InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

[zMuffinMan]

Abomination has been killed Night 3.

you bastard

i only joined this game so i could vote abomination

now i don't know what to do

[zMuffinMan]

sure

if you walk me through what a shard has to do with the game and why prohawk taking a shard from noddy is a bad thing

[zMuffinMan]

(for arugment's sake, let's just...

pretend

i haven't read anything that isn't on this page yet)

[zMuffinMan]

is ns really town or something?

[zMuffinMan]

and im guessing prohawk hasn't claimed anything yet.

(speaking of, list of claims and stuff if anyone knows all of them would be cool)

i'm also like more than fine with sheeping a semi-guilty without reading shit

Vote: Prohawk

wheeeeeee

[zMuffinMan]

though presumably it's a good idea to wait til after flips before anything happens

[zMuffinMan]

is shos scum? i don't remember him posting like scum when he was town

[zMuffinMan]

you're a dumb fuck imo

[zMuffinMan]

if prohawk claims anything even remotely plausible that explains targeting noddy and isn't counter-claimed, you should probably die just for your posts on this page

[zMuffinMan]

wat

[zMuffinMan]

i am no more or less informed than i was before you claimed

maybe character + explanation of role + explanation of what you meant by that egg thing + etc would be cool

[zMuffinMan]

is that two results on shos that failed?

[zMuffinMan]

bb + goat?

[zMuffinMan]

that means I was probably jailkept. which is awesome.

JK doesn't rolestop (unless it's the alien variant) and if it did you wouldn't have been able to kill abom

[zMuffinMan]

it doesn't it roleblocks the target and prevents kills

only the (incredibly stupid) alien variant rolestops

[zMuffinMan]

no he said he didn't consider it a scum result until he found out you were most likely responsible for stealing the shard

[zMuffinMan]

and considering you think scum want shards, it seems a logical conclusion to draw, no?

[zMuffinMan]

what is shos's claim?

[zMuffinMan]

can someone give me a list of all the claims currently on the table or point me to where someone has listed them

[zMuffinMan]

making a full list of claims is a deep pool of shitload of work

yeah

look at player list

remember claims

very hard

here ill start

prohawk - jewel thief
shos - scum with good fake-claim
bbmolla - joat of sorts
goat - something investigative
noddy - something that had a shard

the power of memory

[zMuffinMan]

has anyone got a result of any sort of shos at any point in this game?

[zMuffinMan]

or had an action of sorts succeed on shos

[zMuffinMan]

Shos also self-watches and detects race of his visitors.

presumably this is passive, right?

[zMuffinMan]

so the only way you wouldn't have got at least one result is if someone ninja rolestopped you the people who targeted you were coincidentally both somehow blocked

[zMuffinMan]

or the people*

[zMuffinMan]

at night I can duel someone and get a 1-s ability in reward, most likely a killing ability.

who have you targeted so far

or are you claiming this entire ability is 1-shot?

[zMuffinMan]

I don't get where you think he is scum posting

has he written anything that looks town

[zMuffinMan]

would like links as proof

[zMuffinMan]

i don't really understand what the point of this 24-hour flip mechanic is apart from being lolgimmicky for no good reason

also decided prohawk is most likely third party if not town (i'm trying to figure out how a shard thief would theoretically fit into a setup where all it can do is take shards from people and... presumably just amass them til it dies or until endgame or something? third party of some sort makes the most sense here unless he's lying about his role)

[zMuffinMan]

has bbMolla clarified whether no result means the investigation chance succeeded and he still got no result or is no result due to the 25% chance?

[zMuffinMan]

Gains an ability deemed useless related to the dragonscale tessaiga. Said ability could have confirmed xof, but is unclaimed.

. . . . .

[zMuffinMan]

who do you think is scum

[zMuffinMan]

3 kills last night, and one of them was the target shos said he would kill

right. if he's scum, he's telling the truth about his role

so 3 kills is perfectly reasonable regardless of shos's alignment

[zMuffinMan]

What you are saying basically is that you were Bo7, quit, and you are town. Now, you can use "your cunning" to watch someone but only once in the game. Then you say N1 is stupid for any night actions in such a large game, but you DID waste your one shot watch on nero thay night.

That sounds like the single worst fakeclaim evar inthe history of the universe and all its parallel universes.

it's still a town claim unless cephrir went "LOL I'M GOING TO GIVE SCUM A SCUMMY FAKE-CLAIM LOL"

which i suppose is possible if cephrir was like "lol gimmicks lol shenanigans lol mindfuck" but would be kinda shit for whoever gets that fake-claim!

[zMuffinMan]

Read the wiki. It makes no sense whatspever. He was a sortof engineer, doesnt fit watcher.

Re: betrayal
Sp you were scum and only after lemnis death you betray? So you know who scum is?
Crapload of shit

<insert youtube video of response to billy madison speech>

[zMuffinMan]

that's not actually an interesting question

[zMuffinMan]

shos is *probably* town (or at the very least, probably not group-scum with abomination) and is not likely to live very long this game regardless of his day play so whatever - also i *suppose* this means that abom was an unsuccessful shard thief since shos didn't receive a shard, or shards are not transferred via kills (the latter of which seems unlikely because i can't really think of how else they'd be transfered given a 1-shot shard thief is meh)

same for prohawk actually, since if shard hunting is a thing and scum want shards, then prohawk is going to get killed by someone in the near future regardless of his alignment so that will resolve itself, too

i don't really wanna read 200 pages so i'm just gonna chill a bit until i figure out who i wanna vote

[zMuffinMan]

though voting titus is tempting

which hydra is titus

hopefully not the friendly neighbour

[zMuffinMan]

also not particularly concerned with questioning shos's role at the moment since it's very similar to the marisa role in gif's touhou game from what i've read (although this game it seems that apparently he can get an ability of every player rather than just certain players)

[zMuffinMan]

though since shos claimed he was very likely to kill abom or bulba, it's somewhat likely scum have an alient-variant JK (roleblock+rolestop) and were trying to block him (incredibly likely if bulba-slot is also scum, i guess) and that would explain the two failed results on him i guess

[zMuffinMan]

would be kinda shit for whoever gets that fake-claim!

