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ok, so I have a new theory about shos, but it still means we should run him up.In post 366, shos wrote:alright welel I'll get this later-
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I still want the shos lynch. I don't feel whatever subtle thing mastin feels.
It's hard to imagine any intent behind shos's initial post other than to out the actual possessor of the sesshomaru flavor, which is likely a strong PR. No inuyasha fan would include sesshomaru in the game without him being an awesome role.
Nobody's touching on what I really disliked about 90. It's 100% obvious that flavor and alignment are related from our win condition alone. Though maybe it's more obvious to us because of the naraku thing, I don't think it's any coincidence that absolutely no one, out of 28 players, expressed a similar sentiment.
My theory is that the connection really wasn't clear to shos, because he is not town and is also not part of the scumgroup that includes naraku. Since it couldn't be sesshomaru and pals, the second scumgroup has to be something funky like koga et al or some other miscellaneous group of demons. To them, it might not be at all apparent that alignment and flavor are related, since they would be scum without a terribly scummy flavor.
Alternatively, it could have been a really clumsy and unnecessary crumb, but there's no harm in wagoning that either.
@mastin, I get that you like to include ridiculous reads in your lists, but sakura hadn't even confirmed her PM according to the OP.
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Is there any way you can elaborate on this? There aren't really that many undead in inuyasha.In post 934, shos wrote: Also from examining my role pm i can infer that the other scumteam is undead.-
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Wait, I got that one of them is Cho; we've figured out the other?-
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In post 2342, geists wrote:In post 2338, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:
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Foxfire: The ability to create incredibly hot greenish fire with demonic skills. It has next to no burn effect on opponents, but it can burn things like spider webs. It can neutralize fire from enemies, making it more of a defensive spell than an attack. The flame can be turned blue and can be held in his hand as a torch, such as when he is in caves or dark areas. This is also his main attack. Foxfire can be used as a shield, too. This was first shown when the fur of Shippō's deceased father created Foxfire to protect Shippō and Kagome from Hiten's thunderbolts. This ability also made its debut in the tenth episode of the series.
I don't get what you're trying to say here.
What part of that ability suggests that this is a means of detecting whether or not an entity is undead? Shippo never uses foxfire as some sort of investigative action afaik, he uses it as a somewhat laughable offense and modest defense.-
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In post 4427, Oversoul wrote:In post 4423, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:Ok mhork and oversoul. Please explain to me why her night actions make sense.
Also explain why she's a hexmage who doesn't hex.
And why foxfire investigates undead.
Both of you, go.
I don't know? I'm not town reading her based on flavor.
Why do you expect me to have these answers
K, then why do her night actions make sense?
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In post 4727, penguin_alien wrote:...
Anyone care to provide their version of a very short game summary? Because 150+ pages won't be read until the end of the weekend.
You can check my iso for a claims summary, since then BBMolla claimed a sort of chance-based JoAT and NS claimed to have a shard of the Shikon Jewel, which has some utility for scum.
Spoiler is that Xof is scum, and oversoul prob is too. There's a Shroom wagon which is reasonably righteous, though he's not my favorite lynch.-
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In post 4837, ProHawk wrote:In post 4829, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:I don't imagine that ceph would make up a whole role PM for them
Wrong. All scum got entire fake role PM's in AMOL.
Would ceph have made you a full role PM for a fakeclaim other than the one you were initially given? (Like, if your orignal fakeclaim was Kikyo, but you want to be shippo, would ceph have generated an entire alternate fake-claim PM?)-
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In post 4849, Serene2 wrote:Whoever replaces out of Bulletproof? Did Sven get banned?
That's pretty interesting. Care to flavor-claim?-
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Sorry, but when someone hops into a slot with what I'm pretty sure is a lie, I'm not going to ignore it.
Point taken on 4888.
To better answer your SK question, three of us have a role that specifically tells us that naraku can use us to perform his kills, and the day one lynch was a ninja belonging to a mafia faction. It makes it pretty likely that naraku is an SK. The mafia faction is the Band of Seven, and I still think it's more likely that there are seven of them, for obvious reasons (which also implies that Naraku is solo, or there's just too many scum).
The only real relevance to knowing who is what is that the band of seven are undead, while naraku is a demon, which has investigative role relevance.-
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Shos has claimed a strongman vig shot. Even if he were confirmed SK, it would be worth leashing it, imo.
I also don't think he's scum, I think he's essentially a thief who gets things that give him vig shots or make his vig shots gain different properties. His role seems like one of those things that fits the theme so elegantly that I don't see Ceph relegating it to a fake claim.-
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In post 5092, shos wrote:I honestly do not understand where this is coming from.
I duel people. From that I receive abilities. The role is really not complicated.
That's what a thief is. That's what I said you are.
If your role is "unblockable except by naraku." That's a strongman kill.
I think you should explain what your role PM says in full. Earlier is was confusing, but now it's not complicated?-
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Could you explain the results of your night actions as best as possible, shos?
Thief doesn't necessarily influence the target, it's just a name for a role that is a soft flavor-cop who may get some power based on who they target (e.g. Messiah Complex's role in Touhou: LoF). The role you've claimed is basically thief that gets killing powers.-
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Ryujin has every relevance to the dragonscale tessaiga.
