Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

[iraonavp]

Hi, everyone!

VOTE: Foxbeebirdboy

[iraonavp]

Okay, I was and still am a bit lost. I should probably join a nation then...

Join: Antiva

[iraonavp]

The Bieber Brothers, which of your hydra players is posting at the moment?

[iraonavp]

I think Shiro is probably town as well

I'll town it up in the neighborhood no worries

What is that supposed to mean, shouldn't you just appear naturally rather than trying to only look town-aligned in the neighborhood?

This sounds like the sort of scum-aligned thing you would say just to make people feel more comfortable whenever they suspect you.

[iraonavp]

I'm trying to read the thread, but it's hard to distinguish the people who don't have any avatars. Can you please get an avatar if you are just a hydra which doesn't have any?

[iraonavp]

If you want, you should use this as an avatar:

[iraonavp]

But seriously, I suppose it's better for us townies to take up as much of the private chats as possible.

lol

Does anyone, including Dunnstral, know or empathize with why is this post amusing to Dunnstral?

[iraonavp]

Anyway, Albert B. Rampage has made almost no posts, why would anyone think he was town-aligned? Any scum-aligned player can just spam about Skyrim to try and look town-aligned, he did nothing related to the game and just hid behind this.

[iraonavp]

But seriously, I suppose it's better for us townies to take up as much of the private chats as possible.

lol

Does anyone, including Dunnstral, know or empathize with why is this post amusing to Dunnstral?

Maybe he is scum and he is laughing because they have already infiltrated all ptsv?

Maybe, that's what I'm worried about... I don't think they would just say something like that in the thread openly, but I can see less reason to say that as town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Tbh I just realised I don't trust anyone in Orlais par Abr

I had shaddowez down as okay-ish in my speed gut catch-up. What's your read on him?

Eh null.

Hey biber Bros why did you want to be on Tevinter so much?

Btw stray thought, what is the likeness that all scum would join one nation so they control one warden abd use their warden powers freely.

Dwlee really wanted to join them, they were my first choice but I'm fine with every nation really.

I could've sworn scum could choose a warden among themselves, but I can't find that anywhere...

@Mod Can scum choose a warden among themselves?

~McMemeo

There is nothing about it in the first post, I used Ctrl-F. Why would you even ask this? Like, if they can, and the moderator can tell you, it will say in the first post. This is a completely fake question, like you are trying to slip as town-aligned or something...

[iraonavp]

Okay, these are my reads...

Town-aligned - Foxbeebirdboy, Luna Fox, Shiro
Less town-aligned - shaddowez, 100 Percent Ego, PeregrineV, Frizzy Cola, yellowbaron
Null-aligned - Motoko and Scully, Bieber Brothers, Masquerade, Feelmi Udders, Yume, Vedith, randomidget
Less scum-aligned - Albert B. Rampage, SirCakez
Scum-aligned - Dunnstral

[iraonavp]

Are you guys excited to be in a pt with DUNNSTRAL

After what happened last time?

No

I did not utilize the pt because I was scum in that game

Okay, Dunnstral is just trying to spray a mist of WIFOM to confuse us now...

[iraonavp]

VOTE: SirCakez

[iraonavp]

It's not random, I think SirCakez is scum-aligned...

[iraonavp]

Join Orlais

Why are you voting Feelmi Udders?

This is their only post in the entire game.

[iraonavp]

I don't agree at all, it seems like WIFOM to me, and maybe they just wanted to be in the discussion as town-aligned. Lurkers can be either alignment. I can't make a judgement on Feelmi Udders if they haven't even posted a sentence.

Frizzy Cola, our PT is only open in the night.

I think we should vote without saying who otherwise they could get roleblocked.

[iraonavp]

Isn't everyone a PR? "Rolefishing" is not scum-aligned anyway, that's a terrible reason to vote someone.

[iraonavp]

I actually find it really weird that you'd turn this into a way of scumframing people for potentially scumframing. I'm into weird so I'm gonna say that I think it's scummy to suggest that it's scummy for people to suggest that role fishing is scummy.

Role fishing IS scummy. That's not debatable. Whether or not Bieber was actually role fishing is.

It is debatable, why would he do that if he was scum-aligned...

Meanwhile there is a clear town-aligned motive which they just explained.

[iraonavp]

Meanwhile there is a clear town-aligned motive which they just explained.

So the town motive is because they can't find out if Shiro has a strong early power in the PT, right?
Ummm Yeah, strong town motive there.

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic...

We don't have a PT.

If they're scum-aligned, it's not for this reason, they had this in mind the whole time!

[iraonavp]

VOTE: iraonavp

Why are you voting me?

I find it suspicious and slightly scum-aligned that you would just vote me without mentioning me at all or giving any reason.

[iraonavp]

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic...

Then we haven't played enough games together yet...

What?

Are you saying that was a sarcastic post or not...

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Dunnstral

I think he had scum-aligned and vulture-like circling of Masquerade, which was not scumhunting but trying to make Masquerade look bad.

[iraonavp]

That's not at all what I said. A cheap townpoints play is something done to look to appear townie without actually being townie.

Claiming Kingmaker encourages budddying and sucking up to his slot.
When ABR could use that power to threaten cajole and then drop it to gain useful information.

I see it as a reason to scumread ABR later, not right now.

~rb

This doesn't make sense. You're seemingly deflecting conversation away from ABR

This is a scum-aligned post because it makes the assumption that yellowbaron is scum-aligned, and it's like asking someone why they have a scum-aligned role PM. It's just posturing and the more town-aligned way to say this would be "I dislike how you are deflecting attention from ABR".

[iraonavp]

Placate who? One of you is Nero the other I've never even heard of. If I wanted you to unvote me I would say so. No. I want you to play their little game and become warden because I think you can be useful in driving the scum out of Orlais and Tevinter Imperium. It's as simple as that.

You keep playing your weird empire roleplay game, we will keep playing mafia ^,...,^


-Hebi

What in the post you've quoted do you consider roleplay?

Why play dumb in regards to this?

Okay, this is another scum-aligned example!

I'm also happy because Dunnstral is the leading wagon now I saw.

[iraonavp]

BB
ABR

I've already solved like 1/3rd of the game

I've been ruminating on this since they posted it. Anyone think this could be a slip? We weren't told how many scum there were, and there's just as likely 4 as 6, so why not say "I've already solved like 1/2 of the game"?

~boring

This is town.

[iraonavp]

I will breadcrumb important information in this post in case I'm mislynched during my V/LA that starts on Tuesday.

We drink to our youth, for the days come and gone.
For the age of oppression is now nearly done.
We'll drive out the Empire from this land that we own.
With our blood and our steel we'll take back our home.

All hail to Ulfric! You are the High King!
In your great honor we drink and we sing.
We're the children of Skyrim, and we fight all our lives.
And when Sovngarde beckons, every one of us dies!
But this land is ours and we'll see it wiped clean.
Of the scourge that has sullied our hopes and our dreams!

Note how this post exists only to deter a lynch on himself. If he had something important he'd use the last will instead of making a big show out of it.

Obviously ABR forgot that (so did I).

Dunnstral's posting lacks fluidity.

[iraonavp]

You're calling baron town to placate him I see. We'll see how that works out for you.

What? I still think they're town-aligned as I'm reading through, by the way...

[iraonavp]

That's not at all what I said. A cheap townpoints play is something done to look to appear townie without actually being townie.

Claiming Kingmaker encourages budddying and sucking up to his slot.
When ABR could use that power to threaten cajole and then drop it to gain useful information.

I see it as a reason to scumread ABR later, not right now.

~rb

This doesn't make sense. You're seemingly deflecting conversation away from ABR

This is a scum-aligned post because it makes the assumption that yellowbaron is scum-aligned, and it's like asking someone why they have a scum-aligned role PM. It's just posturing and the more town-aligned way to say this would be "I dislike how you are deflecting attention from ABR".

