Paint Mafia! - Game Over!

[Papa Zito]

harro I am game

[Papa Zito]

ok looking back a couple pages I see a bunch of Mario votes

Can somebody plz to explain these, I haven't read anything but the rules so I dunno what's going on.

[Papa Zito]

Where did I say active?

... he literally quoted it in your 1365.

The other game,

he was active

but kind of all over the place and it was hard to figure out his read progression on anything.

So if you could answer acryon's question that'd be gr8. If the dude is capable of being both active and lurky as scum how can you possibly use activity as an alignment indicator?

Also are there any non-meta reasons to vote this guy cuz meta sucks anyway?


Also also

@Spiffeh and Elbirn

why is this dude obvscum. Help a brother out. (I won't ask RC cuz he's on strike due to lack of Annie pics lol)

[Papa Zito]

Also I have no fucking clue if I'm voting someone rn cuz I guess votecounts are for chumps so UNVOTE: just in case?

[Papa Zito]

I have a really hard time typing your name and I dunno why.

My fingers just wanna go arcyon.

wtf fingers

[Papa Zito]

have you seen my bear tibbers tho

[Papa Zito]

Oh my god DBG is so bad and scummy and why haven't we lynched this yet!?!?

Like, read the ISO and tell me how any of these posts are town. I dare you!

VOTE: DGB

ok but what in those posts is scummy?

(hint: I haven't read them)

i don't think i want to lynch aristo quite as much as i want to lynch elbirn, mostly because it feels like the flow of wrongness is shifting toward aristo now

i can't have reads that agree with the majority otherwise i'm probably wrong

why do you wanna lynch elbirn?

last rc led majority hit scum.
just saying.
and we're lynching Maroi anyway.

NO ANNIE PICS

BE STRONG

[Papa Zito]

There's a lot of people going "X is scum vote plz" but nobody seems able to articulate why. That may be a hint to stop, wait a minute, fill my cup, put some liquor in it.

Can someone, anyone, give me a "well zito my good man, X is scum cuz of these excellent reasons: A, B, C"

just give me something to work with here

anything

ilu?

[Papa Zito]

Zito, I'll make am actual case for you. Just gimme a bit to wake up and stuff.

ilu

FTR I'm not looking for a Mastinesque quotestriped monstrosity. I just need something to help me understand where people's heads are at.

(I'm doing something new this game by deliberately not going back and reading stuff first b/c I theorize that'll give me a completely unbiased view of what ya'll are saying and therefore let me get way better reads at the outset)

[Papa Zito]

None of these are anything but blatant sheeping or come with any reasoning at all. All of them are potential scum votes. The Sky votes are the only ones that are alright, as they are the only instance of trying to sort the game. This is all dropped once RC joins.

I took a quick look. She does say this:

I try to be a team player and help build momentum then people whine that I am sheeping.

Do you not buy this explanation that she's attempting to increase pressure?

All of his other posts are one-off statements which do not progress the game or feign stupidity. I can quote some of the worse ones for you if you like.
This slot has done no effort to sort things and has no original votes or reads. If they do, they haven't even pretended to explain them.

She did mention being sick a few times:

DGB give me more please

I have been nauseous all day, can you give me the Cliff's Notes?

Sorry guys I have a hellish flu, what's with the Davsto wagon now?

Also DGB can you do things that make me townread you?

I'll try

I am nauseated, my attention span is really short

Do you not buy this as an explanation for her lack of presence?

[Papa Zito]

And today is colonoscopy prep day! I won't stray far from the ceramic throne.

[Papa Zito]

Oh shit it's Davsto. I'm probably going to wagon you at some point this is gr8.

A) No, I don't. If they were merely sheeping occasionally, sure. But she seems to be sheeping for the sake of sheeping and floating through. This isn't adding a vote to add pressure. There is no gain noted by DGB. She just wagons willy nilly.

So it looks like she was super early on the West9 wagon based on the votecount, and she doesn't seem inclined to join this Mario one. Wouldn't that signal she's not just merely sheeping votes?

