Three-Pronged Trouser God Mafia GAME OVER- Happy Ending?

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I'm in a crappy mood and don't feel like mafia, maybe after pub quiz.

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I'm catching up everywhere this weekend. If I don't get caught up here tonight, I promise I will tomorrow as I have an abnormally relatively free Sunday.

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I'm catching up everywhere this weekend. If I don't get caught up here tonight, I promise I will tomorrow as I have an abnormally relatively free Sunday.

Is this actually nacho, or is this Tammy again?

why did it take so long for you guys to show up, and if it's Tammy, where is Nacho?

Erm mara?

I feel like you know the answer to this question? This is Tammy. I'm technically just getting off of v/la. I only came home early due to an emergency with my cat and have had a pretty terrible week. Nacho just got over being sick and then was very busy. But you know all of this.

Just replying to that post?

Yes, why?

this is abnormal behavior from them, and I want to know why it's happening?

I was also on my phone, and not really reading up on the rest of the game so!

???

Survey says if you look at the past couple weeks of site activity for both heads you'll find we've been busy and hardly able to keep up.

But again, you know this.

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Anyway, I'm commencing catching up now. I'll try not to spam post while going through it but can't promise anything.

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I apologize for my lack of innuendo or for the lack of awesome innuendo in my posts ahead of time :/ Nacho is better at this than me.
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As of page five:

Gorkington has me feeling pretty satisfied with over soul a close runner. I'm gonna have to strap down nacho and have him watch a biewing of prof emotion but I think they're somewhat satisfactory as well. I like maras insistence that nacho will call her town, what I don't like is recent Sandra dee dow-eyed pretenses at not having any idea why we haven't been involved yet.

I do like their push on tip though. Did you guys know that tip has a town tell? I need to ask if nacho knows it but in pretty sure Mara is one who does. As far as I remember any time he hasn't dropped that tell, he's been calling the cops on every couple trying to have a go at make out point. Depnding on how things go from here, I just might be inclined to help this faux Irishman auto-asphyxiate himself.

Oh I had another read or two but trying to make this dirty got me distracted. I'll probably remember it please hold.

Oh edit wait I remember. I don't know what to think about zzzx. He's overprinting early game like he's watching a stripper through a peep hole for the first time. I'm not sure what to think about him when he's or luring.

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*when he's not lurking.

Stupid autocorrect!

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*she moans*

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Page ten still feeling all the feels warm aroused.

I doubt very seriously either head will vote Titus this day phase. She looks townish and is easier to read as the days go on. Oh Titus before just dismissing Mara on her tip read because of wariness on the 100% read tell, maybe inquire on it? TiP has some special tells to the people who know how to read him well, and I'm inclined to think Mara knows what she's talking about here unless nacho or I see something to say otherwise.

Not sure what to think about the wguerts replace out, kinda feeling an abr thing here but we'll see.

Oh I do not like saint.

I might only make it a little further, I have to be up in a few hours.

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*she moans

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Wait when did this even start

* twitch*

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btw in case it wasn't clear at the start we're a miller

W hat kid of mile r?

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Page fifteen:

Thinking the Sakura hydra is probably town, will ask for nacho backup in that.

I don't understand prof emo's problem with the saint wagon.

Still willing to help out the tip wagon though!

Voided is feeling somewhat town too.

Do t know why people are reading flubbed town though.

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Oh I'm also not liking the metal sonic hydra or pisskop.

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I hate Gork's recent posting. He's subtly trying to push MoF as scum with no basis for doing so.

no he isnt

unless you meant TIP

~Wis

I agree with this post but still think Gorkington is currently the most aggressive scum hunter in the game

TIP wagon is bullshit but I can see someone think it's the least bullshit wagon available right now

Why is the tip wagon bullshit?

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I'm in a crappy mood and don't feel like mafia, maybe after pub quiz.

Can you donate your vote to Saint for the time being? :3

Probably going to go on tip unless something awesome changes in the next 15 pages.

You're not even voting saint though.

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VOTE: oversoul

You're bad at this

Seconded. OS is obvtown. You take take five minutes to compare this with We the Purple II and Signs and Void to know OS is town.

I love that you are starting to embrace and understand meta.

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Oh there's a wagon on me cool

...Not sure if I should read as flippant town or trying-to-play-cool scum.

This is a scum post
Fence-sitting etc

I find that when scum don't know how to scumhunt they rely on stupid tells like this.

What's the etc refer to because fence-sit pretty much covers it. (And town are never unsure how to read a cheeky post >_>)

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At 20 not much has changed but that's probably because mostly the same people are posting.

I need sleep. I might try to get through at least another five pages though.

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*she moans*

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We are

TOWN

. and I am now commencing to go balls deep into this game, prepare your bodies.

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Well he's faked a PR, dropped it and insta claimed when a wagon started on him and is now lurking.

That doesn't look town to me.

If he starts posting properly and looks town i'll have an easier time believing the claim.

quit being so formal, Xtoxm. Cut loose. Get a little crazy.

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because you are scum

imperium is tammy and nacho

~Wis

Vote: White Narcissus

I bet Tammy 20 bucks you would push the sonic slot of you were scum this game, btw.

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Vote: TheIrishPope

actually read some things now, time for the pain train to begin

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fuck your bullshit wagons elsewhere, let's lynch obvious scum now.