You get to pick your fake-claim. If you don't like it, you can request another super-duper-elaborate fake-claim be made. STOP TRYING TO FIND SCUM BY ASKING FOR FLAVOR.

i would assume you're telling me you get to pick which

role

you want to fake-claim, not which

character

you want to fake-claim

i am talking about the latter

[zMuffinMan]

(also i'm going off FEA where scum were given set character fake-claims) (plus really, i don't see anyone voluntarily choosing a scummy-sounding fake-claim unless they're huge trolls because, in the absence of someone like me pointing out it's unlikely to be a scum fake-claim, they're likely to cop flak for it)

[zMuffinMan]

The mist wagon was a "don't lynch lemni" wagon.

how did mist end up getting lynched then

[zMuffinMan]

hmm i'm looking at the context under which birds of prey claimed ascetic and i'm not sure i want to lynch there either atm (even if my left hand is currently restraining my right hand in MUST-RESIST-URGE-TO-VOTE-TITUS fashion)

[zMuffinMan]

ARONIS REPLACED BULBA

OMG

V

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that felt

so good

[zMuffinMan]

you're awful

anyone who protects you is fucking dumb

killing you is antitown

[zMuffinMan]

killing you is protown*

protecting you is antitown*

[zMuffinMan]

like i read the first few posts highshroomish made before offering to replace into this and realised how fucking obviously town the slot was

anyone who thinks highshroomish's demon=miller stuff came from scum is literally admitting they're awful at mafia and should be ignored for the entirety of this game

you're that fucking bad at mafia, shos

[zMuffinMan]

I truly suck eh, nailing 2 scum while being a cw to both, that must be a real scummy behavior

oh, right, right

you're a jakefromstatefarm alt or something

no fucking wonder i think you're the most incredibly stupid fucking awful moron who i've ever seen play a mafia game (and you're in contention with players like aronis - who has lied about his town neighbour scum slipping as town, faked an inno on scum before self-hammering as a cop, and self-hammered as town in known mylo)

[zMuffinMan]

just to be clear, you're claiming you "nailed" lemniscate, right?

[zMuffinMan]

Zmuffin, why the hell are you making everything personal on shos. Some of those comments are ridiculously bad.

not really. i haven't read shit that's happened before today and i think his posts are the dumbest shit i've read in a mafia game in a long time.

[zMuffinMan]

Spoiler: i feel dumber reading shos's posts, the only-looking-at-recent-posts version

So it is either youscum, or we have 6 man scumteam, or..

How comes you never said anything about how scum are a 6man team and not 7 as everybody kept saying?

Mhork, how does these work together

I didn't watch shos because A) night 1 is a dumb night for actions in a massive game, B) I still don't understand what the fuck shos' role is and he's sketch as fuck.

I was trying to pressure you because we only had one shot and you weren't blocked or shot or anything.

I watched Nero

What you are saying basically is that you were Bo7, quit, and you are town. Now, you can use "your cunning" to watch someone but only once in the game. Then you say N1 is stupid for any night actions in such a large game, but you DID waste your one shot watch on nero thay night.

That sounds like the single worst fakeclaim evar inthe history of the universe and all its parallel universes.

Read the wiki. It makes no sense whatspever. He was a sortof engineer, doesnt fit watcher.

Re: betrayal
Sp you were scum and only after lemnis death you betray? So you know who scum is?
Crapload of shit

Also theres GOTTA be scum on xpf wagon yesterday since the abom pynch had so much rsistance

Also I officially ask to be protected tonight. I will also be able tp confirm being targetted.

awful, awful posting

especially the last one since he is assuming he was JKed by scum and asking for doc protection

[zMuffinMan]

PLUS LOL AT SCUM EVER KILLING HIM

would literally be playing against their win con from what i've read

[zMuffinMan]

kagami is town

[zMuffinMan]

then your notes are wrong

[zMuffinMan]

read the fuck up, then post content that is not ignorable.

i have a better idea

i ignore everything you say because you're a fuckwit

deal

[zMuffinMan]

Preliminary thoughts with a scum Abom is that Venmar's slot is likely not town.
Clyton slot is also likely not town I think

where is this coming from

[zMuffinMan]

because watcher is infinitely more powerful than tracker

[zMuffinMan]

INFINITELY

[zMuffinMan]

was bulba a likely redirect target? i am guessing not

also aronis hasn't said "IMMA SELF HAMMER BECAUSE IM TOWN" yet so he's scum

[zMuffinMan]

not important anyway since aronis's reaction is less antitown than it would be if he were town

[zMuffinMan]

even if oversoul is scum, aronis is being lynched

also i will treat any protective claim that claims to protect shos as a scum claim

[zMuffinMan]

whatevs, 2 doc counter-claims is good enough reason to lynch aronis so let's get on with it

if this day phase drags out i might be expected to read stuff or something

[zMuffinMan]

the 2 posts above mine

[zMuffinMan]

did people actually have a scum read on shroomish

[zMuffinMan]

there's like zero reason to ql him

well i dunno we can twiddle our thumbs a bit but considering i don't think another lynch is happening, unless there's stuff you want to talk about or stuff you're waiting on, dragging the day out seems kind of pointless

[zMuffinMan]

i mean if i unvote i lose my super cool position of being first on the wagon and on the wagon before it was fashionable

so i'm not unvoting

although i would like to have everyone check in (i don't think i've seen PA post once yet?) before a lynch occurs

[zMuffinMan]

not important anyway since aronis's reaction is less antitown than it would be if he were town

Pretty amazing scumtell.

on a scale of 1-10 where 1 is fairly town and 10 is the most antitown shit you've ever seen, anything less than a 10 is a scum tell for aronis

[zMuffinMan]

not important anyway since aronis's reaction is less antitown than it would be if he were town

Pretty amazing scumtell.

on a scale of 1-10 where 1 is fairly town and 10 is the most antitown shit you've ever seen, anything less than a 10 is a scum tell for aronis

Zmuffin, what the hell are you talking about?

also can you please explain the post kagami quoted? because it really is a fucking odd post.

are you...

...

... how many times were you dropped on your head as a baby?

