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You did though. You were like, uh I'm just gonna hammer. Okay you do it. I'll do it, no I wanna stay off for moral and personal reasons.
That was after katsuki finally showed up and started talking about the too many investigative claims, which by the way is the only person to actually notice that too even though I brought it up.
Notscience had shown up and was voting for Nacho.
I just don't get your behavior at all.Half troll/Half wall.
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Is that actually a sentence that you wrote?In post 6351, CarbonFiber wrote:
If DV didn't want to hammer, he wouldn't have.In post 6349, Titan wrote:You did though. You were like, uh I'm just gonna hammer. Okay you do it. I'll do it, no I wanna stay off for moral and personal reasons.
That was after katsuki finally showed up and started talking about the too many investigative claims, which by the way is the only person to actually notice that too even though I brought it up.
Notscience had shown up and was voting for Nacho.
I just don't get your behavior at all.
I think I mentioned too that there were too many investigative claims as well. More than once I think.
If you had said not to hammer as opposed to being passive about it, I think I would have waited too.I just didn't see what else was going to come out of D3 other than the same old thing. Yeah, NotScience had shown up and wanted to wait a bit but I thought the chances of him getting killed were so miniscule that it didn't matter.
Idk, I was just frustrated enough that I wanted to see D3 end. I've kinda been like that this whole game which turned out to be a pretty huge mess.Half troll/Half wall.
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I sort of want to reembrace my stalin town read after ffery leaving due to being spoiled, but I hate that they sent their report to JSU after yesterday because I don't feel like I can trust them or anything that they say.
It was nice of AP to say his report failed rather than send us into more confusion after yesterday. I'd have just thought he was lying too.Half troll/Half wall.
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They got it yesterday before the day ended. Ffery said it before night.
Also, I think I'm going off the deep end as I've been positing all investigative roles are part of the scum team.Half troll/Half wall.
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Although if you protected ffery then I guess that means that they are town so my all investigative scum team theory is out.
Still hate the report being sent to JSU though.Half troll/Half wall.
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Answer my other questions please and thank you!In post 6368, Just Sheep Us wrote:
what kind of shit do you think the scumteam has where the game would be over at 7v4?In post 6336, Titan wrote:I did expect this game to be over though. I thought with the way yesterday went down and the annoying as fuck way that lynch happened, falcon looking at you, that scum had a way to end this game.
Also did you get a report from Ffery?Half troll/Half wall.
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He was a delayer. He would not have been told if his role failed or went through.
According to him, he delayed AP and the only thing he knew was he was either blocked, which he thought unlikely, or that AP was a beast and a fake claimer.
I just find it convenient that someone you were claiming was obvious town, who would be the prime mislynch target for LyLo, just got dropped for no reason and losing any possibility or understanding that this is a complicated game and went full heave-ho on that.Half troll/Half wall.
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Is there someone else who went oh tammy you're right maybe all the investigative claims do sound odd? Because all I remember is katsuki bringing up too many investigative roles and me saying no else commented because no one here cares.In post 6375, Just Sheep Us wrote:
this still isn't even remotely accurateIn post 6349, Titan wrote:That was after katsuki finally showed up and started talking about the too many investigative claims, which by the way is the only person to actually notice that too even though I brought it up.
What is your problem by the way?Half troll/Half wall.
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The only other person I remember really trying to suggest that Cupcake was still town is Peregrine.
Falcon was too but mostly by a very complicated version in which AP was scum without JSU being scum.Half troll/Half wall.
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OH you're referring to day two and talking to Bork. I thought you meant you were quizzing Bork over night, and I was like huh?In post 6374, AngryPidgeon wrote:
I wanted to know what was going on?In post 6370, Titan wrote:Why were you pressing Bork on it?
Cabd implied that I shouldn't get back anything if I were straight up blocked but he was being a little dodgy so I wasnt sure.
My original theory is that Kagura was a Mafia Ascetic or something and I was able to "target" them but my role failed. I thought it could be a sign that mafia let me target them, knowing my role would fail. They were also largely considered town at the time so idk. I think its possible I -was- targeted for a kill or a block but Mac's role stopped it which makes Kagura just whatever at that point and probably town.