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I didn't read previous posts
I see a lot of people are new and we should lynch them first
Also my role PM mentions a chair

Huh?

(expired on 2015-08-21 12:00:00)
^i will join u then.

what the fuck is this

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Sorry ^ was supposed to refer to 872. I almost quoted TiP's ISO but then decided against it because I didn't want to taint a Tammy-hydra's ISO with such an atrocious pile of shit

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there are things i value more than pushing a slot thats likely to be scum who isnt going to respond to pressure.
things that i want four days to try and accomplish first.

There are things you value more than lynching scum? Like what?

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i want more time to sort the shitty end of this playerlist, dont you?

There's no reason I can't sort a playerlist while I'm lynching scum.

And yeah yeah yeah I'm mostly going to push this lynch through on rhetoric but let's not pretend like this case doesn't write itself

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Like if you really really really need me to start going through his meta so you can lynch a lurking scum with a clear conscience then fine but I'm pushing where I am for good reason

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Why TIP? He seems like an easy lynch Nacho.

he is an easy lynch
he's a refreshingly easy lynch.

is this a... bad thing...?

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Not when their buddies are playing like absolute shit.

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Oh and if you really want to break out that argument I can show you a montage of scum who rolled over and died. Many of them I bussed! Many of them were bussed by their partners!

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You don't get to start the game with a free scumflip very often, but when you do, you cash that check fucking immediately. And then the real game begins.

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oh great wisdom to the rescue

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Hey wisdom is tip town y/n?

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Because there is absolutely no way in hell I'm letting you stand in the way of this scumlynch.

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Like, no way in fucking hell. I will kick, scream, yell, spam, and. drown your ass out if I have to.

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i dont know what he is, there's no basis to call him scum though

Isn't this literally what you said about Xtoxm last game?

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Is it maybe possible that some people can develop strong and good reads based on less content than you can?

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nacho.
make a case.
instead of shouting at wisdom.
ill like you if you do.

I'm pretty cocksure about this lynch.
I don't mind making a case somewhat soon (or maybe I'll make Tammy do it), but if we scratch your back, we're hoping for some backscratching in return.

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There's also a "just the tip" response to your fears of a hardpush but I can't piece it together right now, apologies to all parties involved except for tip.

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Hope to catch up at work

Hope to catch up at work in bed.

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nacho, could i also get your thoughts on shos's weird waffle on me?
i would appreciate some intelligent commentary on that.

Sure!
Will do so when I'm feeling more intelligent.

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Public reminder that just because a lynch is easy doesn't mean a lynch is bad

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I don't know why I have to remind everyone of this but here's your friendly reminder anyways

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I don't like TiP's reaction to the wagon on him. As town, he has a tendency to complain/push back on wagons more than when he's scum because he doesn't really know how to respond as scum. I find it highly unlikely the only thing he has to say about votes forming on him is "yeah I don't like that one guy who said my scum tell was bad".

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I also don't like how he treated the Voided push. Picking out that one post that said "not sure whether this is scum or town" and calling it scum based on fencesitting is bad because 1) the tell itself is shitty, 2) that's not the only place someone has expressed being unsure about something, 3) the confidence level TiP expressed based on one phrase is seriously off, and 4) having that confidence level in a read that persisted for three days and then not putting a vote down on that suspect doesn't make sense coming from town.

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I'd expect better then nothing but he isn't the only player providing low to little content.

Who are the others?

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Ika hydra is a great vote.

ActionDan normally is a low activity poster and actually hasn't done anything yet (TiP is not this low activity normally and he additionally has had the chance to respond to a wagon/is pushing a scum read).

Fresh has been V/LA.

Loran hasn't really done anything but his ISO doesn't make my dick hurt.

Can you see why I would vote TiP over most of these?

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I could also talk about his egotism ("if I should read" reads as if the comment was directed at him), his dismissive attitude towards the post (ellipsis at the beginning), and his buzzword usage (flippant and tryingtoplaycool).

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How do you feel about Mara voting you?

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...Are you serious?

...You're serious...

Tammy, please tell me he's not serious.

yeah he is, I'm sorry

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I wouldn't say the tell is shitty because I do it all the time, but I actually agree with your other three points. Does it make me scum?

I mean clearly I believe it makes you likelier than usual to be scum or else I wouldn't be voting you.

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Talk to me, baby. Don't talk about me.

Don't make cases like that ever again because reading that made my future son's penis about three inches smaller.

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Didn't know she was voting me. Someone had actually told me that she left the site. This means she's scum, because Mara reads me correctly 100% of the time.

then um
why are you still voting Voided?

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Cuz Voided is maf too?

On one side, you have fencesitting as a tell (which is not a strong push for reasons you agree with).

On the other side, you have someone with a 100% record of reading you currently reading you wrong.

Which side seems stronger to you?

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Vote: Idiot Savant

Wisdom, you did not add anything helpful to the discussion surrounding TiP; stop creating useless noise.

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Because TIP's recent posts look town.

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maybe when he plays

when was the last time you played with him?

he just doesnt play nowadays

Whenever I push someone who hasn't played in a while based on meta, I familiarize myself with all recent meta they possess.

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its just a playstyle that looks scummy. He's not scum.

