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In post 84, borkjerfkin wrote:scum venmar would 100% have known about hoods by now.
Scum or not, anyone who reads what the mod posts would have known about the hoods by the start of the game. To believe he's town we have to believe he did not read what was posted 2 posts before his:If you weren't already aware, the link to your neighborhood PT can be found next to the "affiliation" line of your role PM. Sorry for any potential confusion not knowing this may have caused.-
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So... umm, thoughts: I have a town read on Ika and a weaker town read on RubikAshtray. I like Ika's posts in general and his attittude, idk if he acts like this as scum but he's looking pretty town to me. As for Rubik, I liked the "overwhelmed" comment, it's a feeling I relate to and which I find less likely to come from scum.
I also feel good about my fellow X-Men, well, not "good"-good, but more like "not bad"-good. Our hood is peaceful and clean with a pleasant atmosphere. If there's scum in there they're wearing glorious amounts of townie deodorant.
As for Titus and Ven, right now, I'm more inclined to think they're both town.
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In post 623, Titus wrote:Snowstorm, let's work backwards then.
Make a list of your total townreads.
Post a list of everyone else and your thoughts on them.
Those were my town reads. I don't feel comfortable with calling anyone else town, right now, or scum for that matter.-
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In post 634, Titus wrote:Yeah but that's the point of the collective. You put a thought, people show why it's right or wrong. We move forward.
Well, that was my share for today. It's your turn now.
You can add Speaker for the Dead to my Town reads, I liked that wall.
Nero Cain wrote:In post 622, SnowStorm wrote:If there's scum in there they're wearing glorious amounts of townie deodorant.
What do you think of Jiffy pushing eek for saying that Venmar RVS wasn't really RVS and Titus parroting that and jiffy ignoring that. You believe he just missed that?
I haven't givenanymuch thought to that. I'm not even sure what you're talking about. Jifffy's eek push, I get, now that last part...-
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Nero Cain wrote:In post 27, My Milked Eek wrote:You're "lucky" (really doubting that "randomness")
here eek is saying that Venmars vote wasn't random
In post 133, Titus wrote:C) That his random vote accidently hit the most powerful hood in the game.
this is also saying that Venmar's vote wasn't random.
am I reading something wrong?
I see. I don't really have any problem with that. Those are two different situations. Even though they both had the same argument, it was presented differently. According to Jiffy, Eel slipped the argument to buddy bork, while in Titus' case the argument fits naturally with her thought process and push on Ven.
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I agree.
I'm liking Brian Skies. He can be town.-
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In post 792, Titus wrote:
Why are you agreeing with my scumread on you Snowstorm? What are better scumreads in each neighborhood?
I'm agreeing with Nero that your scumreads blow (including mine, that's why I used the strikethrough on "other than SnowStorm"...). The only scum read of yours I could agree with would be Eek's but even that would be a pretty weak one. - and I kinda like the way he reacted to the prospect of being lynched.
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In post 812, Titus wrote:Snowstorm, you think all my scumreads suck? Why do they suck?
Who are your townreads?
Let's see if we can talk on your nulls.
Your scum reads:
Eek - addressed in previous post;
Rubik - previously addressed town read;
Clusk - null. Not enough content to get a good read on.
Nero Cain - Nero being one of the few players in this game I've played with before, I think his behavior this game is similar with his town behavior in the game I played with him. While I don't think that's enough to give him a town read, it's enough to keep him out of my scum reads for now; besides, there has been nothing alarming in his posts content-wise.
Snowstorm - that's me.
Venmar - Already addressed. I'm still inclined to believe you're both town for now.
My town reads are scattered through my posts, they are:
Ika;
RubikAshtray;
Speaker of the Dead;
Ven;
Titus;
Brian Skyes.
We can't talk nulls, not until I give an official read on them.-
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In post 812, Titus wrote:Snowstorm, you think all my scumreads suck? Why do they suck?
Who are your townreads?
Let's see if we can talk on your nulls.
