Touhou: MitLoF ~ Makai Mix (Game Over)

[purple hero]

I must be psychic, because I just knew someone was going to bitch about my vote.

no, you're not psychic because the claimed guilty is so obviously fake

[purple hero]

Gaiden confirms that Spring is here.

if this is a fruit vendor, I don't think it's really conclusive. it can also be a scum role

haj, claim please

depends on what gaiden actually got. i think he's implying he got something about spring.

i looked on the touhou wiki: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Lily_White

the character is apparently the herald of spring or something.

i don't know anything about the flavor but if i had to guess it LOOKS like she would be a "light" character.

seems more like a flavor friendly neighbor to me. also very likely to be town, depending on what message gaiden actually got.

GAIDEN: PARAPHRASE THE MESSAGE YOU GOT

[purple hero]

Lolnope.

I'm not getting lynched, today or ever, this game.

Also, making haj claim the type of investigative he is doesn't hurt us. Asking FeiLed to claim doesn't hurt us. Your tunneling however, is not helping anything. If I flipped town, who would you be looking at?

hey jingle

you know what you said about disengaging your brain or something?

you should

like

take your own advice

[purple hero]

i did.

alright, well i'm still thinking at least
feirei's FLAVOR is confirmed

i'm also guessing that's pretty good confirmation since i'm flicking through the touhou wiki and there are clear cut villains who are probably the scumteam of this game

^^^^anyone who knows the flavor: what say you?

[purple hero]

alright, time for jingle posts i guess

[purple hero]

the reason everyone thinks you're faking this is because there was a player who has a reputation of being an idiot, for several reasons, one of which included faking a guilty in this game and pushing it through to a lynch rather than analyzing the reactions from it:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=33008
and everyone in this game believes you're an alternate account of the player who did it. (especially bc your attitude in this game has been very similar to the attitude this player generally takes in games)

I don't particularly think you'd lie about this, but I feel like if you fullclaimed a lot of the animosity towards this would disappear. it might not necessarily be *optimal*, but it would be better than everyone running around and continuing to ignore you over it.

lol, not the reason at all

regardless of if he's actually wake or not, haj CLEARLY thinks A LOT of his reads. just looking at the type of posting he's made in the latter part of day 1, he comes off as EXACTLY the kind of player who would fake a guilty.

sorry, but that's current site meta for ya'

[purple hero]

then haj is insane cop, meaning that town will come off as scum and vice versa. Or paranoid, which means everyone comes off as scum.

thats all im getting from this.

lol?

when was the last time an insane cop was used........

...

anywhere?

2009?

[purple hero]

Pieguy, if you're wanting to treat haj's claim as a true guilty, why did you unvote?

what's the point of needling pie here?

[purple hero]

the reason everyone thinks you're faking this is because there was a player who has a reputation of being an idiot, for several reasons, one of which included faking a guilty in this game and pushing it through to a lynch rather than analyzing the reactions from it:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=33008
and everyone in this game believes you're an alternate account of the player who did it. (especially bc your attitude in this game has been very similar to the attitude this player generally takes in games)

I don't particularly think you'd lie about this, but I feel like if you fullclaimed a lot of the animosity towards this would disappear. it might not necessarily be *optimal*, but it would be better than everyone running around and continuing to ignore you over it.

lol, not the reason at all

regardless of if he's actually wake or not, haj CLEARLY thinks A LOT of his reads. just looking at the type of posting he's made in the latter part of day 1, he comes off as EXACTLY the kind of player who would fake a guilty.

sorry, but that's current site meta for ya'

now that i think about it... here's a list of recent games i've been in with fake guilties:

revolution
suburban warfare
quickness

so, literally ever large theme i've been in in the last four months minus the wire

[purple hero]

ok.... the ONLY thing that would make me think the guilty is real is feirei taking this "insane or paranoid cop" angle

[purple hero]

now that i think about it... here's a list of recent games i've been in with fake guilties:

revolution
suburban warfare
quickness

so, literally ever large theme i've been in in the last four months minus the wire

i misspoke. serum and steel had no fake guilties

still more than half

[purple hero]

were they all metal? lol. metal fakeclaimed in suburban and quickness I think.

quickness was slandaar
revolution was sal
suburban was metal

[purple hero]

I think notty was really weird nk. no1 seems to want to talk about this.

happy enough w/ gamestate and/or pr hunting probably

[purple hero]

so

where are all the great happy feelings on sakura coming from?

idgi

[purple hero]

Jingle (3): Ankamius, Curiosity, nopointinactingup

2/3 vote parkers

this bodes well

[purple hero]

new theory:

om is scum and was getting turbobussed earlier

[purple hero]

oh hey wis

[purple hero]

so... regardless of if the guilty is faked or not

feireicaled might actually be scum

[purple hero]

there are several reasons for Jakuzure scum that are not limited to this potential guilty. their reaction to this whole thing was one of them. over the course of this game day, they have flip flopped between haj VI, haj newb-scum, and haj lol town role who got a fake guilty on them.