Also I'm not sure the "no gain" bit is true - it looks like she jumped onto the BBT wagon super early and that was a scumflip. No?

B) To a certain extent, yes. But being nauseated does not preclude someone from adding a line that says "why I made this read/vote is ___."
That simple effort is all it takes and is what I would expect from a town mindset. This is absent here.[/quote]
Well I dunno if anyone asked the question.

@DGB:

Why did you vote West9?


pedit: holy avalanche of posts batman

[Papa Zito]

and I fucked up the quote, rip me

[Papa Zito]

ESPECIALLY AFTER HOW OBVIOUSLY TOWN I WAS ON DAY 1

HOLY SHIT

Every time you say this I like it less.
Sorry.

+1

[Papa Zito]

Gah zito your tags messed up my tags

I KNOW I KNOW SORRY

btw your avatar scares the shit out of me

DGB was on the BBT wagon fairly early. But then right before he got lynched, she quoted him and said "this is a townie sentiment." but made no argument against his lynch/didn't try to push us off the wagon/didn't unvote.

I'm p sure this is your post.

That is weird. I think it'd be shadier if he'd flipped town tho.

@DGB

what's up with this?

[Papa Zito]

Oh shit it's Davsto. I'm probably going to wagon you at some point this is gr8.

;-;

The world always needs more dead Davstos.

[Papa Zito]

holy shit this game hit Arriba Mode

why does my avatar scare you

I dunno it's just creepy O__O

Can you quote these posts where he did those things

stop making my words faster than I can :/

She said herself she was sheeping with the BBT vote, as I said. She makes no case and has no read, other than that one late "townpost" comment, and thus no accountability on any wagon.

True. I guess I'm asking about it given the results. Like, if she were scum with BBT why didn't she slide off the wagon at that point, esp given lack of accountability etc

[Papa Zito]

Arrite that's fair. I have some Qs out, let's see what shakes

VOTE: Anxiety Attack

[Papa Zito]

Arrite that's fair. I have some Qs out, let's see what shakes

VOTE: Anxiety Attack

AA raises a good point.
What makes the slot scummy and vote worthy?

What good point?

[Papa Zito]

DGB was on the BBT wagon fairly early. But then right before he got lynched, she quoted him and said "this is a townie sentiment." but made no argument against his lynch/didn't try to push us off the wagon/didn't unvote.

That is weird. I think it'd be shadier if he'd flipped town tho.

Maybe not. There was a counterwagon (on you, actually!) that grew really fast was pretty strong right up until BBT died.

Who was driving that counterwagon? Was it just BBT or did he have help?

[Papa Zito]

Here you go RC.
Sorry to keep you waiting.

wtf is this shit

Can we just lynch hiplop?

Why are you saying so many words about Mario but dropping Hiplop votes when there's a perfectly viable Mario wagon?

I can neighborize one player during the day for one cycle (from night of neighborization until the end of the next day). During this cycle they also become ascetic. This would be super OP as scum because I could just neighborize someone and kill them for free that night.

I had to look up what Ascetic means.

So you're neighborized with somebody right now?

[Papa Zito]

don't knock it it's great

[Papa Zito]

VOTE: mario

i promsie ill play well soon

VOTE: aristophanes

good point marq

...

Spiffeh I'll join you on this today.

[Papa Zito]

Or tomorrow I guess.

I'm just sayin.

[Papa Zito]

uh

that push makes 1000% sense

if it was a push amplifier it would go to 12

[Papa Zito]

lord have mercy

[Papa Zito]

pisskop
pisskop


who be scums?

[Papa Zito]

I'm not

it's in italics

[Papa Zito]

so greaf

[Papa Zito]

Ok I think I'm caught up again.

I can confirm we were neighborized N1 and it lasted until N2.

So as of right now you're not in the neighborhood anymore right? It's just DGB in there?

[Papa Zito]

^ that seems prudent

[Papa Zito]

There's a wifom wormhole there if you wanna start guessing at possible motivations but vetting the guy that's directing our actions as best we can doesn't seem like a bad idea to me.

VOTE: Elbirn

[Papa Zito]

By that logic, what's the point of colorflipping anyone?