Btw, regarding your scumreads, are you effectively scum reading all of them or are they just the players you'd pick to lynch out of their respective hoods?-
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In post 818, Titus wrote:Snowstorm, is there more to Rubik than overwhelmed? Also, let's talk about SKOT.
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[I started typing this 10 pages ago, so there's a chance this post will seem a little time-displaced ]
Of the possible lynch candidates, from the X-ternals hood I think Eek would indeed be the best choice, given the objectives and info. I have town reads on both Titus and Brian and I feel good in general about Feu and bork. As for the Outcasts, I have a town read on Rubik and a positive impression on Rogue, Pere is absent and that leaves Toogeloo and Cloud9.
After going through Toogeloo's ISO, I don't think I'd mind his lynch. I can't really tell what it is but there's something about him that makes me lean scum, I think it's the tone of his posts and his approach. The spoiler wall feels odd, as if he's trying to fit in. Then there's this post:In post 665, Toogeloo wrote:
Are we even playing Mafia anymore? If we policy lynch, we are putting all our faith in power roles winning the game for us and relying very little on our abilities to hunt scum.In post 628, Nero Cain wrote:mollie, we are considering a "pl" to achieve a objective...
By conceding a PL, all we've done is state that no one gives a flying fuck to figure out scum, scum are more than welcome to jump aboard without reason, and we'll just try to let our Night Actions give us direction down the road.
This is part of the reason I stopped playing big games. Starting on a Saturday morning hurts as well. Weekends are my worst times to get involved in Mafia.In post 655, Ultimate Life Form wrote:Also if this posting rate continues at this speed tomorrow I will have to slow down my posting rate cause I will have to check all the shit on the computer.
Seriously? Is this a roll over and die post, or an appeal to emotion? I didn't want your lynch today, but your attitude towards being lynched feels so numb, so you're either town trying to do what you (stupidly) think is the right thing to do even though there is plenty of time still to change opinion, or you are making a shoulder shrug post hoping that it appeals to people that you are doing what I just formerly posted.In post 661, My Milked Eek wrote:I stopped reading at page 20.
Vote: My Milked Eek
You'd better lynch Titus tomorrow.
Where's your fight?
The first and second paragraphs verge on those "look at me, I'm town" kind of posts. Then I don't like his reaction to Eek's self-vote. It's like he's trying to turn something that actually looks good into something bad. And the wording "I didn't want to lynch you today but... this makes me want to lynch you". He doesn't say exactly that but it is implied that he changed his mind about not wanting to lynch him and that it was caused by Eek's reaction to his possible lynch.
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Cloud Nine seems worse than I remembered. First of all, they have an overly aggressive tone, which I don't really like. I also don't like how he went against SKOT, he accuses him of being either scum or a dumbass, but I can't tell where the line between those two is. I mean, he makes that differentiation but he seems to be pushing stupidity and bad play as a scum tell.
I got two scum reads now. Yay!-
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In post 1056, Nero Cain wrote:Snowstorm, were you a fringe fan?
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In post 480, Toogeloo wrote:
I agree with this. We should at the very least try to start working on objectives.In post 156, RubikAshtray wrote:The lynchpool is composed by the following players:
borkjerfkin
feu et vol
titus
brian skies
my milked eek
cloud nine
toogeloo
rogue
rubikashtray
peregrinev
In your first post, you agree with Rubik that we should start working on the objectives and you develop a scum read on Cloud 9.
Now you come back, say "fuck the objectives" and vote two players from the two previously unvoted hoods, but what for? If all you wanted was to push for Cloud, you could do so and you'd be trading objective #1 for a better chance to hit scum. But by doing what you just did, the only thing you accomplished was ruining objective #5 for two hoods in exchange of nothing.
So wtf went through your head to make you change your mind like that and fuck it up like that?
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What could justify the risk he's taking? Maybe Eek or Titus being scum? It would still be a bold move and it would only switch attentions from one of his partners to him. So, I think he'd only do this if they really didn't want us to get one of the abilities... The more I think about this the harder I find it to believe that Loo's actions were scum motivated.