I don't believe the latter one in particular is a stance they could hold. they're full of shit

yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh

that's the page i'm on right now

[purple hero]

or there at least wouldn't be, if ppl like Wisdom and Anti weren't playing to this site meta of allowing fake guilties

hey,

i

didn't create that problem

[purple hero]

VOTE: jakuzure

[purple hero]

GODDAMN IT

i was doing so well

[purple hero]

At not slipping or this game?

i don't know beast

let's put on our thinking caps and use
CONTEXT CLUES

how long has it been since 7th grade?

[purple hero]

/sigh

sry, beast

[purple hero]

oh wait one scum unvoted

yep

[purple hero]

GODDAMN IT

i was doing so well

The claim and Gaiden's confirmation makes me doubt Jakuzure is scum.

THAT

THAT WAS PAGES AGO WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT FLAVOR
jlk;fdjsa;lfjds;lajf;lkdsafs;lsF

Hi. Please note that I'm not on the wagon.


As much as wisdoms posts are hilarious the whole situation is not funny :/

hey metal sonic

do you know how to give lobotomies?

i need one

Now you are really...slipping. HAHAHA

fuck it

it doesn't matter

nothing matters

screw it

It wasn't really a vendor and vendor didn't help explain why Gaiden could confirm. Jakuzure's claim clarified it for me.

...

...





...

somebody please help me

nah

i think short, shallow, and quick breaths until i pass out is better

/passes out

[purple hero]

VOTE: dreams of an absolution

[purple hero]

Under some assumptions pieguy should be conf scum. Assumptions may be wrong. Better than wisdom though

those were SOME assumptions

[purple hero]

i know what his role is

and the mental acrobatics you would have to do for it to yield even a "pseudo-guilty" is completely insane

[purple hero]

i think he's did it because he knew he can get away with it

[purple hero]

also, look at these kills

notty and jingle?

really?
that's weird.

scum are comfortable with this gamestate
and being wrong on a universal townread would account for that.

[purple hero]

What role do you think he has?

i hope you're not talking to me

[purple hero]

The lynch was reached 1 minute before Alchemist21's unvote at #3567.

not
as
crazy
as
it
sounds

[purple hero]

Mara, please unvote me.

nope

also, not mara

[purple hero]

metal

i can't believe you would shove a pieguy wagon on what you had

[purple hero]

I'm simply telling you that we're not town

gotta' love those freudian slips

[purple hero]

metal

Nope.

Pieguy wagon was my thing btw. He was acting weird.

what's this now?

i specifically referenced suburban warfare which metal was in, AND HE RESPONDED TO IT AND ACKNOWLEDGED IT. and i know it was him because you weren't in suburban.

you're now trying to tell me metal didn't have a role in the "pseudo-guilty"

[purple hero]

whoever it is used the BG instead of the cop...


...?

[purple hero]

VOTE: alchemist

i'll take this

[purple hero]

^i'll do that or nopoint

[purple hero]

i also remember thinking that the double vote was antimollie but can't remember why

brb need to sleep I can't think

<----- this is NOT helium-3

this is antihero/ms marangal

mollie is by herself

[purple hero]

I thought I asked this but mebbe I didn't: could you plz clarify as to how you know dreamz role, why did you drop off your push on them and what do you think of zzthing's putting metal in his scum picks and then later stating that they were not town? plus he is ignoring pie's questions completely.like I am not sure what it wld take to lynch scum around here apparently some1 can claim it and people will still dither about it.

if i told you how i knew dreamz role, i would have to claim. not doing that right now. also, the "assumptions might be wrong" qualifier actually kind of makes sense.

who's zzthing?

[purple hero]

I was originally starting to get pretty big townvibes from Alchemist for how he treated Jingle, but I looked back at the game I played with him that ended recently (scumgame) and found that he was quick to bus his partners, so now I'm a lot less certain that this is valid. I'll have to refresh my memory on why I originally got a scumread on him and see if it was consistent.

what's this now?

how is that applicable here? jingle flipped town.

[purple hero]

No. The way he was regarding Jingle looked town at first because his reasoning was weak, yet awkward enough to switch on that it would be as weird scum action to take on someone who has a decent amount of pressure on them.

I checked and noticed he likes to put his scumpartners in the scum side of his reads and is not afraid to bus them if necessary, so him having that type of stance makes more sense if he is scum.

what? still doesn't make sense.

you're still talking about jingle like he might be scum. he's not.

[purple hero]

VOTE: nopoint

yep, i'll take it

[purple hero]

[purple hero]

pie, what exactly is the sphincteritis about alchemist?

[purple hero]

pie, what exactly is the sphincteritis about alchemist?

alchemist unvoting right before dl cos he knew that unzan was already on which you said was not crazy at the time.

i'm asking pie why he thinks alchemist is town

[purple hero]

mollie, between the two fake guilties
and the general frustrated quagmire of a gamestate we're in
, this might be the game that drives me
to insanity

[purple hero]

i'm talking about haj and nati's little stunts

[purple hero]

mollie, between the two fake guilties
and the general frustrated quagmire of a gamestate we're in
, this might be the game that drives me
to insanity

are you 1 of the 2 fake guilties cos so far that is 1 of my understandings so far.

jfkld;sl;fjdkljasl;jdsal;kjlk;djsalkfjk;lsjkfl;jalieuiwopaopfjkmqvlda

ok

what are you misunderstanding?

