SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Metal Sonic]

ankamius looks kind of town though

[Metal Sonic]

Also, I do say this.
Actually confirmed.
As in proven.
I can say 100% that ZX and Xombie are both not scum.
This isn't some claimed role shenanigan of theirs, or something they claimed and proved yet which means nothing beyond proving their power exists. (e.g. double-voter.)
It's an actual, established, hard-lined fact about them.

For others defending a player.
Be honest.
And tell me.
Can the same be said of your defendant?

you have them as more town that you had AP before his lynch, aye?

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Nah, we need votes on Ankamius. Even assuming 119 is okay (it's not), there's still been lots of stuff to talk about since the game "start," so the RVS vote, lack of scumhunting, and fluffy commentary is by far the worst, scummiest thing here.

Agree about the RVS vote and lack of scumhunting. Not sure if it is his playstyle to complain about a large number of posts in general. I'm waiting to see how he catches up.

Give me something specific to look at and I'll respond. Otherwise, I'm waiting until something jumps out at me.

What do you think of Metal Sonic's interactions with Imperium and Solar Wind?

I tried triple-ISOing them and got 188 results. Any specific pages?

OH MY GOD.

I appreciate your suspicion I really do but if you're going to call my slot scummy I'd appreciate it if you pretend to read my posts. kthnxbai

tammy has been yelling about "please read my posts" even since post 300

i find this fishy

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meanwhile, vezok piraka has been heavy on the ace wagon

this is a dilemma

some people are yelling that he is town

are they wrong, or am i wrong?

[Metal Sonic]

Hello mask !! My new best friend I missed you so much! It was so quiet in this thread I was very sad and lonely

[Metal Sonic]

My BFF! I don't think this will help you much right now but I want to give you something. I hope you enjoy so I can give you more presents! Have a wonderful day.

Inspire: Metal Sonic

Okay hugs and kisses <3

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It goes without saying it should be a consensus vig seeing as I am the only one in his scumreads list and there's still 0 reason for that.

Screw consensus vigs



But I do feel bad for you I'll update you on my readslist later okay!

[Metal Sonic]

A consensus of me myself and I basically

[Metal Sonic]

You're making the assumption that I actually factored those posts into my VIG idea

[Metal Sonic]

PV voted rach ergo rach is not scum with PV

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PV voted rach ergo rach is not scum with PV

Scum don't vote for their scum buddy?
Since when?

Did I mention the lack of interaction?

If not rach I'd say td.

Hell shot me so I don't have to deal with the spam feast.

In all honesty if rach is scum there are few players that look scummier for it.
If she's somehow town then I eat crow.

Your wish is my command!

Arc Sineshot: farside

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VOTE: ooba

[Metal Sonic]

Did MS go full retard?

Not full retard. Yet.

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Full retard is shooting you

[Metal Sonic]

Because it is difficult to find scum despite us doing a great marvelous job so far

[Metal Sonic]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA such garbage

Sine Arcshot: ooba

[Metal Sonic]

I just gone full retard and reformatted my com because of a dumb black screen problem and I forgot to backup fuck that

[Metal Sonic]

For some reason the computer still kept my index wallpaper

[Metal Sonic]

Normally I don't really care since my computer is really empty and lots of my good stuff are stored on the cloud,


But I have 10 hours worth of koiken otome stored on the computer it is lost!!! Omg is there save files online I want to skip those

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What would be garbage is your own skill at reading people in the game if that shot hits.

im a 3rd party racist i dont care who dies

[Metal Sonic]

hi TSO, how has your "metal sonic is the best dayvig and disarmed the nuclear bomb PV by himself" analysis going?






to be honest havent tried to analyse you yet

[Metal Sonic]

qq

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my coomputer did but i am currently reviving it

[Metal Sonic]

nah

i cant use 2 dayvigs in a day silly

[Metal Sonic]

even after inspire

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Or your town

why thank you

the case is closed

now all the rest of you with those "3rd party racist" ideas can kindly shut up


especially heartlesss

mr contrarian scumhero

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Mastin claims that she will be "clear" by day 3

[Metal Sonic]

Then again she could be scum who wants to stall her ultimate so she can use it before death

Like PV...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Metal Sonic]

pros and cons of lynching mastin:

if town:

pros:
we CLEAR zzzx and xombie 100%. one. hundred. percent.
less wifom
less walls (STRANGELY. MASTIN HAS NO WALLS THIS GAME. SUSPICIOUS.)

cons:
she's a great player. or so they say
no perfect win
however she cleared the other 2 players, there'll be less of that

if scum:
yay





i will probably have to analyse her as well....


being a dayvig isnt easy....

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to do list

analyse:
rachmarie
TSO
farside
ooba
mastin
aceofspades <-review (i have him as rather town)



of course im procrastinating after hitting scum correctly, right?