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In post 1117, Toogeloo wrote:The gamestate in and of itself has allowed people to coast and just discuss abilities. It's near impossible to develop reads on anyone, especially those that were in the two Neighborhoods that weren't going to get voted on. You guys essentially gave everyone in those hoods a free pass to agree, disagree, go absent, etc.
I've been sitting here sifting through isos and most all of them are just discussion about setup and how best to get abilities. Hell, most of the lynch discussions have been revolving around Policy Lynching instead of picking scum. Even Eek's wagon was largely considered a Policy Lynch.
Now that Sonic/Mastina are free to be voted, you should be happy Nero. You've been harping about them being scum all game day.
The only think that bothers me with you is that you had no problem with the gamestate when you first posted. You had no problem with focusing only in half of the players and working towards fulfilling the objectives. So this change of mind comes of as unnatural.-
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In post 1122, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1120, SnowStorm wrote:the harder I find it to believe that Loo's actions were scum motivated.
they sure as hell weren't town motivated.
It was apparently self-motivated as he put himself and his interests above town's.
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In post 1134, Cloud Nine wrote:bork, you're okay. I appreciated that someone else would actually try to create some town unity.
But, sadly, the playerbase nowadays is two headstrong. So I'm a top scumread now for planning, trying to convince people to follow plans, getting angry and players for ignoring me, and being absent for twelve hours.
Argh.
"It's not me, it's them"? That's your excuse for the scumreads on you?-
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In post 1411, Macaronis and Cheese wrote:Well, no, but your flavor claim is certainly the weakest, especially considering Nightcrawler is also a leader of a group that doesn't exist in this game (X-Calibre).
To be fair, with twenty players in the game, we can't all be Jean Greys and Magnetos (Magnetoes?).-
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In post 1580, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1570, Titus wrote:Nero, we were focusing on one neighborhood. Neighborhoods are majority town. Half the game didn't even care. He reinvigorated interest in the game.
nope, other then nerfing town objectives andgiving scum a wider mislynch pool, [...]
Why do you keep saying that? We don't know how scum is divided among the hoods, but if we assume it is balanced (we have no way to know if it isn't), then the chances to mislynch increased with the chances to lynch scum, thus staying the same. So it's not like by expanding the lynch pool he was increasing our chance to mislynch.-
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In post 1559, Feu et Vol wrote:Quick version of my scum read on Titus will do long version later.
Titus is not pushing things well and is constantly just screaming I am Town listen to me. Not to mention their push on Venmar makes no sense what so ever to me. Lastly and majorly is their push on Marquis. They straight up refuse to listen to any sort of logic about why Marquis wouldn't troll. Trolling is normally anti-town imo but here it would be equivalent to out right just disrupting any of the town people from getting anything done especially towards the objectives. I have also only seen Marquis troll when in the Doduo hydra.(not sure what Meta Titus brought up earlier but I didn't look at it because it said Newbie and I discredit all Newbie games as Meta anything because Newbie games have a completely different feel and dynamic about them than any other games on the site) Then there is the fact that the game started out of thread in the neighborhoods so there was already a serious feel to it. Trolling would have just been asinine.
Titus is tunneling our slot but doesn't seem to mention us for people they want lynched for the day. They always mention Eek and Venmar. Not the people who they are screaming from high heavens is scum. When it comes to us they say: "When I flip town they will be obvious scum." If they were so convinced we are scum why not vote us?
Actually I am content with this post but if you want more let me know.
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You failed to explain how those points point towards her being scum. All I see is a big post explaining how Titus is not having an optimal town play.
"Titus is not pushing things well" - What does that mean? How is that a scum tell?
"is constantly just screaming I am Town listen to me" - Again, how is this a scum tell?
"their push on Venmar makes no sense what so ever" - Since when is making no sense a sign of scum?
What's all that about trolling?
And that last paragraph, what? You're arguing that Titus tunneling on you but not being convinced/not voting you is a scum tell? Why would she do that as scum? I mean, why would she tunnel on you as scum if she had no intention to mislynch you?-
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In post 1596, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1592, SnowStorm wrote:In post 1580, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1570, Titus wrote:Nero, we were focusing on one neighborhood. Neighborhoods are majority town. Half the game didn't even care. He reinvigorated interest in the game.
nope, other then nerfing town objectives andgiving scum a wider mislynch pool, [...]