[purple hero]

what about yours?

my what? did i fake a guilty? no i didn't. i said i knew his role. which i do. no, i will not tell you how since that would require me to claim.

[purple hero]

We're not lynching haj

well he needs to catch a vig bullet then, because the quickhammer+fake guilty and then running away is pretty fucking unacceptable

[purple hero]

Bullshit

I think you are bluffing

you must be mistaking me

for an idiot

[purple hero]

well in his role! he said he was not town so I am unsure as to why you moved your vote. like I cannot think of an investigative role in which you would do that.

so you don't wanna claim, okay! but is d3 and if you have a weak role then *maaaybe* it might be beneficial to town if you were more forthcoming. cos your positioning is weird.

i voted in the first place because i'd just gotten my result and i was more in "are you fucking kidding me?" mode and that's where the vote on metal came from
because i saw the role and i thought "you outed the masons over THIS?"


...though...

i'd kind of like to know how they came to the "pie is prob 3rd party" conclusion

[purple hero]

i was talking to anti. you ninja'd me

lol, you're not going to win a 1v1 with me either, cute boy

[purple hero]

did they say pie might be indie? that is pretty strange coming from an indie unless I am so in the ignorant category that there are a bunch of indies who have competing wcs.

I am not a cop. Pseudo guilty

Suspect he is 3rd party.

[purple hero]

VOTE: dreams

[purple hero]

you mind walking through the dreams townread?

because i don't think it's as great as you think it is

[purple hero]

btw, i think he probably actually thought you were 3p, pie

[purple hero]

he [metal] now knows my role

lolwat? who said that?

[purple hero]

besides that his play this game has been proactive.

lolno

it's actually a carbon copy or organic chemistry

[purple hero]

the only thing I don't get is why he would push me as 3p

i think it's because he really does think you're 3p

[purple hero]

lolno

it's actually a carbon copy or organic chemistry

how?

also, it would not be hard at all for him to deduce what I am from the result he got, not counting any 3p scenario

...the point...

are you proving MY point or yours? also
, what is your's?

[purple hero]

how?

be a contrarian on most of the popular reads
make a lot of noise without actually doing much

[purple hero]

iirc he didn't go against the flow much this game. he pushed Kagami, Jakuzure, Dan, most of which were popular targets. which reads was he deliberately being contrary about?

alchemist
nopoint
om

just off the top of my head

[purple hero]

I could think of a possible town explanation for the 3rd party thing, but you have a point there. I wanna see what he says first

i can think of a better scum explanation

bonus point: it also fits with why he targeted you in the first place

[purple hero]

so mollie why am i the only one voting dreams?

[purple hero]

@Anti, no response to my latest post?

what is it you want a response to?

so mollie why am i the only one voting dreams?

I didn't understand why you left it in the first place. would you like to answer that? cos I am on the player whom you voted after dreamz iirc

because i thought it was POSSIBLE metal sonic just dove headfirst into a bad conclusion, but i looked back and i saw that he was VERY SPECIFIC in saying that pie was probably a 3rd party and it makes sense as a scum motivation for him taking the action in the first place

setup/role spec gives me a little doubt, but that's kind of shitty without a massclaim (which isn't happening right now)

[purple hero]

/sigh

if i'm going to get anywhere and explain anything well i need to out roles (both mine and metal sonics)

[purple hero]

wouldn't expect you to because of the info i have that you (likely) don't

HOW DO I EXPLAIN THIS

fdsajk;js;lkf

[purple hero]

ok
mollie
think for a sec

(not out loud)
what roles would cause someone to claim a "pseudo" guilty?

[purple hero]

or ...out loud maybe....

i don't know

i'm about 90% sure pieguy is really off the mark about metal's role

[purple hero]

what's a wb?

[purple hero]

you're too far out there

simpler

[purple hero]

THEN I HAVE TO CLAIM

[purple hero]

and i have to out metal's role

[purple hero]

i don't even know if this is good myself

i have
doubts

which is part of the reason i dropped it in the first place

[purple hero]

well then.

that whole exchange left us pretty much to where we started off

understand this then

it's high risk

if i'm wrong, i out two roles for nothing
then everyone's going to hate me
and i'll hate myself

[purple hero]

lol

[purple hero]

i'll sleep on it

hell i don't know

maybe metal sonic is a selective SK-hunting scumbag and my initial impression was right
or i'm just a fucking idiot and everything i say is stupid

[purple hero]

that was mean and I am sorry.

I guess I think you should not be so hard on yourself. STAHP THE SELF-FLAGELLATION.

too late, already got the whip out

[purple hero]

oh hush. I hate it when you neg on yourself.

I am sincerely not understanding where you are coming from.

there's not much i can do about that right now

[purple hero]

you shld give up catholicism.