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last post for today i promise

sonic readlists

town

2. Metal Sonic
23. Bitmap
7. TheWayItEnds
13. Solar Wind (F-16_Fighting_Falcon and fferyllt)
21. Magua
3. Mastin2 <----- getting unsure
25. Heartless (TellTaleHeart and Antihero) < ----- because governor claim <----- probably have to re evaluate. if we lynch you please govern yourself.
Cephrir <---- PR claim
14. FourTrouble (may need to refresh read)

not null but dont know

12. Farside22 (Gun to head:

town

scum)
22. vezokpiraka (Gun to head: scum) <--------- interesting that i didnt change trajectory
Imperium (Gun to head:

town

scum

???)
6. Beastcharizard < ---- his vote PR looks towny but bad play (gun to head: town)
9. Ooba (gun to head: scum) <--------- same for you
5. Theaceofspade (gun to head: town)
TiphaineDeath (gun to head: town)

null

17. RachMarie
19. Ankamius

scum (i have too little scumreads this list is suspiciously empty

20. T S O

PeregrineV

protected by someone

18. The Mask (Guarantor: Cephrir & METAL SONIC)
8. ZZZX (Guarantor: Mastin2)
Xombie (Guarantor: Mastin2)
Skybird (Guarantor: Metal Sonic)

[Metal Sonic]

Then I wonder why you have only 70 posts

I also wonder why you are only interested to disprove the fact, rather than the point, that 5/70 = 1/14 of your posts are about scummy setup spec

[Metal Sonic]

@farside

Beast, ooba, T S HOHOHO

[Metal Sonic]

Heartless too but I cannot read antihero for shit

[Metal Sonic]

good answers.

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Do you ever get tired of trying to read me as scum mastin?

Never gets old, no.

I would too, but his predecessors are crystal clear town. Like your AP's 90%. (Of course, the catch is the 10%)

In contrast, skybird is 100% town. She claims to be afraid of playing at LYLO, but that's another thing to consider separately. In fact, as "lynchbait", she is unlikely to get night killed, which is a good attribute.

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Because you are calling me racist

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Are you a governor let us mess around with you and lynch you and you counter govern the scum

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Make yourself unlynchable and call the shots

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That's what I thought.

Ooo xposts

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Ah. A three way executioner thingie.

Heartless and me are discussing beast.

Vote: FT

Executioner?! You were in capcom game.....


It's called a gladiator iirc

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I don't like how if There is only 1 scum among the three, scums efforts maximum is to get town to hit the other two

[Metal Sonic]

If beast is scum wouldn't there be more resistance

Or is he another PV bomb

[Metal Sonic]

That super sonic disarmed, mind you

bitmap for love and glory bring me into the portal ty

[Metal Sonic]

Eh, sometimes someone is just scum.

Sure he might not be. But people get too easily spooked by consensus.

I am one of them HAHAHA

[Metal Sonic]

Spooked by consensus. Not scum.

[Metal Sonic]

Beastcharizard is going the same way as he did in touhou. I don't like it.

Link please?

Yoink

He was active for about three posts and then basically lurked for the whole game until he was mislynched lategame, but he slowly started getting people onto his ass for it as time went on. The primary reason it took so long to get to him was the sheer amount of distractions in the midgame.

I don't remember beast being scum

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Oh you mean his play here is as bad there

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Same could be said for TD

[Metal Sonic]

FT's intial questioning\analysis looks fine but it's the pushes he chooses that I have problems with: Anamikus, Vezok, TD,

Ceph

, beast,

mastin

The two bolded are fine I guess.

Funny, 'cause the bolded are the only two that

are

problematic as far as I'm concerned.

@People with experience with mastin scum - does she have a history of asking team mates to claim fake stuff the following day? (Like asking TD to claim RB on her to make TD sound more town. mastin-scum would probably know people won't lynch her on the basis of that claim)

On the contrary, I specifically advocate truthclaiming as much as possible...ESPECIALLY in role madness. I might lie if circumstances demand a lie of me, but it'll be a little white lie, not a flat-faced bold lie.

The greatest lies always have that little bit of truth.

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Same could be said for TD

I don't know td to be a doche to people and then all but be invisible during a game before.
Can you expand on this?

It's new. I've seen him do this in 3 games since he returned

[Metal Sonic]

you could just take my word for it

[Metal Sonic]

FT's intial questioning\analysis looks fine but it's the pushes he chooses that I have problems with: Anamikus, Vezok, TD,

Ceph

, beast,

mastin

The two bolded are fine I guess.

Funny, 'cause the bolded are the only two that

are

problematic as far as I'm concerned.

This is exactly what I was going to say!

i suddenly realised the significance of this quote.

i skimmed through it the first time and misread.

[Metal Sonic]

xD

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@Mod: I want to be replaced.

Please portal me first!!! I want to catch your replacee up

[Metal Sonic]

Jose whedln mafia is over. I'd be scum reading antihero slot right about now, but I got burned.

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Noted, ankamius should've eliminated tomorrow

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Vezok brings up a very very strong point. It suggests that your reads are superficial, manufactured and are on a surface level. I will double check to confirm if the accusations are valid

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its not a scum case. its a "valid point" that is only a building block of a case. Is there any reason why you jump to the conclusion that it's a case?

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die scum, or die idiot?

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it looks more idiotic than town though. would you see that garbage coming from scum? no. only from garbage players or pple playing like garbage

[Metal Sonic]

Vote beast

What changed your read on TD?

this is lol

[Metal Sonic]

Xombie reaction my fake daycop was weird too, let me remind you

[Metal Sonic]

Zzzx you used to be top poster and my best friend!! What happened! Now you are worst poster and I have a new best friend called "The Mask"

[Metal Sonic]

MISREPRESENTATION!