[zMuffinMan]

stop fucking being personal, and also stop dodging. may as well claim fully if you don't want to be shot tonight.

nah it's cool, im fine with just calling you a fucking moron (and rightly so) for the rest of the game

[zMuffinMan]

fun fact, btw

my slot is the only slot in this game with 100% participation in scum lynches (including before the tracker claim stuff happened) and 0% participation in town lynches

you're batting 2/4 atm shos, and claiming you want to vig the (statistically) most pro town player in the game

moron

[zMuffinMan]

if you keep this personal I'll just officially report you. I have no need for this.

you're awful at mafia and you should feel bad about it

im not going to pretend that's not the case but sure if you want me to stop posting factual information, i will oblige

it's for your own good, though. some people just need to be told what others are too nice to tell them

[zMuffinMan]

yes you nailed them alright

let me see if i can remember what you said

something about bulba being a good shot only if xof flipped scum but wanting to kill abom if xof flipped town because he was a counterwagon

no doubt you were very clearly nailing them and you're a good player

[zMuffinMan]

got it.
I think Zmuff is seshoumaru.

nope

[zMuffinMan]

not what you think it is, and that's the only freebie you get because I want to keep my fake claim a secret

[zMuffinMan]

although i will tell you there is flavour explaining why my fake claim makes sense as a VT

[zMuffinMan]

why are you trying to discredit me so much? am I right in my reads so you want to make people not believe me?

yes this is exactly what is going on

we (the obvious scum team) fear you as a player (but not enough that we want to ever night kill you) and so our only method of making people not listen to you (which they would otherwise be doing if not for this clever ploy by me) is to call you a moron. we the scum team have decided this is a good idea because we think making fun of a brilliant player who has claimed to have a vig shot a available to him is a good idea

and yes it is really obvious to me how much you nailed Aronis, as evidenced by you never calling him scum or showing any inclination to vote him prior to the tracker thing. my mistake

[zMuffinMan]

although i will tell you there is flavour explaining why my fake claim makes sense as a VT

There's no super extra flavor in my role PM. only a quote in the beginning, and a titbit of flavor in the explanation of each of my abilities.

VOTE: Zmuffin

ah damn

foiled by your brilliant mind

guess I'll go yell at cephrir for giving me a shit fake claim

[zMuffinMan]

that brilliant player is also a very viable mislynch until we find Naraku, which you still haven't.

and about aronis - I called him scum when he was bulba, remember? wanted to shoot him? prodded him for a claim, which he didn't give, which then by pressuring him on why bulba wouldn't claim made him fakeclaim?

ah yes, i still haven't found naraku in all of the zero pages i've read. damn. (unless it's nero and we killed him last night, which is possible, and would then make me as a scum player infinitely greater than you for bussing my teammates, never being on a town lynch wagon, and killing the SK. go me! most pro-town scum to have ever played the game)

and yes i am totally aware of how much you nailed aronis. didn't i just get through talking about how obvious it was you thought he was scum and how much you nailed him? whenever i feel i need lessons in how to improve my scum hunting, i'm going to come back to your ISO this game and take notes. pure. brilliance.

[zMuffinMan]

oh and you're right that i don't remember you calling him scum when he was bulba. i donno how i could have forgotten that!

[zMuffinMan]

ah crap. I forgot to add the =====SCUM===== in Aronis.

anyway. look at his spoiler, in the quote I put there.

he claimed to have targetted Zmuffin N3. after he knew we have an odd-night tracker. wanna bet scumAronis used his 1s poison doc on muffin N3 and was making sure that if he was tracked he's still good?

Now that they've used two of their fakeclaims, they cannot use the third, so wonder what the next fakeclaims will be..

I'll bet 'VT with flavor indicating why I am a VT' is one

Ah yes, with your brilliant powers of deduction on town's side, how could scum ever hope to win?

I mean, obviously Aronis fake claimed to match his actual actions, that's why Aronis claimed to go somewhere N1 when actually he went nowhere. And of course he was worried about being tracked because what tracker wouldn't track one of two likely vig targets?

And yes obviously I decided my fake claim wasn't good enough and thought "hey maybe if I lie about there being flavour to explain it, people will believe me"

Gosh darn it. Scum was screwed when RNG made you town. You just keep nailing us.

I'm complaining about cephrir to a list mod because it just wasn't fair of him to allow a next level thinker like you to be town

[zMuffinMan]

ah yes tracking a vig target is always a good idea

/pro tips from shos

[zMuffinMan]

why wouldn't you claim your flavor if you've already claimed VT?

please wait

while complaining to cephrir about how unfair this game and how I thought he was cheating because there was simply no way you could be this good at the game if he hadn't given you spoilers, I told him about how i messed up and claimed there was flavour explaining why sesshoumaru is a VT and now I'm waiting for him to get back to me with something to save my ass

Be patient please

[zMuffinMan]

old him about how i messed up and claimed there was flavour explaining why sesshoumaru is a VT

err...
no. you claimed you were NOT sesshoumaru.

is this the lie I was waiting for muffin?

oh, no!

not again!

i must make sure to double check everything i write because your ability to see through me is just way too good

(in all seriousness, i'm nominating you for a scummy when this game is over because you destroyed my team single-handedly, what with nailing us all and everything)

[zMuffinMan]

my god, this is going to continue for another 3 pages.

no unfortunately i have work soon, so shos will only be able to destroy me for the next 20 mins or so

i suppose i should stay quiet now just in case he hasn't completely solved the game yet and i give away who i'm scum with, but well, he's going to figure it out sooner or later so we're doomed no matter what i do

[zMuffinMan]

are you or are you not him? and why wouldn't you claim if you're a VT? what does it matter?

Obviously because I'm scum

What other possibility could there be?

[zMuffinMan]

Naraku, VT

[zMuffinMan]

You know, shos... If you were smart (which you are) you could just out whatever the flavour thing is that makes you think I'm sesshoumaru and have someone else tell you what I am

Because that seems infinitely faster in terms of getting what you want

[zMuffinMan]

it makes sense that you would get wind scar

still not sesshoumaru

[zMuffinMan]

obviously, what really happened is he poisondocced muffin his matey.