None of these things pointed out the personality pushes that normally make people find Voided to be scummy. they are just terrible observations.

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but it's come way to late IMO and I'm not sure if I actually buy him missing my reaching out to him, then consecutive push on him

How is there a "too late" for playing to a town meta?
Why isn't it plausible that he missed your play in the game? You didn't think he was paying attention, did you?

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Shos I process posts at double your speed, it seems.

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I also know that Nacho was posting elsewhere that wasn't here when the game started. I know that Nacho didn't seem to be as busy as you are and I know that alot of people seem to get trigger happy with a nachoscumread when he lurks/doesn't post as much and that I don't want another achiga thing to happen. I also know that I want to be able to play with nacho, and see how well I can read him, but I couldn't and cant do that if he wasn't posting.

I don't understand the point you're making at all.
I don't know why you think I've had a whole lot of time lately when you should know pretty intimately that I haven't had much time at all, considering the new job thing. I don't know why you would assume Tammy is more busy than I am when she's not doing anything this summer? But that's neither here nor there.

You also point out that I recently lurked in a game where I was town, there are many and plenty games where I lurked and was town, so not really understanding where that particular piece of "oh man nacho lurking is weird" is coming from.

Why don't you like my recent posts?

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Ive been saying forever that TIP is just apathetic and this proves that.

I don't really think anyone argued with this point because it really was not a significant point to make. Why did you bother with it?

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does no one else think tip voting the wrong person is a giant-motherfucking town tell? sure seems like it to us

Why?

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who is "we"? nobody ever listens to me

VOTE: tip

whatever

So... Why did you vote TIP here, exactly?

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who is "we"? nobody ever listens to me

VOTE: tip

whatever

So... Why did you vote TIP here, exactly?

And to sort of explain where I'm coming from with this question, it doesn't really make sense to me that you would throw up that big stink about TiP's apathy being alignment neutral and then just vote him when sonic asked you to: as town, I'd expect you to either A) stand up for yourself a bit more or B) not bothering defending tip as null when you didn't have a strong read there in the first place, but the way this unfolded looks like you're scum still trying to cash in on cred for white knighting TiP but speeding his lynch along before he can obvtown himself.

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I'm going to do something completely different

Vote:pisskop

List will have to wait.

I can't say I like or understand your direction, but go on.

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nacho i am standing alone against you, sakura, mara, and a bunch of other sheepers, defending someone who I don't even townread. i had enough of this bullshit.

Why is defending that TiP is apathetic and no one can read him because he hasn't posted enough such an important point to argue?

I understand getting tired of arguing your points. I don't understand voting tip.

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meanwhile ms is obvious scum but sure go ahead and lynch apathetic people and call that scumminess

Why is sonic scum?

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I think I'd probably be more sympathetic to your viewpoint of you didn't just burn 50 posts arguing a useless post and getting in people's way for what seems to be absolutely no reason. You'd be a much better player if you did a better job actually caring and understanding what people not named wisdom are doing :/

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Do you have reads, then?

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Like interesting ones?

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is it not complete horseshit that shos is trying to handwave his waffling with "oh man well my scumgame is good so maybe your's is too" as reasoning here?

I mean yes yes the reasoning is whacked out and makes absolutely no sense but I don't buy that he invented a lie like that to cover up for hydra dissonance.

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Yes and yes.

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Vote someone else then.

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Fuck this pisskop wagon.

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This pisskop wagon is about as appetizing as a bag of monkey dicks. I would love it if the wagons I came back to were at least more appetizing than monkey dicks.

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Too many people in this game to deal with
Really just waiting for people to cut the fat from the game
secretly hoping I am in the fat that is cut :p

You know, you can speed up the process by killing who I want to kill with me instead of just floating around doing whatever the hell you're doing.

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I think Masters of Fart is scum and they are currently voting pisskop. bleh, don't like the wagon already but I guess. TIP wagon is stalling

Saint should really be the lynch for today. Blatant rolefish on something that was obviously a joke.

VOTE: Pisskop

This wagon is also inevitably going to stall when it isn't endorsed by these ghost balls of mine :/

Let's do something better together!

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Farside town though
I don't think she was try to get my attention like that as scum, especially if I was already not suspecting her

As much as I'd like to say otherwise, chair erotica fiction is not indicative of alignment, despite quality. Thanks for playing though!

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This pisskop wagon is about as appetizing as a bag of monkey dicks. I would love it if the wagons I came back to were at least more appetizing than monkey dicks.

Why?
Don't give me you potty mouth.

Funny that you called me a potty mouth

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@MOD

V/LA: estimating 3 days.

Can I get some assurance that this is going to be among the first to die? Today, maybe?

Vote: Loran

Because he's um lurking and then declared V/LA? There are many things that cause a stirring in my loins and awaken my bloodlust. This is not one of them.

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Also, why are people unvoting IS after the flake? This only makes it more likely the slot is scum. Far more likely.

I didn't realize his inactivity was site wide due to a RL situation, although vezok hasn't exactly been putting in work so that might just be where our vote will stay. Maybe.

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Flubber's recent posts are lovely. Can't say the same for anyone else.

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I'll bring more than sweet nothings soon, I just gotta cash in on my daily one hour of sleep, wait a second

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Spiffeh, joining wagons I'm in the process of killing is bad for your health, something about being exposed so much to dead things.