Why do you keep saying that? We don't know how scum is divided among the hoods, but if we assume it is balanced (we have no way to know if it isn't), then the chances to mislynch increased with the chances to lynch scum, thus staying the same. So it's not like by expanding the lynch pool he was increasing our chance to mislynch.
'cause its very likely to be true? Unless scum are bunched up in my hood and some other hood then Toog nerfing the objective of two hoods and opening up the lynch pool seems like it would only help scum.
Well, we don't know that and I think it's a little to early to be assuming certain hoods have more scum in them than others...
Rogue wrote:In post 1593, Speaker for the Dead wrote:do you really think macandcheese are town?
I'm not really sure regarding them
I wouldn't kick and scream against a wagon on them, but I want to pursue Snowstorm.
I don't like how he automatically jumped to the defensive with just a few votes on him
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In post 1602, Nero Cain wrote:Titus isn't helping town at all. She's either scum with bad logic or town with bad logic that's cluttering up this thread so I say utility lynch her.
But Toog/ULF/SOD are all really scummy too. and Rouge is p scummy me thinks but that could just be NS being wrong as shit.
So lets talk about Toog/speaker and ULF. What are your reads there?
Titus is town. Loo is town. Rogue is TBD, so is ULF.
As for Speaker, I was starting to really like them up until they started their anti-Aronis campaign out of nowhere. I'm still not sure what to make of it.-
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In post 1604, Rogue wrote:In post 1595, SnowStorm wrote:What's the deal with the votes on me? Like where the hell did that came from?
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lol, trying to call me scum
I've got more town in my pinky toe than you have in your entire body
Are you under the influence of hallucinogenics? I'm just asking, why did those two players suddenly decide to waste their votes and time on me?-
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In post 1607, Feu et Vol wrote:
1. Titus seems to believe as town they are a godsend. If this were to be true then their logic would be easy to follow. It is not easy to follow here. They find the littlest things and just harp on the relentlessly. This is a scum tell because scum have to do everything they can to get a mislynch and they have to find the littlest things to push them with.
2. This is a scum tell because most of their posts are just that. Screaming that they are town and should be listened too. It doesn't come off as genuine town frustration but scum frustration that they can't get a single person to listen to the convuluted reasons to scum-read people. They also can't back down though because that would be a scum claim because apparently Town Titus tunnels people to death.
3.There should at least be some sort of followable logic in their push on Venmar but I don't see it. I classify their push their just like the push on Marquis based on nothing but tells that aren't real.
4. Titus thinks that town Marquis should troll in every game or else they are scum. They don't care the situation or the circumstances they just want Marquis to troll.
5. Why would town scream and shout about how scum I am but yet not vote me? It is Titus being able to later come back to once again push my mislynch. They know they won't get it today so they have to reserve it for later. The tunneling part goes back to the fact that Town Titus apparently tunnels people so Titus has to continue to tunnel me or else they would no longer look town to people, in their own eyes.
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How is titus town?
Ok, so that's all mostly based on Titus meta and your perceptions of what scum do and don't do, which seem very generalized. For example, I don't agree that a town push has to make some logic. I don't think scum do everything they can to get a mislynch. And they don't save mislynches for later when they're more likely to get lynched first.
I think you're doing what you're describing in point 4. (Well, not exactly that, but the same principle). You're tunneling on her based on your Titus and scum meta and you're not putting any effort to contextualize it to the situation of this particular game and player. You're forcing it all into a scum read.