Obviously

I mean, it's not like getting wind scar from me flavour clears me or anything

[zMuffinMan]

it is true though since everyone on the Aronis lynch after egg was after the tracker guilty

[zMuffinMan]

rainbow votes are always serious and not something to be taken lightly

[zMuffinMan]

why do you keep mention ynb when in order for them to be scum bbMolla has to be scum, so start writing your scum case on bbMolla or shut the fuck up about it, k?

[zMuffinMan]

do you understand my argument that muffin is scum, then?

is that the argument where you flavour-cleared me?

[zMuffinMan]

also please update your claims list to reflect that i claimed naraku, VT

[zMuffinMan]

how exactly do you think you got wind scar off one of the bo7 '/ naraku?

[zMuffinMan]

top

[zMuffinMan]

you are, if i ever actually claim flavour, but i'm not going to, because that's too easy

[zMuffinMan]

2ez

[zMuffinMan]

bop might not be scum

kagami is town

majiffy might be town

hey shos, did anyone target you last night or is that 4 nights in a row nobody wanted to target you?

[zMuffinMan]

PA / venmar

neil / clyton

either of them (or both of them) scum?

someone give me cliffs notes because i have zero intention of reading anything this game

[zMuffinMan]

who were the neighbours

[zMuffinMan]

what flavour

[zMuffinMan]

do you know my flavour kagami

[zMuffinMan]

lolz is this is a scumslip

ur amazing

[zMuffinMan]

we should still get a claim from muffin

every time you ask for it, it delays me wanting to do it by another 24 hours

[zMuffinMan]

Hey, hey, hey!
hey!
Hey muffin!
claim?

current date you can expect a claim:

June 16, 2023

if we no lynch for a while and the scum chooses not to kill for a few hundred night phases, you'll get it from me before end game

[zMuffinMan]

but he claims that I was wrong~

i'm not sesshoumaru, but it makes sense that you would learn wind scar from dueling me, ergo i'm flavour cleared

[zMuffinMan]

If BB really has a shard, then BoP's team shardcopped him.

I see zero reason to believe BB ever got a shard unless shippo had one, and that would have come N3.

he says doing nothing gives him (and others?) shards, and he's done nothing a couple nights

[zMuffinMan]

I think he just presumes that anyone who would give you the wind scar is town.

well, no, i'm literally saying it makes sense for him to have learned it from dueling with me

[zMuffinMan]

well i didn't read the claim only shos's shitty abbreviated version of it which didn't include that

[zMuffinMan]

"explanation of why I am VT".

it says i'm a badass motherfucker but coz fighters around me are at least my equal, i can only provide support like a boss (democratically)

[zMuffinMan]

which head of bop is posting? because i just realised nothing either head ever writes makes any sense to me and i can't tell which nonsensical post belongs to who

[zMuffinMan]

it's not that stellar tbh

[zMuffinMan]

did i miss the flip or is cephrir just really awful with this 24-hour business

Shhhhhhhh

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[zMuffinMan]

If P_A confirms what neil said, then a 3-man masonry is pretty potent, but otherwise 90% of town power is shos (assuming he's not sk)

he's not SK

still wouldn't ever waste a protection on him

[zMuffinMan]

squirrel girl isn't in that list?

and also the only people off that list are like... oversoul and... beast?

[zMuffinMan]

i doubt squirrel girl is scum

oversoul could be, i guess

was there much talk about undead and stuff d1/d2/d3? coz his claim came at an awkward time iirc

(also don't fully trust that what neil is saying about names in role PMs is true because if it is, that's just poor game design by ceph)

[zMuffinMan]

i wouldn't trust it even if PA confirmed it since (a) there is always the possibility cephrir did something like what fakegod did, and (b) there's always the possibility they're doing some dumb gambit where one of them is scum and the other is town who thinks "lol masons" is smart play

[zMuffinMan]

Neighbors, could you confirm with ceph that there's no possibility of him pulling a FakeGod move? (i.e. "Your neighbor is hakkaku," when in fact he's Naraku)

also would like to hear as much as possible about exactly what it says in the role PMs (e.g. if it says "You are neighbours with X (who is A) and Y (who is B)" and any other details about it)

[zMuffinMan]

what is horrible about it

[zMuffinMan]

If anything is wrong there/you can add - add and repost

ya i asked you to add the fact i claimed naraku like 3 times now, what the fuck man. please keep it current

[zMuffinMan]

fine

Spoiler: ALIVE

Lord Mhork, 1-shot watcher

Flavor

: Renkotsu

Race

: Undead

Abilities

: "Elaborate Ploy" - 1-shot watcher.

Actions taken

: watched nero N2. Nobody targetted him.

posts 5792, 4822 relevant

shos, Scenter Empathic Vi

Flavor

: Inuyasha

Race

: Demon

Abilities

:
"Empathic Blade" - visits a player, gains a 1-shot ability almost surely related to their flavor, most likely a 1-s vigilante shot.
"Scenter" -learns if he was visited by a person who is demon or undead.

Actions taken

:
N1, duels Majiffy. Gains an unclaimed ability - "Dragonscale Tessaiga".
N2, duels Serene2. Gains a one-shot vigilante shot - "Adamant Barrage" - which is strongman except for Naraku(or something).
N3, kills Abomination.
N4, Duels zMuffinMan, gets an unspecified killing ability.

ProHawk, Shard Thief

Flavor

: Tsubaki

Race

: Human

Ability

: Visit a player, steals a shard if they have one.

Actions taken

:
N1/N2 unknown.
N3 Stole notscience's shard.

Oversoul, race miller

Flavor

: Urasue

Race

: Demon

Ability

: If investigated, shows as undead.

Squirrel Girl, Doublevoter

Flavor

: Unclaimed

Race

: Unclaimed

Abilities

: Double-vote by demonstration. Possibly more. Claims to be able to vote the same person twice.

Actions taken

: Unclaimed

beastcharizard, Poisonproof

Flavor

: Unclaimed

Race

: Unclaimed

Ability

: Can't be poisoned.

notscience, Faustian Puppet

Flavor

: Kohaku

Race

: Human

Ability

: Can be used by Naraku to perform nightkills

Actions taken

: Unknown

Birds of Prey, Ascetic

Flavor

: Hakudoshi

Race

: Demon

Ability

: Ascetic.