Hello. What is this, I don't get the joke. I am very four year old kid in such matters

don't worry about it

[purple hero]

@Anti,

alchemist
nopoint
om

just off the top of my head

I couldn't actually find his stance on any of those players anywhere :<

elaborate on this?

alchemist he's been calling town this whole time so i don't know where the hell you've been
i could have sworn he's the one that called nopoint "lynchbait" at some point
om i'm actually probably misremembering because wis was the principle pooh-pooher of that read

[purple hero]

This whole role conversation is nonsense. If you vote DOAA and want people to vote him with you, you can't withhold your role, which I remind you from an outside perspective, apparently has at least some method of discerning another person's role. Considering the nature of your role is compromised, I can't imagine there being any particular harm done in just saying what you have instead of the circle jerk you're putting everyone through.

see that's the thing i don't know if i want people to vote him with me

also my role's not compromised

also explaining myself would involve outing BOTH my role and his so...... high risk
(didn't i say all this shit before?)

if you're really that taken aback by the "circle jerk" why don't you give reasons why you think he's town (independent of role stuff)

[purple hero]

I thought I asked this but mebbe I didn't: could you plz clarify as to how you know dreamz role, why did you drop off your push on them and what do you think of zzthing's putting metal in his scum picks and then later stating that they were not town? plus he is ignoring pie's questions completely.like I am not sure what it wld take to lynch scum around here apparently some1 can claim it and people will still dither about it.

if i told you how i knew dreamz role, i would have to claim. not doing that right now. also, the "assumptions might be wrong" qualifier actually kind of makes sense.

who's zzthing?

Bullshit

I think you are bluffing

Bluffing? Nah, we know your role, though am wishing anti hadn't said anything about it, though considering things your actions with masons and neighbors are kinda weird, I agree with that.

[purple hero]

Oh, I don't know what you were talking about. I thought you were talking about us pushing pieguy in this game.

We have a role that can produce guilties under some scenarios. Metal Sonic made a setup assumption and was wrong, though.

Don't do this, please. We already know that isn't true

[purple hero]

Beeboys town, I think

Dan is probscum
Om is scum, I think and Saki is to, I think

[purple hero]

yeah... i'll say

[purple hero]

well, whenever i've brought up sakura as scum, pieguy rises to the occasion and insists she's town

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[purple hero]

From what I understand, though (and from what I caught from Sakura) nacho isn't even really even playing, let alone dictating the flow of his team if they are scum. There's only so much one can do as scum, even with the game moving this fast. I don't think it's as likely as a possibility as you think

[purple hero]

Hey, so I realize that everyone thinks Unzan is a scum ability, but I have mod-confirmed information that it is a town ability.

This is coming from someone who replaced the guy who faked a guilty, so you'll understand that I don't believe this.

What does the competence of the previous player have to do with the competence of the current player?

[purple hero]

What kind of screwed-up circumstances would lead notscience and Jingle to be their preferred nightkill?

they're good with the gamestate as it is

[purple hero]

i.e. metal sonic is scum

[purple hero]

mastin, have you read the last 20 or so pages? beeboy's flipflopping on his partners confirmedness is weird, and IDK where the scum motivation for that would be, especially in someone who's not even been here for a year.

[purple hero]

(Okay, admittedly, we're wagoning ActionDan, butstill...if I were scum this game, players like the above--in addition to pie and Curiosity--would TERRIFY me a whole heck of a lot more than notscience or Jingle, on sheer policy alone. What kind of screwed-up circumstances would lead notscience and Jingle to be their preferred nightkill?)

we could have a newblet team who isn't really fully aware of the threats of players, and are willing to take chances with the mason team for a while. In particular, the masons being alive reminds me of empires large normal where Cabd and I were masons with GM and I my actions in game had caused enough apathy to not kill us off right away and GM wasn't killed so that we weren't confirmed right off the bat, either though that would put some credence to your nacho theory, a bit but there, nacho was a little bit more of a presence compared to this game and I don't think he'd attempt to do the same thing twice

[purple hero]

I get where your coming from, mastin but I am still unsure of it being nacho. I am far more willing to bet on wisdoms theory of scum being comfortable with gamestate. we should relook at our top choices, I think because town pushing mislynches contributes to that

[purple hero]

pirate mollie
Mononoke (Sakura Hana + Nachomamma8)
purple hero (Antihero + Ms Marangal)
haj/mastin2
Curiosity

ActionDan

Om of the Nom
Ankamius
Saki

SXTLHGaiden
beastcharizard
Time (MTD + Aronis)
nopointinactingup/Birds of Prey
Alchemist21
beeboy

This is the remainder of the player list (nati-sonic, masons, and us aside) , and it is organized by people looked at the most, to those looked at the least throughout the last couple days. I am willing to put a town read on anyone in the top group nostly because of the fact that, Prior to today, those have been the people who have been the most vocal, and have been allowing scum to hide behind the noise, and is also the group of people that have been looked at the post this entire game.

I've had a strong town read on Curiousity D1, and by extension their mason partner is also town. I've mostly been a non-presence, but anti has been doing his best to stay in this game, though for whatever reason a few of his early pics aren't even being looked at.