Why are you misrepresenting me?

I don't know, probably because I'm scum-aligned...

That's the answer that is implied from that question...

[iraonavp]

I've asked Baron in the PT to come out with a strong vote on Dunstal. Baron needs to DISAVOW Dunstal's buddying to him.

Oh, I thought you were talking to me, nevermind.

[iraonavp]

No that's a bad post, it's very clear what my stance on Abr is.

Is that your contribution to the game?

It is terrible. It attempts to cast the post in a negative light while avoiding comment on how it is alignment indicative. Even now, you're dodging my question with regards to what you're trying to imply with regards to ABR's alignment.

Your post was not a very clear stance on ABR in the slightest - this answer you gave in response dodged my very clear inquiry of providing a stance on ABR.

VOTE: DUNNSTRAL

I agree with this, it's good that you started posting more as well.

Motoko and Scully constantly defending Dunnstral makes me think that they could be partners together because even if they think Dunnstral is town-aligned, I seriously doubt it would be at the strength to constantly defend them because of Dunnstral's play so far.

[iraonavp]

The questions you ask have no answers, therefore they are posturing. I may be tunneling but I am tunneling the right person.

Your unpunctuated plea means nothing to me, I would trust you if you were actually town-aligned...

[iraonavp]

Okay, I checked Vedith's ISO and I agree about him being scum-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Beescum is my top scumread and who I want lynched. I don't like how quick he was to change to vedith and put conditions if it flips town

No, he seems really obviously town-aligned and you're just taking small things out of context.

Scully and Ira, can you guys talk to me about Vedith? Why?

Yes, because I can post messages on this forum containing text.

[iraonavp]

I will vote Vedith depending on the next vote count.

[iraonavp]

I will lynch anyone.

I get that this is a joke but it's kind of a cop out. Surely you have some reads?

I think that Masquerade's response to being voted was honest and town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Ira you've been taking things out of context all game

No... My reads are mostly context! But I have to describe it using examples.

[iraonavp]

I will lynch anyone.

I get that this is a joke but it's kind of a cop out. Surely you have some reads?

I think that Masquerade's response to being voted was honest and town-aligned.

I exist to see the next dawn and nothing more. I never claimed to be a righteous man.

You are more likely to get lynched if you do this...

SirCakez, why do you think Dunnstral is town-aligned?

"While I think you're town, this vote stinks" doesn't sound right after calling other people scum-aligned mostly for who they vote.

[iraonavp]

I agree that Cake is towny

Hey cake can you explain why Vedith is scum for me pretty please with a cherry on top

What?

This post sounds incredibly fake and suspicious...

[iraonavp]

I swear to fuck it this is another reaction wagon

I'm not sure what that means...

I think Vedith is scum-aligned for his vote misrepresenting TBB as "rolefishing".

[iraonavp]

because I want to elect a good warden, and I think shiro will be a good warden, unless their ability is currently useless... so I want to know that.

It's basically role fishing though.
If you want to vote Shiro then vote Shiro, trying to find out if the role early game is good is scummy as fuck.

VOTE: Beiber

Vedith doesn't really believe what he's saying.

[iraonavp]

I agree that Cake is towny

Hey cake can you explain why Vedith is scum for me pretty please with a cherry on top

What?

This post sounds incredibly fake and suspicious...

HOW

...

See, exactly...

[iraonavp]

Radical Rat and shadowez might also be scum

Do you want to be Ferelden's warden Cakey?

I refuse to vote him, he isn't town-aligned at all...

[iraonavp]

Radical Rat and shadowez might also be scum

Do you want to be Ferelden's warden Cakey?

I refuse to vote him, he isn't town-aligned at all...

You're not ferelden

Oh, good point. I thought he was on my team.

I think you are confused because I'm talking about voting him to be warden.

[iraonavp]

I saw that post but I would rather be on a team that has a private chat.

SirCakez, I don't want to answer because you will fragment and banish my arguments. I think you are scum-aligned because your stances are improper and disagreeable, and your posts are weak.

[iraonavp]

I saw that post but I would rather be on a team that has a private chat.

SirCakez, I don't want to answer because you will fragment and banish my arguments. I think you are scum-aligned because your stances are improper and disagreeable, and your posts are weak.

I think you need this. You're the townie with bad reads here.

Okay, well... I disagree with you too.

[iraonavp]

What do you think is improper and disagreeable?

Saying that Feelmi Udders is scum-aligned ever after they stopped lurking, when that was the only reason to find them suspicious in the first place. Like you just wanted to stay consistent.

And when you say that yellowbaron is wrong about it being a scumslip, they acknowledge this, you're just handwaving "misrep" and even being wrong about a scumslip is a town-aligned thing to do. But the way you present it without elaboration is as if there couldn't be any other interpretation.

[iraonavp]

No that's a bad post, it's very clear what my stance on Abr is.

Is that your contribution to the game?

It is terrible. It attempts to cast the post in a negative light while avoiding comment on how it is alignment indicative. Even now, you're dodging my question with regards to what you're trying to imply with regards to ABR's alignment.

Your post was not a very clear stance on ABR in the slightest - this answer you gave in response dodged my very clear inquiry of providing a stance on ABR.

VOTE: DUNNSTRAL

How is this post scum-aligned, Feelmi Udders has only read a small part of the thread but is already pointing out what they noticed in a town-aligned way.

[iraonavp]

I'm so townie even my title is townie.

I disagree, are you just saying this to convince yourself? I don't see why a town-aligned player would post this...

[iraonavp]

Dunnstral,do you have a role that only makes sense as town-aligned (e.g. vigilante, while roleblocker would not be)?

[iraonavp]

He's obviously lying, he can't be warden...

Unless he is scum-aligned with Vedith of course.

[iraonavp]

I'm starting to think I've been wrong about iraon

Why? I'm town-aligned...

[iraonavp]

NEROCAIN because it's only day one, there are no day abilities.

[iraonavp]

strangle:Ira

...

[iraonavp]

I'm reading (sigh!) but answer me if this wasn't answered yet: did anyone assume leader position in Teventer?

No, it was specifically stated by one of them that there is no leader.

[iraonavp]

Dunnstral, you avoided my question...

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Vedith

[iraonavp]

Neither of Vedith and Dunnstral want to vote each other. Their excuses are strained and I think they are scum-aligned together.

P-EDIT: Really, huh?

[iraonavp]

Well posts like that don't make me think otherwise...

[iraonavp]

Dunnstral,do you have a role that only makes sense as town-aligned (e.g. vigilante, while roleblocker would not be)?

No.

It's a theme game btw - scum vig is entirely possible, ESPECIALLY in a set-up like this

Aren't scum already basically all vig?

This is a fake attempt to townslip, no way he thought the setup works like that. It seems like something Radical Rat would do while going fast like Sonic.

Dunnstral,do you have a role that only makes sense as town-aligned (e.g. vigilante, while roleblocker would not be)?

OMG UR ROLEFISHING

lynch pls

I am playing this game from my phone/tablet until Monday and ctrl+f is not a feature available to me.

There's usually a "Find in page" button in the menu of mobile browsers.

I will lynch anyone.

This post is up to no good.

Always

be careful about your lynches.
VOTE: randomidget


ABR is Town. Strange, yes. But Town Strange, not Scum Strange.

What's up with the Vedith wagon? It just kinda... popped up out of nowhere??
I also see people talking about PV, but I haven't seen any posts from them...

Yellowbaron is sketchy to me. Difficult to articulate, but I just feel like something's wrong with the way they're engaging. Feels... unnatural.

And lastly...

Warden Vote: Frizzy Cola

bad vote for bad reasons.

Scum's goal is to lynch whoever they can. That's what was just expressed by RM here.
If that's a bad reason, so be it.

