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In my last finished game with Gamma, I had a strong townread on him. I'm not liking his posts in this game.
I don't have much to add to what has already been brought up about him, his early play looks like he was feigning scumhunting and his reactions to the wagon on him are bad. I also feel good about some of the players pushing the wagon.House wrote:Enlighten us, what do you like about it?
"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Maxous might not have a high post count, but he certainly hasn't been inactive.
Explain your TR on Gamma."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Last post(s) before V/LA, so here's where my reads stand:
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Gamma Emerald - As I've said before, I had a strong townread on Gamma in a previous game, whereas I really don't like him in this game. I don't like his defensiveness and his scumhunting doesn't look genuine to me.
Giga - A lot has been said about Giga, and I don't have the time to put too much time & effort into this post, so I'll just say that there's a lot Giga has done that I read as scummy (Magna's catch-up posts especially reminded me of a lot of smaller details that I had forgotten), but with him replacing out and my bad feeling about Gamma, he's not my #1 choice at the moment.
Pepto - Leaning scum, his entrance was bad and he doesn't seem to care about game solving.
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McMenno - I can't read him at all.
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zakk - Went from a solid SR to a TR, I don't see any scum motivation for his play, whereas his stated town motivation for his early play seems clear and makes a ton of sense.
SlySly - More "not scum" than any pro-town play, I don't see SlySly flipping scum.
I'm also not scumreading Accountant, and I remember townreading him, but my notetaking has been bad lately so I forgot why. Definitely not SRing him, though.
Others are either null or leaning in one direction, but not to a major extent."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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I'm probably not gonna read 70 pages, and the last thing this game needs is another replace out, so I will sheep a top townread for a bit. There's 100 pages and town's too split, gotta get something going.
VOTE: McMenno
I'm sheeping Maxous for the record."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Andrius can join my townread list, the tone of his recent posting reads as town to me, as does wanting to catch people up, collecting information into a more easily consumable form and pleading people to move the gamestate forward. I also agree with Andrius that the original deadline applying is a real possibility, and I think it would be pro-town to try to end the day before it.
You know what's opportunistic? A wagon on a player returning from a week-long V/LA. It's a 100+ page game, if you've been actively scumhunting you should have a better top scumread than the lurker who's been a complete non-factor.In post 2570, Gamma Emerald wrote:Let's lynch Leon. That awkward vote choice was hella opportunistic.
VOTE: LeonShade
How did my mini-wagon come to consist of my top three pre-V/LA scumreads? Did I manage to call scum that early? Probably not, but I'm still fine with my scumreads on everyone on my wagon.
NC's scumread on Titus has poor reasons, but I'm not sure if it's coming from a scummy place. A weird application of meta to be certain, the fact that Titus (according to NC) isn't usually consistent in their reasoning doesn't make them scum when they are. I'm not TRing Titus for the record, just disagree with NC's case on her.
I'll try not to TR Ankamius too hard for their defense of me, as it would be easy to pocket me right now, but they managed to exactly pinpoint my motivations for the sheeping.
I don't expect people to TR me for sheeping a townread, but it's certainly better for the game if I try to latch onto something to get back into the game instead of waiting for me to slog through 70 pages while the day is still going on. A night would allow me, and other players, at least some chance to catch up to the backlog. We're not going to get that night, or any advancement to the gamestate, if we don't get a real wagon going.
Gonna townlean Firebringer. I don't like compromise lynches and I'd normally be pinged by someone attempting to lynch their TR while trying to wash their hands of the result, but my gut says their frustration is genuine and their behavior makes sense for town in these extreme circumstances."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Oh right, Firebringer replaced Accountant, a player I remember gut townreading. Feeling even better about that slot.
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House/Yume (this is not updated as I haven't seen new stuff from this slot)
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Need to take a closer look at Titus and NC to sort them.
I really like Magna's 2508 and 2638, but Magna's burned me one too many times for me to easily TR them."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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EBWOP.In post 2706, Leonshade wrote:
I really like Magna's 2508 and 2636, but Magna's burned me one too many times for me to easily TR them."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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I've only read everything since My eyes started glazing over when I looked at the amount of pages I would have to read, so I decided to get things started by sheeping one of House and Maxous, my top two TRs. House replaced out, so Maxous it was. I put him in my scumpool on the strength of Maxous SRing him, though his recent posting is bad. I will look into him later as promised, but for now I will be focusing on getting back into the game, interactions and forming reads based on the new material.