[Papa Zito]

You can flip me if you want, I don't care.

Also I think this "blue mixes into red = purple" theory is rather dangerous. I mean, couldn't that mean that scum painted some blue dude red and then it mixed the other way? Or, even simpler, maybe somebody's just purple for some reason?

[Papa Zito]

omg purple guy

[Papa Zito]

Ok I think I'm caught up again.

I can confirm we were neighborized N1 and it lasted until N2.

So as of right now you're not in the neighborhood anymore right? It's just DGB in there?

[Papa Zito]

^lol

Ok I think I'm caught up again.

I can confirm we were neighborized N1 and it lasted until N2.

So as of right now you're not in the neighborhood anymore right? It's just DGB in there?

Right, we were in the hood N1 and D2 and are no longer in the hood as of N2. DGB should be the only one in there with Spiffeh now.

~SW

Sorry to harp on this, I just wanna make sure I got the order of events correct. As soon as D2 ended you lost access right?

[Papa Zito]

jfc the pagetoppers

[Papa Zito]

VOTE: DGB

[Papa Zito]

also

v/la this weekend

[Papa Zito]

Doesn't the role specify this?

OK, Just had a talk with ika about this game. RC was heavily suspecting Spiffeh. Spiffeh's role could easily be a scum role. At this point Papa Zito hasn't done shit. So we want to color flip Papa Zito and lynch the shit out of Spiffeh today.

pedit: Cool, Then there are probs two scum left alive and two of them are purple today. Let's lynch one of them.

~SW

Yeah I haven't done shit because I don't have Magical Wizard Powers like the rest of you lot and by the time I replaced in that's basically all that was at work here. I mean clearly the game is well in hand here so I'm p happy just sheeping along until we get the win or something breaks down.

[Papa Zito]

You think the wet/dry paint thing is a scum role? There's no way.

[Papa Zito]

Oh. That I agree with sure.

Do you think it's worthwhile to rescan this group of 3 again to see if they turn dry?

[Papa Zito]

idc who we colorflip honestly but why lynch Firebringer?

[Papa Zito]

A) kill hiplop if enough people trust me

can you explain what this business is about plz

[Papa Zito]

no i dont have a guilty

VOTE: west9

hes just scum

why is he scum tho

[Papa Zito]

I don't think I like where this conversation is going.

[Papa Zito]

Can you please explain the hiplop thing.

someone

anyone

[Papa Zito]

See, West makes me not want to lynch him. But I know it is the only way.
I hate that it has come to this, buddy!

...........

this is gloaty as shit

[Papa Zito]

Any other contributions to offer, Zito?

umad

[Papa Zito]

If you're replacing out could you please stop posting here? TIA

[Papa Zito]

nvm you got banned lol

hey guys did you know this is a game thread

Anyway I feel like West is p clearly town here so I have 0 desire to vote him. The cool kids tell me that means I have to vote Ari but I'm not super stoked about that either. If someone could give me some actual yaknow mafia reasons for some of the shit we're doing that'd be a real humdinger.

[Papa Zito]

Yeah so none of that was mafia aka "this dude be scums" reasons. Which is what I asked for.

Anyway if this is all we're doing VOTE: Ari then.

[Papa Zito]

You have a voice too and are capable of reading and coming up with your own ideas.

I cannot do any of these things I am a platypus.

[Papa Zito]

Mineminemineimemineimeinemine

Cheetory cannot mod he is a seagull.

[Papa Zito]

please don't meta me based on AvF

aro is reminding me of AvF

did an iso dive on hiplop to see what the fuss was about and thought this was lol

[Papa Zito]

aristo u said your lynch would be helpful

What do you think he's gonna flip?

[Papa Zito]

Zito, why are you so unhelpful?

Also, in the AvF quotes, what was the point of it?

And did you find anything in your ISO dive that helped you in any way?