Titus is town because I just don't see that play coming from scum. Sure she says a lot of crap and doesn't know when to stop, but I get a genuine town feeling from her posts. I also think that she wouldn't be such a big distraction if she weren't and that the quality of her posts would be better if people would stop pushing crap on her too.-
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In post 1612, Speaker for the Dead wrote:In post 1606, SnowStorm wrote:
As for Speaker, I was starting to really like them up until they started their anti-Aronis campaign out of nowhere. I'm still not sure what to make of it.
it didn't really come out of nowhere I mean you have access to the qt and this thread so
You went all anti-Aronis once you figured he was playing and it was all of a sudden. Not knowing the whole story, it was as if it came out of nowhere to me. It was a sudden shift in your game that I can't justify.-
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In post 1621, Titus wrote:In post 1609, SnowStorm wrote:In post 1604, Rogue wrote:In post 1595, SnowStorm wrote:What's the deal with the votes on me? Like where the hell did that came from?
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lol, trying to call me scum
I've got more town in my pinky toe than you have in your entire body
Are you under the influence of hallucinogenics? I'm just asking, why did those two players suddenly decide to waste their votes and time on me?
Sometimes you have to vote a player to get a read. Their both town and working together. Sometimes you have to trust them to get to the right conclusion. Don't antagonize unnecessarily. I only use it when really overtly frustrated. A misunderstood wagon is insufficient.
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In post 1665, Rogue wrote:
Me and majiffy don't agree on a scumread and neither of us minds if snowstorm flips
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In post 1862, ika wrote:Oh wait it was a fake dayvig?
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN............ I was really hoping to be lazy now in dead chat
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In post 1907, borkjerfkin wrote:
Not only has Toog pretty much done nothing in that span to warrant the hard townread (especially after 1121 which doesn't really jive with how sure he is that toog is town cause that should be a pretty legitimate concern), but I can't empathize with a hard townread of Toog AT ALL resulting from vote-all-the-neighborhoods-gate; once again, the possibility of setting the objectives back under the guise of 'scumhunting more' and 'putting a higher % of scum in the lynch pool' is still a pretty obvious potential scum motivation that people are just dismissing out of hand because ????
Especially because toog hasn't exactly come out and flexed a whole lot of scumhunting chops since he did that whole thing (he's made a few information relaying posts I guess). If toog came in and actually started scumhunting with a wide breadth as a result of his vote thing, that's when you can make the argument he's town for doing it.
It doesn't matter to me what Toog has done since the fuck up, it matters to me why he did it in the first place. The progression you quoted should show you my thought process, which in itself should tell you that I actually thought about it and how it affected my read on Loo instead of just adding it to my scum read on him.
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In post 1912, Nero Cain wrote:Snow was really really wrong about Toog about how he wasn't giving scum a larger mislynch pool.
but if I say "well he's opening up a bigger lynch pool" and you say "well we don't know that there are more town in those other hoods." Isn't tat assuming that there is more scum in the two hoods that were being voted for? We know there are atleast 6 town in those other hoods so unless you want to argue that all 4 scum are in those two hoods then yea...it seems like there'd more town and thus opening us up to more possible mislynches.
I also thought he was p scummy early game when he said "I don't have scumreads on anyone in my hood" but that's when I was under the impression that this was more of a setup and not randomly distributed but even then, I guess it's still possible that scumstorm could that if he's the only one in his hood *shrugz* but I get the same feeling from him as I did in ny172 so yeah....
I still think there's much better d1 lynches in like Titus, Toog, maybe SKOT, I am SUPER surprised that cloud 9 isn't getting ran up.
I didn't follow up to that post because I don't understand the logic behind it and I still think you were making a wrong assumption. We don't know the distribution of scum between the hoods, so it is safer to assume that they're equally distributed and that the odds of lynching scum in between 10 players are the same as in 20. Yes, it is a bigger lynch pool, but it doesn't matter because the odds are the same.-
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In post 1913, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1911, SnowStorm wrote:It doesn't matter to me what Toog has done since the fuck up, it matters to me why he did it in the first place.
I am in totes disagreement here. I think Toog scum could easily go "yeah, I did something with no town benefit and actually harmed the town but...I just wanted to shake things up." I equally dislike the fact that he was trying to get me to switch my focus from him/titus and talk about ULF (even though I have been despite him claiming that I haven't.) and then him not following up on it.