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who wrote the above? Nacho ?

[Metal Sonic]

Wow okay fine I can't tell between TAMMY and Nacho hydra heads okay.

[Metal Sonic]

It's not weird if nobody can
Your hydra is weird

I'm not xD

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Also td is not that stupid ms.

uh Ya I know. But since he came back his play gone down the gutter. Like zzzx. Let me just say that he was an okay player pre-hiatus but now a VI. Have you played with lostpatience before?

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I think TD's roleblock claim + vote on mastin was incredibly town.

And I thought it was incredibly null!

Dumb question: why did td get brambles.

I don't know why a lot of people say it was a result of a reactive PGO. I would say that someone with bramble attack targeted him. I think that those who leap to unusual conclusions have extra info and are scummy

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Ugh I hate when I don't finish reading walls, but ooba's stuff is not fluff. Trying to figure out why TD was covered in brambles was not fluff and if you'd bother reading anything we've said about it you'd know that I thought TD got it as a result of targeting us, which would make him a liar when he said he targeted mastin.

That is explicitly not fluff, that's trying to figure ut the game. You should try it sometime!

Are you claiming "bramble maker"? "Anybody who visits you gets brambles"? Cause I don't see why targeting you causes the targeter to be bramblefied

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Uh huh. So miss brambles?

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I'm keep a slide of players\neighbourhoods. I don't have detailed notes for how I made each of the deductions/jumps. From memory:
- You weren't Egyptian because I am
- You weren't Greek because you replied to House saying you wanted to be in Olympus
- MS claimed Chinese and his two neighbours pretty early on D1
- Pegged {You\SW\Bitmap\xx} as Roman from the rest initially because "strongman with 2 kills" sounded liked Hercules and I'm pretty sure I spotted a Cupid thing from SW
- Reaffirmed when MS said 'Janus' after being Bitmap'd

This post is pretty town. If ooba was scum, the true answer to how he knew the pantheons would be because he is scum. However, he was able to produce all of these things, none of which I really picked up on, 40 minutes after the question was asked. I believe this would take longer than 40 minutes to fabricate, and furthermore, I don't think scum would have seen reason to care about the pantheon issue enough to have something like this ready.

nitpick re " true answer to how he knew the pantheons would be because he is scum.": not necessarily. hoodmasonrys such as mine would not have scum, and thus scum still require deductive skills to determine the neighborhoods.


but I agree

that oobas posts are better recently.

i will take off the rose tinted glasses



also i plan to vig one of beast/td when i can

[Metal Sonic]

if we are lynching either.



i am leaning on a beast lynch. also, why has beast not posted recently

[Metal Sonic]

beastcharizard Jan 17, 04:12am Feb 13, 01:58pm 6 days 9 hours 58


he does not look very prodded

replace him then we grill the replacee

except scum have daytalk so this method may not be conclusive enough

[Metal Sonic]

beastcharizard Jan 17, 04:12am Feb 13, 01:58pm 6 days 9 hours 58


he does not look very prodded

replace him then we grill the replacee

except scum have daytalk so this method may not be conclusive enough

MS, how do you know scum have daytalk?

town have daytalk therefore scum have daytalk

its an assumption that comes with experience

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1) you have mastin as town, fine. You're giving zzzx a town read based entirely off mastin, cool. Why do you then have xombie in your scum reads when mastin has also been calling xombie 100% town? You can't say it's because zzzx is doing more because that's objectively false.

magua made that readslist after mastin called zzzx town but before xombie town

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its only very recently where she said "100% town"

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its only very recently where she said "100% town"

In her first reads list of the day, she has xombie as her secon strongest townread and keeps calling her hood a masonry.

i wouldnt believe her either at that point

1) you have mastin as town, fine. You're giving zzzx a town read based entirely off mastin, cool. Why do you then have xombie in your scum reads when mastin has also been calling xombie 100% town? You can't say it's because zzzx is doing more because that's objectively false.

magua made that readslist after mastin called zzzx town but before xombie town

Why don't you want magua to answer the question? Is he a mute all of a sudden?

because the question is a false leading question. and false. and he has always been rather muted.

why did you ask those questions?

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Farside' proven gladiator ability is a good vouch for farside town. She is playing extremely differently from what I normally see but that's fine.

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Because I'm trying to get a read on magua.

The question isn't false, MASTIN'S been calling xombie town all game. Why believe on one and not the other?

How does asking me the question help your read on magua? Oh the question is very misleading. I can answer why for you. If someone else can answer the question easily, that is not a good question. Because magua if scum could find the right answer easily, making it alignment non indicative.

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Farside' proven gladiator ability is a good vouch for farside town. She is playing extremely differently from what I normally see but that's fine.

I'm trying to look at everything. There are several people who can affect the lynch through, governing, semi-gladiating, double vote, vote thief, acquiring votes through death. I'm not sure every single one of those are town.

Yup. But affecting the lynch does not MEAN town, it is affecting a lynch in a way that prevents the possibility of scum being lynched in a single day, which means town.


What I mean is: if farside scum used this on Lylo day and made the three targets all town, it's a win. Unless there's some restriction, for example "at least 1 scum must be in your picks", this heavily implies farside town.

