SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Otolia]

Otolia replaces TAoS
Turns out it's hard to find a replacement for a 300+ page game.

Speaking of which, I'll

NOT

read the thread in its entirety. If you have specific things, you'll like me to read, please mention them specifically with links. I'm going to focus on understand the mechanics of the game first. Otherwise I'll be V/LA from 30th of April until the 10th of May when I'll be traveling to Istanbul.

I've played with a few of you (Nacho mostly but ZZX too), played a Magua game as well. I probably won't replace out unless someone plays against his wincon as it's a big no-no for me. Let's have a good game.

[Otolia]

Am I arriving when you were trying to policy lynch my slot ?

[Otolia]

Are you going to read parts of the thread without specific direction?

All lynches. As well as skim through the lynchee's posts

Promise, claim all of the actions your slot has taken.

So that you can hop on my wagon and scream "scum" ? It's not like I have a choice though.

[Otolia]

No. I won't claim because I don't know the mechanics well enough to be sure, it won't be detrimental to my faction.

[Otolia]

I'm conftown.

You claim your actions now or die.

Prove it.

[Otolia]

I've replaced less than an hour ago. I don't even understand how my abilities work. I'm not obstructionist, I'm playing like I feel I should.

All I ask is an hour where I'll have dinner, read the lynches and then I'll claim. Is that acceptable to you ?

[Otolia]

I don't think he was asking for a full claim, just claiming your actions so far.

I don't even know them. I know have a stacks of some sort and all my abilities available.

[Otolia]

I just contacted dramonic for more infos.

[Otolia]

Has anyone claim before me ? If yes, can you please name them ?

[Otolia]

I'm conftown.

You claim your actions now or die.

Prove it.

I'm vouching for him.
Do as he says.

VOTE: Otolia.
Extra incentive. You're the lead wagon for a reason.

My slot just became the lead wagon. Last VC it was ooba in what I can only describe as a case nobody-wants-to-vote-itis. Don't bullshit me into believing my slot did terrible things he had to atone otherwise I wouldn't have had to replace in and you could all continue this game with my presence.

What do you want me to claim exactly ? I can't exactly quote my PM can I ?

Would something equivalent to "Lie-Detecting Racist" and my name suffice ?

[Otolia]

So you all decided to leave me there wanking my noodle waiting for dramonic or anyone to just answer me ?

Geez thanks, that was very helpful.

Please note that I'm on CEST (aka MIGHTY YUROP) and have a dayjob which means I don't post during my night (stating in exactly 3 hours) and you can't expect me to sit on my ass waiting for you so either you get a move or you'll wait for tomorrow / lynch me / whatever you want.

[Otolia]

Anything helpful to add or are you just looking to be map for something I'm not responsible of ?

[Otolia]

map -> mad

[Otolia]

Don't bullshit me into believing my slot did terrible things he had to atone otherwise I wouldn't have had to replace in and you could all continue this game with my presence.

The only thing that kept votes off of your slot was that it was getting replaced.

And imagine that, the moment your slot is filled, you've got votes, 'cause people have been holding back waiting for YOU for, what? Two weeks?

Yeah. Word of advice, don't tick us off.

People haven't been waiting for me. They've been waiting for my slot. The difference lies here. I am not responsible for the frustration you feel towards the slot. I'll do my best to make the game enjoyable for everyone regardless of my win condition but I can't change what happened in the past. I don't want to read too much your warning/threat but I'm puzzled as to why you feel it is necessary to bully me (the player) when I just arrived and are very much clueless.

Apparently my abilities have been revealed. By whom ? I have no idea since TAoS's ISO didn't show anything apart from him confirming the double voting thing on a specific person. I can re-confirm that and say that it's ressource dependent and thus can't use it right now if you ever thought about asking me to confirm that as well.

[Otolia]

You could say why you were so obstructionist about claiming info you didn't have rather than just saying "mod didn't tell me" at the beginning

@Otolia:

Answer please.

Sorry I thought I answered that but apparently it got lost in the numerous tabs I got open for this game.

Basically, I came in, and I get jumped on. I don't know how powerful my abilities can be in this setting. I don't recognize anyone from my neighboorhood (they're all freaking dead). I didn't even know everyone was in a neighborhood. Basically I'm in the dark and you want me to claim. I understood that as a full name-claim instead of my history (that's a mistake on my part and that's why I'm posting this) and my favorite game on MS was actually blown open by such a thing. You should remember you were in there. So basically I do the only thing that makes sense immediately : I try to understand what the fuck is going on. Meanwhile dramonic isn't answering me ...

[Otolia]

Since the questioning has died down, I'm going to bed. If you feel I haven't done my best to be truthful with town then so be it. I'll be back tomorrow, hopefully I'm still alive and we can enjoy this game.

@Skybird : Thanks, I'll see what I can do but that's still 200 pages to read with not a lot of flips. I have a job where I can post here but it won't allow me to read the whole day.

