Mgm's Egypt Mafia - Over

[Albert B. Rampage]

If the majority of the town can agree, you can make a group decision to revive a lynched or murdered player. Until that time, roles will not be revealed upon death.

We can revive a lynched or murdered player if the majority votes for it ? How many times can we do this ? Can mafia kill themselves to get revived ? When is the alignment revealed ? After a second death ? After the exhaustion of the revival ability ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Thoth, its Egyptian name ḏiḥautī, and the first player with a reserved spot, is an Egyptian deity with the head of a bird. I would like to hear the thoughts of this player on the hieroglyphics. Is he a PC ?

Also, after the revival ceremony, will all roles will be revealed at death ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

We start in day or night ? Do we have to formally vote for the revival ? Will this be Rampage's last set of questions ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why don't we just revive the people who have important rolls, like the Doc, or Cop?

Because we don't know who is cop doc and whatnot.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think he means, we could wait until someone claims a power role and gets nightkilled, and then bring him back from the dead. That might not be a bad idea, although it could mean waiting a few days before we revive.

I don't approve of that, scum could just as easily claim a power role and get revived, wasting the revival.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Confirmed, PM received, ready to go.

About that revive... Reviving someone nightkilled rather than someone lynched makes sense, obviously, and we can probably afford to wait until after there's been a couple of nightkills too. If the mafia are ballsy enough to kill one of their own and try to direct a revive on that person, then even if they succeed... they've traded a nightkill for the revive, same as if they nightkilled a townie and we revived (and with the added bonus that the mafia will have had to commit themselves in order to direct that person being revived). I ain't worried about reviving a scum, in other words.

Good points.

[Albert B. Rampage]

vote: gamestart

I see all this talk about when to use the revive to be fairly pointless outside of the in game context of who the revival is being posed for, hence I don't believe further discussion on this matter to be fruitful, and since nobody seems to be talking about anything else, we might as well start the game.

I agree 100%

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why is he leaving us hanging ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

What's the first one ? Who died ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: Zindaras

[Albert B. Rampage]

What is it ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

How did you read "Yosarian" ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think we should revive Yos. He's a good player, and he might have some abilities. Add in the fact that we won't know who dies until we use our revive ability. It's way too dangerous to revive a claimed cop when we aren't even sure there is a cop, or if the power role claim is even true.

Revive: Yosarian2

[Albert B. Rampage]

I am fairly confident that after we use our revival ability, all roles will be revealed at death.

Too big. Get a replacement!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Which to deal with first?

Reviving Yos: I'm still on the fence here. Turning this into a cop head start has its allure, but everyone seems to be ignoring the possibility scum killed one of there own, knowing the role wouldn't be revealed, and are now trying to pull a gambit to get us to use our only revive on one of them.

We've already discussed in length the possibilities of mafia killing eachother. First of all, in normal mafia games, mafia aren't allowed to kill eachother. Second of all, even if they killed one of their own, we are just back at square one.

We definitely should revive Yos.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We definitely should revive Yos.

We definitely should NOT revive Yos, and while I could certainly forgive a "let's revive Yos!" meme, it's interesting that when someone says they're violently opposed you completely ignore it and just press harder to try for a quickrevive (to coin a phrase).

There's also good tactical reasons for not reviving at the first opportunity, but that's not my reasoning here. I have role-based information that reviving Yos would be bad. If the town requires, I will explain in depth, but that isn't required at this point in time.

unvote, vote Albert

Any particular reason for being so revive-happy?

I've already stated the reasons in detail. Now explain

your

reasons and I will unvote if I find them valid.

[Albert B. Rampage]

RafK, now that the mafia knows you have this kind of information, what if they kill you and you can't reveal to us that information ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're pretty much saying "we have to revive Yos because we're not 100% sure you're town", and that's just false.

You don't even gain any information from reviving Yos at this point- there isn't even any other dead people,

so there's not even a good argument for it at this point.