Similar for a govern, which we have not seen so we can force heartless to use it and show us.

Meanwhile, gaining votes through death is also overpowered. Beast scum, if surviving till Lylo, can win games. But he also mentioned that his vote can reset to 0. So that is moot.

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Because I'm trying to get a read on magua.

The question isn't false, MASTIN'S been calling xombie town all game. Why believe on one and not the other?

How does asking me the question help your read on magua? Oh the question is very misleading. I can answer why for you. If someone else can answer the question easily, that is not a good question. Because magua if scum could find the right answer easily, making it alignment non indicative.

You know I <3 you but there's a reason people are yelling for you not to be taken into jail tonight even though you're probably town with a strong role.

"People" only consists of pooba who has finally conceded that I'm town.

So, that's not convincing.


Neither is MASTIN calling xombie town. She was apeshit about AP town too. But her new 100% guarantee, could probably be taken more seriously.

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fair point. But she also has bitmap as "confirmed" town and

Magua as more town than you


Do you feel vindicated???????? By magua more town than you (according to mastin), do you???

[Metal Sonic]

I'd think you would be indignant when magua ranks higher in mastin's reads than you

[Metal Sonic]

She's super wrong about me, so it's weird, but it's whatever.

The bitmap one is whatever, but the zzzx and xombie ones are based on neighborhood and role stuff apparently.

that mastin is wrong about me isn't the point, and it would probably be less weird if he was trusting the xombie read (who has actual real town sounding posts) over zzzx who has not done anything. But it's the inverse, and that makes no sense to me.

Yeah well my point is that mastin's reads pre "lol 100% town" were difficult to believe for this reason and it is OKAY to overlook mastin's magic "xombie conftown" read.

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I'd think you would be indignant when magua ranks higher in mastin's reads than you

Also people who don't know me shouldnt guess at what I'd be indignant at. I've never gotten frustrated at someone being read as more town than me. Reading me as town when I'm town is good enough.

Not frustrated even when you're taking heavy from magua?

[Metal Sonic]

Because mastin emphasized zzzx town way more than xombie town

[Metal Sonic]

Anyway I'm out. Peace.

<3 tammy

[Metal Sonic]

^ thanks for telling us that TSO might be town or scum

[Metal Sonic]

Oh my gods the neener neener has me laughing so fucking hard right now I want to call magua town just from that.

nice catchphrase magua, hahaha

[Metal Sonic]

Spoiler: Yesterday's wagon interaction on Peregrine

Vote: Peregrine

I'd love a flashwagon but not on myself or Beast. I don't know why the Vyse wagon derailed - his replace-out doesn't make sense.

is anyone up for a TD speedlynch

pedit: my man this question is just fr you

VOTE: peregrine

is anyone up for a TD speedlynch

I'm not.

I am, and I think anyone reading his switch from you to the mastin wagon should also be.

nope!
let's lynch peregrine.

I'd love to hear why you're not.

Do we have to lynch Peregrine? He's a completely null read.

yes.

No, I don't particularly feel like Peregrine. My apologies.

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

i'll type up a town case when i have time.
why not compromise on a null read? TD isn't getting lynched today.

Hey guys, having problems irl, don't want it to spill over in to game, but don't REALLY have time to post right now. I've looked terrible this game and this move is not going to help. I think cephrir is scum UNVOTE: VOTE: cephrir I'll try to explain this when I get back, promise.

I think Cephrir's scum!

1579+1580=cephrir scum. He responds to my same post in two different, both derogatory ways. He planned and wanted to respond and make sure I got shut down and lumped in as scum with ace, he also forgot he had already done so, not town play. See, ace has been incredibly scummy, but he can't be scum as long is cephrir is unless we are in multiball, so cephrir is the lynch.

Still going with Cephrir-scum!

I do not like this interaction Sam-I-Am. Note to self, Stick-With-Your-Gut, and logic and everyone else be damned. VOTE: Solar Wind

My gut said it was Solar Wind all along!

Ceph is almost certainly town at this point.

Cephrir is so town!

Ceph and solars talk was crappy, Solars vote and unvote stinks of scum trying to make something happen and backing off quickly when it doesn't. Ceph's gambit is town.

Ceph town, Solar still scum.

Hi magua! .

And no, no particular reason to have a read on Rach either way, but in my experience scum rach super lurks, though that may just be rach-rach XD.

I would love to lynch mastin today, that would make me happy, it just doesn't seem likely :/.

I support mastin as well!

Ya know what, fuck it this lynch is more likely than a lynch on Solar XD, why the fuck not. VOTE: mastin

Mastin is scum!

Didn't include points on PV but he supports that dying too.

But, even if you feel it's weak - it's still far better than Peregrine.

Because the case on Peregrine is ??? right now and ??? does not lead to a scum lynch.

At the same time, your case on Peregrine is

still

???, and you've clearly been reading the thread! So I'm waiting to be blown away.

Okay.

I am still waiting for why Peregrine is scum.

Not interested in the D1 lynch of anyone I consider to be lynchbait just because they do lynchbait things. That's what makes them lynchbait.

This includes both PeregrineV and TiphaineDeath.

In particular, I see nothing in TSO's 2265 that says TD-scum to me rather than TD-just-being-his-goddamn-normal-self. If anything, TD jumping his reads over like that makes me more likely to read him town because scum just wouldn't need to.