I didn't even remember who replaced giga and Pepto when I made the McMenno vote."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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No longer SRing Gamma.In post 2775, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Leon: I know you don't want to read the entire game, but could you at least read my ISO? TIA"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Also I found that Nahdia audio and listened to all of it, the fuck is wrong with me?
Did nothing to change my read on her, though. I didn't pay close attention but it was a listing of reads that I think would be easy to fake as scum.
@zakk: I explained most of my reads, at least my scumreads, in the large post you quoted. All reads I either explained in that post, or are leftover reads from prior (those ones I have less confidence in now, I'm not TRing Yume's slot as much for example). If you want an explanation on a specific read, I'll be glad to answer."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Andrius brings up points about NC that, unless there's misrepping going on, makes me want to give scumpoints to NC. Gonna scumlean NC, pending on me taking a closer look at the context of Andrius's quotes. And I'm pretty confident in my Andrius TR so I don't think he's misrepping NC."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Are you kidding me? A wagon hits L-1, there's a VT claim and the wagon gets derailed? Are you just blatantly fishing for PR claims or what?
This Magna wagon is scummy as fuck, I don't approve of it.
VOTE: Narna
This is a better wagon.
Not interested in a Magna-zakk 1v1. Don't like the wagon against Magna and while my zakk TR is residual, nothing has happened to change it."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Is there a practical difference?
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Fine, there are edge-case scenarios where it matters, but that was not my point. My point is that now we're more likely to hit a useful town role as opposed to a useless one. With McMenno we either hit scum or useless, but with how split the town is otherwise, we're on the way to a bad compromise lynch that might cost town a better PR. I'm not blaming people for wanting to avoid a mislynch if they're townreading McMenno, but I don't TR his claim and I think some of the people switching wagons have ulterior motives.In post 3131, Titus wrote:
@Leonshade, Yes. There are roles such as Neopolitans and Vanilla cops that get positives on vanillas and you would be misleading them.
@Andrius:Explain your SR on me. I went from town in 1281 to scum in 2442 when I was on V/LA the entire time."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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In post 3153, Leonshade wrote:@Andrius:Explain your SR on me. I went from town in 1281 to scum in 2442 when I was on V/LA the entire time."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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I saw no explanation for the read change, and thanks to the VLA I thought there was seemingly no reason for it. I wanted to gauge whether your read change was genuine or whether you're scum slipping on your fakereads. Your answer is believable, if not exactly satisfactory.In post 3170, Andrius wrote:The sassy answer is there were over a thousand new posts since then. Chances are I lost your VLA in that timeframe.
Also is this really the most pressing item for you?
I needed more reads from you, as denoted in the former. They did not appear, likely fron VLA, so you were demoted.
Likely didnt see the VLA. shrug
Could someone other than zakk make a case for Magna scum?"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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This wagon sucks.Playlist wrote:*crickets*
Got a townlean on Nosferatu after their recent posts, largely for seeing the same things I do. The Narna wagon is still where I like my vote."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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I went looking through the VCs to see if there had been a wagon on Magna before, and I found this gem:
In post 1588, zakk wrote:i mean
let's just all vote Magna whether you think the other people are town or not
how bout that shit
VOTE: MagnaofIllusionWhat's going on? Are you people just sheeping zakk because you don't have any scumreads?
DOES ANYONE VOTING FOR MAGNA OTHER THAN ZAKK ACTUALLY SCUMREAD MAGNA?"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Not that I feel "hasn't been super-scummy" is a good reason to TR someone anyway, but now that I've read his ISO, I disagree on Narna's opportunism. Look at Narna move from his top SR to Nahdia in 2067 when there's a wagon on her (not scummy in and of itself), then never interact with her (this is where it starts getting scummy) before moving on. I've already said that I felt the wagon on me was opportunistic. Narna's jump was especially opportunistic, as there's no sign of him SRing me before then (he had me as null with "I like his reads" before) and he's jumping from the wagon on McMenno, who's been his top SR up to that point, to me,In post 3232, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yes I TR Narna, because she doesn't feel super-opportunistic, like her predecessor. Even then, I had trouble seeing Pepto as scummy so it wasn't very hard to become a townread.after I also joined the McMenno wagon. The wagon on his top SR was growing and he jumped off to vote for the lurker.
And then we come to Magna.
Narna says he'll go after Magna again, implying that there's been a previous time he went after Magna.
When?