I dont really think Im going to get anything out of waffling on that forever though since its pretty damn wifomy.Half troll/Half wall.
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Yes, I remember his attempts to say that AP was a godfather ala vesperia, but no one talked to me after I laid out all the claims and questions with the setup. Though I think he did point out that Nacho was scum from it.In post 6387, Just Sheep Us wrote:
yes, falcon did. he already told you like 10 posts ago that he, too, was erroneously questioning the existence of multiple investigative roles that can't catch scum by designIn post 6380, Titan wrote:Is there someone else who went oh tammy you're right maybe all the investigative claims do sound odd? Because all I remember is katsuki bringing up too many investigative roles and me saying no else commented because no one here cares.
What is your problem by the way?
Look, your credibility is absolutely shot with me and I have no idea why you're approaching me like an overaggressive asshole. If your opinion of my alignment changed over night, savvy, otherwise save your pompous antics for someone who still thinks you have a handle on this game and should be listened to.
IE...NOT ME.Half troll/Half wall.
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Also it does not matter if Bro was the one who had the town read on Katsuki and you didn't.
Bro was here and posting yesterday and didn't seem to have any issues with declaring his previous oh so certain town read was scum.Half troll/Half wall.
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AP - Why would it be any different than the one you got the previous night, why'd you submit them if you already had an innocent on them, and I thought there was a third. Maybe not.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 6405, Just Sheep Us wrote:
You suspect the claimed vig?In post 6336, Titan wrote:In other news, I now suspect everyone.
You suspect the miller who CC'd a miller fakeclaim?
Really?
YEP!!!Half troll/Half wall.
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I didn't say that. But you showed no hesitation, no trying to figure things out, just a clear leap. That doesn't make sense to me.In post 6415, Just Sheep Us wrote:
Oh yes, PR resolution strongly implying that I was wrong about a read means I should be really stubborn and undynamic, because I've never read a player wrong ever.In post 6391, Titan wrote:Also it does not matter if Bro was the one who had the town read on Katsuki and you didn't.
Bro was here and posting yesterday and didn't seem to have any issues with declaring his previous oh so certain town read was scum.
Obviously.Half troll/Half wall.
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Well then don't say you would have held off if I'd not been passive about it. I wasn't shy about how I felt about that lynch and the entire situation and didn't want the day to end there.In post 6406, CarbonFiber wrote:
Look, I am just as pissed off as you are about no one listening that Cupcake was town. I just didn't feel that anything would change. I am not sure if you think I as scum decided to burn all towncred from his townflip by deciding that I want to hammer instead of just shutting up and letting someone else do it. (Or, making a show of how I wouldn't hammer). I as town thought that Kats was town. I as town didn't want to vote him because I didn't want to contribute to yet another mislynch. I as town waffled on hammering him because if his lynch was a foregone conclusion, I want it to end sooner rather than later.In post 6383, Titan wrote:The only other person I remember really trying to suggest that Cupcake was still town is Peregrine.
Falcon was too but mostly by a very complicated version in which AP was scum without JSU being scum.
And I said plenty of times that there were too many investigative roles. I just happened to disagree with you on JSU, townreading them while scumreading AP.
I gave up worrying because you looked like scum posturing around the wagon there at the end and the only reason I could figure out that you would do that was because you guys had some way to end the game through night actions.
And part of my problem is that you're not actually looking at everything. You're discounting some things because you have a *strong read* which is fine but coming up with new ways that AP is scum without for one second considering the possibility that JSU is scum is a whole metric fuckton of confirmation bias. I, for one, don't see how you can be so sure. I have postulated that you are so sure because you guys are partnered because it's really the only reason why you've been going on about AP but not really pushing him and then using the Mastin scum read AP so he's scum scum scum! When Mastin isn't all that great at reading AP; I mean in Anything Goes he was 100% certain AP was scum when he was town telling like crazy. The day two suggestion that it should be AP instead of Mastin after you declared that Pieguy was the only person you trusted to lead the town and Pieguy was tunneling on Mastin. Why did you all of a sudden decide to suggest the day should go away from where the leader was saying to go? In some instances you look like you're trying to tie your partner AP to people in a weird manner.