We would only gain information starting from tomorrow (and that's only if we do start getting roles revealed as soon as we use the group revive, which is not certain).

This is wrong wrong wrong. You claim that we have nothing to gain from it because we won't gain any information. WRONG! If Yosarian is a power role, he might be the one to protect our necks tonight or investigate a player. Unless that is counter-productive to your agenda ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Nightson

- this is self-explanatory.

[Albert B. Rampage]

FoS YB, Nightson, Zindaras

Providing no explanation whatsoever for their posts.

[Albert B. Rampage]

FOS: Albert

for the mass OMGUS.

WTF. They did not give any explanations AT ALL. WTF is wrong with you ?!?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lmao. And what's that ???

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fuck it. I'm tired of you people. I claim cop. I got a guilty verdict on Nightson.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'd suggest not claiming your name today.

That's fine.

During pre-game, you appear to broadly agree with RafK about waiting until there's a couple of nightkills before deciding who to revive. Then day comes, and all of a sudden you seem desperate to revive Yos:

I didn't want the mafia to know we would revive someone day 1.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote revive

, might as well keep it for myself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because you thought they might no-kill in that scenario? Or something else?

Just in case. I was spreading misinformation to influence their night plans.

As for Nightson, he was instrumental in deciphering the hieroglyphs, so I wanted to make sure he was town. I found out he wasn't.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We have to discuss who believes me, who doesn't, what course of action to take. It is perfectly FINE to vote Nightson as long as everybody has said what they wanted to say before he is lynched.

[Albert B. Rampage]

RafK, now that the mafia knows you have this kind of information, what if they kill you and you can't reveal to us that information ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why not answer the question, RafK ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Okay and you say you can't tell us the nature of your warning because it might reveal your role...?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm egyptologist Howard Carter (the one who discovered King Tut's tomb) and Albert is either lying or insane (nonsane cop).

Albert. Flavor claim. Now.

Not so fast. There needs to be a majority that agrees. And I am suspicious of your claim, even tough flavor doesn't necessarily always make sense.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This sounds awfully like a trap to me, but I will oblige if necessary.

[Albert B. Rampage]

09329128974231866434654821117490

29534769246882460612408624094276

14321911210614323040624013152545

3.2.2.3.2.2/2.2.2.2.2.2./2.2.2

My flavor is encoded in this post. Now tell us everything you know, Nightson.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If I am lying I command you all to lynch me immediately. Give us your information now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nightson, if your information is genuine, then you have nothing to fear from me. Both our informations will confirm eachother. However, if one of us is lying, the town will capture one assured scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You can change your "information" whenever you wish. If I flavor claim, there is no guarantee you will give us the information you promised.

[Albert B. Rampage]

EDBWOP" Wait a second, confirm me? Did you or did you not get a guilty investigation on me, how on earth is the supposed to confirm me?

I said your information will confirm my flavor. I didn't say it would confirm our alignment.

Look, Nightson, I'm not stalling, you are. You have a guilty investigation. You are on the chopping block. If you do not reveal your claimed information, you will be lynched regardless.

[Albert B. Rampage]

For all I know you could have a role that needs knowledge of someone's flavor. I am under no pressure to do anything for you. Either you reveal your information and I give you the key to access my encrypted flavor, or you can send my regards to the underworld.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think we have a standoff here. Each gives the appearance of believing that the other will change his story based on what they themselves reveal.

I have already coded my flavor, how can I change anything ??

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hahaha

Die.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I took it to be you just posting nonsense. If you confirm that this is your actual full flavor then I'll reveal my information.

I confirm.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I am

Khepri

,

Scarab God

09329128974231866434654821117490

29534769246882460612408624094276

14321911210614323040624013152545

3.2.2.3.2.2/2.2.2.2.2.2./2.2.2

My flavor is encoded in this post. Now tell us everything you know, Nightson.

Look at the last of the 3 lines, "14321911210614323040624013152545".