He knows that his reason is bad and overly simplistic but thinks that nobody will see past the WIFOM.

[iraonavp]

@iraonavp

Who

aren't

you scumreading?
Serious question.

Everyone in the game except you, Dunnstral, Vedith, and SirCakez.

[iraonavp]

Spoiler:

inb4 iraonavp says this is a scum-aligned post that town wouldn't make

I wasn't going to say anything until I read that because it's just null-aligned, but it's scum-aligned that you are so conscious of how you are perceived. Even though you mention it as WIFOM, I doubt you would even think of it if you were town-aligned...

[iraonavp]

I think, for today at least, we should lynch outside of Tevinter.

Luna and Titus both have plans for sorting their nation, and seem reasonably confident they'll get a Masonry out of it.
That's worth letting them do, imo.

OK guys I found scum now. Notice how I didn't call anyone else I voted scum. I waited until I had a serious read.

Rat is scum. I guarantee it. Everybody sheep me.

What nation benefits scum the most? The one with a hidden vote for warden? The one with daychat so they can spy on and control townies? Tevinter is the most hospitable environment for more than one scum to join.

Rat doesn't want you to vote there for nebulous reasons he implies he doesn't understand himself. Tevinter has time and time again stood up for each other and defended their own members. How are they supposed to become a masonry if they deflect every single wagon on one of their members like Luna and Monole has done when we voted Dun? That vedith counterwagon was fast, and organized.

No, Tevinter had likely 2-3 scum in it and Rat is the one outside of it.

VOTE: Rat

I agree that Radical Rat is scum-aligned, but I don't understand what this means or why it is such a decisive blow in your eyes.

It sounds like the type of thing that you can't work out unless you have several flips...

[iraonavp]

What?

SirCakez, I'm not trolling just because you disagree.

[iraonavp]

Dunnstral, I'm not! I always say what I believe when I'm town-aligned...

[iraonavp]

Okay, we should just lynch Vedith... No reason to hear his claim since he is effectively VT if we don't elect him, and there is no way to tell the validity of a claim.

[iraonavp]

I'm not actually a dragon, I'm a centaurion...

I think that because there are a lot of players in this game I have noticed in the past that it's significantly more difficult to get lynches through, and we will get stuck if we hesitate early on.

[iraonavp]

So, once again, I'll like to point out, the reason I am scum to Titus is because I made 3 phone posts in the space of 3PM and 3AM on a Saturday evening. This is the case that she has on me.

Spoiler: Titus + hebichan

Also, I am a Tracker. I'm the mighty Assassin Rogue

/FLEX

You're just cherrypicking the worst argument to defend yourself.

My role is assassin rogue and a similar ability, so while you are probably telling the truth you are a scum-aligned tracker with a flavor fake claim... Tracker can be scum-aligned or town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Yes, because you are probably lying about being assassin rogue...

[iraonavp]

...

[iraonavp]

masq ignoring his wagon and instead taking potshots at me is probably the first thing I've seen from him that I'd want to vote him for

ok I'll bite
VOTE: masquerade
vedith and yellowbaron need death though

This is opportunistic and I think he tried to hide how opportunistic it was.

Masquerade is probably town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

This townblocking is actually absurd to me because it seems largely based on nation selection but as I've said I don't think you could accurately glean what is or isn't scumplay since they could do the expected or unexpected. Scum/townreading based on nation joined just seems dumb to me until there's actual flips.

Rat is scum
Cakez is scum

In wayb4 omgus :^)

I agree with this post entirely.

Whatever

I'm a warrior

There is zero town-aligned motivation for this... He's just trying to make himself look more town-aligned by claiming early.

[iraonavp]

Masquerade's response here is garbage, and there's actually a chance of the lynch going through...

I'm not done with you though, Baron... You will be lynched before this decade is out.

VOTE: Masquerade

Yeah, this is the same as what SirCakez did, and he has a Sonic the Hedgehog avatar...

This is scum.

[iraonavp]

Masquerade's response here is garbage, and there's actually a chance of the lynch going through...

I'm not done with you though, Baron... You will be lynched before this decade is out.

VOTE: Masquerade

Why you wanna lynch a townie though?

...oh, right.

Where did I say that Masquerade was Townie?
Where did I say that you were Townie?

This is such a scum-aligned response.

yellowbaron is really town-aligned as well.

[iraonavp]

Ira is "scumhunting" my posts again

Dunnstral is "discrediting" my posts again.

Why did you claim?

[iraonavp]

Okay, I'm just going to sheep Albert B. Rampage because I haven't read all the pages yet.

VOTE: Luna Fox

[iraonavp]

Ok guys, I 180, Baron is town, Radical is the scum of the two.

So can you guys do me the favor of l-1ing FU? I am gonna admit that the masquerade wagon seems pretty town led but guys, guys it is still horrible while the FU one is also pretty town led but in contrary is actually good.

Which townie would not try to get engaged when being obviously driven to death?

Answer: none

It is scum hoping his buddies will divert attention and the lurking will make them forgetful enough for people to after that move on.

Okay, you're right about yellowbaron and Radical Rat.

And even if the Masquerade wagon is town-aligned, Masquerade is still probably town-aligned from what he had said so far...

Feelmi Udders is just not doing anything, and that's null-aligned. In the past I have seen too many mislynches because someone tried to wagon a lurker for only that reason, and they were town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

I am slightly less sure about Vedith being scum-aligned.

VOTE: Radical Rat

He is the most likely to be scum-aligned...

[iraonavp]

Because everyone can be warden and wardens are the only way players have PRs.

Based on?

I've seen exactly 2 role PMs.

Mine and the sample.

Assuming Beiber has seen the same-

Curious as to why Beiber thinks

everyone

has a PR?

I thought it was like that as well, but it doesn't say anywhere.

It probably is like that though, unless you're vanilla townie...

[iraonavp]

Actually never mind, I take it back.

Vote Count 1.12

Feelmi Udders (L-5): Shiro , Vedith , Dunnstral , Frizzy Cola , Bieber Brothers , randomidget
Masquerade (L-6) : 100 Percent Ego , Motoko and Scully , Luna Fox , SirCakez , Radical Rat
Dunnstral (L-9): Feelmi Udders , Foxbeebirdboy
Luna Fox (L-9) : Albert B. Rampage , iraonavp
Radical Rat (L-10) : yellowbaron
SirCakez (L-10) : Masquerade

Not Voting (3) : Yume , PeregrineV , shaddowez


With 20 players alive it takes 11 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2016-08-13 12:00:00)

By civilized standards Fereldan cities are anarchic, and Denerim is no exception. The Fereldan penchant for personal freedom engenders a laissez-faire attitude towards law enforcement and public behavior in general.

Warden Vote

randomidget (2) : Frizzy Cola , Radical Rat

Not Voting (3): SirCakez , randomidget, Yume

[/b]

And wow, this is a terrible vote count...

Why would you vote Masquerade or just some lurker, seriously...

Radical Rat is clearly scum-aligned.

VOTE: Radical Rat

I changed my mind and I think SirCakez is slightly town-aligned from reading page 61.

I feel unspecified distrust towards Luna Fox but I don't think they are that suspicious.

[iraonavp]

I will breadcrumb important information in this post in case I'm mislynched during my V/LA that starts on Tuesday.

We drink to our youth, for the days come and gone.
For the age of oppression is now nearly done.
We'll drive out the Empire from this land that we own.
With our blood and our steel we'll take back our home.

All hail to Ulfric! You are the High King!
In your great honor we drink and we sing.
We're the children of Skyrim, and we fight all our lives.
And when Sovngarde beckons, every one of us dies!
But this land is ours and we'll see it wiped clean.
Of the scourge that has sullied our hopes and our dreams!

Note how this post exists only to deter a lynch on himself. If he had something important he'd use the last will instead of making a big show out of it.