ActionDan, Poison Doctor

Flavor

: Unclaimed

Race

: Unclaimed

Ability

: Visits players, cures poison if there is.?

Actions taken

:
N1 - Unclaimed.
N2 - visited BBMolla, no poison.
N3 unclaimed.

Kagami, Faustian Puppet

Flavor

: Princess Abi

Race

: Demon

abilities

:
One unclaimed ability.
Can be used to perform NKs by Naraku.
Can Vanilla-ize self.

Actions taken

: Unclaimed

Majiffy, Faustian Puppet

Flavor

: Ryujin

Race

: Demon

Ability

: Can be used to perform NKs by Naraku.

Actions taken

: Unknown

Young and Beautiful, 3-shot Friendly Neighbor

Flavor

: Jijenji

Race

: Demon

Ability

: 3-shot Friendly Neighbor. link.

Actions taken

:
N1- Visited Chamber of Kittens, blocked.
N2- Visited geists, geists died.
N3- Visited BBMolla, Succeeded. Molla confirmed this.

neil1113, Scumfuck

Flavor

: One of the wolf pack is his fake claim

Race

: Probably Scumfuckian

Ability

: Has knowledge of shards. Is a neighbour.

The Goat, Shard cop

Flavor

: Kagome

Race

: Human

Ability

: Investigates a person, receives if he has a shard or not.

Actions taken

:
N1 - Unclaimed
N2 - Unclaimed
N3 - Visited shos, no result.
N4 - Neil, no result.

penguin_alien, Neighbour

Flavor

: One of the wolf pack

Race

: Probably Demon

Ability

: Is a neighbour.

BBmolla, Priestess

Flavor

: Midoriko

Race

: Human

abilities

:
"Fisherman" - Percentages changed to 100% if he just got a shard. Can passively gain shards if multiple people gain a shard simultaneously.
Ability with 50% chance to see if player has a shard.
Ability with 10% chance to kill a non-human player. If it succeeds and they're human, does nothing.
Ability with 50% chance to protect a player. can self-protect, but this will only work successfully once.
Ability with 75% chance to force a player to commute.
Ability with 25% chance to be told if a player is town or scum.

Actions taken

:
N1 - Does nothing.
N2 - Commutes Kagami.
N3 - Investigates shos, no result(roleblocked)
N4 - Does nothing.

Egg, 2-shot tracker

Flavor

: Unclaimed

Race

: Unclaimed

Ability

: 2x Tracker

Actions taken

:
N1 tracked Bulba/aronis to nowhere.
N3 tracked prohawk to notsci.

zMuffinMan, VT

Flavor

: Naraku

Race

: Demon

Spoiler: Dead and Flipped

Lemniscate, SCUM 2-shot Nonconsecutive Ninja

Alignment

:

Band of Seven Mafia

Flavor

: Jakotsu

Race

:

Undead

Abilities

: 2-shot Nonconsecutive Ninja

Cause of death

: D1 lynch

Fakeclaim

: Kocho, Town Undead Mason

AngryIcerink, TOWN Demon Vanilla

Alignment

:

Town

Flavor

: Ryukotsusei

Race

: Demon.

Cause of death

: Killed night 1 by Unknown.

Mist7676, Town Human Demon-Cop

Alignment

:

Town

Flavor

: Miroku

Race

: Human

Abilities

: Demon Cop

Cause of death

: Lynched Day 2

Actions Performed: Probably visited AD N1, probably got non-demon?

geists, Town Human Vanilla

Alignment

:

Town

Flavor

: Rin

Race

: Human

Cause of death

: Killed Night 2 by unknown

xofelf, Town Demon Hexmage

Alignment

:

Town

Flavor

: Shippo

Race

: Demon

Abilities

: 9-abilities JoaT
-Undead Cop
-Self-Commute
-50% chance Ascetic
-Vote-thief
-Hated-ifier
-Vote-preventer?
-Disguiser
-Ability-type IDer
-Unclaimed

Cause of death

: Lynched Day 3

Actions Performed:
N1 - Self-Commuted
N2 - Followed BB, confirmed used a blocking-type ability

Abomination, SCUM Jewel-related

Alignment

:

Band of seven mafia

Flavor

: Bankotsu

Race

:

Undead

abilities

:
- Even night jewel cop(probably boolean if has/doesn't have shard)
- One-shot Jewel thief

Cause of death

: killed N3 by shos

The Chamber of Kittens, Town neighbour

Alignment

:

town

Flavor

: Hakkaku

Race

: Demon

abilities

: Neighbour with Penguin_Alien and Neil1113.

Cause of death

: shot N3 by unknown

Serene2, Town Shardholder

Alignment

:

town

Flavor

: Hosenki

Race

: Demon

Abilities

: May have had a shard?

Cause of death

: Killed N3 by unknown.

Aronis, SCUM one-shot odd-night Poison Doctor

Alignment

:

Band of Seven Mafia

Flavor

: Suikotsu

Race

:

undead

Abilities

: One-shot odd-night poison doctor.

Fakeclaim

: here, "Kikyo, undead odd-night doctor. They protected majiffy N1 and I protected muffin last night"

Nero Cain, Unknown

Alignment

:

Flavor

:

Race

:

Abilities

:

Actions taken

: Unclaimed.

related posts: 5951

Cause of death

: killed N4

done

[zMuffinMan]

technically, on a theory level, shooting the claimed ascetic is not a bad idea

but i could also just be saying that because she's not scum with me and i don't want the ever-impressive shos to decimate my team anymore than he already has

[zMuffinMan]

this morning

heh

[zMuffinMan]

i fucking have claimed

like

100 times now

i even updated your fucking claims list

look

it says naraku

[zMuffinMan]

The important thing is that their PM confirms each other as being their flavor

PA didnt confirm that though

[zMuffinMan]

Neighbors, could you confirm with ceph that there's no possibility of him pulling a FakeGod move? (i.e. "Your neighbor is hakkaku," when in fact he's Naraku)

also would like to hear as much as possible about exactly what it says in the role PMs (e.g. if it says "You are neighbours with X (who is A) and Y (who is B)" and any other details about it)

[zMuffinMan]

my fake-claim is kirara btw

but i'll stick with claiming naraku

[zMuffinMan]

inb4 neither PA or neil ever reads any of the requests about this and we end the day not knowing

[zMuffinMan]

'twould be funny if not so saddening

[zMuffinMan]

so the mod specifically told you in your role PM they aren't mod-confirmed to be part of the wolf pack?