Do want to vote Imperium, though, for pre-emptive buddying, but this is past RVS so I won't even though I should.

Oh, so basically:

My case on TD is, apparently, bad and so we are not doing it.
Your case on PV is, quite clearly, non-existent and yet we ...are doing it?

I'll admit it - the TD case is solidly mediocre. It's still the best thing we've got right now.

TD is town and so we are not doing it. In addition, the case on him is bad.
Peregrine is ??? at BEST and so we are doing it. There is no case on him.

*bashes head through screen*

What you will see if you click above is the interaction once Nacho started to try to push for a Peregrine lynch yesterday. (yes, he backed off, Peregrine pulled that same exact you should lynch me eventually to help town as a town beloved princess in cap com where Nacho and I were scum, we thought he was doing the same thing.)

But, as Nacho starts pushing Pere and Cephrir jumps on, TSO starts ramping up his lets lynch TD, what's the case on Pere. I included the Magua interaction because it's also twitch worthy for the reasoning. He considers Pere lynchbait so he doesn't want a lynch there BUT rachmarie is also lynchbait so I'm not sure why he considered her a fine lynch, so.

Anyway, didn't pick this up in Peregrine's iso but when TSO complained about trying and not getting a TD lynch, I didn't remember him even pushing TD so I looked and voila.

I think this makes him more likely scum. (I'd say definite scum, but in Once Upon a Winter's Night, I thought Beast could be scum for refusing to help me lynch scum Antihero on day one because he didn't like the case on him.)

this is very good. if peregrine wasn't a bomb, T S O would be definite scum. now, he is just probable scum.


also i havent been analyzing T S O but procrastination is king

at least someone else did it for me

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: beast

[Metal Sonic]

3 players have to be replaced

[Metal Sonic]

wanted to same something snarky to tso but decided not to.

so my response is

"whatever cephrir said"

[Metal Sonic]

btw if all 3 picks by farside are town i will be

rather upset

[Metal Sonic]

That was a comedic update.

[Metal Sonic]

lol I see a scumbag

[Metal Sonic]

@fourtrouble

If anyone is scum in my hood it's TWIE, not skybird. But probably all town.

[Metal Sonic]

If it is between skybird and twie I will choose twie



If it is in {twie, skybird, random scummy people} I will remove random scummy people

[Metal Sonic]

That's what I meant.

[Metal Sonic]

That implies that none of the current lynch candidates are scum.

[Metal Sonic]

I can't believe mastin points to the vote count and all the non voters. Suddenly non voters, vote and no one says shit.

I resolve all doubts on farside

Farside is town

[Metal Sonic]

That's not really the right approach to ask mask to do stuff.

[Metal Sonic]

Hey mask, solar wind the stern mommy wants the hammer so she is very angry that you hammered yesterday! Don't hammer again today okay or she will be very angry

[Metal Sonic]

Mask is also very highly town btw, his inspire I don't see from scum

[Metal Sonic]

Mask still nice friend still the end

You make solar wind happy she no angry

[Metal Sonic]

Hey mask, solar wind the stern mommy wants the hammer so she is very angry that you hammered yesterday! Don't hammer again today okay or she will be very angry

MS, why are you telling Mask what the issue was instead of making Mask engage in the game and look it up? I've noticed a couple of instances where you answer questions meant for other people too. What gives?

I do that. I am an "interrupter".

that is not a wrong thing to do

[Metal Sonic]

cops are desperately needed. but it is only day 2. i should practice patience.

[Metal Sonic]

that is hypothetical. it is true that i should learn to shut up. but i find that in mafia, it is better to play unrestrained (or at most not break the rules)

[Metal Sonic]

Lots of long stuff,

Note to self to read

[Metal Sonic]

Skybird you are unusually angry today. Calm down.

[Metal Sonic]

Come back with a fresh mind tomorrow, love and hugs as neighbors, okay?

[Metal Sonic]

love and hugs suck.

who needs 'em?

fuck those.

Specially for you I'll give you some fucks

[Metal Sonic]

Of the three, I think FT would be our biggest loss if he were town.

Best reason ever. I second this. This resolves doubts on xombie. That means lots of town posts.

I like it

[Metal Sonic]

*town points

[Metal Sonic]

I must have been on page two instead of page three. Oops.

My vote could in theory be 0 again tomorrow. It is highly unlikely but it is possible. So to answer your question, no it does not.

Ogzin, can you explain what Beast meant by the possibility of Beast's vote becoming 0? At the time of that post, he has 0.5 votes.

[Metal Sonic]

Is there a maximum limit to your voting number, Ozgin?

[Metal Sonic]

It would be the first time I experience ffery scum if what you postulate is right

[Metal Sonic]

It would be the first time I experience ffery scum if what you postulate is right

1 - her postulate is wrong.

2 - Xenoblade. It was a thing.

Although Anti's posts 4917 and 4926 confuse me, he hit upon some points in that exchange that I had made to f-16 earlier that suggest they could be town. And his explanation of how tth scumhunts explains some things that were bothering me. I'm less concerned after that convo than I was before. We'll both probably laugh occasionally at them now that we think it's possible they're town and just misreading us. or tth is misreading us and whatever it is that Anti is doing.