Narna had not once voted, or even pushed on, Magna up to that point. He disagrees with the wagon on him in 1662, townreads him in 2217, has a minor interaction with him that doesn't read at all like a push (even though it's later the supposed basis of one), then posts the above. Don't take my word for it, look at this:
In post 2536, Narna wrote:
It's part of the game, and people were claiming not to have followed it. I was pushing Sly for a reaction. It seems like a protown move to me, even if a little weak.In post 2492, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Very scummy to suggest that a post the Mod very explicitly said was illegal has the same weight as legal game posts …In post 2347, Narna wrote:What you are saying would imply that not listening to Nahdia's hour long reads list (before the mod called foul) is also scummy. Why didn't you call out people for that?
Do you think Creature slipped here?In post 2436, Creature wrote:Not doing it, it's already pointless.In post 2437, Creature wrote:If Yume is scum, scum should have already told her about it.In post 2438, Creature wrote:Nvm.
Those are the only interactions Narna has with Magna between his TRing him and claiming that he wants to "go after him again".In post 2540, Narna wrote:
That was addressed to Magna because he seems to have given you a pass there when Nahdia was not.In post 2537, Creature wrote:No, I am just used for scum having confirmed daychat in large theme games.In post 2176, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Mod - I'll be V/LA from basically now til Monday morning for my usual weekend family duties. Including taking impressionable tweens to haunted houses ..."
Have I mentioned lately I love when scum just take for granted that their Daytalk is common knowledge when nothing in the rules from the Mod indicates Daytalk is in effect?In post 2175, Nahdia wrote:Did anyone else have the thought that Nosferatu probably wouldn't be so clueless about who is in what slot (not realizing Blade Dancer & Giga have been replaced) if he were communicating with a scumteam? Cause I mean, that sprung to mind but I'm sort of struggling with whether the whole premise of that being towny is dumb and bad.
I really love it ...
Narna is scum who can't keep his fakereads straight. Lynch Narna."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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It says "he" under his avatar.
Don't trust me on the Magna thing, read Narna's ISO. Pretending that he's pushed on Magna before is serious misdirection, and relatively easy to get away with in a large game."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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I wonder if Snarky's win condition is ensuring no lynch takes place?
The post does make more sense when interpreted like that, and the rest of your play doesn't give me evidence that you meant otherwise. Why did you "barely" push PV if he was one of your top scumreads?In post 3271, Narna wrote:Leon, this is how my 2564 was supposed to be read
If you think scum is going to lie for absolutely no reason (aside from bussing Magna because why would scum want to ensure they get credit for a mislynch?), then I doubt I'll be convincing you of much. I barely pushed Jining pv, and let it slide when he ignored me. I barely pushed Magna, but he didn't ignore me. I don't see how you can read the posts Magna was throwing at me, and then claim my read on the slot changing was sudden.In post 2564, Narna wrote:I'd rather [the town] go after PV or Magna again, but I'd be ok with [the town] lynching Leon.
3275: I don't think that Nahdia's case was worth sheeping, but Gamma joining the wagon does leave a hole in that argument. Then again, Gamma seems to join every wagon that someone is willing to push.
How does NC manage to post so much without me managing to form a read on them? Gonna scumlean NC for that.
Explain your scumread on Gamma.In post 3302, Narna wrote:My top scum reads are Mcmenno, Magna, PV, you, and my weaker reads would be Andrius and Gamma.
These townreads aren't so strong right now, but Zakk, Not Chara, Nahdia, and Creature.
I joined the McMenno wagon because I was sheeping Maxous, as I explained back then. I didn't even know why Maxous, or anyone else, was scumreading him. I would not consider your slot lynchbait, I was SRing your predecessor and I SR'd what I saw in your ISO. I don't think you should just tunnel your top SR, but outside the Magna push, your ISO did not show much pushing of your wagons. Hell, I specifically pointed out your time on the Nahdia wagon because you did diddly squat to advance that wagon, you just sat on it for a while before moving on. Your defense of yourself on these last few pages is more passionate than your time on the Nahdia wagonIn post 3311, Narna wrote:
Nahdia provided plenty of content to form an opinion on. If you read the part of the game surrounding where I voted you, you should have picked up on multiple people objecting to the Mcmenno wagon. All of the counter wagons when I switched to you were on the biggest pushers of the Mcmenno wagon (Titus, Nahdia, and I). I even expressed my concern of the wagon stalling before Nahdia even voted you in in 2550. I didn't believe that a lurker openly sheeping Maxous would breathe life into the wagonIn post 3235, Leonshade wrote:-snip-
This feels like you just iso'd me to find a reason to push the lynchbait. It also sounds like you would have townread me if I just tunneled my top scumread all phase. I'm pretty sure that's what Mcmenno is doing, and you voted him over three other competing wagons.