[zMuffinMan]

PA the hood is likely all town. Can you see this is town me asking for your vote or at least a dialogue?

Zmuffin, where have you been? We need townMuffin to come on and see I am town.

I don't think the hood is likely all town

and I don't know why you expect me to be able to read you well. as is, I don't think you're scum but seeing as your scum reads are basically a bunch of people I think are more likely to be town than not, I'm contemplating the best course of action right now

[zMuffinMan]

I don't really have a strongest scum read

just a bunch of people I think are town and some i don't

I think Neil could very well be scum. I think it's possible majiffy/noddy contains one scum. I think oversoul and maybe AD could be scum. That's basically where I'm at atm

[zMuffinMan]

oh and beast I guess since I don't remember him at all

[zMuffinMan]

oh yeah Neil is really town I can understand why people think that now

[zMuffinMan]

how would an ascetic work with a hypothetical poisoner?

[zMuffinMan]

what is the wording of your ascetic ability?

[zMuffinMan]

i should actually do stuff here but whatever

[zMuffinMan]

I don't really have a strongest scum read

just a bunch of people I think are town and some i don't

I think Neil could very well be scum. I think it's possible majiffy/noddy contains one scum. I think oversoul and maybe AD could be scum. That's basically where I'm at atm

oh and beast I guess since I don't remember him at all

I haven't been reading

Has anyone commented on how {shit/amazing} my reads are?

[zMuffinMan]

I would murder titus for being titus if I thought there was a point in doing so

I don't really think she's scum though

I wouldn't object to her being vig killed just because I realise she's a distraction but I'm meh on the lynching thing

[zMuffinMan]

Vote: Oversoul

at least until I decide where else I wanna go

[zMuffinMan]

VOTE: bop

I'm voting titus. Majiffy is on the viglist.

oh hey pagestart! I'll get a claimlist

please go over your claim in this list.

If anyone's claim is not correct here, please quote this post and update your own slot and only it.

Spoiler: ALIVE

Lord Mhork, 1-shot watcher

Flavor

: Renkotsu

Race

: Undead

Abilities

: "Elaborate Ploy" - 1-shot watcher.

Actions taken

: watched nero N2. Nobody targetted him.

posts 5792, 4822 relevant

shos, Scenter Empathic VI

Flavor

: Inuyasha

Race

: Demon

Abilities

:
"Empathic Blade" - visits a player, gains a 1-shot ability almost surely related to their flavor, most likely a 1-s vigilante shot.
"Scenter" -learns if he was visited by a person who is demon or undead.

Actions taken

:
N1, duels Majiffy. Gains an unclaimed ability - "Dragonscale Tessaiga".
N2, duels Serene2. Gains a one-shot vigilante shot - "Adamant Barrage" - which is strongman except for Naraku(or something).
N3, kills Abomination.
N4, Duels zMuffinMan, gets an unspecified killing ability.

ProHawk, Shard Thief

Flavor

: Tsubaki

Race

: Human

Ability

: Visit a player, steals a shard if they have one.

Actions taken

:
N1/N2 unknown.
N3 Stole notscience's shard.

Oversoul, race miller

Flavor

: Urasue

Race

: Demon

Ability

: If investigated, shows as undead.

Squirrel Girl, Doublevoter

Flavor

: Unclaimed

Race

: Unclaimed

Abilities

: Double-vote by demonstration. Possibly more. Claims to be able to vote the same person twice.

Actions taken

: Unclaimed

beastcharizard, Poisonproof

Flavor

: Unclaimed-Can claim if wanted.

Race

: HUMAN!!

Ability

: Can't be poisoned.

notscience, Faustian Puppet

Flavor

: Kohaku

Race

: Human

Ability

: Can be used by Naraku to perform nightkills

Actions taken

: Unknown

Birds of Prey, Ascetic

Flavor

: Hakudoshi

Race

: Demon

Ability

: Ascetic.

ActionDan, Poison Doctor

Flavor

: Unclaimed

Race

: Unclaimed

Ability

: Visits players, cures poison if there is.?

Actions taken

:
N1 - Unclaimed.
N2 - visited BBMolla, no poison.
N3 unclaimed.

Kagami, Faustian Puppet

Flavor

: Princess Abi

Race

: Demon

abilities

:
One unclaimed ability.
Can be used to perform NKs by Naraku.
Can Vanilla-ize self.

Actions taken

: Unclaimed

Majiffy, Faustian Puppet

Flavor

: Ryujin

Race

: Demon

Ability

: Can be used to perform NKs by Naraku.

Actions taken

: Unknown

Young and Beautiful, 3-shot Friendly Neighbor

Flavor

: Jijenji

Race

: Demon

Ability

: 3-shot Friendly Neighbor. link.

Actions taken

:
N1- Visited Chamber of Kittens, blocked.
N2- Visited geists, geists died.
N3- Visited BBMolla, Succeeded. Molla confirmed this.

neil1113, Dirty Scum Fuck

Flavor

: One of the wolf pack

Race

: Probably a dirty scum fuck

Ability

: Has knowledge of shards. Is a neighbour.

The Goat, Shard cop

Flavor

: Kagome

Race

: Human

Ability

: Investigates a person, receives if he has a shard or not.

Actions taken

:
N1 - Unclaimed
N2 - Unclaimed
N3 - Visited shos, no result.
N4 - Neil, no result.

penguin_alien, Neighbour

Flavor

: One of the wolf pack

Race

: Probably Demon

Ability

: Is a neighbour.