If you seperate the numbers with the 4rth line, you will get this:

143/21/91/121/06/14 32/30/40/62/40/13 15/25/45

143 means the 14th letter of the 3rd post, in this case a "k". 21 is the 2nd letter of the 1st post, a "h". Etc.

[Albert B. Rampage]

EBWOP

The post numbers are counted by viewing my posts exclusively. So the 2nd letter of my 1st post would be "h".

For now,

unvote

.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've re-read my role again; it was worded in a way that doesn't confirm sane results. To paraphrase, I will get either a guilty or a innocent result every night. The flavor is I'm the one to push the sun, and am master of the dawn. It might or might not make sense for me to be insane.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nightson's information was convincing and I'm awfully terrified at the thought we just exposed three power/informational roles day 1

[Albert B. Rampage]

Good and evil. I presume "good" means the forces that wish to build egypt into a stronger country, and "evil" means the forces that want to harm it. Howard Carter could then be seen as evil. I think Zindaras was right on when he spoke of miller.

Oh dear lord...
Can

someone

please help me understand why a god associated with rebirth would be a cop?
You could at least have claimed Necromancer or something...

To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

My guess would be that the flavour has Khepri checking up on the forces of death whilst rolling the sun through the underworld, or something.

Can we please let Albert answer this for himself?

I just got done with DotA mafia on MTGS, where a scum- Primate, as it happens- falseclaimed cop and faked a guilty investigation on a townie. The next morning, obviously, I'm like "Better have a good explanation for that, I think you're lying scum" and some cleared townie comes up with an amazing explanation of why the alleged scum wouldn't have done that if he was scum, and clearly there was a mistake, and voting for him was incredibly scummy. The scum didn't even have to defend himself, a townie did it all for him. I was lynched that day instead, because leaping all over a proved liar is obviously scummy

My point is, make people explain themselves.

There was no question directed at me.

RafK, we are still waiting for answers. Why shouldn't we revive Yosarian ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't see any viable reason why RafK cannot tell us if Yosarian is scum, if he's going to be reincarnated as a mummy or what-not.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What if RafK turns scum ? Then what ? Are we to assume Yosarian was good for the town, or part of a rival mafia group ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah, true. It just annoys me to think that Yosarian is the pharaoh who has amazing powers or something.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Phoebus, why are you still voting to revive Yosarian ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Will you unvote now or would you rather still have Yosarian be revived ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nanook, Pinky, Niempie, YogurtBandit are a few I can think of.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Dung god still here

[Albert B. Rampage]

I actually revealed my own flavor. Your guess is as good as mine if we are going to go into details.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote YogurtBandit

Seems he just wants the day to get over asap without paying attention to the thread..

[Albert B. Rampage]

So what's up with Thok, we didn't hear from him for a while since he was on vacation.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Nanook

with VD's line of thought.[/i]

[Albert B. Rampage]

Today is deadline!!! We need to lynch someone!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Someone needs to decipher that, looks like it was an eventful night...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nightson, did you find anything suspicious last night ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Good. On my side, I received another guilty result, which I doubt at this point. I'm going to shoot from the paranoid angle at this point. I find it a bit disturbing that none of the power roles died.

IH, what did Yosarian have to say ?

RafK, anything new to report ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I got DeliciousGoldfish as guilty. IH, if you had asked Yosarian to claim, maybe we would have had a better idea why we should trust RafK ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Very interesting, indeed I did not get a guilty investigation on Nightson. My true ability is
that I know who targets me at night. I assumed Nightson was scum trying to murder me. Eh, sorry.

I also have a secondary ability I can use right now in the middle of the day to confirm my identity, although either something very good or very bad will come of it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Furthermore, I don't think its a good idea to revive anyone yet. We still have 4 power roles alive. I say we should revive tomorrow.

And I can prove that I win when all evil in Egypt is gone. One of the reasons I felt like I was allowed to claim cop was that I can confirm my identity if need be, at any time in the day (with a few exceptions).

[Albert B. Rampage]

I can prove that I am not scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Here's the kicker, I need to have 0 votes on me for 12 hours before I can use my ability to make the mod make a public announcement that will prove that I am not scum.