This is a bad post. What are you trying to imply with regards to ABR's alignment?

No that's a bad post, it's very clear what my stance on Abr is.

Is that your contribution to the game?

It is terrible. It attempts to cast the post in a negative light while avoiding comment on how it is alignment indicative. Even now, you're dodging my question with regards to what you're trying to imply with regards to ABR's alignment.

Your post was not a very clear stance on ABR in the slightest - this answer you gave in response dodged my very clear inquiry of providing a stance on ABR.

VOTE: DUNNSTRAL

Well from what they have posted, this looks like town-aligned scumhunting. From how confident they are, Feelmi Udders has seen Dunnstral's alignment and wants to do something about it.

I really don't know what you see. Just because someone is inactive doesn't mean they are actively avoiding posting, they probably have a busy life stopping them from posting and maybe didn't even log in to the site...

[iraonavp]

210 says that orlais your hood and antiva are filled with scrubs is scumhunting. You try to minimize that off as "banter" suggests he's right. Talking about fluff when it relates to alignment is scumhunting.

Also, I disagree, calling someone as a scrub is more of a friendly banter term, at least online.
"Scrub - Someone who is below your level." Does this make someone scummy?

This is scum-aligned because Vedith says that it

could

be this, rather than saying what it was this.

[iraonavp]

Motoko and Scully are really town-aligned, and I think I only didn't see this earlier because I disagreed with them.

[iraonavp]

If anyone has actually legitimate concerns with me, not stuff like "not doing anything" or other garbage, please let me know.

I like the way that SirCakez deals with the accusations against him, in this and other posts.

[iraonavp]

210 says that orlais your hood and antiva are filled with scrubs is scumhunting. You try to minimize that off as "banter" suggests he's right. Talking about fluff when it relates to alignment is scumhunting.

Also, I disagree, calling someone as a scrub is more of a friendly banter term, at least online.
"Scrub - Someone who is below your level." Does this make someone scummy?

This is scum-aligned because Vedith says that it

could

be this, rather than saying what it was this.

I know everyone will dismiss this as semantics...

It is scum-aligned because Vedith is being vague and evasive about it, and not addressing it directly. This is simply scum-aligned behavior.

[iraonavp]

Now, I don't know whether you're scum, or if you just have a manipulative scum-hunting style (and we just happen to be seeing things very differently). Time will help sort that out.

They are extremely manipulative and it's just forcing their bad agenda on everyone else. That's why we should listen to Albert B. Rampage as a leader instead of Motoko and Scully, because he is actually going to lynch scum-aligned players...

[iraonavp]

"Hello, I won't talk to you about my scumreads unless you vote them first, kthxbai"

This post is a literal scumclaim...

[iraonavp]

You're scum, nobody trusts you except, a word that I will not say. I won't say it.

Funny thing tho is that you're probably town if there is indeed scum in tevinter. Otherwise you wouldn't be arguing this.

This is nonsensical...

I can't tell whether or not you actually believe that.

[iraonavp]

Okay, I'm just going to sheep Albert B. Rampage because I haven't read all the pages yet.

VOTE: Luna Fox

Yeah I'm totally dropping my townread of iraon

What? I'm town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

This is awful...

Feelmi Udders is probably town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Feelmi Udders

This being L-1 actually makes me kind of nervous.

I do hope they Beetlejuice before a hammer...
But I suppose they HAVE had plenty of opportunity to show up and play...

This is scum, and voting another town-aligned player too.

[iraonavp]

or just get anyone else in your hood to confirm that.

Confirmed. PV claimed lie detector and checked Luna.

How is it possible to be lie detector if it's only you can be PR from being elected to Warden... I don't believe you.

[iraonavp]

Btw Ira just so you know. Even if we lynch FU before you talk, you got shit to explain about this post edit you did to Vedith.

P.edit

LOL

Ira explain what tha Bullshit was

P edit 2

Speed of the wagon?

Hahahahaha. Oh please I have been trying to make this happen since start of day.

What do you want to explain?

I actually did vote Foxbeebirdboy, did he claim or something? I didn't read the thread yet...

[iraonavp]

or just get anyone else in your hood to confirm that.

Confirmed. PV claimed lie detector and checked Luna.

How is it possible to be lie detector if it's only you can be PR from being elected to Warden... I don't believe you.

But PV did claim that.

What?

[iraonavp]

Now, I don't know whether you're scum, or if you just have a manipulative scum-hunting style (and we just happen to be seeing things very differently). Time will help sort that out.

Okay... Do you know how to use search function?

Obviously that was a mistake from editing multi quotes, that was the original thing I meant to quote.

[iraonavp]

or just get anyone else in your hood to confirm that.

Confirmed. PV claimed lie detector and checked Luna.

How is it possible to be lie detector if it's only you can be PR from being elected to Warden... I don't believe you.

But PV did claim that.

What?

But PV did claim that.

So what... I know that he did claim that, I don't expect Mokoto and Scully to lie.

[iraonavp]

At the moment I think it is more likely that PeregrineV is just scum-aligned and Luna Fox is maybe scum-aligned...

I'm not very sure about Luna Fox, but I am bothered by how she is so desperate to get ABR lynched after her, when there is supposedly an innocent result on her. Why would she expect to be lynched at all?

[iraonavp]

Okay, I meant to say I don't believe that this happened, not that I don't believe Mokoto and Scully.

VOTE: Feelmi Udders

This being L-1 actually makes me kind of nervous.

I do hope they Beetlejuice before a hammer...
But I suppose they HAVE had plenty of opportunity to show up and play...

This is scum, and voting another town-aligned player too.

This is STANDARD for me. I don't like lynching people who aren't here to defend themselves, and I will never hammer them until they show up, but will very hesitantly L-1 them.

If I need to pull quotes from other games I will.

That is not why your post is obviously scum-aligned at all. The fact that you assume it does also makes you scum-aligned.

Anyway, lynching Feelmi Udders is such a stupid idea when PeregrineV basically scumslipped...

[iraonavp]

At the moment I think it is more likely that PeregrineV is just scum-aligned and Luna Fox is maybe scum-aligned...

I'm not very sure about Luna Fox, but I am bothered by how she is so desperate to get ABR lynched after her, when there is supposedly an innocent result on her. Why would she expect to be lynched at all?

Eww. That's totally mischaracterizing the situation.

Luna was wanting ABR hanged because she thought he counterclaimed her.

If you do decide to not believe me today and lynch me, please promise me you'll lynch ABR tomorrow after i flip town, dont and i re peat DO NOT let him get away with this BS he's pulling.

[iraonavp]

Radical Rat, unvote immediately.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Feelmi Udders

This being L-1 actually makes me kind of nervous.

I do hope they Beetlejuice before a hammer...
But I suppose they HAVE had plenty of opportunity to show up and play...

This is scum, and voting another town-aligned player too.

This is STANDARD for me. I don't like lynching people who aren't here to defend themselves, and I will never hammer them until they show up, but will very hesitantly L-1 them.

If I need to pull quotes from other games I will.

This is saying that you know Feelmi Udders will flip town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

especially not because another scumread told me to.

[iraonavp]

What kind of cop is stupid enough to claim at the start of day 1 in a PT that basically anyone can join? That scum are incentivized to join, even?

Even from your perspective, you must wonder what advantage she gets from this as scum and as town. As scum she locks down your nation and gets you to be her puppets. As town, it's the single dumbest move in this entire game.

Think for two seconds.

I think you're going to just call me "Dumb town" to avoid your lynch tomorrow, Guys please dont let ABR get away with this, please.
If you do decide to not believe me today and lynch me, please promise me you'll lynch ABR tomorrow after i flip town, dont and i re peat DO NOT let him get away with this BS he's pulling.