BBmolla, Priestess

Flavor

: Midoriko

Race

: Human

abilities

:
"Fisherman" - Percentages changed to 100% if he just got a shard. Can passively gain shards if multiple people gain a shard simultaneously.
Ability with 50% chance to see if player has a shard.
Ability with 10% chance to kill a non-human player. If it succeeds and they're human, does nothing.
Ability with 50% chance to protect a player. can self-protect, but this will only work successfully once.
Ability with 75% chance to force a player to commute.
Ability with 25% chance to be told if a player is town or scum.

Actions taken

:
N1 - Does nothing.
N2 - Commutes Kagami.
N3 - Investigates shos, no result(roleblocked)
N4 - Does nothing.

Egg, 2-shot tracker

Flavor

: Unclaimed

Race

: Unclaimed

Ability

: 2x Tracker

Actions taken

:
N1 tracked Bulba/aronis to nowhere.
N3 tracked prohawk to notsci.

zMuffinMan, VT

Flavor

:

Kirara

Naraku

Race

: Demon

Spoiler: Dead and Flipped

Lemniscate, SCUM 2-shot Nonconsecutive Ninja

Alignment

:

Band of Seven Mafia

Flavor

: Jakotsu

Race

:

Undead

Abilities

: 2-shot Nonconsecutive Ninja

Cause of death

: D1 lynch

Fakeclaim

: Kocho, Town Undead Mason

AngryIcerink, TOWN Demon Vanilla

Alignment

:

Town

Flavor

: Ryukotsusei

Race

: Demon.

Cause of death

: Killed night 1 by Unknown.

Mist7676, Town Human Demon-Cop

Alignment

:

Town

Flavor

: Miroku

Race

: Human

Abilities

: Demon Cop

Cause of death

: Lynched Day 2

Actions Performed: Probably visited AD N1, probably got non-demon?

geists, Town Human Vanilla

Alignment

:

Town

Flavor

: Rin

Race

: Human

Cause of death

: Killed Night 2 by unknown

xofelf, Town Demon Hexmage

Alignment

:

Town

Flavor

: Shippo

Race

: Demon

Abilities

: 9-abilities JoaT
-Undead Cop
-Self-Commute
-50% chance Ascetic
-Vote-thief
-Hated-ifier
-Vote-preventer?
-Disguiser
-Ability-type IDer
-Unclaimed

Cause of death

: Lynched Day 3

Actions Performed:
N1 - Self-Commuted
N2 - Followed BB, confirmed used a blocking-type ability

Abomination, SCUM Jewel-related

Alignment

:

Band of seven mafia

Flavor

: Bankotsu

Race

:

Undead

abilities

:
- Even night jewel cop(probably boolean if has/doesn't have shard)
- One-shot Jewel thief

Cause of death

: killed N3 by shos

The Chamber of Kittens, Town neighbour

Alignment

:

town

Flavor

: Hakkaku

Race

: Demon

abilities

: Neighbour with Penguin_Alien and Neil1113.

Cause of death

: shot N3 by unknown

Serene2, Town Shardholder

Alignment

:

town

Flavor

: Hosenki

Race

: Demon

Abilities

: May have had a shard?

Cause of death

: Killed N3 by unknown.

Aronis, SCUM one-shot odd-night Poison Doctor

Alignment

:

Band of Seven Mafia

Flavor

: Suikotsu

Race

:

undead

Abilities

: One-shot odd-night poison doctor.

Fakeclaim

: here, "Kikyo, undead odd-night doctor. They protected majiffy N1 and I protected muffin last night"

Nero Cain, Unknown

Alignment

:

Flavor

:

Race

:

Abilities

:

Actions taken

: Unclaimed.

related posts: 5951

Cause of death

: killed N4

Fixed mine.

same

[zMuffinMan]

Can someone tell me where discussion about undead scum first started and what oversoul said about it maybe

[zMuffinMan]

Nah I'm not really looking for when oversoul first mentioned it but I'll look at that as well

I'm more looking for when it was first discussed and whether oversoul had anything to say about it at the time

[zMuffinMan]

"For starters i don't make walls" followed by a wall is the mafia equivalent of "I'm not racist, but..." I guess

[zMuffinMan]

i dont actually think titus is scum but i wouldn't be terribly upset if she was killed by vig shot purely because her scum reads are likely all (or mostly) town

[zMuffinMan]

No~ If she was killed by vig shot, she's going to cry that "scum always shoot me when I'm right again! "

oh and "shos is scum "

so?

[zMuffinMan]

I don't read much titus writes anyway so I don't see why id care about that

[zMuffinMan]

I mean there's never anything wrong with a titus lynch in a I-regret-nothing sense, but titus is so nonsensical that all the arguments about whether titus would do x as town just make me depressed because he answer is "yes, unfortunately I can see all these things coming from titus town and it makes me lose faith in humanity but oh well"

I mean, I've never seen titus scum in a game with me I think so it's entirely possible that she's playing up her nonsensical shit because lolmeta but that doesn't really work unless people but into it? Unless she's given up and is trying to mist here for remaining teammates but *shrug*

would still rather it be taken care of via vig unless shos is shooting like oversoul or something then I don't care really

though I kinda wanna sit down and think about people that aren't titus for a bit because that seems like a good idea rather than going on and on about her

[zMuffinMan]

buy into *

[zMuffinMan]

Has anyone talked about Neil / noddy / oversoul / beast lately?

[zMuffinMan]

did I?

[zMuffinMan]

Hand must have slipped

[zMuffinMan]

Typo etc

[zMuffinMan]

Lol. Nope. A sound argument is a valid atg where the premises are true.

soundness and validity are unrelated. an argument can be sound (meaning the conclusion follows from the premises) but not valid (if the premises are untrue)

if we assume the implied answers to all the questions you asked in that big post are the premises with the conclusion that ynb is scum, your argument is not sound and most likely not valid either

[zMuffinMan]

*shrug* whatever

don't care, changes nothing i said

[zMuffinMan]

id like oversoul to full claim, as well as describing what his role pm says about kikyo

[zMuffinMan]

6986 was aimed at you, muffin. I think titus was spamming it out.

?