I feel like Action Dan is scum, but with how the votes have played out makes me second guess, almost scum are wanting to make him today's mislynch but they hadn't succeeded. possible that he is being bussed, at this point in time, though.

the group of people after dan have been vocalized as scum at various points in the game, but have not gone anywhere near L-1 or L-2 which could contribute to scum confidence. I strongly believe that all three of those people are very likely to be scum. Saki and Om, more so.

The last three would be found in the last group of people, IMO and those would be the people who havn't been looked at, at all. If I happen to be wrong and all the scum are in that group, it would be a very strong reason for why they are comfortable with the game state. Beeboy is the least likely to be scum in that group, IMO and IIRC, Anti had a town read on Beast but Titusslot, Time, and gaiden are the prime suspects IMO in this tier.

[purple hero]

Also, Mastin is town and I am unlikely to budge from that read.

I've caught her as scum before, mislynched her as town plenty times, but hardly, if ever do I get a town read on her, and I think I'm going to stick with the one she had given me catching up.

[purple hero]

uhmm.... yeah? I don't have you, and pie listed because you are masons. Nati-sonic isn't listed because I don't really know where they would fit in all that

[purple hero]

I also listed us >.>

POINT IS

top tier is likely town, Actiondan could be, third tier is very likely to be scum (and I think natisonic could go there) and remainder of the scum is probably found in the last tier

[purple hero]

VOTE: Alchemist

[purple hero]

reason for why they are comfortable with the game state

[purple hero]

well, tough.

if you're town, do something. You aren't going to get away with this minimalist crap you've been pulling all game.

pedit: I don't think so.

[purple hero]

heh

not really, no. I can see the merit behind the AD lynch and beeboy is in the last tier but, if they really are neighbors it doesn't really answer any questions, I don't think

[purple hero]

pedit: your play is pretty minimalist, and even in our hydra game you had put in more effort

[purple hero]

Meta within the last few years is always relevant in some way, shape, or form.

[purple hero]

and that still doesn't change the fact that you're not putting in any effort

[purple hero]

yes. You've done zero active scum hunting this game.

[purple hero]

I am far more willing to bet on wisdoms theory of scum being comfortable with gamestate.

hey mara
/waves

[purple hero]

pirate mollie
Mononoke (Sakura Hana + Nachomamma8)
purple hero (Antihero + Ms Marangal)
haj/mastin2
Curiosity

ActionDan

Om of the Nom
Ankamius
Saki

SXTLHGaiden
beastcharizard
Time (MTD + Aronis)
nopointinactingup/Birds of Prey
Alchemist21
beeboy

saki should be lower and time should be higher but yeah

[purple hero]

oh yeah, mastina is scum

VOTE: mastina

what's this now?

[purple hero]

So you are telling me that we have had a fake claim that drew masons out and seem designed to draw masons out that was not flash lynched?

not quite there

[purple hero]

Are y'all considering a framer or just being derpy?

well, there's a third option which is "haj was just being an asshole" which is what we're going with right now

[purple hero]

Explain. How is a claim of player X is masons or scum not designed to draw a mason? Whynot say masons neighbors or scum?

what are you talking about?

[purple hero]

this is the series of posts i'm talking about

Spoiler:

VOTE: pieguy

Guilty

I am not a cop. Pseudo guilty

Suspect he is 3rd party.

wait a second

this isn't the same shit from suburban warfare is it?

because that didn't help
at all

Not the same shit. That one was failure. Will not repeat again

Under some assumptions pieguy should be conf scum. Assumptions may be wrong. Better than wisdom though

Get the fuck off pieguy. He's still town.

MS talk to me about what a "pseudo guilty" is, because I'm very close to lynching you.

~Wis

Claim masons or shut your trap.

Don't need to deal with extra shit like this

Look at the end of the pieguy wagon. There's def scum in there.

Pieguy is very likely 3rd party. Both scum and town will be happy to lynch him

[purple hero]

...and now that i put all those together, it very much comes from a "scum hunting an SK" mindset

[purple hero]

people

FORGET THE WAKE STUFF IT'S A RED HERRING AND A WASTE OF TIME

[purple hero]

wis and mollie

i'm REALLY close to claiming but it might be on a stupid impulse

[purple hero]

I mean I had a vote on dreamz cos the role I can think of is mafia role where purple would know his role but anti is saying if he outs his role then he outs metal's too and I even questioned this but didn't get much.

why is mastin scum?

[purple hero]

THAT DOESN'T
ANSWER
THE
QUESTION
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[purple hero]

we can't lynch alch because pie said so
we can't lynch mastin or beeboy because wis said so
we can't lynch actiondan because mastin said so
we can't lynch dreams because i'm too much of an indecisive asshole to claim

WHAT THE HELL

[purple hero]

ANTI JUST FUCKING CLAIM

/sigh

metal you have anything to say or what? am i just sitting here making mollie hate me for no goddamn reason?