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I promised Nacho I would get more current in this game yesterday so we could discuss reads and I fell asleep before I could get here. I have stuff to do today but I will work to get caught up.

Anyway, we did discuss the Ikahydra and he said that we might be wrong there because Ika wasn't necessarily lurking because he'd been absent due to a v/la for lack of internet connection, so. I'm a little concerned that while Ika was absent that Bellaphant wasn't posting either and wanted to talk to her, but then I realized that vezok replaced him. I've been pretty good at reading vezok in our past few games so hopefully I'll be able to get a read there.

Nacho said that TiP's reaction looked townish especially his confusion. I think Mara isn't voting there anymore either, so that's a good sign. There's a question I think I want to ask TiP though, if it's still relevant. This is more a reminder to myself to look for it and see if it is. I'm heading out to a meeting so I'm running out of time, so later.

I told him I was going to switch us to pisskop but he said he thought pisskop looked somewhat town, so I'll have to look back at what we're seeing differently if anything.

Anyway later.

UNVOTE:

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hi ckd!

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I don't like TiP's reaction to the wagon on him. As town, he has a tendency to complain/push back on wagons more than when he's scum because he doesn't really know how to respond as scum. I find it highly unlikely the only thing he has to say about votes forming on him is "yeah I don't like that one guy who said my scum tell was bad".

Man, this is so bad. That's not even true, I complain equally as scum and town. Also, I haven't played for like a year so things have changed.

How do you feel about Mara voting you?

Didn't know she was voting me. Someone had actually told me that she left the site. This means she's scum, because Mara reads me correctly 100% of the time.

TiP in the first post you say that you haven't played in a year so things have changed, but in the second post you say that Mara is scum because she correctly reads you 100% of the time.

Couple things:

If you haven't played in a while so things have changed, why can't Mara be town who hasn't recognized the changes?

And if part of the reason she is scum reading you is due to your response to her scum read, but you didn't realize who it was, couldn't that be part of the miscommunication?

And once you did realize who Mara was, why didn't you try to interact with her? Why instead just vote her and do absolutely nothing else?

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K I'm out after p25.

farside actually does do better flavor than the mod! MODS FIX THIS


/master

Spoiler:

the woman swings her hips over and over ing the rocking chair. Just missing the spot, just by a small margin. A tear runs down her face as frustrating and that denial of satisfaction is alluding her.
She feels something caress her cheek.
She gasp and opens her eyes.

To be continued

Someone needs to explain why they are not voting titus. She's basically showing her tits to everyone and flaunting herself but she has not pushed a single scum read hard and multiple times she has not explained her scum read in a sense that reads town.
Also I'll do my story if people vote titus

I'm not the greatest reader of Titus, but I haven't really seen any reason to vote her so far. As scum she's definitely not afraid to push someone and can even tunnel, so her not pushing someone yet doesn't really bother me. I've found that Titus as scum has an agenda that she pushes (and there's something else I think I've picked up on about Titus scum recently that I'll hold on to, at least until I'm caught up), and I'm not seeing that here yet.

Anyway this is a read I'll be discussing with Nacho probably tomorrow.

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oh hey we are two today!

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Page ten still feeling all the feels warm aroused.

I doubt very seriously either head will vote Titus this day phase. She looks townish and is easier to read as the days go on. Oh Titus before just dismissing Mara on her tip read because of wariness on the 100% read tell, maybe inquire on it? TiP has some special tells to the people who know how to read him well, and I'm inclined to think Mara knows what she's talking about here unless nacho or I see something to say otherwise.

Not sure what to think about the wguerts replace out, kinda feeling an abr thing here but we'll see.

Oh I do not like saint.

I might only make it a little further, I have to be up in a few hours.

Not sure where you get me being wary on TiP. I am voting TiP, encouraging votes on TiP by saying 100% confidence should be sheeped.

Oh I probably misunderstood something then.

How often do you, as town, think that things with 100% confidence should be sheeped?

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I dont find the fasces informative or scummy But Im mildly curious why they have rubber bands for roping.

:/

It was the best image I could find with two fasces, which is important because we are two and we are equal.

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I don't like TiP's reaction to the wagon on him. As town, he has a tendency to complain/push back on wagons more than when he's scum because he doesn't really know how to respond as scum. I find it highly unlikely the only thing he has to say about votes forming on him is "yeah I don't like that one guy who said my scum tell was bad".

Man, this is so bad. That's not even true, I complain equally as scum and town. Also, I haven't played for like a year so things have changed.

How do you feel about Mara voting you?

Didn't know she was voting me. Someone had actually told me that she left the site. This means she's scum, because Mara reads me correctly 100% of the time.

TiP in the first post you say that you haven't played in a year so things have changed, but in the second post you say that Mara is scum because she correctly reads you 100% of the time.

Couple things:

If you haven't played in a while so things have changed, why can't Mara be town who hasn't recognized the changes?

And if part of the reason she is scum reading you is due to your response to her scum read, but you didn't realize who it was, couldn't that be part of the miscommunication?

And once you did realize who Mara was, why didn't you try to interact with her? Why instead just vote her and do absolutely nothing else?

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MS hasn't done anything to improve their spot since their bullshit attempt to scumread Over soul.

