In post 3875, NicCage wrote:In post 2848, Trench Warfare wrote:I am gem. Not all gems get special fusion abilities.
Also, what did I not read?
Titus
In post 2851, Trench Warfare wrote:To be clear, I have fusion OR ally ability. Not fusion only.
@Cerb: This is what I was talking about
good job otherwise.
In post 4857, Xtoxm wrote:In post 4843, Varsoon wrote:I am glad the game made it to a lylo situation, honestly.
This is generally a pretty good indication of balance.
@Cerb, I was just worried about you and your protection for the coming night phase (that i'm glad wasn't needed in the end). Hermit was obviously not a fucking supersaint and I was beginning to build up annoyance that I would be caught for the wrong reason. You really seemed too confident today, and voted far more quickly than what i'd expect from you in a lylo situation, so I thought you had means to block my night kill again for a 3p lylo.
In post 4901, grapes wrote:i felt like xtoxm's vote on hermit after yall unvoted was pretty scum motivated especially with supersaint paranoia swimming around and really liked when hermit called that out
hermit didn't put up all that bad of a fight in comparison to some of the games ive read that he was in
In post 4909, Fluminator wrote:Good job getting the win xtom. I was rooting specifically for you.
Fantastic game you made Varsoon. The fact that such a crazy power role heavy game made it to lylo is impressive.
Still probably not signing up for a large game again though. Lol. Sticking with the shorter ones. Thanks to Xtom for filling in.
When Rational caught a link between Sonic and Titus I was like "ooohhhh crap" and truly thought town had it won at that point.
We did! Until we screwed up. Repeatedly. In a few different ways. By a few different people. Like, it took a parade of mistakes for us to lose after lynching scum four times in a row. ). We wased one bodyguard by not having an alliance mate, so we only bodyguarded 3 times. In post 4922, Varsoon wrote:I'll edit it in.
OH, as a note, Jasper's jailkeeping ability would not have an effect on Steven. I should have had that in my mod notes. Hm.
I think you played well, though, Cerb & Drixx
In post 4929, Varsoon wrote:@Cerb: Yes, it would.
I should have written that Steven counts as a human but may also fuse with Gems and any attempt to rolecop/flavorcop him will return both human and gem.
Eccch
@grapes: <3 Thanks for playing! This game has consumed so much of my time over the year. I just hope everyone had fun c:
I don't know how that would have changed how we approached stuff. In post 4940, Cheetory6 wrote:Sorry for fake crumbing.
Lolllll.
I think the biggest mistake made this game by town was assuming that one could understand the nuances of a setup designed by Varsoon, which is really just a solid compliment to Varsoon as a mod in general.
Kudos man. I hope my life becomes less shitty and busy sometime in the future so I can play in more of your setups and hopefully not die instantly or lurk out <3
In post 186, Cheetory6 wrote:He could just be creative.
We can fight with our fists postgame when Varsoon's setup proves that true grace can be accomplished while also breaking expectations as I'm sure it will. ;D
When taken with the fuse thing at least. In post 4966, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 4871, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:Xtoxm
I'm expecting people to realize sooner than later that my meta is unconventional.
A lot of players have expressed frustration at their inability to read me. Burn it with fire! <--- That kind of thing.
If you want someone to not lurk though, that isn't me. I have to lurk given how long the time interval is between day and night.
i can read you pretty easily, but every single time i have to save your ass and call you town and defend you...
or when im scum, you're a free kill
you're basically an asset to the opposing faction every time you play, and a liability, and you should change that.
In post 4968, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I think my cop play through people off bc it was not at all like my normal town game. I was not sure how to play the role which should be obvious to most anyone
He would of had to kill me at some point given there was a good chance of fake claiming a lie on him. Mad credit to the scum who played awesomely ....
I don't think I contradicted myself,,,,, I guess I might of but not on purpose,,,I was pretty sure of how my ability work since I asked Vasoon about ( several times)
In post 4973, Metal Sonic wrote:fuzzy's lie detect would never have been able to work, because by the time you could set that up, it was lylo. i noted as such in the dead thread
In post 4984, Metal Sonic wrote:drixx, go on ahead and add more to the nomination if i've missed out anything in my (should be pretty comprehensive) post. you're pretty articulate, so I guess you can add stuff if you can?
but I didn't have much more to say. ^^ In post 4992, Metal Sonic wrote:i tried reading the hydra pt and i think i will do it later maybe
In post 4995, Metal Sonic wrote:where can we get more reasonably rational goodness?
In post 5001, Metal Sonic wrote:ika's in the game and titus doesnt like playing with him
and the game sounds bastard, and i dont like that, so we might be sitting that one out
In post 5004, Titus wrote:ika and mollie vote and tunnel me day 1 in every single fucking game. I won't in to another game with them. It's like being hated.
It was more like, hey, why do you think this happened? Oh, it could be because of x y z, and the set of options ALWAYS included why it was being done by scum, from what we can tell with what we have to read here. I approve of a scum team with all of us on it. ^^ In post 5015, Titus wrote:Cerb, because people think differently than we do doesn't excuse us for mislynching them.
I fully accept responsibility for the outcome here. In post 5016, Titus wrote:Cerb, Drixx, Sonic, us four in our hydras in the next large theme that comes up with a wotc procedure?
In post 5017, Varsoon wrote:<3
Thanks for the 'noms.
I'll definitely let everyone know when Steven Universe Mafia 2 rolls around.
I'll also likely PM you guys when Varsoon Mafia 2 and Parasyte Mafia go into signups, if that's cool.
This game was a blast to watch, and I'm really happy the mechanics worked out.
In post 5027, Varsoon wrote:So, here's the real question:
Should Parasyte Mafia feature the Alliance mechanic?