[purple hero]

better not claim. its out secret.
i can understand why mollie is so uppity
"i have a secret and its a very nice secret and makes me excited"
"what is it? what is it??"
"not telling"

i know
ican't tell i'm such a coward

because ilf im' wrong
mala's goingf to hate me
mollie's going to hate me
metals' going to hate me
pie's going to hate me
wis's going to hate me
mala's going to hate me (she probably does already but hell...)
mastin's going to hate me
beast's going to hate me
titus is going ot hate me
jingle's goint o hate me


EVERYONE'S going to hate me

[purple hero]

PIEGUY

i have to ask you sojmething

which ones is scummier
actiondan or beeboy?

[purple hero]

ah dammit

i'm sorry giffy i didn't mean to do sthat

[purple hero]

ok

so pie gives aiot the green light
wis gives the green light

that's good enoguh for me
VOTE: actiondan

[purple hero]

i have this niggling feeling in my gut that one of mollie/purple hero is definitely scum

:scumposting:

^
so is..... EVERYTHING ELSE in this latest series of om posts

om's scum

[purple hero]

if this means im a lone wolf for the rest of today then so be it but im not gonna ge on the ad wagon at all

SCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUM

[purple hero]

holy shit

ok

om knows the dan lynch is shit
because he's scum

VOTE: om

[purple hero]

Plz no this doesn't make any sense at all

yeah you're right

om's behavior this game makes no fucking sense

at all

why?

because

for the important things

he HAS to be in the

out-group

ALL
THE
TIME

this is now the

SECOND MAJOR TIME

time

this is happening

i'm referring to what happened previously with kagami on day 1

EVERY TIME SOMETHING OF HIS GETS UP TO LYNCH HE CAN'T GET OFF OF IT FAST ENOUGH
kagami

jingle was a scumread for all of day 1 and when it was his turn to get wagoned day 2 where was om

NOWHERE TO BE FOUND

oh and now the latest and greatest? the actiondan wagon.

it hits critical mass here
and like a good townie, om followed through on his suspicions to produce information for future use

OH NO WAIT, JUST FUCKING KIDDING HE HOPPED OFF AGAIN AND WASHED HIS HANDS OF EVER HAVING BEENON IT IN THE FIRST PLACE

but if u guys seriouly want to lynch between the neighbours today id rather go with beeboy and stay the hell away from the dan wagon

I find this ~very~ interesting, for a reason I'll get into later.

how did you go from thinking Dan could be scum and even voting him previously, to here?

beeboy switch set off major alarm bells i only jut got around to mentiong that oops

also yea i admit im partly sheeping mastin here

but srsly idk man the whole town wanting to lynch dan but the lynch not actually coming through just sounds bad to me and i do not want to be a part of this

"lol i'm actually against the popular opinion now NYUCKNYUCKNYUCKNYUCKNYUCKNYUCKNYUCKNYUCKNYUCK"

this is lord mhork-style contrarian scumbag

[purple hero]

HEY MASTIN AND PIEGUY

please come in here and tell me AAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL about how completely staying 100000 feet away from any wagons that might actually go to lynch is town

BECAUSE IT'S SO TOWN TO AVOID ACCOUNTABILITY

RIGHT?

[purple hero]

oh
AND FOR SUPER FUN BONUS POINTS

Om of the Nom (7): pirate mollie, purple hero, Mononoke, Alchemist21, Jingle, Saki, Jakuzure Nonon

this is the only large wagon that

didn't draw the secret scum double voter

I

WONDER

WHY

THAT

IS

[purple hero]

^that point actually may or may not be relevant depending on if i'm right about who unzan is

[purple hero]

so is nati and that sucks

Fyi, her net is out until monday

[purple hero]

lol

[purple hero]

good luck with that, mollie

[purple hero]

also, not claiming

[purple hero]

anti I swear to fucking god you reek of feeling guilty right now.

^is this what you're talking about?

hey mollie, my name's antihero i know you've never met me before

i'm not blowing metal sonic's cover yet there's too much at stake

[purple hero]

good talk, i appreciate it

[purple hero]

say what you want about sakura's "tell", but mollie JUST saw me completely fall on my face as scum. i suck as scum, this would be a breakout game for me if i were scum here.

how she can't tell this is town-me is completely beyond me

the only thing i can figure is that she wants me to claim what i have on metal, but that's too goddamn bad. if that means she'll votepark on me the rest of the day, so be it.

[purple hero]

eh shes just being mollie

~Wis

lol what?

she still does everything for a reason she doesn't just get a wild hair up her ass and do random things

it might LOOK that way sometimes, but that's only to the untrained eye

i'd ask her to let me in on it, but she probably doesn't trust me enough to tell me

i guess i'll ask anyway: mollie what's going on?

[purple hero]

that's not what i meant and you know it

[purple hero]

something

just happened

i don't know what it was

was it what i said about om?

well, do you disagree with it? it feels like there's a lot of naysaying going on in this game. one player contributing the most to the gridlock is om.

what are you bothered by the vanity vote? i don't know if an om wagon is going to happen today, but i'm making a statement and trying to get people's attention.

what's the root of the problem here?