Did them pointing out that you misunderstood do anything to your read of them?

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you're wrong to assume that emotion will be an big indicator of my play/alignment, and that each post will contain emotion. You're unlikely to get anything from me unless I get to the point where I'm stressed, and at that point I'm incoherent and can't think properly.

I'm not pushing anyone, but there isn't anyone worth pushing yet, and stating that I refuse to claim is a comment on the mass claim, clearly.

you're also wrong to assume that I will get anywhere early game, and you're completely overlooking that I am not a fan of rvs and constantly looks for a mean to get out which generally means doing something other people don't really expect, and doing things that I think scum could tag on.

such as what you're doing here

Pedit: TIP!

I forgot you werein this game. I hope to see improvements to your game, love

VOTE: TIP

You make me sad, my love.

I declare him scum off my experience of perfect record of reading him

But she did.

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Eh okay I'm exhausted and have a meeting in the morning so I must stop at page 48. If you guys could not make too many more pages before tomorrow that would be great. Nacho threatened a lashing for every page I'm behind; he's a very harsh master :/

I have town reads of varying strengths on Gorkington, Professor Emotion, Farside, Oversoul, Jaqen, White Narcissus and mayyyyyyybe Voidedmafia, pisskop, and saint.

I still don't like the metal sonic hydra and I think Nacho and I are going to have to fight about this one. Metal feels like he's puling the same crap he did in We The Purple in which the scum team decided to spam the hell out of the game in an attempt to both drown out town and create apathy, and I swore after that game I'd lynch the fuck out of anyone I thought was pulling that same type of tactic again.

Loranjogger can diescumdie. I'm not sure why he doesn't make Nacho's dick hurt unless Nacho's just drank too much whiskey and is feeling limp and numb. This is another one we'll have to discuss.

The argument between wisdom and mara concerning TiP was frustrating to read in part because wisdom kept reducing mara's whole argument and read to apathy. Unfortunately I'm reading wisdom as town but all he did was serve to discredit her with his constant apathy montra. The thing is when there are people that I know have a perfect or near perfect record of reading someone then I listen to what they have to say, and even if it doesn't make sense to you doesn't make it wrong.

I had something else but I'm going to pass out.

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Acknowledging prod.

We had a busy weekend. School starts tomorrow, so I probably won't be able to finish reading before then, maybe Tuesday. Nacho might be around before then though.

Also nacho thinks I'm wrong about metal sonic and that he's not just spam posting and is town so :/

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WHY

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SWEET JESUS WHY CANT I JUST LEAVE YOU ALL ALONE FOR A SINGLE FUCKING (heh) WEEKEND AND COME BACK TO A GAMESTATE THAT ISN'T UTTERLY FUCKED JUST ONE GOD DAMN TIME

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"maybbeeeee townleaning on pisskop"

Hi this a post from Tammy!
I'm happy and cheery and sunshine!

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"im not really sure what to think about vezo, might vote him"

Oh look another post from Tammy! I'm waffles too! I have a cat named waffles?

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"AHHHHHHHH WHAT IS THIS MADNESS WHY ARE PEOPLE VOTING FOR VEZO AND PISSKOP THIS GAMESTATE IS FUCKED AHHH AHHHHH IM NOT EVEN VOTING FOR SOMEONE AHHHHH."

oh
oh god
why does my heart feel so much... fear?
why are my pants so wet and why do they smell like popcorn?

oh god it must be nacho posting again D:

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But you're correct. It was wrong of me to not bring the first scum we will lynch to the guillotine immediately upon ending my hiatus, that was my mistake. I will rectify it shortly, pinkie promise.

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hydras that dont sign their posts are literally the worst.
youre also still not pushing anybody else so this outrage is still bullshit.

1) You are a smart kid. You know damn well when I'm posting and when Tammy is posting so don't scumplain about not being able to tell us apart. Suck up your pride and admit you had a slow moment.

2) I don't need a scum read to have two town reads. No one does.

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Oh dear! I hope you can hold your breath for a really really long time because I didn't have plans of doing jack fucking shit until I got some sleep :/

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Oh and if I oversleep I'm gonna keep calling these wagons shit and push a lynch on Loran because people want to lynch him and he's also not obviously bleedingly town

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VOTE: loranjogger

School started today; I'll probably not get back here until tomorrow.

Gorkington - In pointing out my uncertainties you got something wrong. I said that I thought I'd be able to get a read on Vezok as I've been pretty good reading him in the past, but I actually haven't gotten to where he started posting, so I didn't say I might vote him. Unless i was drunk and don't remember?

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He actually hasn't been awake all that long.

I don't know if he'll come back here today though.

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What a dumbshit pair of scumkills

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I'm pretty excited about Constantine and his cock rockets though

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I'm drunk cuz it's my birthday tomorrow. I won't be here until one of those two things changes.

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Prod dodge.

It's my birthday and I have a hang over. Be back tomorrow!

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Vote: Titus

Am incredibly behind, but this seems like a gimmie.

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The argument based on the meaning of the word "buddy" needs to stop.

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SAKURA IS CONFIRMED SCUM

The Metal Sonic opening up today by attacking the shit out of Wisdom/Sakura is consistent with getting a guilty result on them overnight, and it definitely seems like something they are unlikely to fake as scum or town.

We are also Catholic!