But you going yeah there are too many investigative roles, have a town read here and here, so this has to be the scum one doesn't really make sense to me. I can see leaning one way, but completely discounting everything else? It's just eh.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 6423, Just Sheep Us wrote:
so you have a role pm in your box that confirms ap as town and confirms that he visited stalin, and then katsuki comes blazing in with 100% confidence that his action was successful and that ap is a lying scumbagIn post 6420, Titan wrote:I didn't say that. But you showed no hesitation, no trying to figure things out, just a clear leap. That doesn't make sense to me.
and you're saying you would dither and daddle and "try to figure it out"?!?!?!
ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY.
I *thought* both your heads were a little more conscientious and concerned with trying to figure out this game.
MY BAD.Half troll/Half wall.
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Bring the syrup!In post 6426, AngryPidgeon wrote:Tammy, can I join you in Fort Waffles?Half troll/Half wall.
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Not really. Last night I was congratulating her and her scum team after the hammer and when I postulated the game was over with night actions because I really couldn't see the way yesterday went down going down if it didn't immensely benefit scum but would be detrimental to them if the game went to day, she responded that me being paranoid made her think I was scum because numbers numbers something numbers balance. Who the fuck knows, but anyone who's ever played a game with me knows I'm shit for balance and numbers so whatever. Anyway I thought the reaction was most likely scum because scum wouldn't know how to react to that level of paranoia especially since her response was "you must know something I don't know" which didn't make sense to me.In post 6416, AngryPidgeon wrote:Tammy, do you have any super interesting revelations about PA from the neighborhood?
I keep going back and forth on Penguin. She did give me something I'm hoping to be able to figure out how to use in a way that benefits town, but if she's scum then that's all for naught.
Anyway, yeah I don't really know. I didn't talk to her last night really because I thought the game was ending and was so frustrated about how the game went. Right now, I just think the games a big mess, town has pretty much no chance, and I have no clue how to even being trying to parse through this mess and see if one of you guys are lying or if you're telling the truth, or really who scum is at all. I just suspect everyone.Half troll/Half wall.
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I HAVE NO IDEA.In post 6429, Just Sheep Us wrote:
speaking of answering questionsIn post 6425, Titan wrote:I gave up worrying because you looked like scum posturing around the wagon there at the end and the only reason I could figure out that you would do that was because you guys had some way to end the game through night actions.
what did you think the scumteam could have that would end the game at 7v4 in night?
i didn't even know it was 7v4 until Penguin said it was impossible. I still think it would be possible and part of that I'm not going to explain.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 6438, Just Sheep Us wrote:In post 6435, Titan wrote:Not really. Last night I was congratulating her and her scum team after the hammer and when I postulated the game was over with night actions because I really couldn't see the way yesterday went down going down if it didn't immensely benefit scum but would be detrimental to them if the game went to day, she responded that me being paranoid made her think I was scum because numbers numbers something numbers balance. Who the fuck knows, but anyone who's ever played a game with me knows I'm shit for balance and numbers so whatever. Anyway I thought the reaction was most likely scum because scum wouldn't know how to react to that level of paranoia especially since her response was "you must know something I don't know" which didn't make sense to me.WHAT KIND OF POWERS COULD THE SCUMTEAM POSSIBLY HAVE THAT WOUND END THE GAME IN NIGHT PHASE AT 7V4?????????
Gosh I wish I would have seen this fucking bullshit first so I could have ignored your arrogant ass.Half troll/Half wall.
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are you asking me why I don't run around keeping a tally of who is alive or isn't?In post 6441, Just Sheep Us wrote:
how did you not know it was 7v4In post 6439, Titan wrote:i didn't even know it was 7v4 until Penguin said it was impossible. I still think it would be possible and part of that I'm not going to explain.
Is this a question just to make fun of how little I pay attention to these things or is this relevant to my alignment in any way.
I mean because if you're going to argue me being paranoid the scum team has something up their sleeves and used yesterday to propel it is anything other than me freaking out as town that the game was over then I have no clue what world you live in. and since that should be the only conclusion you can come to then this line of questioning is just serving for you to appear arrogant and call me dumb which I don't think is very relevant to the game state.Half troll/Half wall.