[purple hero]

whom is this specifically meant for?

wis is the biggest gridlock of the game. and I am telling you that I do not think that town!nacho would not post that w/o a reachout.

what do you think of pie's giant sign to vote me? cos it is shitty.

it's addressed to you mollie. you voted me which means you either REALLY think i'm scum (seriously?) or you're not happy with what i'm doing (more likely). i'm trying my hardest though.

wis is wis, he's really stubborn. not the same as om though.
pie just sat and completely cased out town-sakura because i demanded it of him. that's probably why the reactive vote.

[purple hero]

y'all are idiots
if you guys kill me anytime soon imma just give a bunch of i told u so's in the dead qt
im town so u fuckers just shut the hell up k thanks bye

i smell a rat

it's sitting on my face

pissing in my nostrils

[purple hero]

How does that make him town?

[purple hero]

that was me questioning your town-read on Om

[purple hero]

I can actually kinda vibe with that reasoning, wisdom. but that's probably me being a terrible scum-neighbor.

[purple hero]

Mastin's town, period. You aren't touching her.

[purple hero]

How does that make him town?

>Dan is a neighbor.
>Dan posts "cool, let's be masons."
>Dan has a history of treating neighbor partners this way as town.
>The behavior is natural coming from town, assuming the neighborhood is just an unconfirmed masonry. (Regardless of whether it is or not, the BELIEF is the important bi.)
>The behavior is NOT natural coming from scum, who KNOW that it isn't a masonry and fear treating it as such will create backlash.
>Thus, Dan going all "cool, let's be masons" means Dan is town.

Really not that hard.

this still isn't questioning the dan town-read, though but the Om one.

[purple hero]

Pedit: lets flip Om then? I'm more confident in that push than I am on the Dan push, and the argument you think is contrived makes alot of sense. Occams razor and all that

[purple hero]

OCCAMS FUCKING RAZOR

[purple hero]

Aka, I think you're thinking to hard

[purple hero]

the connections between them is purely theoretical though and might not even be there. Knowing mastin, she isn't likely to defend two buddies off the bat.

what are you thoughts on my break down of the game outside of me adding you and us in there?

[purple hero]

and, as I said, if they are neighbors, questions aren't really answered.

[purple hero]

YOU STILL AREN'T DOING ANYTHING

[purple hero]

like, I looked through you Iso a billion times, and there isn't any work that can't be faked, and there isn't really anything that isn't fence sitty, really.

[purple hero]

eh lets leave the connections aside for now and lynch AD

~Wis

don't avoid the question!

[purple hero]

pirate mollie
Mononoke (Sakura Hana + Nachomamma8)
haj/mastin2

ActionDan

Om of the Nom
Ankamius
Saki

SXTLHGaiden
beastcharizard
Time (MTD + Aronis)
nopointinactingup/Birds of Prey
Alchemist21
beeboy

This is the remainder of the player list (nati-sonic, masons, and us aside) , and it is organized by people looked at the most, to those looked at the least throughout the last couple days. I am willing to put a town read on anyone in the top group nostly because of the fact that, Prior to today, those have been the people who have been the most vocal, and have been allowing scum to hide behind the noise, and is also the group of people that have been looked at the post this entire game.

I've had a strong town read on Curiousity D1, and by extension their mason partner is also town. I've mostly been a non-presence, but anti has been doing his best to stay in this game, though for whatever reason a few of his early pics aren't even being looked at.

I feel like Action Dan is scum, but with how the votes have played out makes me second guess, almost scum are wanting to make him today's mislynch but they hadn't succeeded. possible that he is being bussed, at this point in time, though.

the group of people after dan have been vocalized as scum at various points in the game, but have not gone anywhere near L-1 or L-2 which could contribute to scum confidence. I strongly believe that all three of those people are very likely to be scum. Saki and Om, more so.

The last three would be found in the last group of people, IMO and those would be the people who havn't been looked at, at all. If I happen to be wrong and all the scum are in that group, it would be a very strong reason for why they are comfortable with the game state. Beeboy is the least likely to be scum in that group, IMO and IIRC, Anti had a town read on Beast but Titusslot, Time, and gaiden are the prime suspects IMO in this tier.

fixed it so that it looks like how it should

[purple hero]

Pedit: that isn't going to work with me.

P-pedit:

:/

VOTE: Dan

[purple hero]

They rolestop and jailkeep their target. their pseudoguilty doesnt make sense

[purple hero]

Their rolecard is gatekeeper. they are scum and would like to have them lynched

[purple hero]

And, from what I know of wisdom and mala, gambits are unlikely from that slot. if they think they have something concrete, blind trust is a good call

[purple hero]

Because it's pretty powerful and we don't want to die, but I am tired of this.

Anti might hate me, but atm we need guts. Dan, Dreams, and then titus will get lynched in that order. I can wait

[purple hero]

We started the game as backup pr, current role should now be obvious

[purple hero]

They rolestop and jailkeep their target. their pseudoguilty doesnt make sense

Their rolecard is gatekeeper. they are scum and would like to have them lynched

THANK YOU!!!

VOTE: dreamz things

why the fuck would you move off of them with the way they were pushing pie? and why have you not outed your role cos I find it weird that your roles are somehow tied to a point where you would be so hesitant to out it.