I don't have any Toog meta so idk, but I still think his actions were too risky for scum and not worth the trouble. The only scenario where I could see it being more worthy is if scum were more likely to get lynched before, which could mean Titus-Scum or Eek-scum and I'm town reading both of them.
borkjerfkin wrote:In post 1911, SnowStorm wrote:It doesn't matter to me what Toog has done since the fuck up, it matters to me why he did it in the first place.
I'm just really surprised that you're just super-oversimplifying the obvious WIFOM aspect of what you're talking about in 1116-1120, especially where there are supplemental things like 1121 that should be murking up the read for you and no real evidence that 'why he did it in the first place' is actually a thing that he cares about.
As far as your own question about what is the scum motivation: you can't deny that what he did had a tangible anti-town component and by definition creates potential scum motivation, even if obviously can't be proven one way or the other.
Well, sure, I don't think his actions were straight town tells; like you say there's a WIFOM aspect to it that leaves some room for doubt, that in itself is enough for me to not want to lynch him. Besides I thought the town scenario was more likely, so for the sake of keeping it simple and narrowing down suspects, I'm calling him town.-
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In post 1924, Nero Cain wrote:
The bolded was my point. But of the two hoods that were originally being targeted, its not like everyone was lynchable. As bork said, its WIFOU but I think there's plenty of scum motivation to add to a pool of potential mislynches. Also, the part out not following up wasn't about you, it was about Toog who basically tried to get me to shift my focus onto UFL and then never followed up on that.
So you think there are more scum in those two hoods than in the other two? And/or that the scum there were more likely to get lynched?-
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In post 1935, Nero Cain wrote:IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHERE THE SCUM ARE!
We had a list of 10 people that we were going to lynch from, atleast 6 of those 10 were town. Toog voting for two hoods adds ATLEAST 6 more town and therefore increases the scum mislynch pool. Jesus fucking Christ, now I almost want to lynch you for being as dense as all fuck.
This doesn't seem like a wise decision, but I'm going to reply. SO. What if you see it from a different perspective? We had a list of 10 people that we were going to lynch from, at least 4 of those 10 were scum. Toog voting for two hoods adds at least 4 more scum and therefore increases the scum lynch pool. So, sure there are more town added to the mix of possible mislynches, but it's all in proportion with the scum added to the mix of possible successful lynches. SO the only way Toog's actions prejudice us is if there are more scum in those two first hoods, which we don't know.-
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In post 1950, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1945, SnowStorm wrote:at least 4 of those 10 were scum. Toog voting for two hoods adds at least 4 more scum
bullshit. 8 scum in a 20 player game? oh fuck no.
In post 1945, SnowStorm wrote:SO the only way Toog's actions prejudice us is if there are more scum in those two first hoods, which we don't know.
nope, there's only like 4-5 scum in this game. He added ATLEAST 6 more town into the scum mislynch pool. Thanks to his actions they now have atleast 15-16 townies as where with the two hoods they only had anywhere from 6-10.
hey bork, snow flips scum? do we lynch toog or is this scum defending town?
vote:Snowstorm
...I was just picking it out from your numbers! 10-6=4... Math and balance are not my strong suit. ...And yet you decide to vote me for apparently suggesting 8 scum, when if I was scum I'd know exactly how much scum there are and we wouldn't be having this conversation.-
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In post 1961, Rogue wrote:wasn't this snow wagon stupid when I was the one who initially suggested it
Because I remember nero telling me my reads were shit and now he's joined the wagon I kicked off
If it is of any comfort to you, it still is a stupid wagon.-
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In post 1971, Nero Cain wrote:
...I was just picking it out from your numbers! 10-6=4... Math and balance are not my strong suit. ...And yet you decide to vote me for apparently suggesting 8 scum, when if I was scum I'd know exactly how much scum there are and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I'm voting you for being way dense here. It really doesn't matter how many scum are in each hood. Toog nerfing the other 2 hoods is adding to the scums mislynch pool period.[/quote]
Fine, whatever, you've proven your point, now go put your vote on scum.-
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In post 1978, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1974, SnowStorm wrote:Fine, whatever, you've proven your point, now go put your vote on scum.