Hi!
I got a message saying that you were confirmed town last night!
Why send it to us?

@mod

I'm replacing out as well, sorry.[/b]

hf guys

I'm not completely sure that both heads would replace out because of a real guilty on them if they were scum, but then again, it would make sense for Sakura to replace out because she was frustrated with the crap case on her and for Wisdom to follow because of a RL situation, so not as town as I thought it would be when Tammy synopsized it for me.

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Scum have fakeclaims and town gf soundsnlike a funny joke to me

It also sounds like something Titus would fakeclaim as scum.

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And sure, scum do have fakeclaims. Not sure how said fakeclaims would be implemented, though.

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Gork, that is town me. Scum me would just argue you're guilty and troll. Yet I am actually scumhunting you trying to figure out whether town lying, bastard mod, or scum lying.

It's pretty obvious that scum-you couldn't get Gork lynched in a 1v1, so naturally, you'd find a way where you wouldn't have to get into that type of situation.

Fresh what makes the WN guilty more believable than the Titus guilty?

I want this as well. I think both guilties are faked.

While it's certainly possible, doubt it.

I dont understand why it is silly.

there is a result....it says guilty.

there is no reason to do anything else BUT lynch him...her. if she flips town...then we have an issue

guilties mean nothing in a game you know there are moderator lies.

~Wis

While this is something we would say in Capcom together, this isn't something that's actually true.

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Masters of Fart.
I don't have any problems with your guilty result. My problem is that there are THREE guilty result.
I'm not thinking that you're lying. I question either your PR's sanity or the game mechanics behind.
And of course, it's possible that your result is genuine. But how could I know that you're the one whom I should believe and not Gorkington or Oversoul?

Can you see?

Oversoul isn't actually claiming a guilty (he's a chair), so it's not hard to rule that one out.

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when titus is obviously town and she's getting lynched because of a guilty in a bastard game, yeah it is.

~Wis

pedit: @nacho

How is she obviously town?

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And yes, it makes sense for Godfather to act as a rolecop miller while Gravedigger acts as Watch/Tracker miller.
However, I don't think that Gorkington is lying about his result. And I don't think that Gorkington gets a guilty on a Godfather.

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why the fuck does scum-titus claim a godfather?

how have any of her reactions today been scum-titus?

~Wis

Why? In order to give her the knowledge that Gorkington is faking the guilty, hence her position today of "Gorkington is town and faking a guilty". I don't have a strong grasp on Titus-meta so you're going to have to show me the difference.

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she needed to claim godfather to have that knowledge? simply being town wouldn't provide it?

~Wis

Correct.

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If she was just plain town, then a bad guilty could be weird sanity.
As a godfather, the only way the result is a bad result is if mod is lying about roles, which again seems unlikely.

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So she made a claim full of bullshit so just she could push gork with more certainty when she could just push him anyway and blame sanities

yeah, I am not buying it. She could have made a million better claims and still push gork.

~Wis

So you're assuming direct moderator lies?

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Because I haven't seen a direct moderator lie in a bastard game since... Jebus's "Seemingly Normal Mafia"?

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I am currently going with her psychotrooper theory given mof also got a guilty on us and don't look like they're making it up either. If not a psychotrooper, then something else that reverses investigations.

~Wis

Psychotrooper doesn't reverse investigations, it makes all investigations insane. An insane cop result on a Godfather would still return "town".

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So?

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The only real reason why Titus would be town is due to a direct moderator lie.
If we mislynch Titus because of a direct moderator lie, welp.

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I am currently going with her psychotrooper theory given mof also got a guilty on us and don't look like they're making it up either. If not a psychotrooper, then something else that reverses investigations.

~Wis

Psychotrooper doesn't reverse investigations, it makes all investigations insane. An insane cop result on a Godfather would still return "town".

nope, psychotrooper does reverse them, i had it recently in a greater idea

~Wis

It's defined as making them insane.
Any other implementation is incorrect, but I'm probably just done arguing this now.

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Psychotrooper: All investigators with 'GUILTY/NOT GUILTY' results are Insane while you are still alive.

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no it's making them insane

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correct. insane is insane.

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but godfathers always return town, as titus described it.
it doesn't investigate like a townie.

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whatever.

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Gorkington, stop arguing with him.

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He's wrong, but he won't admit it, even after Titus flips scum. It's not like we need his vote for the lynch and it's not like his moonlogic is actually going to prevent a lynch from going through.

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"scum never fuck up"
-wiseguy2015

Stop.

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Let him burn out.

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And, this titus wagon is shit, and I am surprised nacho is endorsing it

Titus claimed a town Godfather. She claimed that it was

impossible

for Gork to have a guilty result, meaning she has the variant of Godfather where all investigative results return innocent, or she wouldn't have claimed that it was impossible. This means that 1) there is a direct moderator lie, or 2) there is a role that makes all investigative results return "guilty" or makes them all give the opposite of what they were going to do. This is NOT Psychotrooper; Psychotrooper, as it explicitly says on the wiki, makes all investigative results insane. It doesn't mean that they are the opposite of what they would be. It means, as it says, that all investigative results are insane. An insane investigation on a godfather that all investigative results return innocent would return "town", not the opposite of that because all investigative results will return innocent. Titus needs to get lynched because she has a guilty result on her and is claiming godfather. I believe Gork's claim. That means that Titus's role claim is impossible regardless of Gork sanity. I don't believe all investigations are completely true. I do believe that there aren't going to be moderator lies in this game.