@vezokpiraka : Imperial Intrigue had the best flavour !

[Otolia]

I'm sorry, but I'm starting to hate these replacements that don't do anything. I don't want you to read all the thread,but at least do something.

I'm sorry, but I'm starting to hate these replacements that don't do anything. I don't want you to read all the thread,but at least do something.

What would you like me to do ?

Aside from the fact that I was the target of said inquisition, I think Magua's pressure directly after I came into the game was the right decision. So yeah probably going to sheep for now.

VOTE: Heartless

I'll read his ISO today. Anything I should know about him ?

[Otolia]

@dramonic

: Can you update the first post to reflect all the replacing that have been going on ?

[Otolia]

So I'm sheeping because I don't even know everyone here but why are you all voting Heartless ?

[Otolia]

We get close to lynxhing tso? Magic happens.

We waba lynch a b and c? Oh a and b can't die and c is lynxh proof

Who's unlynchable ? Who can't die ?

[Otolia]

We get close to lynxhing tso? Magic happens.

We waba lynch a b and c? Oh a and b can't die and c is lynxh proof

Who's unlynchable ? Who can't die ?

He's talking about himself, drixx and mastin.

no?

Then who ?

[Otolia]

mastin, look, no offense, but it's D4. 350 pages. You can't *not* have scumreads. I mean, you even mention a scumread on Otolia in the next line.

...A read which is too weak to warrant being called by that name. I'm voting Otolia because Otolia's the closest thing I have to a proper scumread, but I'm not optimistic. If everyone had a 50% baseline chance of being scum, Otolia would maybe be 52%.

Are you scumreading me or my slot ? Why ?

Heartless (7):

MnemonicDevice

,

Magua

,

Otolia

, Zelink, Skybird, Metal Sonic, Vezokpiraka
Otolia (2): Imperium, Mastin2
twie (2): TSO, Ooba
Ooba (1): Espeonage
vezokpiraka (1): Heartless
Not Voting: Fourtrouble, Drixx, ZZZX, TWIE

Btw, justsayin'.
If Heartless is town, then there be scum on the wagon. I'm not touching Sonic or Vezok, either. Skybird would take some convincing, Zelink some HEAVY convincing, butyeah. There you go.
Meanwhile, the Otolia wagon is great, and the other wagons are meh, with a small dosage of maybe-scummy, maybe-distancing, probably-not-driven-by-town.

That was weak as hell. I'm fucking sheeping Magua because you cleared him as town and I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON ! Nobody is answering my questions, the 2 reads I should have as secured (You as cop and the one who cleared) are at each others throat. So yeah I'm sheeping and if that's why I'm scummy, please tell me and I'll have a good laugh ...

[Otolia]

Hum anyone has a list of claimed Powers handy ? That would be great !

[Otolia]

Wait I thought mastin was a cop ? Thanks anyway.

[Otolia]

Actions of my predecessor :

Doublevote on AngryPidgeon D1
Doublevote on Ozgin D2

[Otolia]

clarity! i target a person. then my vote counts at 2 against them. so i have to activate it.

That's what TAoS said and it's still my role-description. I have no steal abilities.

[Otolia]

Otolia, have you had a chance to read enough to have an opinion on who scum is?

I don't really know. Magua's town. Mastin2 probably not. Heartless just destroyed any hope we had of having a good discussion so there's that. Right now, I don't see any better lynch than him. What he did was clearly anti-town :/ The rest is in murky waters.

[Otolia]

Thing is, peeps, in the situation we are right now and with how things are evolving, this game is going to be abandoned. I just replaced in and I wish I didn't so I imagine the pain of those who were there since the beginning. Catching scum is the best but sometimes, just to win, you'll have to consider other possibilities. What Heartless did clearly benefits scum much more than it benefits town no matter which votes he annuled. Your refusal to admit this point mastin is rather surprising.

PS : I've asked Dramonic if I could try to double vote someone with my initial vote cancelled, and it wasn't possible.

[Otolia]

Did you ever learn about formatting or writing one post instead of many ? Your posting style is fucking obnoxious.

And why did I do this game that warrants a vig ? Aside from saying that what you did was clearly stupid and hurts town ?

[Otolia]

You're aware that your slot existed before you were in it?

Sure. But if you wanna talk about my slot, I don't really need to be there do I ?

[Otolia]

Otolia,

Have you used your ability today and what happens if you try to use it on someone who has a vote? Or someone who doesn't have a vote?

Thing is, peeps, in the situation we are right now and with how things are evolving, this game is going to be abandoned. I just replaced in and I wish I didn't so I imagine the pain of those who were there since the beginning. Catching scum is the best but sometimes, just to win, you'll have to consider other possibilities. What Heartless did clearly benefits scum much more than it benefits town no matter which votes he annuled. Your refusal to admit this point mastin is rather surprising.