Ryujin has tosho make a blade for him out of his scales. Tosho turns out to be a bad dude and uses the sword (dakki) to kill ryujin and fights inuyasha with it. Through the battle, Inuyasha's sword gets dakki powers and becomes the dragonscale tessaiga.
What I'm trying to get to here, is that the flavor of your second night action most assuredly has something to do with Serene's character. You should be able to say something that would likely confirm to serene that you visited them last night.-
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In post 5203, xofelf wrote:Holy shit shos, what the fuck are you even doing? Why are you flailing so hard?
Also Kagami, what happens is I transform into someone for the night and the next day they are required to post a 100 character or less message I've prepared for them within their first 5 posts of the next day. They can't change what I've said or add to it. They're allowed to talk about it, and I can't make them vote.
What happens if they don't?-
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There's no utility at all for the ability for anyone, it's functionally a fruit vendor that forces the recipient to state that they've been vendored.
It's a silly ability, and fairly fitting for Shippo if it's real. I just have a hard time believing that Ceph would implement it in the way described. Seems like obviously terrible modding practice.-
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In post 5227, shos wrote:that message ability is extremely pointless apart from vending. if somehow xofelf makes it to 1-before-lylo, he should use it to confirm he didn't make the kill(s).
Explain this fully?
Also, how did you infer that jiffy is a demon night 1?-
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My takeaway here is that shos is probably not the SK.
If ceph is consistent with FE:A, and he probably is, only groupscum has the "no killing and acting on the same night" clause, and that went away if they were the last mafia remaining. The SK had no such restriction, and SK shos wouldn't have posted 5227. That post does strike me as slippy; I don't think I would infer that mafia can't kill and act just because I can't use my one-shot vig and act.
Shos could be groupscum, though that means bulb is almost certainly not a partner.
I would like serene to confirm shos's action N2.-
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Yes, I know the flavor. I never watched the whole series straight through, but I've probably seen about a third of the episodes out of order.
I am fairly competent at navigating the inuyasha wiki though, and I'm a little surprised that this appears to be a somewhat unique skill. Given that ceph lifted my PM image and some text straight off the wiki page makes me think he's referenced it too, so I'm also taking the wiki articles as slightly better than the actual show for flavor gaming.-
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In post 5243, shos wrote:how can she confirm my action.?
hey that's true, google search by image indeed gives the wiki. interesting. wonder if we can use this somehow.
also in the images that are visually similar I saw something realy funny but I wanna ask the mod permission first
Serene will be able to say if they have a flavor related to the diamond tessaiga (most likely hosenki).
It's useless since everyone can find the wiki image to any claim they want to make.
Doge demon.-
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Two JoATs is fine. BB isn't really a joat anyway, since his abilities are all pretty unreliable outside of the commutify-ing. 1-shot supervig if he gets a shard is pretty amazing, though.
The issues with xof's claim lie elsewhere, and this isn't like the vampire game where it could just be a gross misunderstanding of the role PM. Foxfire as an undead detector is inexplicably goofy, and if there's flavor to support it in the ability text, she's made no attempt to explain that.
The hexmage thing is weird and doesn't line up with Ceph's interpretation of what a hexmage should do.
Also, it seems unlikely to me that she didn't follow BB rather than her claimed action.
If we don't lynch xof, I'd like her to do the "appear as someone else and make them post stuff" thing. Reason being that this is by far the most Shippo-like ability, it's provable, it's very hard to fit into the role of a Bo7 member flavor-wise, and it's implementation is unbelievable enough that it seems the most likely to be faked.-
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Spoiler: xof claim wall
I have xof as having the following abilities
1. Undead cop (Foxfire)
2. Self-commute
3. Vote Thief
4. First-vote preventer?
5. Permavote (Firebomb)
6. coinflip ascetic?
7. One random active ability cop
8. Transform into someone for the night and make them say something the next day on penalty of modkill.
9. Unclaimed (lulz).
The only good ability is undead cop, and I'm not going to direct that because roleblocking is a thing. Everything else is garbage or anti-town until endgame. I really want to see #8 happen if we don't lynch her. It's provable, or has to be used on a buddy (which is also pretty great), it's claimed implementation is highly suspect, and I really doubt ceph shoehorned that into a Bo7 character's ability.
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Actually, I'm not even going to entertain the idea of not lynching xof. No sane individual would describe that ability list with
In post 2189, xofelf wrote:
There's a huge list of nightactions I can take, some of which are investigative, others protective, and some are downright silly. But I'm town.-
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In post 5317, Serene2 wrote:In post 5284, Kagami wrote:Where's serene?
Could one of those heads confirm shos's action last night?
how the hell would we be able to do that
Shos claim is that he visited you last night and that your flavor probably has something to do with the adamant barrage/diamond tessaiga.
Could you go to the inuyasha wiki, look up your character, and give us a y/n about whether you can ctrl-f "diamond" or "barrage?"-
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In post 5646, zMuffinMan wrote:can someone give me a list of all the claims currently on the table or point me to where someone has listed them
I have it written up, I'll post it once I have time in the afternoon.
Shos, who visited you last night, and what is their race?-
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