There are a few really stupid counterarguments to these lines of thought.

1) Titus expressed emotion, and thus is town. This is an argument brought forward by Wisdom. The idea that Titus can't fake emotion as scum is insulting, particularly when Titus would have practice expressing frustration in response to ika policy lynching her in every game they played together. This argument is typically dumb unless a player has demonstrated a complete lack of ability in faking emotion or if the emotion demonstrated would be hard for scum to fake. Titus's expressed emotion in this game is not hard to fake.

2) There's a psychotrooper in the game. Even if you don't believe that psychotrooper works the way I've outlined, making this your FIRST ASSUMPTION is horrible. Psychotrooper roles are rare rare rare rare roles. Assuming that one exists because you have a nonsense townread on Titus and "this is a bastard game can't trust anything!!!" is frustrating and stupid.

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We are an even night amnesiac cop.
MoF seemed to have received a guilty.
We both think that the odd night amnesiac cop is insane/a scum frame job because both of you are individually very town.
Titus isn't.

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There's also the part about the godfather claim that makes Titus much more likely to be scum.
But you ignored that because PSYCHOTROOPER HOORAY

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1) Titus expressed emotion, and thus is town. This is an argument brought forward by Wisdom. The idea that Titus can't fake emotion as scum is insulting, particularly when Titus would have practice expressing frustration in response to ika policy lynching her in every game they played together. This argument is typically dumb unless a player has demonstrated a complete lack of ability in faking emotion or if the emotion demonstrated would be hard for scum to fake. Titus's expressed emotion in this game is not hard to fake.

this is a ridiculous oversimplification of what I'm saying. I am saying that in general, the way Titus has played, has reacted, and has handled everything is not what I have expected to see from scum-Titus. Her AtE in regards to her being lynched all the time is part of that, yes, but my argument was not just "titus expressed emotion therefore she is town".

~Wis

Whenever you say "everything this player does looks town", you aren't saying jack shit.

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Have you just made it your god given mission to piss me off in every game we play together?

[Imperium]

I don't know what the fuck it is about you but every game lately you manage to just push me a bit too far and I'm done.

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I did miss that.
I'm sorry.

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Yes.

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And if I were scum looking to stir some shit and could send guilty results to people, I would send a guilty result on Wisdom to Metal Sonic.

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so.

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[quote="In post 2764, White Narcissus"][/quote]
Tammy had a thought that they could send fake investigations while we were actually sane.
So they wouldn't actually be amnesiac cops, but they'd look like one.

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Titus said investigations on her come up negative, we still don't know what negative referes to?

~Sakura

It's weird to me that either UT or T-Bone or Kuribo would use "negative" instead of guilty/not guilty.
I still want to lynch Titus because I don't think Psychotrooper is likely and I think if there's a fake investigative role, there's only one as opposed to two.

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i dont really see the point of scum being a cop in the first place though, unless multiball

~Wis

yeah exactly
hence fake scum investigations and not a scum cop

[Imperium]

Saint - Were you the one in the neighborhood with Pisskop?

Who was the third claimed guilty? We've got MoF on WN and Gork on Titus, but wasn't there a third or was that an assumption that was never true?

(Oh and to answer a question from a long time ago - Voided our inaugural hydra game was your BB HOH game.)

I think Nacho hit all the things we wanted to talk about, but I'm trying to make sense of a few things.

pedit: Who was it that claimed miller again?

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Oh TiP is being replaced. Mara - Where did your read on him end up?

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Imperium, can we buddy up tonight?

To form the Sogliano Cavour Sex Society?
Of course!

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DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS

also cocks

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sakura you were fine

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but i have a special present for wisdom

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of the "hey buddy how does it feel to eat shit" variety

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also titus couldn't obvtown harder and you're all stupid if you're not seeing it

~Wis

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mara my hopes rest with you. You're probably the only one who saw Titus was town. Try not to let scum continue running the town. I will probably die one way or another because "omg guilty", so do what you can.

~Wis

[Imperium]

i'm assuming you received another guilty on WN today?

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Ok. So a guy who always investigates guilty is on the scum team? That sounds like a weakness to the scum team. I honestly don't know what to make of Titus flip because the write-up gives me thoughts that she could have been on either side town or scum. I say that solely on my experience with one of the mods AND the fact that the wrong place wrong time modifier from greater idea mafia is attached to a townie.

@fart, Jaqen said something about a vig. Wasn't that the gunned down one?

Do you have commune aligned in your role pm?

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oh hey shit

unvote

Ummmm

METAL SONIC

read our PMs

?????????????????????????????????????????????????

8====D?

?

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guys

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titus flipped red
townies flip green

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pls don't be dumb

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Titus was scum. Why is this even a conversation.

This.

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I messed up the quote above. The first sentence is supposed to be in it. Yes I am town are commune but the whole flip and write-up says Titus scum. But dat role tho

Death miller?

~Sakura

Death miller wouldn't flip miller, they'd just flip scum.

Besides, mafia millers are a thing, especially in bastard/theme/experimental games.