Game knowledge and series of this post makes it obvious.

They prevent their target from being killed, prevent their target from being targeted by other roles, but they prevent their target from making an action. they (dreams) is the ultimate protective role, and the jk modifier vs a doc modifier makes an op scum role, less op

[purple hero]

We have a shot of your ability, we inherited ns's role

[purple hero]

There is no blocked kill, so Idk how you ever had an inkling of a pseudoguilty and knew they were somehow mason in the end of it

[purple hero]

Dan, dreams, prey (time, saki)

[purple hero]

Role is posted in the post where original owner of the role flipped

[purple hero]

The daylight drew near.
After the girls and the players gathered in front of the Moriya Temple for the Second Dayphase, the girls have realized that the tanuki was missing.

"Oh where did that raccoon go? Everyone needs to gather around for the day phase to start!"

Soon, a certain shrine maiden with green hair approached the group.

"Oh I can't believe I didn't made a cut for this game! *puffy face*
Oh by the way, if you're looking for Mamizou, she's right over there."

Soon, the group found Mamizou, lying at the shrine backyard and knocked out.

notscience

, with Mamizou Futatsuiwa,

Light 2-shot Transformer

, was found knocked out Night 1.

Spoiler: Role PM

Hello,

notscience

~

You are with

Mamizou Futatsuiwa (Light 2-shot Transformer)

.

BGM: Futatsuiwa From Sado/Gensokyo

Powers:

• Transform:
  At night, you may transform to your target. You will learn your target's role and get a 1-shot of your target's ability. You may not transform and use your acquired 1-shot ability at the same time.

Win condition:

• You win when all the non-Light factions are eliminated.

Now it is Day 2.

The deadline is November 6, 12:45 PM EST.
Countdown: (expired on 2014-11-06 12:45:00)

click the spoiler, I am on phone, don't feel like explaining things

[purple hero]

Why is he vla now when he has been at the meet all weekend?

[purple hero]

And been there since Thursday

[purple hero]

VOTE: mastin

metal we need to talk after this game is over

[purple hero]

yes it was

about
hydra and
what a "guilty" result means

[purple hero]

UNVOTE:

No.

Also, mara will be v/la from the 16th to the 21st. MOVING CROSS COUNTRY

[purple hero]

you

[purple hero]

Fuck no

and if it's about another failed desperado shot, we used our oneshot on you

[purple hero]

Pedit: that

[purple hero]

Saki
SXTLHGaiden
beastcharizard
Time (MTD + Aronis)
nopointinactingup/Birds of Prey
Om of the Nom
Alchemist21
beeboy
Ankamius

that is our lynch pool for today, probably.

[purple hero]

whoops, forgot to take him off, but mastin is town

[purple hero]

and I know, I'm narrowing them down as we speak, but those are the ones that I don't have as town. Specifically, I would like Om, Prey, and ank killed the most. prey being primary choice for today.

also, do you really think mastin would defend her scumbud the way she did?

[purple hero]

Oh

and Saki.

[purple hero]

well, ok but I think scum-reading her based solely off that interaction is dumb. you're going to need more than that one thing to convince me.

Pedit: no

[purple hero]

oh, that claim. we still kill him, he is still scum

[purple hero]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one seeing Saki's stink lines this game.

we've pushed him most of the game, sup?

[purple hero]

this is the one time I've ever felt good about a mastin read and I'm not about to give it up, ever.

also, Viscon:Wingate mansion

but that was multi-ball, I doubt this game here is

[purple hero]

willing to kill anti's town read from mollie earlier.

Pedit:

VOTE: Gaiden

[purple hero]

I actually might as well start my V/LA earlier because I have plans tomorrow onward, but if I am in chicago and find a town mastin dead, I'm never forgiving you

[purple hero]

also, do you really think mastin would defend her scumbud the way she did?

yesyesyes

FUCKYES

[purple hero]

willing to kill anti's town read from mollie earlier.

oh that's already dead and buried, mara.

[purple hero]

{mastin, Alchemist, Gaiden, beast}. Om or Ank could replace one of those if wrong.

~Wis

om and ank can replace gaiden and beast

and i'm cool with that

[purple hero]

i like this head more

Anti, we thought overnight with pie and we decided that what mastin was doing was trying to defend AD and bussing Alchemist at the same time. That way, he would gain "i replaced in and caught scum" ubercred, and it would give cred to AD too.

Find this plausible?

~Wis

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hold on a sec

[purple hero]

well, mastin never voted alch so that argument kind of doesn't have legs to stand on

[purple hero]

if mastin is scum, i think she went all-out with the defense. the entire scumteam might be in the townreads

[purple hero]

well, mastin never voted alch so that argument kind of doesn't have legs to stand on

i'm an idiot. strike this^

[purple hero]

I should mention the town I've gotten. Ankamius (moderate), Om (moderately-strong), Dan (moderately-strong), and nopointinactingup (weak).

i....


....


could actually see this scumteam

[purple hero]

read his entrance and his push on alch and tell me if my scenario makes sense, because we think it does

~Wis

the push actually isn't that great

it's assumed from the VCA and never really elaborated on