So help me lynch Titus
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In post 1982, ika wrote:In post 1981, SnowStorm wrote:In post 1978, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1974, SnowStorm wrote:Fine, whatever, you've proven your point, now go put your vote on scum.
So help me lynch Titus
Titus is town. Pick someone else.
I will take that as a scum claim.
VOTE: snow
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In post 1987, Nero Cain wrote:@Snow and Titus-reads on UFL, SKOT, SOD and a short blurb why please.
Ugh, acronyms. UFL - Null, because I haven't seen anything from them that made me lean one way or the other. SKOT - Very weak town, because of their tone and because of Cloud's push on them. SOD - Weak town because I liked their posts until they started butting heads with Macaroni because of gluten allergy.-
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Feu is town.
In post 2049, ika wrote:
where i find scums (snow is a stong canidate) is merly by posts and what i see as scum many times. his "oh i now have scum reads" is a common newb scum thing they will say b/c they cant have any "real" scum reads (unless if they are bussing allies/distancing/ect)
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In post 2127, Majiffy wrote:I've already said I'm tabling Eek/Titus for today, or are you not reading?
I don't interact with scumbutts.
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In post 2144, Speaker for the Dead wrote:
cos you are?
ika thinks you are newbscum and from ika's perspective he thinks the game is easily solvable. it makes me lean town on ika but he is useless when it comes down to working with townreads or anything outside of his mindset. cos he simply won't.
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In post 2145, Titus wrote:The wagon on Snowstorm is 100% town. I know scum generally like to keep 1 off the wagon when mislynching me... but he appears town.
Who is Snowstorm an alt of? I've never played with them.
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In post 2167, Majiffy wrote:In post 2165, Titus wrote:Because I can see his thought process and his communication, he's been clear and I don't see his views coming from a scum perspective. Toog would be easy to scumread at this point, but Snow wouldn't do it. I'd be easy to scumread, he won't do it. Plus the reasons I already mentioned.
I don't see him being scum. Why is Snow scum?
Skating by, fence-sitting, no original thought, the usual suspects.
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In post 2191, Majiffy wrote:Now are you going to give your own reasons why I'm scum or are you just going to parrot Mollie's paranoia?
You voted me for no reason, sheeping Rogue. When you did give some reasons (just now), they were not alignment indicative. You're not justifying a vote or a scum read, you're just trying to make me look bad by accusing me of stuff like fencesitting and not giving original opinions and calling my posts and reactions bad. There's not a single instance where you appear to be trying to get a read on me.
By not giving reasons to suspect me or interacting with me you give me no way to defend myself and prove you wrong. Basically, I can't deny any of your accusations because there aren't any. And yet you're pushing for my lynch. This allows you to just keep pushing me because eventually those reasons will come. For example, saying my reaction to the votes on me was "bad", as if there was any good reaction. By voting me you expected me to react and no matter how I did it you could just call it bad; from them on it's a domino effect. You keep pushing crap on me as if you're owning this and I'll keep reacting and giving you more "reasons" to keep pushing me. It's the same thing that happened with Titus.
I'm used to this. As Speaker accurately noted, I am lynchbait and every game there's one smartass scumfuck that tries pulling this crap on me.-
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In post 2194, Majiffy wrote:Tell me why not. The ISO screams scum to me. I've already elaborated on a few reasons why.
And if you want something recent, look at how eagerly Snow decided to start conveniently scumreading me and using all of Mollie's arguments to do so.
See what I mean? Look how now you're falsely accusing me of scum reading you using someone else's arguments. This is bullshit and you know it. And nice touch with the "conveniently".
In post 2205, Majiffy wrote:In post 2203, Rogue wrote:I wouldn't be too against wagoning noodles and moldy dairy products.
I think we're onto something good with SnowStorm. The entirety of reactions to the wagon has been discredit and flaccid OMGUS.
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In post 2229, Cloud Nine wrote:Yeah after the last few pages I feel pretty good about a Titus lynch regardless of ika.
Of course you do, you're scum, lol.
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