1. I'm a terrible player and a terrible person. When the revolution comes I'll be one of the first on the wall. I'm a drag on society and on fun parties.
2. I literally gave the point when I posted it. THIS SHIT KEEPS HAPPENING A;SLDKFJ AS;LDKFJ ALKFJ
3. I need to do it again but with the mod iso side-by-side.

hth

[Papa Zito]

Just like a man overdosing on viagra, this thread has died hard.

Did you know Die Hard is a Christmas movie?

Weird right?


I'll switch at deadline if necessary but I still maintain that West9's play today is superduper town.

[Papa Zito]

Color flip is officially useless. Scum can be blue, town can be purple, we should ignore it and just play mafia at this point

thank fuck

Yeah I don't care who we flip. VOTE: hiplop or w/e

[Papa Zito]

Um... are yall colorblind or something??? Acryon's picture was definitely blue--at least much more so than Elbirn's or RC's, and neither of them flipped purple.

I missed it too until someone pointed out the top bit was purple. I just saw "you're a dude and you're blue" and I was like wut.

[Papa Zito]

hawt

[Papa Zito]

wow rude

[Papa Zito]

yay

[Papa Zito]

Yeah now that we've gotten past Fun Powers Phase I need to actually start reading things. I'll start with finishing that hiplop contextual read then move on from there.

[Papa Zito]

VOTE: bbt

I mentioned it earlier but i honestly cant remember if I'm on the wagon or not

hiplop can you explain this post for me

[Papa Zito]

i assume i thought bbt was scum and thought i voted him

well

When you said "I mentioned it earlier" what were you referring to?

[Papa Zito]

Does anyone have an opinion on anyone?

^lol

But to answer your question, now that we've moved outside the Mechanics-That-Zito-Has-No-Influence-On Phase, I am now attempting to form opinions on people. I keep seeing hiplop's name tossed around so I'm starting there to see what the fuss is about. I did my due diligence reading here so now it's question time.

[Papa Zito]

Why hadn't you read/sorted the thread a while ago? You aren't a new sub by any means.

Why is the prevalence of Hiplop's name something that leads to a scum lean?

1. I already answered this. When I subbed in the game was pure mechanics.
2. I never mentioned a hiplop read.

[Papa Zito]

No worries.

In the interests of transparency, since I totally get that my lack of contribution to date makes me basically unreadable - Enough people have said his name (and we have an actual vote now) that I'm anticipating a wagon of some sort to form, especially given the malaise that we seem to be experiencing atm. So my iso dive and subsequent questions are gonna serve 2 purposes, one to get a solid read on an apparently controversial slot and two to evaluate how others are approaching said slot.

FWIW I have a few of townreads based on how mechanics have played out and how some players are attempting to solve the game but I'm not sure how valuable it is to share those rn.

[Papa Zito]

I would like to hear them.

Hmm. Why?

[Papa Zito]

To quote marquis.. ~reasons~

Not terribly convincing.

---

VOTE: spiffeh

Ok I'd love to hear the reason behind this.

Also

i assume i thought bbt was scum and thought i voted him

well

When you said "I mentioned it earlier" what were you referring to?

[Papa Zito]

Are you not going to say unless I give a reason?

What benefits do you see.

[Papa Zito]

zito, why are you focussing on something from so long ago

Are you implying it doesn't matter?

cuz if it doesn't matter what's the harm in answering :3

[Papa Zito]

zito, why are you focussing on something from so long ago

Are you implying it doesn't matter?

cuz if it doesn't matter what's the harm in answering :3

I literally can't rememberis the issue

:/ Ok.

you know what? fuck it

lets get him spiff
VOTE: bbt

Prior to this post you were quite emphatic that Davsto was scum. What prompted this move?

[Papa Zito]

Can you explain:

1. Why you aren't town-reading him from a play perspective; and
2. How his role works in a scum context


TIA

[Papa Zito]

I'm so lost wtf just happened

[Papa Zito]

Are you still not going to give me a good reason to do so?

[Papa Zito]

Uh. I'm not claiming shit. Go play in traffic with that nonsense.

[Papa Zito]

XD

[Papa Zito]

Zito has effectively scumclaimed

I've done no such thing. I've called her "guilty" bs.

[Papa Zito]

#winning