Hey foxbeething, your frustration with this game and your recent voting patterns have improved my gut scumread of you to a gut townread. Welcome to the townblock.

ABR townblock vs Titus' townblock. Which sheep will win?

I want more sheeps on Masq. I guess I need to yell more so folks know I started the masq wagon.

JOIN THE MASQ WAGON AND EARN 2 TOWNPOINTS YOU FUCKS!

Okay, but why is nobody else voting...

VOTE: PeregrineV

He obviously lied because there are no day actions in this game, and you can't use abilities without being elected to warden.

[iraonavp]

I didn't mean to quote those three posts, they were things I was going to reply to but I discarded it.

[iraonavp]

Motoko and Scully, do you still think yellowbaron are scum-aligned?

[iraonavp]

He obviously lied because there are no day actions in this game

Did you even read the sample role PM?
Or your own for that matter.

I said it before, why put a normal abilities section aside from warden abilities if there are never going to be any, it doesnt make any sense.

Well, maybe for the scum-aligned factional kill.

Nobody else in the game has it, but PeregrineV is claiming something extremely unlikely.

And ABR didn't lie...

[iraonavp]

He obviously lied because there are no day actions in this game

Did you even read the sample role PM?
Or your own for that matter.

I said it before, why put a normal abilities section aside from warden abilities if there are never going to be any, it doesnt make any sense.

Well, maybe for the scum-aligned factional kill.

Nobody else in the game has it, but PeregrineV is claiming something extremely unlikely.

And ABR didn't lie...

Mages are not cops. Period. ABR lied.

Extremely unlikely is notable. He also claimed it unprompted. It's worth analyzing. To call it a scumslip though is just inaccurate.

It's probably a scumslip because PeregrineV didn't know that town-aligned players had no non-warden abilities.

We have like 8 claims and literally nobody said that they have it...

ABR never said that, I am reading that argument now and he's right.

[iraonavp]

Speculating about the nations is pointless imo. I was going to do it but scum could follow any pattern really.

-rb

This feels scummy to me. "I was gonna do this, but we just can't predict those slippery scum folk, so here's an essentially blank post."

Fos: Radical Rat

If it's because of lurking, I've just been somewhat busy lately.
The weekend should be full of life from me!

I think, for today at least, we should lynch outside of Tevinter.

Luna and Titus both have plans for sorting their nation, and seem reasonably confident they'll get a Masonry out of it.
That's worth letting them do, imo.

OK guys I found scum now. Notice how I didn't call anyone else I voted scum. I waited until I had a serious read.

Rat is scum. I guarantee it. Everybody sheep me.

What nation benefits scum the most? The one with a hidden vote for warden? The one with daychat so they can spy on and control townies? Tevinter is the most hospitable environment for more than one scum to join.

Rat doesn't want you to vote there for nebulous reasons he implies he doesn't understand himself. Tevinter has time and time again stood up for each other and defended their own members. How are they supposed to become a masonry if they deflect every single wagon on one of their members like Luna and Monole has done when we voted Dun? That vedith counterwagon was fast, and organized.

No, Tevinter had likely 2-3 scum in it and Rat is the one outside of it.

VOTE: Rat

I disagree. It makes more sense for scum to spread out so they can have eyes on ALL of the chats.
And even if I were the sole outlying scum... Why would I have picked the nation with NO secret communication? Orlais and Tevinter were full when I joined, but Antiva was still open.

Instead, I picked Ferelden because I wanted to be part of the nation with the most transparency. We can't cook up schemes, or lie about our Warden.

"Hello, I won't talk to you about my scumreads unless you vote them first, kthxbai"

The last post was obviously supposed to be making fun of someone else, hence the quotes, but RR should have quoted them.

Otherwise, these other RR posts above don't seem that scummy? The first one seems kinda like a new player and the rest seem like he's actually scum hunting.

The last quote is very scum-aligned and fake, he just pops into the thread to take one potshot at yellowbaron and then leaves like his Sonic the Hedgehog avatar...

He isn't a new player and he is trying to appear more open but it looks really bad.

[iraonavp]

To be fair, there could be multiple types of mages.

For example, I'm a Battlemage. ABR could be some other mage with different abilities.

There is zero town-aligned motivation to claim your role randomly, the scum-aligned players obviously have fakeclaims that you are using.

Your claim says nothing about ABR at all, and you deliberately ignored the context of our conversation to find an excuse to claim your flavor.

[iraonavp]

Luna
Vedith
Iro
Beeboy
ABR
Luna
PV

I count 7 ability claims lol.

Yes, and PeregrineV is the only one with a non-warden, and a day ability...

[iraonavp]

ABR claimed cop and Mage.
Everyone has told him Mages are not Cops.
All the investigatives are not Mages.
ABR lied. That's like pretty clear there.
The only question is why.

And I've designed setups where the unique claim was town. See Mass Effect Mafia. Town got played for mislynching based off that.

What? This doesn't make any sense.

Everyone has told him Mages are not Cops.

How did everyone know this..?

All the investigatives are not Mages.

How do you know this..?

I think ABR is telling the truth...

[iraonavp]

Oh shit.
What brought that on?

At any rate, my claim is Battlemage, and I should not have a giant wagon, because I am Town. Though I don't really have a way to prove that yet, I invite anyone with a cop ability to check me out. Obviously, don't claim that though.

iraonvp, RR already claimed his flavor. He didn't work it into his claim.

Okay, I didn't read up to that part yet, I'm still more than 10 pages behind... Even that post is so awful.

Look how many times he qualifies his comments, just adding on little things to say at the end. Trying to feign surprise at his wagon, as well. That is not a genuine reaction.

[iraonavp]

Speculating about the nations is pointless imo. I was going to do it but scum could follow any pattern really.

-rb

This feels scummy to me. "I was gonna do this, but we just can't predict those slippery scum folk, so here's an essentially blank post."

Fos: Radical Rat

If it's because of lurking, I've just been somewhat busy lately.
The weekend should be full of life from me!

I think, for today at least, we should lynch outside of Tevinter.

Luna and Titus both have plans for sorting their nation, and seem reasonably confident they'll get a Masonry out of it.
That's worth letting them do, imo.

OK guys I found scum now. Notice how I didn't call anyone else I voted scum. I waited until I had a serious read.

Rat is scum. I guarantee it. Everybody sheep me.

What nation benefits scum the most? The one with a hidden vote for warden? The one with daychat so they can spy on and control townies? Tevinter is the most hospitable environment for more than one scum to join.

Rat doesn't want you to vote there for nebulous reasons he implies he doesn't understand himself. Tevinter has time and time again stood up for each other and defended their own members. How are they supposed to become a masonry if they deflect every single wagon on one of their members like Luna and Monole has done when we voted Dun? That vedith counterwagon was fast, and organized.

No, Tevinter had likely 2-3 scum in it and Rat is the one outside of it.

VOTE: Rat

I disagree. It makes more sense for scum to spread out so they can have eyes on ALL of the chats.
And even if I were the sole outlying scum... Why would I have picked the nation with NO secret communication? Orlais and Tevinter were full when I joined, but Antiva was still open.

Instead, I picked Ferelden because I wanted to be part of the nation with the most transparency. We can't cook up schemes, or lie about our Warden.

"Hello, I won't talk to you about my scumreads unless you vote them first, kthxbai"

The last post was obviously supposed to be making fun of someone else, hence the quotes, but RR should have quoted them.

Otherwise, these other RR posts above don't seem that scummy? The first one seems kinda like a new player and the rest seem like he's actually scum hunting.

The last quote is very scum-aligned and fake, he just pops into the thread to take one potshot at yellowbaron and then leaves like his Sonic the Hedgehog avatar...

He isn't a new player and he is trying to appear more open but it looks really bad.

I mean, this is only my... 5th game? MAYBE 6th?