In post 5039, Fro99er wrote:Metal and I have worked with Varsoon to scrub the PT. to those who thought I wasn't open to that and was being selfish - you can apologize for your language. Especially cerb who thought I wasn't open to reconsidering (FWIW I always wanted it open, just didn't know it was possible to scrub the personal stuff. I think my record for always having my scum PT released speaks for itself)
I am a pacifist at heart and only like making people happy. Seriously.
In post 5040, Fro99er wrote:And if it's that important that you're willing to whine and curse at me over a game, I'm not so sure I want to play you.
People always forget someone is on the other side of the screen.
Cerberus v666 wrote:Sorry about blowing up a bit about the scum PT thing. It wasn't a real emotional blow up(I don't do those), it was more intended to express how important this subject is to me, and how aggravating I find it. I'm the kind of person who has something irritating happen, and crafts a faux emotional post, to make it obvious that I find it irritating, but i don't really feel nearly the level of emotion that I make it sound like I felt.
Also, pre-in me for all of your upcoming games k? Seriously, I love the flavor work you put in to everything, and I've wanted an excuse to watch parasyte.
In post 1101, Reasonably Rational wrote:In post 1091, NicCage wrote:I dunno which one you mean, I'm guessing RR, but I'll do both.
I felt like Sonic's criticism of Beer's attack on them was legitimate, and that was that they were basically just saying "this post is bad" with a lot more words. I felt like that style, whatever they called it, deep analysis or something, was basically just an excuse to seem like they were doing something. I believe vezok, and I think that pawtucket's failure to express any reads in his neighborhood is extremely suspicious, since that's a pretty low pressure environment.
For RR I am suspicious, but I can't really tell what's going on there. I mean your 899 hit the nail on the head, how likely is it that both heads have the exact same playstyle for this game? It's super weird. And trench is on their side, which bothers me. I'm open to voting them I guess, but I'm just so shaky on that read. They could be legit. I feel like I ought to see more.
p-edit: directed at grapes
This is interesting. I had actually missed the part in 899 talking about the similarity in style between Drixx and myself, and the reference to ego, so I'll take a moment to address it now since you drew my attention to it(thank you).
I am terrible at Day 1. Everything that everyone jumps at and tries to lynch people over reads like nonsense to me, and it all feels incredibly arbitrary.HOWEVER(and here is where the ego comes in) I KNOW that, if placed in a room with a random assortment of people, it is highly unlikely that they'll be better at a given intellectual pursuit than I am. What does this lead me to conclude? That if I think I'm fucking terrible at Day 1, most other people must be EVEN WORSE and just too blinded by their hubris to realize it. So, grapes was half right. There's ego involved, but it's not ego in thinking I'm actually good at this game. It's ego in thinking that if I'm this bad, how can the rest of you possibly be significantly better?
The above is the foundation of both my dislike for day 1, and my general lack of scum reads on said day. It's not that I/we don't have scum reads and leans we've discussed and the reasons behind them, it's that(in my case at least) I don't view the evidence as strong enough to present a case, regardless of how strongly I might feel someone is probably scum.
I hesitate to speak for Drixx, but I'm fairly certain he feels much the same way I do about the arbitrary nature of D1 reads and lynches. He's also better at this than I am, generally(he does focus a bit much on the wrong things sometimes). And we also both started out playing on the same site, with the same meta, so it shouldn't be entirely surprising if there are similarities in the way we approach the game. Beyond that, I can't really speak for him.
Sorry, that post should have happened 100 posts ago.
In regards to us "lurking out the game," I find it's far more interesting to see how the conversations about us flow when we're not actively involved in them. Plus, work and switching to the hydra is irritating. In any case, I'm putting this here: VOTE: Beer
I like this a lot more than the lynch the lynchbait plan(does anyone really believe fuzzy is THAT bad at being scum? like seriously? the level of scumminess in his posts is astronomical), or lynch the inactive who has been replaced by someone who actually seems engaged in the game.
For the record, I don't think Drixx will approve. He seems to be of the opinion that, because Vezok just gave up on that lynch, it was either a scum play that failed(which I think is unlikely, given that it's a low reward play with high risk, and given his double voting which seems unlikely to be(though possibly is) scum), OR it was a mutual play they came up with in their PT to reaction test the town, in which case it isn't alignment indicative at all.
I think the fact that this wagon disappeared basically as soon as the first distraction appeared is good cause to think it was on scum. I keep planning on looking at those vote counts, and seeing who left the wagon when and what they said was their reason for leaving it, but I keep pushing it off. I'll try to get around to it before we get super close to deadline. But remember, I'm terrible at this, so seriously, I could be wrong.
-Cerb
P.S. Let's see how long it takes for someone to point out how opportunistic this vote is, jumping on the wagon that's gaining momentum, and how it must be a counterwagon to scum somewhere in the current candidates, and how "omg it's so obvious he's just trying to distance himself from a lynch he KNOWS will flip town by talking about how he's bad". Whoever decides to take the plunge into making those arguments, you have fun with that.
P.P.S. Trench supporting us is a little worrisome as well(and you guys didn't confirm the plan with the allying thing, I'd like to make sure we're all clear on the procedure so we don't all end up without an alliance or something stupid like that). There's really two options there: Either they're scum, and know they failed miserably at getting Drixx at least lynched recently as town when they were fabulously wrong about his alignment and very confrontational, and thus think buddying up to us will be more effective, or they're town and have come to the realization that our mutual issues with getting a handle on each other/the ease with which we misunderstand each other are problems we should be very aware of, and try to avoid, and are thus doing so by deliberately being non confrontational. At least, that's how I see it. Maybe I'm overthinking it. Maybe it's as simple as "Titus would prefer to ally with known quantities who approach the game in a similar fashion, and will thus be more likely to spend the day in a useful conversation, than arguing about methodology."