That's why I used the word "experience"

I did not actually experience ffery scum

Only "seen" ffery scum

[Metal Sonic]

let's crack out the metal sonic scum checklist

>making loser votes that have little chance of success

okay

VOTE: vezokpiraka

Die, scum

VOTE: xombie

check

>weird whiteknighting of someone likely to draw fire

Mastin, you're voting someone that Nacho and I are both reading as town. :/

My read's not changing, but alright, as long as you realize I get MASSIVE "I told you so" rights postgame if I'm right.

Vote: -Blonde-

.

Why are you voting blonde? Please don't do that.

@metal!

MS: what is wrong with voting blond?

blonde is town. voting him is wrong.

check

>doing fuck all the process

check

metal. sonic. is. scum. here.

the "gambits" are done in the most perfunctory and "bleh" way possible and they're not fooling me

So what is this?

[Metal Sonic]

Right. You proved your own point with a self example.


So, heartless is being consistent here. I have no issues.

[Metal Sonic]

i just caught up on the heartless vs solar wind mini episode


i really like #4884 a lot A LOT.

in return, heartless's #4905 is nice, #4918 too

[Metal Sonic]

Ceph freely admits that as town, he wades into lines of questioning. But he also said that in Tales while manipulating my and Titan's interactions. So, it is not just that he invades people's lines of questioning, it is more his intent behind the invasion.

I am still trying to stop doing this. I can't help myself sometimes. I like being heard and I know that I won't remember to say whatever I was thinking at the time if I sit on it until the conversation is over.

we should hydra

[Metal Sonic]

Currently, I think there's a high chance that all three of you are town. You at least fall into the bucket of 'scum player who could be playing well'.
- TD's roleblock and the fact that he hasn't even voted one of the two counter wagons makes him town
- I had a mild 'town because he doesn't care' on beast throughout and Oz's switch on you sounded genuine

This is the biggest bullshit explanation I've heard, ever. Earlier, you agreed with farside's 3 choices for scum. Yet now we're all town? Okay. Sure.

TD's roleblock didn't mean shit to you when you told farside you agreed with her 3 choices. So that's bullshit.

Re: beast -- you're spouting more bullshit. You've been gearing up to vote him all day, all the way until farside used her role. When farside asked you 3 players who you think are scum, beast was one of them. Even before that, you said you'd be happy joining a wagon on beast. Yet when farside finally uses her role, you vote me? That "mild town" on beast throughout is bull fucking shit, man.

Ooba's scum. This post, right here, is a 100% bullshit attempt to justify voting me. And it certainly doesn't square with anything he's said about me, TD, or beast the entirety of this Day.

Hm.

I eagerly await a response to this.

2nd

[Metal Sonic]

@Cephrir
As long as you don't disappear during the game, I would be excited to hydra with you unless you do. Then

[Metal Sonic]

Oh that reminds me.

Solar Wind when you posted the vote count you mentioned something about whether or not Ozgin has a vote. He has 1 full vote now.

Congrats on your best town performance award.

Do we lose ours? Oh well year after year

[Metal Sonic]

-Happy scumday, MS.
-I

may

have obligations on the teams already since I got asked. (I forget the full team, would need the PMs to confirm, but I THINK it was Mara, notscience, and someone else.)
-As you can tell by my commentary, nope, nothing to say about the posting right now.

Thanks. Wow, it's been TWO years!!

Time FLIES!!

[Metal Sonic]

if td flips scum i will


touch myself

[Metal Sonic]

it appears that td is 9/12 right now but vote messy may mean differently

[Metal Sonic]

Vig should shoot Ceph or Mastin.

???

[Metal Sonic]

Magua got his scummie replaced


I preferred the most enjoyable player

In all honesty I got kind of jaded after seeing best town scummie above my head for a year

[Metal Sonic]

I was talking to myself haha

[Metal Sonic]

I haven't read the previous pages yet. What's with the "shoot mastin or cephrir " comment?

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: fourtrouble

[Metal Sonic]

What the hell is pulling a Sonic

[Metal Sonic]

*Sonic Defense*

[Metal Sonic]

HOLY CRAP
Andrius replaces RachMarie.
what a fucking GOD
(haha, get it?)

YES

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Metal Sonic]

ONE MORE, DRAM

ONE MORE

[Metal Sonic]

Don't be the hero this game deserves. Be the one it needs right now. (Read the thread.)

Would you be terribly upset if I only read D1? (115 pages IIRC)

Day 2 is better than day 1

[Metal Sonic]

"Too moronic to be scum"

[Metal Sonic]

scum probably have fake role pms and i doubt that they would come up with something as bullshit as "oh lol my ulti is a weakness"

though i may be wrong

[Metal Sonic]

these replacements tho

ozgin, why are you assuming you will be alive tomorrow, that seems very unlikely

I'm not, but what's the point of surviving if I reveal something that will just end up fucking me over in the long run, hmm?

I mean, if it really is a fact of life that I'm dead tonight, fine, but I'm not gonna jump off a sinking ship when I won't be able to swim to safety anyways.