Newbie
Newbie
Detective Conan
Greatest Idea
Dota
This

Yeah, 6th.
I still consider myself pretty new.

It doesn't matter, you're still scum-aligned.

[iraonavp]

I can confirm as a claimed mage that I am infact not a cop or investigative.

I truthfully wield the unstable explosion magic.

I target a nation and 3 of it's inhabitants die. Sadly I cannot control which ones are offed

Okay, I will change my vote to you on the condition that you use it on Tevinter Imperium. That's a really strong ability.

[iraonavp]

Yeah and how convenient that he claimed the exact same (2-shot) limitation i did have, if there's scum in tevinter, then ABR is definitively scum getting info from them.

Every one of the roles is 2-shot, it even says in the first post that you can only be warden abilities twice.

[iraonavp]

Foxbeebirdboy, please vote Shiro as the warden so we can kill multiple scum-aligned players...

Okay, never mind...

[iraonavp]

Why bother? Anything I say in the public thread is just gonna result in Titus throwing shade at me if it has anything to do with any of her precious townreads. This game is literally the least fun I've ever had because I can't even fucking scumhunt without having to endure being endlessly misrepped by her. That's why I've been so insulting, because I asked her MULTIPLE times to please RE-READ what she's talking about and she's just like, "ner ner caught scum ner ner!"

She's made associative tells pre-game and pre-flip and she's confbiasing SO FUCKING HARD right now, which is why I think it's imperative every single player completely ignores everything she says. Fuck, if you want to lynch me just to show how objectively shit her associative tells and assumptions are then go ahead. I'm struggling to even care about this game which is why I'm sheeping beeboy. He's one of the only people I can see not confbiasing and making actual sense. If he's scum and I'm sheeping scum that's 100% the town's fault for being as utterly nonsensical and awful as they are right now.

I don't know how you guys can scum read RB here...

I know, that's why I asked Mokoto and Scully...

I still am leaning town-aligned on them, because if you are constantly on the receiving end of the discrediting, it might be harder to read them objectively.

[iraonavp]

Yeah and how convenient that he claimed the exact same (2-shot) limitation i did have, if there's scum in tevinter, then ABR is definitively scum getting info from them.

Are the x-shots supposed to be different?
Mine's also 2-shot, I just assumed everyone's was so that no one person could be warden forever.

p-edit: Ninja'd, but whatever.

This is fake, you are trying to appear ignorant of this to make yourself look town-aligned.

You said "but whatever", because you know that three other people already saying your point makes posting it pointless if you are town-aligned, but you still want to post it because your objective is to make yourself look town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

@Ira

Tbh I do that as well when Ninjad, I think this has more to do with your character

Well, Radical Rat's character is scum-aligned...

[iraonavp]

1. You claimed Cop + Mage.
2. No other Mage is an investigative.
3. All the investigatives claimed so far are not mages.

From that, it's pretty logical to assume Cops aren't Mages and Mages aren't cops.

It's completely illogical, there are literally two cop claims right now...

[iraonavp]

Luna, ABR is just going to flail and complain the truth makes no sense. Let's just end this day already.

I don't think they'll be constructive at all but just attack me personally.

No, don't end the day, unvote!

I haven't even read yet, and even you acknowledge that PeregrineV scumslipped...

[iraonavp]

Luna, ABR is just going to flail and complain the truth makes no sense. Let's just end this day already.

I don't think they'll be constructive at all but just attack me personally.

No, don't end the day, unvote!

I haven't even read yet, and even you acknowledge that PeregrineV scumslipped...

No. That's not what I said like at all.

Extremely unlikely is notable. He also claimed it unprompted. It's worth analyzing. To call it a scumslip though is just inaccurate.

Okay, but you almost did...

Still, it doesn't make any sense to quick hammer when PeregrineV is lurking and not even posting in the thread!

PeregrineV clearly lied, there are no non-warden day abilities...

[iraonavp]

Tbh I would switch to pv cause his flip Will basically tell us Luna alignment and Luna alignment will tell us Titus alignment.


But I reeeeeally want Felmi dead

Wrong. PV could be scum buddying Luna.

I think that this is the case, because he wanted to preserve the illusion of the "masonry" that you were perpetuating and Luna Fox seems vaguely town-aligned to me at this point.

[iraonavp]

Even if we assume he lied, the question is why did he lie. What was the motivation?

To make himself look town-aligned...

[iraonavp]

Tbh I would switch to pv cause his flip Will basically tell us Luna alignment and Luna alignment will tell us Titus alignment.

Doesnt really work that way... well
PV flipping town confirms me as town 2 shot cop. But he flipping scum literally confirms nothing other that im not confirmed town.

He could flip town liar as well.

No, he wouldn't do that, it's ridiculous to lie to his neighbors if he was town-aligned.

yellowbaron, please vote PeregrineV, Titus doesn't matter if you don't think she is scum-aligned... You should focus on PeregrineV instead, who is obviously scum-aligned...

[iraonavp]

Tbh I would switch to pv cause his flip Will basically tell us Luna alignment and Luna alignment will tell us Titus alignment.


But I reeeeeally want Felmi dead

Wrong. PV could be scum buddying Luna.

I think that this is the case, because he wanted to preserve the illusion of the "masonry" that you were perpetuating and Luna Fox seems vaguely town-aligned to me at this point.

There was also other option talked in the nation chat, which is what i was told right after that, that he was reaction testing me, tho i still dunno if the motives were town or scum for that.

He said that he was "reaction testing" you, or someone else supposed that?

[iraonavp]

Well, it isn't a "reaction test" if he gave additional details, most likely.

The fact that he didn't make a more considered attempt to decide when to use it also lends itself to the possibility that he just made it up on the spot.

[iraonavp]

1072 was pretty scummy and RR's voting patterns suck a lot right now.

Which part exactly, the vote on RM seems like just being new, the warden vote seems sensible and the whole thing about YB sorta was just a gut feeling, which people are allowed to have.

941 was a half jokes post and scum take everything seriously especially noob scum.

Actually, I don't think he really took it seriously, but he is trying to appear innocent and hide behind WIFOM.

[iraonavp]

this game is becoming painful to read

Please post using at least one capital letter per post, it's hard to tell if you are scum-aligned or not.

[iraonavp]

this game is becoming painful to read

I haven't actually done my lynch priority yet

All these townreading earlier has cramped my style

Masq > YB > ABR > Iraon > Vedith

Okay, that's one of the worst possible lists you could make except for Vedith...

[iraonavp]

I haven't actually done my lynch priority yet

All these townreading earlier has cramped my style

Masq > YB > ABR > Iraon > Vedith

Okay, that's one of the worst possible lists you could make except for Vedith...

[iraonavp]

Hello, I am 20 pages behind, and not particularly motivated to read them.

If anything important happened, I will, but if it was just arguing over the same stuff, I'll just focus on the future.

So, let me know if there was anything I should go back for.

This is scum.

He is basically Sonic the Hedgehog at this point...

[iraonavp]

Forgive me beeboy for not posting for 9 hours even though other people have like 4 posts but they're fine

This is scum, in the same way like how Radical Rat is misinterpreting or misrepresenting my accusation in 2227.

[iraonavp]

Forgive me

beeboy for not posting for 9 hours even though other people have like 4 posts but they're fine

What's your warden ability?

Forgive me

, but it's one I find to be rather threatening to the scum, and would rather not say.

They're both begging for forgiveness!

[iraonavp]

What's your warden ability?

Forgive me, but it's one I find to be rather threatening to the scum, and would rather not say.

Anyway, this is so awfully worded and scum-aligned...

He acted all shocked that there was a wagon on him, then he refused to claim.

[iraonavp]

Forgive me

beeboy for not posting for 9 hours even though other people have like 4 posts but they're fine

What's your warden ability?

Forgive me

, but it's one I find to be rather threatening to the scum, and would rather not say.

