAT with several powers but no killing role. I do have an invention that I can give and anyone, regardless of alignment, will get it as long as the kill KTS.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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you are an alt right?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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vax, are you a alt.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I asked b/c its clear that the use of a jester role is considered bastard and this was not labeled as bastardIn post 4382, Vaxkiller wrote:
Vax is VaxIn post 4378, Nero Cain wrote:vax, are you a alt.
I'm no ones alt or ult.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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What do I get when he dies?In post 4381, Vaxkiller wrote:Considering you get something when he dies you are likely on the same team,Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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no, I give them hence the term "I can give"Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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other than a meta town read on his slot (KTS) I don't see anything townie from him. His Rach and EXP votes are ok but neither are getting lynched today so they are fairly useless.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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it means I'm putting a bounty on KTSIn post 4392, Vaxkiller wrote:What , " will get as long as the kill kts mean"?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Why are they weak players instead of scum wanting to take advantage of my offer?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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There seems to be much more resistance to a KTS lynch than a TAM lynch. If Nos flips town maybe all the idiots will stop listening to you and start sheeping me.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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no you really aren't. I mean I've played with you a grand total of once so its not like I know your play very well. You are mainly just trolling and posting useless shit. Is this a slayers type gambit playstlye? maybe. I'm just not going to auto town read you based off meta.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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given the players yes.In post 4422, The Ascended Masters wrote:
Somehow I don't think this is going to happen.In post 4418, Nero Cain wrote:There seems to be much more resistance to a KTS lynch than a TAM lynch. If Nos flips townmaybe all the idiotswill stop listening to you and start sheeping me.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I want him dead.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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you do know that Nos is a TAM couterwagon right? How does that apply to Nos but not Tam?In post 4504, Radical Rat wrote:and if folks are counter wagoning, we must be onto something,Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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ligging vurkers is goood pLae.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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we can do Tam tomorrow though I'm sure they'll be a Rach wagon which is plenty ok as well. I can deal with TAM.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I think the key to understanding Math is that everything said is ass backwards.
So in this case ABR is town and TAM is scum.In post 4600, MathBlade wrote:Agreed. ABR is scum. TAM is town.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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though I am also aware that only NOS will be getting lynched today so ok...it is what it is. I've made my stance clear and if NoS is a scum flip then I'm prepared to lie in the nest I've made BUT if its a town flip can we actully listen to town and/or someone that knows how to play? I recommend me.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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more than youIn post 4649, Klingoncelt wrote:You have Nero as Town, what has he done?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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you are a sad sport keeping ya'lls scum PT private.In post 4814, pisskop wrote:You can keep the maf pts private. i dont mindOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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eh. The game was so big and there were so much bad but I'm willing to agree that you had me fairly fooled. My reads were ok.
I mean with kraska not claiming PGO d1-its bad town form I agree but I also didn't think it was impossible that Vifam was killed to frame her. I mean I doubt I would have let her coast to end game but I just didn't think we had to lynch her that day. What I should have been more aware of was how shitty that kraska townreading Skrub for confirming to be an alt.
p disappointed that Soon/Shiro was so lurky.
Rach and DS basically scum claimed on d2.
Had a solid scum read on DGB/Vax.
ABR was lurky early on but I guess he kinda fooled me later on when pushing TAM.
Exp was obvscum but Rach says I always scum read him (which I haven't since we've played more than twice)
The Maker wagon was a joke. None of those 17 players deserved to be town.
Cerberus admitting that he was playing differently could explain why I thought he was scummy.
Housetown is like giving scum an extra helper but ok, I misread him. If Drixx doesn't have time to play he shoulda replaced out.
NOS being lurky and useless seemed pretty null to me. I'll admit that I misread that.
On d1 I kinda suspected Panzer at the scummist in the hood since I felt his don't really doing anything and pushing for policy lynches was p scum motivated. I'm disappointed that I didn't follow through.
IDK WTF that KTS play.
Kinda hated SpyreX all over Nacho's nuts. Thought there was some scum motivation in that.
After the Skrub wagon dissipated he was kinda lurky and seemed content to coast. Shoulda seen the scum motivation in that.
Can anyone blame me for scumreading Cakez?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Was there a 2 shot PGO in Mastins game? I remember sitting there and thinking that it made sense that it was in the game.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I also wanted to point out that I had the most accurate post in the entire game
In post 15, Nero Cain wrote:There is a 100% chance that this is a shit festOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I mean given that 8 of them were scum but the 9 "town" players were bad.In post 4848, Nero Cain wrote:The Maker wagon was a joke. None of those 17 players deserved to be town.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Drixx you can askANYONEhere that I'm super active and the only time I'm "inactive" is when something is going on or I'm sick.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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yeah, I think town may have ended up pulling this off.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I think being hesitant to vote a wagon is p scummy. Doesn't really matter the alignment.In post 4889, DiamondSentinel wrote:@Nero - Question. How did I "scum claim" D2?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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i guessOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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