I'd pretty much just sooner die and take my ult to the death message than save my skin just to have it turned on me right after. If you really need my ultimate claim to think I'm town, then we're all doomed already, because that kind of stubbornness isn't going to help us make progress.

this is a town post

[Metal Sonic]

This was TiphaineDeath's first major post of the game, with main pushbacks being against FT and Solar Wind. Both of these players had become as close to universally town read as you possibly can early game, and I generally love when pl!years push back hard against the status quo whether I agree with the read or not because it generates a lot of attention (and, interestingly enough, is the main reason people are pushing on him now).

This post is his first major town read, which is on vezok for making a series of posts that are "too easy to jump on". I find this a pretty unlikely reason to give from scum as a reason to town read someone in most cases, but it seems especially town from someone who often serves as lynchbait because he's finding something that happens most often to himself (doesn't temper the ridiculous shit he's saying as town, gets lynched) and using it as a way to read another player. I don't see the scum motivation in providing a read in this way, but town motivation is obvious.

This shift from aceofspades to Cephrir seems town as shit: the worry about looking bad for a move seems genuine (and why would he out it if talking about a scum partner? and if it looks bad because he's moving away from a scum partner, why the fuck would he say that aloud?) and is the opposite of an opportunistic move as he shifted from major wagon with support on lynchbait to a wagon that very distinctly was not lynchbait.

This claim is stupidly stupidly and seeing its existence and tiphaine still getting me votes pisses me off. 1) People claiming they are responsible for lack of kill with conviction is town. The only reason they are scum is if they are setting up a no kill gambit or they are coached into claiming responsibility. TD would not be the leader of a scumteam who decides "we are going to no kill tonight and I am going to claim responsibility". Second, the scumteam is not going to have their scum roleblocker claim honestly on Night 1: roleblocker is far and above the most important role for a scumteam to possess in a role madness game and putting tiphaine in this position is essentially the scumteam cutting both of its arms off. Thirdly, TD's reasoning makes complete fucking sense if town: if scum, they had TD target a town player who screamed "don't target me, don't target me" pretty much the entirety of yesterday, thus doing pretty much the only thing they could possibly do to cast doubt on something that would otherwise be a pretty gotcha claim? No. They fucking would not.

nacho did something similar to this in Capcom crossover and he was scum. his target was the opposite of the role he posited in the case.

[Metal Sonic]

Out of all 3 wagons

Ft has not claimed, not even mildly partially.


We should actually force it out.


Based on recent games it is possible that the way of play of ft can be scum. It's just that I am blind to such scum, cannot detect them.

[Metal Sonic]

Well, shit.

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: td

More useless than ozgin potentially

[Metal Sonic]

Espeonage replaces Bitmap.

<333

[Metal Sonic]

Espeonage. Use your portal on me. Now.

or the earlier the better

[Metal Sonic]

ps: i am conftown

[Metal Sonic]

me

[Metal Sonic]

hello andy long time no see

we missed you so

<3

[Metal Sonic]

um

i need espeonage to commute me before the day ends

[Metal Sonic]

and since espeonage replaced in deadline is extended

[Metal Sonic]

so it would be real nice if you could wait

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: andrius

[Metal Sonic]

If you are playing LoL with the mod how do you check this thread

dont feed >:

[Metal Sonic]

@MS: We should chat if you can. You are completely town as far I am concerned atm.

COMMUTE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Metal Sonic]

@MS: We should chat if you can. You are completely town as far I am concerned atm.

COMMUTE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

PORTAL ME PORTAL ME PORTAL ME PORTAL ME

[Metal Sonic]

I don't think I can.

FFFFFFFFFFFFF----

[Metal Sonic]

everybody has a sad ending today

[Metal Sonic]

except f16

[Metal Sonic]

And if I'm killed overnight I'm going to be upset.

not you, me. i'm n1 conftown scumkiller who is a sitting duck and cant activate my self pgo cause i took 1 for the team

[Metal Sonic]

if you couldnt portal me then there wasnt anything left to do

[Metal Sonic]

sonic readlists

town

2. Metal Sonic
23.

Bitmap

Espy
7. TheWayItEnds
13. Solar Wind (F-16_Fighting_Falcon and fferyllt)
3. Mastin2
12. Farside22
21. Magua
25. Heartless (TellTaleHeart and Antihero) < ----- because governor claim
Cephrir <---- PR claim

not null but dont know

22. vezokpiraka (Gun to head: scum) <- if your protect is legit you go to town
Imperium (Gun to head:

town

scum

???)
6. Beastcharizard < ---- his vote PR looks towny but bad play (gun to head: town)
9. Ooba (gun to head: scum)
5. Theaceofspade (gun to head: town)
TiphaineDeath (gun to head: town)
14. FourTrouble (gth: scum)

null

17.

RachMarie

Andy

scum (i have too little scumreads this list is suspiciously empty

20. T S O
19. Ankamius ( a bit too long on my null list bro)

PeregrineV

protected by someone

18. The Mask (Guarantor: Cephrir)
8. ZZZX (Guarantor: Mastin2)
Xombie (Guarantor: Mastin2)
Skybird (Guarantor: Metal Sonic)

[Metal Sonic]

@ Sonic, Vezok said he would protect you anyways.

fuck if i trust vezok and his protection

even if he was legit, there could be a strongman

[Metal Sonic]

if you couldnt portal me then there wasnt anything left to do

I played in to capcom, I could have done the same thing here. There is so much to consume that I need time in thread to sift through and they purposefully took that opportunity away.

the plan was for somebody to replace bitmap, you portal me (and it looks like it ran out ), and i give you a++ grade sparknotes for the entirety of the game


that plan was halted

[Metal Sonic]

predit: I trustr vezok. You should too.

okay. but if theres a rolemadness without a strongman...

then i am happy

[Metal Sonic]

hey nice new avatar btw

[Metal Sonic]

do you have access w/ me to the previous neighborhood, you should request for it

[Metal Sonic]

he wanted to talk with me before i died, maybe?