They're both begging for forgiveness!

This is significant, both of those posts are extremely scum-aligned...

[iraonavp]

once you vote FU*

I decided FU is potentially scum and Dunnstral is potentially town.

Dunnstral is not town-aligned, he is lurking and intimidated by the arguing spam of Mokoto and Scully and yellowbaron to post.

Basically you made a mistake in reading him as town-aligned for a single fake emotion post, which he can easily manufacture yet looks distinctly different from when he is town-aligned...

[iraonavp]

Agreed Beeboy. I just get so frustrated at the personal insults that I crack from time to time. There's only so much one can take of being called stupid/dumb/ignorable/whatever the insult of the day is without actual substance being discussed that occasionally I do crack. I'm usually good about taking them but ones to my personal intelligence sting. I can take off the wall, different, unique, etc.

For what it's worth, you're one of the players I've come to really respect in my time here on MafiaScum

I guess that's one way to get them one your side...

[iraonavp]

Agreed Beeboy. I just get so frustrated at the personal insults that I crack from time to time. There's only so much one can take of being called stupid/dumb/ignorable/whatever the insult of the day is without actual substance being discussed that occasionally I do crack. I'm usually good about taking them but ones to my personal intelligence sting. I can take off the wall, different, unique, etc.

For what it's worth, you're one of the players I've come to really respect in my time here on MafiaScum

I guess that's one way to get them on your side...

[iraonavp]

Don't tell Luna but I'm lurking in the hood. SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!

What is this supposed to mean? Why would you even post this?

I don't trust you very much lately, NEROCAIN.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Radical Rat

We really should be lynching PeregrineV, he is confirmed as scum-aligned...

Oh well.

[iraonavp]

That was an awful lynch...

VOTE: PeregrineV

[iraonavp]

No it's not, PeregrineV is confirmed as scum-aligned!

[iraonavp]

Vote: ABR

What was your result?

[iraonavp]

@iraonavp

It's best not to out any hypothetical results (if any) at start of day but let things progress naturally. Then spring them once the target has spoken and has been spoken about, at the earliest.

What are your thoughts on ABR?

VOTE: ABR

I'm voting here or Masq whichever has more.

@beeboy, questions like the one you just asked do not help town.

I think ABR is town-aligned...

[iraonavp]

I'm not sure why is nobody voting PeregrineV. He is basically confirmed as scum-aligned!

[iraonavp]

Basically, Mokoto and Scully is trying to get everyone to vote ABR even though they're town-aligned, for dubious "reaction" reasons.

[iraonavp]

Dunnstral is still very scum-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Why is abr town iraonvp?

I don't know, he just seems town-aligned to me.

[iraonavp]

No, because he claimed an impossible role!

[iraonavp]

See, Dunnstral is scum-aligned!

[iraonavp]

Yeah, you're just trying to give him an out. Nobody in the game has any ability other than "vote", that is certain by now.

[iraonavp]

Yeah, you're just trying to give him an out. Nobody in the game has any ability other than "vote", that is certain by now.

Then how come you still think ABR is town? It's pretty obvious he lied in his cc. There are no Mage cops.

What?

Why are there no mage cops? Because you said? That is your entire argument.

[iraonavp]

If you think there are no mage cops, there are definitely no non-warden abilities, that's for sure.

[iraonavp]

Yeah, you're just trying to give him an out. Nobody in the game has any ability other than "vote", that is certain by now.

Then how come you still think ABR is town? It's pretty obvious he lied in his cc. There are no Mage cops.

All two of them, yes.

And every one of the players who have claimed so far don't have a non-warden ability, except PeregrineV.

[iraonavp]

That doesn't mean anything.

Also, Dunnstral is voting ABR and he is clearly scum-aligned because of how muted and dishonest he is...

[iraonavp]

Also, I think ABR could be fakeclaiming and town-aligned, and Mokoto and Scully also seemed to imply that they thought this earlier.

[iraonavp]

That doesn't mean anything.

Also, Dunnstral is voting ABR and he is clearly scum-aligned because of how muted and dishonest he is...

Can I see your last reads? Trying to determine if I should defenstrate you or give you a hug.

VOTE: ABR

Okay, I will try.

Town-aligned - Foxbeebirdboy, Shiro, yellowbaron
Less town-aligned - Bieber Brothers, Motoko and Scully, SirCakez, Luna Fox, Masquerade, Frizzy Cola, shaddowez, Albert B. Rampage
Null-aligned - 100 Percent Ego, Yume, randomidget
Less scum-aligned - Vedith
Scum-aligned - Dunnstral, PeregrineV, Radical Rat

[iraonavp]

Titus if this lynch goes through and ABR is town I am going to vote you for the rest of the game regardless of what I think your alignment is btw.

That is probably a bad idea.

[iraonavp]

No, because he claimed an impossible role!

?

Did you read the thread?

[iraonavp]

It is 100% impossible for PeregrineV to be 2-shot day lie detector. Because he is not warden and there are only warden abilities.

[iraonavp]

That doesn't mean anything.

Also, Dunnstral is voting ABR and he is clearly scum-aligned because of how muted and dishonest he is...

Can I see your last reads? Trying to determine if I should defenstrate you or give you a hug.

VOTE: ABR

Okay, I will try.

Town-aligned - Foxbeebirdboy, Shiro, yellowbaron
Less town-aligned - Bieber Brothers, Motoko and Scully, SirCakez, Luna Fox, Masquerade, Frizzy Cola, shaddowez, Albert B. Rampage
Null-aligned - 100 Percent Ego, Yume, randomidget
Less scum-aligned - Vedith
Scum-aligned - Dunnstral, PeregrineV, Radical Rat

Suppose ABR scum and Tevinter town, what happens to your reads?

Then some of my reads are incorrect, obviously I don't think that everyone in your topic is town-aligned and I think ABR is scum-aligned.

This is a silly question that is very difficult to answer because that didn't happen and I doubt it will.

[iraonavp]

It is 100% impossible for PeregrineV to be 2-shot day lie detector. Because he is not warden and there are only warden abilities.

But he already said that he wasnt that, are you reading the thread?

What?

[iraonavp]

That doesn't mean anything.

Also, Dunnstral is voting ABR and he is clearly scum-aligned because of how muted and dishonest he is...

Can I see your last reads? Trying to determine if I should defenstrate you or give you a hug.

VOTE: ABR

Okay, I will try.

Town-aligned - Foxbeebirdboy, Shiro, yellowbaron
Less town-aligned - Bieber Brothers, Motoko and Scully, SirCakez, Luna Fox, Masquerade, Frizzy Cola, shaddowez, Albert B. Rampage
Null-aligned - 100 Percent Ego, Yume, randomidget
Less scum-aligned - Vedith
Scum-aligned - Dunnstral, PeregrineV, Radical Rat

Suppose ABR scum and Tevinter town, what happens to your reads?

Then some of my reads are incorrect, obviously I don't think that everyone in your topic is town-aligned and I don't think ABR is scum-aligned.

This is a silly question that is very difficult to answer because that didn't happen and I doubt it will.

I meant to say I don't think ABR is scum-aligned...

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Radical Rat

We really should be lynching PeregrineV, he is confirmed as scum-aligned...

Oh well.

????

How so?

Luna, ABR is just going to flail and complain the truth makes no sense. Let's just end this day already.

I don't think they'll be constructive at all but just attack me personally.

No, don't end the day, unvote!

I haven't even read yet, and even you acknowledge that PeregrineV scumslipped...

No. That's not what I said like at all.

Extremely unlikely is notable. He also claimed it unprompted. It's worth analyzing. To call it a scumslip though is just inaccurate.

Okay, but you almost did...

Still, it doesn't make any sense to quick hammer when PeregrineV is lurking and not even posting in the thread!

PeregrineV clearly lied, there are no non-warden day abilities...