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VOTE: saint

[Imperium]

Post 1606

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whoever replaces into the TiP slot is 100% town, btw

We received Prof Emotion's prayer last night that prayed for his alignment to be known and Trouser informed us he was a loyal member of the commune

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sakura titus was scum

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Imperium, read on me

if either of us had the slightest inkling that you might be scum, you would have been dead and gone long ago

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So is the guilty on WN something we're going to ignore?
Saint is bad too though I guess idc that much.

i sent my investigation on WN to MoF last night and they aren't pushing him

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Titus was obvious scum. Rarely do we get handouts like that.

Anyways, I tried to change me and Imperiums allegiance last night, but the trouser god said that would be gamebreaking, but I disagree, it would be gamechanging.

ftr it wouldn't be gamebreaking, it would be fun as shit

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so fuck you trouser gods

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Hmm...wrong time wrong place gets back guilty to every kind of cop.

I don't know if that has any bearing on that, but yeah.

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read on xtoxm, imp?

He's a decent vote. But with Saint being furcolow, we think that he's a very good chance for scum as he's extremely easy to read.

-I'm going to read through Titus later today once I'm done with some RL stuff I'm working on as she has some pretty ingrained tendencies for how she deals with partners. A quick glance at Saint didn't go against this. I'll look with a particular eye for xtoxm later.

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I only have questions.

(1) What the fuck is

Commune Reformed Evangelicalist

as a Role?

(2) Where did Jaqen's Vig Kill go?

(3) Why do some people think that Titus flipped Cummune (town)? Her name and Role PM was written in red and this seems to decide the question.

(4) Does

"Bible Trumping"

belong to the

"Republican"

faction as Nightkill Flavour?

This is a p terrible post, just saying.

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I only have questions.

(1) What the fuck is

Commune Reformed Evangelicalist

as a Role?

(2) Where did Jaqen's Vig Kill go?

(3) Why do some people think that Titus flipped Cummune (town)? Her name and Role PM was written in red and this seems to decide the question.

(4) Does

"Bible Trumping"

belong to the

"Republican"

faction as Nightkill Flavour?

This is a p terrible post, just saying.

[Imperium]

squared like terrible

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Unvote

Vote: ZZZX

Too many posts for a day 1. Has to be scum.

I thought ZZZX lurked as scum?

Could be scum partner defense. Titus was in pathfinder where zzzx got vigged as town for lurking (granted she was lynched day one), but also she was in wtp where his lurking came up as an issue as well and he was town.

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I hate Gork's recent posting. He's subtly trying to push MoF as scum with no basis for doing so.

If I didn't have nachos voice insisting that mof are town, I'd look at this as a partner defense, but I suppose it could be trying to get them on her side, still.

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@WN, did you quote the wrong post when you said bullshit?

I am fine with MoF flip BTW. No reason for town MS to scumread Over soul.

Nope, never mind, mof is town.

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Votes on me suck ass with a straw. As in arguments are rewerse strawmanny, and parkological.

If you tell me I've been useless one more time Ima fuckin doll you. Maybe I have but I don't need to read that from you capiche

I'll tell you if it's a food idea to vote pisskop in a little bit. Rub one off or something unti or loose some hair, your dong or money. See if I give a duckplucking sockknotting bark.

Do you know why nobody has posted since you posted this?

It's because everyone knows you should be banned out of the game for this an their just waiting for me to show a reaction. Here it is. You are banned from forum mafia forever. Good bye

Both of these sound quite an overreaction.
They also sound fake.

Unvote
Vote: NakedJogger

~Sakura

Why do these seem like an overreaction? Is Naked Jogger wagoned a lot too?

I'm already scum reading nakedloran but could see this as partnerish as well.

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Yeah, the ensuing conversation with voided About loran looks bad.

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@871, Cork, how do you have me on your do nothing list, when you were voting me because you didn't like my earlier posts? Why is post quantity relevant to your Prof read? Why are you making me a major wagon when you have no intent on lynching me? Why aren't you voting and making cases on people like Slobber, who you would want lynched today?

Unfortunately slobber is probably town

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Eh once the guilty was claimed some if titus' tells aren't as reliable but town from her are:

Mof, over soul, gorkington, tip ( though we have mod confirmation on that slot) - hey same as fardsides rulings.

Scum could be in loran jogger and saint so I'll vote either one of those right now. I'll be working on catching up in the next couple days and MASTERS OF FLATULENCE could come in here and clarify crap any minute now.

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Oh I forgot about slobber also probably being town.

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Oh I'll also vote zzzx, sorry drinking right now.

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From the way that Titus typically treats partners I wouldn't be surprised if any of zzzx, saint, loran jogger are scum.

[Imperium]

Not necessary.

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I had a theory that saint could be a self-watcher as long as his master-pisskop was alive, and when he died his mask got ripped off and since he was left all alone he lost his power, but I think that he didn't mention anything about that that it wasn't a part of his role.

[Imperium]

Why? You're a cop on scum, it's not exactly rocket science.
Also night result?

1. no im not.
2. i got vanllaized last night.

hey wisdom.
hey.
wisdom.
im waiting.

Hm.

There goes my pisskop dead theory.

Also, maybe my saint scum read, need to think.

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VOTE: zzzx

[Imperium]

i don't know why anyone would vanilla-ize a sel-watcher though.