PS : I've asked Dramonic if I could try to double vote someone with my initial vote cancelled, and it wasn't possible.

My ability is useless today.

[Otolia]

Does he just say "no, bl!" or do you steal their vote but not gain an extra vote?

Without breaking any rules, how is the ability worded?

I don't steal votes. Each day, I target someone and and my vote counts as 2. Dramonic said this ability wouldn't work as my vote was annuled and I can't get a second one.

[Otolia]

I'm also with Imperium with the idea that the games needs to move on. Yesterday was terrible, today had a confTown appeared and a cop who still don't say everything there is to say about her abilities or why she targeted Imperium instead of her principal scumread, me.

[Otolia]

Otolia what resource is your doublevote based on?

Nothing. It's an innate ability.

[Otolia]

Apparently my abilities have been revealed. By whom ? I have no idea since TAoS's ISO didn't show anything apart from him confirming the double voting thing on a specific person. I can re-confirm that and say that it's ressource dependent and thus can't use it right now if you ever thought about asking me to confirm that as well.

...then what?

I was mistaken. My double-vote is the resource harvester, my other ability (reflexive & self-targeted) can be activated once I get enough resources (I can't use it right now since I couldn't use it the double-vote yesterday)

One thing is bothering me with TSO's admission to lying. What did he stand to gain from that as scum ? Still he has some pretty weird views on his own behavior :

I realise I am in a bad mood, but fuck, that's unacceptable.

im done

versus

I don't care about this game enough to bother getting involved emotionally. It's bad play, I agree.

I mean the thing that changed during that time was Imperium's resurrection. One explanation could be that he has given up on the game but I feel that isn't alignment-indicative.

[Otolia]

And a gigantic V/LA makes you change your opinion on the game ? How so ?

[Otolia]

3. TSO-scum would know who vezok was protecting last Night (it was discussed in our PT) and I imagine the scumkill would've been on someone who already have some confirmation rather than Imperium.

It's a role madness with a resurrection ability. If there is no commuter, lightning-rod or bus driver I would be surprised. That shouldn't be an argument in his defense.

[Otolia]

Originally I would've agreed with you. However, the kills don't really make sense if you assume that the scum could bypass protective abilities.

Eg, if you assume Ollie is really someone who could vig every day and did shoot Andrius, why was his shot not redirected? Why was he not killed?

Why was Imperium killed last Night over me?

Why was Mask killed N2? He wasn't strongly townread, and the scum knew his exact role. My read here is that they didn't want any doc protects, which doesn't make sense if they had ways of subverting protects.

What if scum couldn't bypass protection (which would explain Mask's kill and the fact that you are alive) and the redirecting is from someone else ?

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So since Magua asked, I'm Odin the Allfather

• My ult
  Ring of Spears
  is the double-voting and resource harvester.
  
• I have an activable BP called
  Raven Shout
  for a day.
  
• I have a passive based on my ring of spears stack.

[Otolia]

Can you reflect a kill to someone like Skybird claimed?

No.

[Otolia]

So MS you've spent the last 4 days wasting town's time. You asked everybody's opinion on which slot to kill to just wait around sitting on your ass asking for protection in a game where there are more valuable players than yourself (like a confTown player) and asking everyone to claim. I was waiting to see who you were going to vig to vote but since you have apparently no reason to do anything, I might as well vote now.

VOTE: TSO

Also I see a lot of speculation of scum abilities and a lot of people reacting to these speculations as if they were true. Let's replace the context here. 2 scums have been killed early game, as well as a 3rd party. The kills have been inefficient at best. So what are you all so afraid of ?

[Otolia]

Alright so I'm getting accused of lying about my double-voting ability. Since it was my predecessor who used it, I won't bother trying to find the VC to prove it but it's fairly easy to show that I can double-vote so I don't really know why I'm getting voted. Town's apathy at its best. And yes I have a roleblocking ability but it's only on people triggering my bulletproof (that's why it's reflexive roleblocker). And it's partially because I cannot protect myself everyday without accruing ressource. I had no reason to divulge that as town even when asked to claim. My neighborhood contained a scum that won with us and the rest of the neighborhood (the mask and me) have protective abilities. It makes sense for us to have ways to stay alive. Unfortunately AngryPidgeon never came forth with its 3rd party status so, it was not to be.

I'll read the thread and pick someone to vote, or Imperium can give me a name. Either way, I'm not getting lynched today because Metal Sonic is too lazy to check-up that my ability was used by TheAceofSpades to lynch a scum in AngryPidgeon. It's fucking hilarious how you think I am scum when that is easily verifiable.

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Just to show that everybody should know that I can double-vote :

aceofspades - How did you get that second vote yesterday? Is it something you can do every day?

[Otolia]

Thank you Drixx you winning the game single-handedly. Congratulations to dramonic for not abandoning the game