Hmm? Why and why? You don't seem like the flavor type.

because you said your role PM mentions kikyo a lot and kikyo was aronis's fake-claim iirc

and also i want a full claim to know whether you're actually "negative utility" because race-miller isn't exactly the sort of thing i would claim "negative utility" over instead of outright saying "hey i'm a race miller" because the latter implies things about the setup (like, oh, i dunno, that the scum are all undead, which if you're a race miller shoulda been obvious to you, but no you were talking about how scum could be a mix of demons / undead / human at one point, which is ???)

[zMuffinMan]

6968

oh yeah i thought i saw something like that somewhere

i was alluding to that question and any others like it in this post

I mean there's never anything wrong with a titus lynch in a I-regret-nothing sense, but titus is so nonsensical that all the arguments about whether titus would do x as town just make me depressed because he answer is "yes, unfortunately I can see all these things coming from titus town and it makes me lose faith in humanity but oh well"

[zMuffinMan]

i would rather you not shoot squirrel girl

also i don't think scum have a double-voter in this setup

[zMuffinMan]

because i'm making inferences about what scum is likely to have based on other scum power and i think it's a bunch of somewhat individually-weak powers because the setup is likely 21:6:1 and ceph didn't want to put too much power into any one role on the scum side (well, maybe there's 1 scum role that's somewhat powerful in comparison to the others, but i doubt it's a double voter)

also just from what i've read of squirrle girl, i don't think she's scum

i don't think mhork is scum, tbh, but prob not a good idea to have anywhere near a potential lylo situation

[zMuffinMan]

...

BOP: You help me collect herbs or something?

I am not understanding this.

you broke YnB's quote where they claimed so it looks like you claiming if people aren't paying attention (which goat clearly isn't)

[zMuffinMan]

every time i see neil post i do a double-take and upon discovering i'm not imagining what i'm reading, i get really depressed

[zMuffinMan]

claim the stuff oversoul

I answered your question

[zMuffinMan]

pedit: so EDIT IT IN DAMNIT IT IS NOT HARD

you got all pissy with me when i edited neiil's claim

[zMuffinMan]

._. how bout your claim, now, eh? I've waited long enough posts-wise

I've already claimed at least twice. Not my fault you aren't paying attention

[zMuffinMan]

Ctrl+F the letter "i" in my ISO and you'll find it

[zMuffinMan]

I'm totally having fun this game

what's the longest game ever?

fea

[zMuffinMan]

imo mislynch today and keep this argument going tomorrow

ill continue not reading it but gj boosting page count

[zMuffinMan]

btw I'm scumreading muffin

do you ever town read me?

[zMuffinMan]

Never would have guessed kirara, but it makes some sense since there's an episode where shippo is talking about all the mean things inuyasha did to kirara, and one of the flashbacks is him practicing how to use the wind scar on her.

indeed

[zMuffinMan]

strong

[zMuffinMan]

strong

It worked in ffery game

It will obviously work here

when does nka ever not work?

[zMuffinMan]

YnB do you have a single scumread not named Titus?

does the BoP read count? they've been pretty vocal about that one, too

[zMuffinMan]

that would be the entire point behind the setup not being open, i would guess

the same as when you have a cop and doc claim D1 it makes it easy for knowledgeable scum who know what a cop and doc

[zMuffinMan]

do

[zMuffinMan]

I think you're easy to ignore because you post once a week, not because you're cute and polite

[zMuffinMan]

Jesus fucking Christ

I wish people would actually read what Neil writes instead of going, "lol neighbours must be town"

[zMuffinMan]

Jesus fucking Christ

I wish people would actually read what Neil writes instead of going, "lol neighbours must be town"

I've ignored you a couple times because, well frankly, your posts are as worthless as your opinion. But I'm curious, what exactly it is that makes you so furious when I post? Specifically my last post, if you have a problem with it, talk to me. I'm here. Don't just try and invalidate it with useless strawmanning. Filler texts do nobody no good.

Because you're incredibly obviously scum

[zMuffinMan]

Also lol @ titus putting you and PA as town because of neighbourhood

[zMuffinMan]

Neil is scum? Huh. There is a fine line between dumb and scum, muffin.

You think titus crosses that line

[zMuffinMan]

I wasn't implying they are scum together just how ridiculous a statement that was given who you're pushing

[zMuffinMan]

If oversoul flips scum, btw, I'm forcing a Neil lynch through tomorrow or making the game unbearable til it happens

[zMuffinMan]

Titus may not be dumb but this is far from the most nonsensical play I've seen from her

[zMuffinMan]

see that's how little i'm actually reading titus's posts

i didn't even see a shard-bearer claim

[zMuffinMan]

did noddy start with a shard? is there flavour behind starting with a shard in the PMs?

also what was the ascetic flavour?

[zMuffinMan]

(also i mean is there flavour like does it describe in the PM why you have a shard)

[zMuffinMan]

also if shards are linked to flavour then

HEY SCUMS PLS KILL THE FUCK OUT OF NEIL TY

HE IS "CONFTOWN" AND HAS SHARDS

[zMuffinMan]

Neil has a shard if he's koga, muffin. Mastin pretty much said so, and I think it also makes him town.

good then he's a perfect kill for scum

i wish them all the best in retrieving whatever shard/s neil has

[zMuffinMan]

it occurred to me that prohawk could be SK

[zMuffinMan]

maybe

[zMuffinMan]

it also occurs to me that if whoever we lynch today is anything other than a SK then goat shard-copping prohawk is potentially a good idea

[zMuffinMan]

(i know he has a shard via noddy, i just want to see if he can be investigated)

[zMuffinMan]

it also occurs to me that having a puppet be scum is great setup design because they can perform their own night kills and never worry about being tracked to anything

[zMuffinMan]

(well, having a puppet fake-claim for scum, rather)

(though now that i think about it that doesn't really work unless ceph has done something really weird and not told the SK who the puppets are / how many there are / etc?)

[zMuffinMan]

are you assuming scum don't start with shards?

[zMuffinMan]

eh

not something i would bet the game on

[zMuffinMan]

no not really

(A) I'm assuming collecting the shards is meant to be hard (and possibly a secondary thing in this game), and
(B) if shards are passed via killing/hammering then it's by no means an impossible feat

[zMuffinMan]

yeah whatevs

vote: bop

I suppose I'm fine with this if oversoul eats a bullet