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I answered it when i saw it the second time.In post 6443, Just Sheep Us wrote:
i've literally asked you that same question three times since the day started. you even quoted it once and chastized me for not answering all of your questions!In post 6442, Titan wrote:Gosh I wish I would have seen this fucking bullshit first so I could have ignored your arrogant ass.
I ignored it the first time for being overly aggressive and annoying.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 6439, Titan wrote:I still think it would be possible and part of that I'm not going to explain.Half troll/Half wall.
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THE GAME COULD HAVE ENDED LAST NIGHT.
Jesus fucking christ.
Oh so riddle me this mister?
What is my scum motivation to freak out and make up some ridiculous notion of what might or might not happen.
But please call me dumb one more time. I appreciate it!Half troll/Half wall.
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You are calling me dumb when you're coming after me because I don't just pick up and look at the numbers.
You're yelling at me about it not making sense when it doesn't really fucking matter.
It was a belief that didn't happen because there weren't any extra deaths last night or any deaths so obviously I was wrong in what I expected to happen.
I don't get why there has to be pages telling me I'm dumb for being paranoid from the way the game went down. It's nothing I was pushing once it didn't happen but was a fear I had.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 6431, Just Sheep Us wrote:In post 6427, Titan wrote:I *thought* both your heads were a little more conscientious and concerned with trying to figure out this game.In post 6432, Just Sheep Us wrote:seriously, fuck you tammy
well don't yell at me from day start if you don't want me to push back.Half troll/Half wall.
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I don't look at vote counts. Well I rarely do.In post 6460, Just Sheep Us wrote:
once again, you are the only one calling yourself dumbIn post 6459, Titan wrote:You are calling me dumb when you're coming after me because I don't just pick up and look at the numbers.
You're yelling at me about it not making sense when it doesn't really fucking matter.
It was a belief that didn't happen because there weren't any extra deaths last night or any deaths so obviously I was wrong in what I expected to happen.
I don't get why there has to be pages telling me I'm dumb for being paranoid from the way the game went down. It's nothing I was pushing once it didn't happen but was a fear I had.
i do not think it is unreasonable to assume that every player would know how many people are alive. it's in the fucking vote count at the top of (nearly) every page.
And I don't see how having a fear that with the way yesterday went down me thinking that scum had a way to end the game with night actions will be stopped by looking at the numbers. And if it is an irrational fear, which maybe it might be maybe it wouldn't, why would numbers stop it anyway?Half troll/Half wall.
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OH please tell me more about how I'm scum because I'm not logical. Please.
Are you for fucking serious?
I hate this game. I hate this game. I hate this game.Half troll/Half wall.
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NO wait you tell me one thing desperado.
You're going falcon can't be scum because he can't keep up this level of play while at the same time arguing I could be scum.
Holy fucking shit. Has anyone seen my scum play because you can't use that argument for one and not the other.Half troll/Half wall.
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How is me being not being logical make me scum?In post 6466, AngryPidgeon wrote:
Uhhhh, its more than that though. You apparently started ranting that the game was over because scum could win....In post 6459, Titan wrote:You are calling me dumb when you're coming after me because I don't just pick up and look at the numbers.without knowing what the numbers are or bothering to check.
Do you not see the logical issue with that?Half troll/Half wall.
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you started with the coming after me for th 7v4 bullshit.In post 6463, Just Sheep Us wrote:
you are seeing ghostsIn post 6461, Titan wrote:well don't yell at me from day start if you don't want me to push back.
when was i yelling at you?Half troll/Half wall.
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Oh. My. Gods.In post 6474, Just Sheep Us wrote:In post 6472, Titan wrote:NO wait you tell me one thing desperado.
You're going falcon can't be scum because he can't keep up this level of play while at the same time arguing I could be scum.
Holy fucking shit. Has anyone seen my scum play because you can't use that argument for one and not the other.
too many heads > this game is not that big of a step
I'm just. Speechless.Half troll/Half wall.