[Metal Sonic]

Thanks, you should thank caled.

Bitmap evidently left out I can't do the same person twice in a row. But we can chill again sometime.

Pedit: I have the old chat.

yeah, he evidently left that out. well he'd rather leave out bad news than tell me straight in the face huh.


if you can still use your ability, andy would be a fun partner

or nacho

though nacho might manipulate you possibly

[Metal Sonic]

if we both survive till tomorrow i've got a plan

i also have something niggling at the back of my mind that is probably evil paranoia

[Metal Sonic]

Nacho can't manipulate me one on one if I'm focused. In a full thread where I'm over my head then yeah, but one on one is different.

thats good. for me its the other way round. I tend to be more gullible in one on one

[Metal Sonic]

i have nothing to add.

i hope i survive the night

[Metal Sonic]

well

beast did many things to look like scum

you, not so much. a bit too late though.

[Metal Sonic]

What the hell lmao

[Metal Sonic]

That escalated quickly

Also note to self paranoia is stupid sonic is better than paranoia

[Metal Sonic]

It's a very boggling role


Does dram want to win best setup or something lol

[Metal Sonic]

I don't think Ceph dies, from what I can tell about F-16's role.

It expires at Twilight. Twilight is after lynch so Ceph will die if we lynch Oz.

So effectively, we could have had two lynches per day with this role. [Apart from some town\scum roles that couldn't be loverized, I'm guessing]

What a powerful role! I wish I had got that. Also, I can't even begin to speculate about what scum might have to compensate.

OHHHHHHHHHH

[Metal Sonic]

ooba is highly scum suspect so you might want to be careful with that

[Metal Sonic]

That is literally the same words ozgin said

[Metal Sonic]

If you guys really won't FourTrouble, I guess I'll VOTE: TiphaineDeath,

But I don't think I or Beast did anything to look like scum, and I know that my slot is town-aligned, so I'm gonna fight to the end. Gonna ISO TD, try to find something of evidence, if I can't I'll have to find evidence against someone else to convince you guys, I dunno.

So much frustrate!

[Metal Sonic]

on phone now so can't troll you with EVERYBODY LOVES KUNG FU FIGHTING vid

[Metal Sonic]

I still think chances Oz flips scum are much higher than chances TD flips scum.

...and i think they're both p close to zero...

Want to flip FT just because?

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: ft

[Metal Sonic]

not happening metal sonic. apparently ft is everyone's houseplant.

'mkay, i'm ending the day

He was mine too. Then I thought that one less plant is okay



Unless houseplant has a meaning that I do not understand

[Metal Sonic]

i'm ending the day and killing td, you have anything else to say in the game thread?

So, you have a daykill too?

[Metal Sonic]

i COULD vote ft, but it would just be because i think he's annoying and has shitty reads and that's not really a good reason

It's a good reason I vote people all the time for that

[Metal Sonic]

i'm ending the day and killing td, you have anything else to say in the game thread?

So, you have a daykill too?

kinda' sorta' not really

I'm going to begin PoEing

FT makes sense as a sidelines tangential scum


Of course, he could be town. But YOLO

[Metal Sonic]

I don't actually know why I am voting FT

I don't actually find him scummy

But if he were scum, he'd be the kind of player that I can't catch

And he seems to be not heads or tails

[Metal Sonic]

poe at this stage of the game is shit

It's a 3 people choose 1


Not very shit

[Metal Sonic]

poe at this stage of the game is shit

It's a 3 people choose 1


Not very shit

just b/c farside chose them doesn't mean one of them has to be scum

Eenie meenie miney mo


Who will give us really bad paranoia later if he is not lynched today?

[Metal Sonic]

hmm looks like FT


YOLO

[Metal Sonic]

It's a very boggling role


Does dram want to win best setup or something lol

I actually won best setup in 2010 with Tarot Mafia.

5th year anniversary then?

[Metal Sonic]

where did I say that it would be a less useful conversation?

[Metal Sonic]

TWIE and skybird,

If you two are good honest people and neighbors then I implore the both of you to check our good at night

Much thanks

[Metal Sonic]

hood

[Metal Sonic]

Eenie meenie miney mo


Who will give us really bad paranoia later if he is not lynched today?

No stranger to paranoia and I would normally agree with this if it were later in the game.
But it's not.

IMO, FT is one of our strongest players if town so I'd think scum has just as much incentive to kill him.
If it were later game and he were still alive, yeah, I'd probably let the paranoia run wild but D2?

I agreed with you

But currently he is the best (only) option we have of the 3

So i have already considered your concern and have made this decision

[Metal Sonic]

Fts reaction is a scum reaction

I shit you not

But of course he could just be like this all the time normally as town, that's where meta is helpful