Oh, I see.

LOL!!!!

No, this is the only thing he said, Luna Fox.

[iraonavp]

That doesn't mean anything.

Also, Dunnstral is voting ABR and he is clearly scum-aligned because of how muted and dishonest he is...

Can I see your last reads? Trying to determine if I should defenstrate you or give you a hug.

VOTE: ABR

Okay, I will try.

Town-aligned - Foxbeebirdboy, Shiro, yellowbaron
Less town-aligned - Bieber Brothers, Motoko and Scully, SirCakez, Luna Fox, Masquerade, Frizzy Cola, shaddowez, Albert B. Rampage
Null-aligned - 100 Percent Ego, Yume, randomidget
Less scum-aligned - Vedith
Scum-aligned - Dunnstral, PeregrineV, Radical Rat

Suppose ABR scum and Tevinter town, what happens to your reads?

Then some of my reads are incorrect, obviously I don't think that everyone in your topic is town-aligned and I think ABR is scum-aligned.

This is a silly question that is very difficult to answer because that didn't happen and I doubt it will.

Can you humor me?

No, it's impossible. My opinions would not change significantly.

[iraonavp]

Oh wait nvm he said that on Tevinter, i misremembered (it did happen after your accusation however)

What?

Okay, you have to paraphrase everything he said. He's obviously backtracking from his scumslip, and afraid to post it in the thread, only in the neighborhood who are deluded into thinking they are masons.

[iraonavp]

Also, I think ABR could be fakeclaiming and town-aligned

Yeah, you're just trying to give him an out.

You are just making snarky and scum-aligned quips, like Radical Rat did earlier.

[iraonavp]

That requires me trusting you. :/

^_^ Do I ever lie as town?

I don't have you as a townread though.

What if I told you I was a mason?

Masons drive me up the wall and routinely look like scum in my scumhunting. My belief of your claim would depend on your alleged partner.

But I thought you were a mason?

[iraonavp]

Also, I think ABR could be fakeclaiming and town-aligned

Yeah, you're just trying to give him an out.

Foxbeebirdboy, are you actually telling the truth?

[iraonavp]

Foxbeebirdboy, are you actually telling the truth?

[iraonavp]

I am pretty sure I am doing this wrong.
The land of Antiva is now mine!

Join: Antiva

Why would I lie about being a mason as scum here?

Are you lying about being a mason as town?

What?

[iraonavp]

Okay, I guess. I think PeregrineV could be scum-aligned still, but much less likely.

VOTE: Radical Rat

[iraonavp]

Foxbeebirdboy, are you actually telling the truth?

stop trying to give him an out

Stop trying to give Radical Rat an out by not voting him immediately.

[iraonavp]

Okay, I guess. I think PeregrineV could be scum-aligned still, but much less likely.

VOTE: Radical Rat

You should vote scum-aligned ABR

No, I still think ABR is town-aligned.

I have seen town-aligned players lie about their role before. I think he could have lied because he was so certain that you were scum-aligned. It makes even less sense for a scum-aligned player to do that.

[iraonavp]

He's not even a lie detector, though. You no longer think PV "backtracking" is suspicious?

Yeaaah Ira is scum

That is the entire remainder of the read. His play has been town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Like Ira can be lynched JUST FOR THAT

No, you're scum-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Okay, nevermind. SirCakez, you are just lost in the past. Now you should vote Radical Rat, ABR is probably town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Luna Fox, did you get a result on ABR of scum-aligned?

Is it possible for them to be both telling the truth? I believe Luna Fox over ABR, but I think they are both town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Okay. I honestly still think Dunnstral is scum-aligned, to be honest.

VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

[iraonavp]

You probably are going to accuse me of being scum-aligned now, which is just the most nonsensical thing because I never knew ABR's alignment, and Dunnstral is trying to mislynch and defame me constantly.

I think SirCakez is probably scum-aligned with ABR, because he saw what was going on with all the people of the neighborhood voting, and could work things out with knowledge of ABR's alignment. He had not expressed any previous scum-aligned read on ABR.

[iraonavp]

Random

Hi. You should have knowledge. We'd love to hear from you.

What does that mean?

[iraonavp]

It's not possible for Luna Fox to act as warden again tonight, anyway...

[iraonavp]

Oh, I didn't know it worked like that.

[iraonavp]

I voted you for warden today and yesterday...

[iraonavp]

Spoiler: Giant rant about this game most of you don't really need to read.

I have never suggested a policy lynch before, nor do I ever plan to again, but rb is literally making it impossible for me to read this game. Not as in town/scum read, as in summoning the motivation to actually move my eyes to the next word on the page.

I have a strong moral conviction against replacing out, and this is a really interesting set-up I don't want to abandon.

So fuck it. I don't care how powerful your role is late-game, or how role power even scales like that, I am tired of this.


And one last thing.
It isn't Titus rb. It's

you

. Titus is stubborn, yes, and may even be confbiasing as hard as you say. But this CONSTANT shit-flinging at her and random "Just kill me then" episodes are what make this so unbearable.

I apologize for all of that.
Anyway,
VOTE: rb

I'll move if I see a guilty.

Yeah, you already knew there was a guilty or why else would you say this. Radical Rat is basically Sonic the Hedgehog, trying to go too fast to appear town-aligned, but it's clearly fake...

[iraonavp]

Because you mentioned it at all. People very rarely mention that.

You are just nitpicking again.

[iraonavp]

I set the terms to change my vote.

That's NAI.

No, it's not at all!

It shows that you lied about reading the thread...

[iraonavp]

You know RR you keep saying things are "... Interesting."[sic]

Why don't you just say what you think they mean relative to people's alignments?

Because he's scum-aligned and doubtcasting...

These last few pages have reinforced to me that Radical Rat is scum-aligned, and Mokoto and Scully is town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

I could dayvig Scum and you'd still find a way to call it scummy, Ira.

Only because you are scum-aligned... That sounds like something you would do with a Sonic the Hedgehog avatar, actually...

[iraonavp]

Just clarifying I meant he had no activity since the guilty claim, not he's had no activity at all.

Talk about all the activity.

Why did you lie about your role?

[iraonavp]

@DGB/Shadowez, how did rb react in nation chat once he was made warden?

I didn't say anything about it because we thought it was better if Warden is only known after-the-fact.

Really though? You thought your bodyguard was somethign to hide when it was super suspicious for you to have gotten it?

And what did you say after the fact?

Okay, you're scum-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Dunnstral is making a fake and scum-aligned show of questioning rb when he is obviously a mason to start with!

[iraonavp]

Dunnstral posts less, and he is too serious so he cannot be town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

I don't even think they need to be cop scanned to be honest, I wouldn't expect a mason fakeclaim

[iraonavp]

ABR was trying to bus Dunnstral and Radical Rat.

Especially Dunnstral read ABR in an unnatural and scum-aligned retaliation when you are getting bussed and know your partner is scum-aligned.

[iraonavp]

rb is a mason and Dunnstral knows this, but he thinks pushing onto a brick wall will make him look like mislead town-aligned...

[iraonavp]

And then once rb flips scum we can get beescum and eventually iraonavp

[iraonavp]

Yeah, Dunnstral obviously doesn't believe this...

Maybe he is actually so opportunistic to try and go along with Mokoto and Scully's obscene paranoia!

[iraonavp]

Like his ever ypost is just an attempt to discredit me in teh reachiest ways possible

That isn't as bad as trying to lynch masons, both of which are obviously town-aligned independently by play!

[iraonavp]

ok, we can lynch ira first and cop check rb

No, we can lynch Radical Rat or you first...

Don't cop check the masons or Mokoto and Scully, both are terrible ideas... You should check Radical Rat or Dunnstral, Luna Fox.

Mokoto and Scully is especially town-aligned since ABR is scum-aligned.