P-Edit: I write the above and then I notice you spent 2-3 posts on the Nahdia wagon before moving on to McMenno. Leaving the above in for posterity's sake.
SirCakez's meta argument was bad anyway, but now it's been completely destroyed.
I'm less confident in my Narna read after his response and the realization that I was mistaken on some of my points. While my read on Pepto might be the same (I should go back and re-read his ISO), I'm not certain Narna is scum anymore."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Less than two hours until the original deadline. I don't know if we can get a lynch done in that time, and I think deadline panic would just result in a bad mislynch. I might feel differently if I knew for a fact that the original deadline is the real one, but I don't think we should rush to lynch if we don't know for certain."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Who would you dayvig?In post 3355, Nahdia wrote:What I wouldn't do for a dayvig right now..."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Explain your scumread on me. It's mostly gone unstated, beyond you hating my ISO and me sheeping Maxous.In post 3358, Nahdia wrote:
You.In post 3357, Leonshade wrote:
Who would you dayvig?In post 3355, Nahdia wrote:What I wouldn't do for a dayvig right now..."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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I was hoping for more.In post 3365, Nahdia wrote:
I think you saying "I can't read McMenno" was an excuse to not read him. I do that as scum too.In post 3360, Leonshade wrote:
Explain your scumread on me. It's mostly gone unstated, beyond you hating my ISO and me sheeping Maxous.In post 3358, Nahdia wrote:
You.In post 3357, Leonshade wrote:
Who would you dayvig?In post 3355, Nahdia wrote:What I wouldn't do for a dayvig right now...
I'll be here until deadline, but I doubt enough people are even online to get a wagon going before the original deadline."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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That's the original deadline.In post 5, Skullduggery wrote:Day 1 Will End on Saturday, October 22nd, at 5 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-10-22 17:00:00)"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Pepto's ISO wasn't as bad as I remembered, I could see him as lynchbait as much as scum. Narna satisfactorily explained my biggest scumtell (the Magna thing) and I noticed one of my others (not pushing reads) was flawed, too. The only thing left is jumping on my wagon, and at that point I'm essentially SRing him off of OMGUS.
Yup, I got nothing. Nahdia's my only SR left, and that's a leftover from Giga, too."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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High post volume with lots of white noise hints at scum doing their best to stay under the radar while feigning activity. I feel that if you've managed to post this much without me having a strong opinion of your alignment, there's a decent chance you're intending to not be looked into closely. It's only a lean as I have to look into you more closely.In post 3381, Not Chara wrote:if you're unvoting Narna, vote Magna. no one should not be voting.
how does you being unable to read me translate to a lean scumread, exactly?
Creature: my point was that there was no Cakez wagon. why did you say you'd join one, and what prompted that thought? those were my original questions."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Lining up lynches, are we?In post 3389, SirCakez wrote:if we lynch magna and he flips town can we lynch narna tomorrow?"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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So when is this?In post 2999, SnarkySnowman wrote:So I have the next few hours to pay attention here. Big post coming"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Thanks. Disagreed on McMenno, though.
It's against the rules to post audio files, but if there's game-relevant information there, and someone has already listened to it, it should absolutely weigh into the game. Otherwise the players who have listened to the audio would have to pretend not to have information they do have. If Skullduggery accidentally PM'd me who's scum, he couldn't just make me ignore that and keep playing the game as normal. At that point I wouldn't be playing mafia, I would just be roleplaying.In post 3493, SlySly wrote:The audio file was deemed against the rules. It should not weigh into anything.
The McMenno wagon doesn't interest me. zakk was pushing for Magna the hardest, so I don't think that Magna was the counterwagon to McMenno. Magna may have been the counterwagon to Narna, though.
VOTE: Narna"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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No, but your explanation didn't make me townread you, it just made me doubt my scumread on you. The townflip and the way the Magna wagon played out makes me think counterwagon, and I think you're more likely scum than McMenno.In post 3531, Narna wrote:
Did the town flip make my explanation less satisfactory somehow?In post 3380, Leonshade wrote:Unvote
Pepto's ISO wasn't as bad as I remembered, I could see him as lynchbait as much as scum. Narna satisfactorily explained my biggest scumtell (the Magna thing) and I noticed one of my others (not pushing reads) was flawed, too. The only thing left is jumping on my wagon, and at that point I'm essentially SRing him off of OMGUS.