This is how it goes, really. I'm not kidding. As soon as I use my ability, the mod is going to prove I am town. I can't go in the details.

I know this sounds extremely stupid, but its true. You can put votes back on me after I use my ability.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're not going to lose anything, really. If you don't believe it, if you think its a trick by the time I show you my "proof", lynch me on the spot. But at least allow me to try and convince you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yo there's still a lot of time before deadline, like 2 weeks. What is 12 hours to you ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Alright then, maybe a month before he even mentions a deadline then. The point is that all I need is a little time to show you my bona fide.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I may lose my other ability if I use this one. But I think its the only way to clear me, so I will ask YB, you and RafK to unvote me, and no one else to vote me for 12 hours.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote to revive: Thoth

in the possibility that RafK was lying.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I am not an anti-town role.

Vote to revive: Thoth

in the possibility that RafK was lying.

He said he had role information that something you said was a lie. You then admitted it was a lie. Why would you think he is lying?

It is possible that he said so without knowing that I lied.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're right. But it will also be instrumental in knowing if RafK can trust his ability or not. If Yosarian is town, RafK is not necessarily scum, but we know that we can't depend on his ability too much. Might be a 50% success thing. I think we should revive someone.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who do you find scummiest, excluding all power roles Fonz ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nightson, I think I can trust you too, what are your thoughts on Thot, Nanook and YB ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote revive: Thoth

Yeah I think we should keep it to revive RafK, IH or Nightson at a later time.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Okay here we go.

Vote PBuG/DeliciousGoldfish

I am Khepri, like I have said earlier. Every even days, I have the option of speeding up a bandwagon and push the sun to make day go into night. This will result in the lynch of the player with the most votes on him(it doesn't work if there are two players with equal votes). This ability comes with increasing risks the more I use it. I assume that the first time around, I will use my ability to see who targeted me, and the second time might result in my death. Or maybe the first time is free, who knows..

If I understand correctly, by activating this ability, we are now in twilight, ladies and gentlemen. DG has left this world with one vote on her.

[Albert B. Rampage]

EBWOP

I might lose the use of my ability to see who targeted me*

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't think DG was a bad kill. We got very little information from them even at this time.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Its not too late. Who do you want me to kill ? I don't have much time.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also, I think that my ability is very important for the town in order to not have a repeat of day 1, who went completely wasted.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why ? I am defenseless on day 3, anyway, so have RafK investigate me. I already stated I am pro-town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Once again, he didn't investigate me. He said I lied when I said "I got a guilty investigation on nightson."

[Albert B. Rampage]

We are in twilight anyway.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I didn't get an investigation.

[Albert B. Rampage]

To save myself, of course.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Doesn't really matter since RafK can ask if I am pro-town if you don't believe me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why would you direct a vig to kill a power role ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm baaaack!

I don't think we should lynch Albert either

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mafia wouldn't have an ability like mine - too powerful. Therefore, I must be town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm sorry and won't make another mistake ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

EBWOP

drop the question mark at the end of my last post

[Albert B. Rampage]

You already voted me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You already voted me too.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well I figured you were scum and I was wrong - that's why I backed off so quickly. As for the second part, I figured there was going to be some sort of reference to me. Again, I was mistaken.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes, and I discredited myself calling meself paranoid. What I did was ill-advised for sure.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I would've killed you, but chose to eradicate a lurker to prevent replacing instead.

[Albert B. Rampage]

(shrug)

I guess my time has come then. My only chance of proving myself was to kill a mafia, and I failed at that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

How come both Fonz and Thoth were revived ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

In either case, DG was lurking.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Uh, I was talking about the revival of either Fonz or DG.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No, I was advocating the revival of Fonz because we haven't heard DG say anything.

[Albert B. Rampage]

In either case, DG was lurking.

I was speaking about this ^

[Albert B. Rampage]

Right, but I would never want to revive DG.