Yup, I got nothing. Nahdia's my only SR left, and that's a leftover from Giga, too."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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The one pushing the hardest for the Magna wagon was zakk, who flipped town. No doubt there was scum on the Magna wagon, but as I've expressed earlier, the chances are just as likely that they saw McMenno's useless claim and decided to go fishing for a town PR instead."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Uhh, reading back I realize that the people who abandoned the Narna wagon were Maxous (who's town), then me, then Gamma (who's town). Nevermind on that counterwagon theory.
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I don't know who's scum, I need to reread."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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I unvoted during the same minute you asked your question, I didn't go check your D1 wagon and type that post in the <60 seconds between your post and my unvote.In post 3539, Narna wrote:ah I knew I should have just jumped down your throat instead of asking the obvious question to make you double check your opportunism.
How do we know that Nahdia is a blocker? That's her claim, but we have no other evidence of this. She could've claimed to block zakk to cover up her NK in case of a tracker/watcher.In post 3573, Titus wrote:
Well then McMenno automatically believes Nahdia's statement as true, which is concerning.In post 3571, SlySly wrote:
We don't know anything.In post 3569, Titus wrote:We do know Nahdia is a jailkeepeer. She never said the block target today.
The inference is that McMenno knows who Nahdia blocked or that it wasn't Shiro. That's what I find most troubling.
In post 3492, Nahdia wrote:I jailed zakk, in case it wasn't totally clear. Or, tried to. I was blocked or he was strongkilled.
We do know Nahdia is a blocker but alignment unknown."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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How do we know that Nahdia is a blocker? That's her claim, but we have no other evidence of this. She could've claimed to block zakk to cover up her NK in case of a tracker/watcher.[/quote]In post 3573, Titus wrote:
Well then McMenno automatically believes Nahdia's statement as true, which is concerning.In post 3571, SlySly wrote:
We don't know anything.In post 3569, Titus wrote:We do know Nahdia is a jailkeepeer. She never said the block target today.
The inference is that McMenno knows who Nahdia blocked or that it wasn't Shiro. That's what I find most troubling.
In post 3492, Nahdia wrote:I jailed zakk, in case it wasn't totally clear. Or, tried to. I was blocked or he was strongkilled.
We do know Nahdia is a blocker but alignment unknown.
@Titus:I'd still like an answer on this, why do you think we know that Nahdia is a blocker?"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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I'm not sold on Narna scum yet. I'm not trying to lynch Nahdia, I'm trying to sort Titus.In post 3615, Andrius wrote:Or you know, we could not pander to role related madness that may or may not exist and lynch ACTUAL SCUM Narnia.
Just a thought."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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Uh, is there a limit to how many kills you can submit each night? Because that seems like a ridiculous ability.In post 3669, Andrius wrote:
Me.In post 3649, Gamma Emerald wrote:Who has been saying kill all the N names?
With the exception of Nosferatu.
I submitted kills on Narna, Nahdia, and Not Chara last night.
I will continue to do so every night until they are dead, or I die.
I have townreads all over the place here, I don't think this exercise was useful.In post 3699, SlySly wrote:Unofficial post count of the living at time of post (make of it what you will):
368: not chara
335: Gamma
321: house 318 + yume 3 + giovanni 0
312: Blade 137 + Titus 175
303: giga 51 + nahdia 252
217: slysly
214: Accountant 93 + Firebringer 121
175: Creature
157: sircakez
146: mcmenno
127: Andrius
107: narna 95 + pepto 12
91: Ank
87: peregrinev
67: shiro
63: maxous
58: leon
44: nosferatu
29: snarky
21: massive
So I guess it's McMenno or Narna today. And my townreads are split on which way to go, and I don't feel strongly about either being scum. Ugh."I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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There's scum somewhere in one of the six I'm not townreading, and I'm not sure that Narna is it.In post 3419, Skullduggery wrote:(12)MagnaofIllusion--zakk, Nahdia, Not Chara, Narna,Firebringer,Maxous, Creature,Gamma Emerald,Nosferatu, SirCakez,Leonshade, Shiro
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At the start of the day I would've said Narna, but my reasons for scumreading him keep turning out to suck. McMenno should've been the lynch yesterday, but not because I feel strongly about him as scum. I don't have a strong preference for either.In post 3745, Nahdia wrote:where would you much rather lynch, Mr Shade?
I'd vote for Narna basically due to him being on the Magna wagon, which was pushed through by conftown zakk. I'd vote for McMenno because Magna might have been the counterwagon to him?
Eh, McMenno just edges it out.
VOTE: McMenno"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
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