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How have I been mysterious? I told you I'm waffling on PA. I told you I didn't talk to her much last night because I was frustrated about how things went down and I wasn't in the mood for game solving as I did think the game could be over anyway. Yes even with 7v4 or whatever.In post 6476, AngryPidgeon wrote:
I never said thatIn post 6469, Titan wrote:OH please tell me more about how I'm scum because I'm not logical. Please.
Also I'm trying to understand what went down in your neighborhood and you cant deny you are being mysterious about it.
Im trying to make some bit of sense out of all this and Im falling flat, sorry for trying to figure things out I guess.
The only thing I've been mysterious about is that PA gave me something which I'm trying to figure out how to use in a protown way. I said she confirmed her role to me yesterday and that I wasn't going to out it. If she's town, which I'm still trying to figure out, then this could really help town. If she's not, then it won't matter because scum know about it and she gave it to me just to make herself look good. I guess.Half troll/Half wall.
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I did not appreciate the way you asked it.In post 6480, Just Sheep Us wrote:a question that you blatantly dodged, by the way
pedit: speechless about what? you carried my brother and won in 7p lylo
What was my scum motivation for making that statement, and then what would be my scum motivation for ignoring it. And considering I already called you overly aggressive, it wouldn't take much to conclude I was referring to the way you were talking to me.
Did you read Too Many Heads? I didn't carry anyone. I have no idea why I wasn't lynched everyday of that game but it has nothing to do with me actually being good at that game or sustaining shit. I didn't do anything on a regular basis and made myself look busy occasionally. So please tell me more how this matches up to Anything Goes.
Serious question - Does Bro think I can be scum here?Half troll/Half wall.
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You know what. I'm going to let you read what I've already said, and let that one marinate.In post 6482, Just Sheep Us wrote:if you thought the game could have ended last night then surely you think it can end tonight, so why are you being cagey with this information? there is no tomorrow FYPOV
There's an obvious answer to that and I'm just gonna see if you can figure that out.
And right now, I'm going to go with giving you the same response I gave Penguin. I think scum don't know how to react when town gets paranoid. I think that a townsperson in this situation would be worried about how things were going down and probably would either get paranoid too or see that mine looks completely out there and try to explain it to me, not try to make me feel stupid for being paranoid in the first place.Half troll/Half wall.
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please don't ever fucking talk to me again.In post 6491, Just Sheep Us wrote:in case it wasn't clear: you should feel stupid for being paranoid that the game was going to end in night phase at 7v4 in the first place.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 6488, AngryPidgeon wrote:
No, there really isn't. Or Im just an idiot and dont see it.In post 6485, Titan wrote:There's an obvious answer to that and I'm just gonna see if you can figure that out.
I think me saying that I'm working on figuring out how to use it in a protown way. Why are you guys bugging me to out what if she's town and scum don't know what she gave me, it could be immensely beneficial for town?Half troll/Half wall.
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awesome.In post 6497, Just Sheep Us wrote:the feeling is mutual
you can act like a douchebag and act overly aggressive and hostile, call me dumb say you're not and then blatantly call me dumb and you get to feel all feelings mutual.
you are doing this on purpose.
I'm going to feel so fucking smug.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 6500, Just Sheep Us wrote:
because being cagey with info when you've already stated that you expected the game to be over already is fucking wackoIn post 6498, Titan wrote:I think me saying that I'm working on figuring out how to use it in a protown way. Why are you guys bugging me to out what if she's town and scum don't know what she gave me, it could be immensely beneficial for town?
please insult me one more time?
please please?
you're such a big awesome guy aren't you?Half troll/Half wall.
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WHAT DO YOU WANT?In post 6499, Red Gyarados wrote:I know, I have knack for voting scumfucks
Of course, you could just be complimenting my vote because you think I'm actually town, no?
Yet you act as though I'm a moron town voting obvtown you while wait- I'm a scumread of yours
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Bring it on AP you won't get anywhere
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I DIDN'T SEE YOU SAY ANYTHING, I'M TOO BUSY BEING TOLD I'M STUPID AND WACKO FOR THINKING THE GAME COULD END.
PROBABLY DON'T WANT AN ANSWER FROM ME.Half troll/Half wall.
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That's what I'm referring to.In post 6502, AngryPidgeon wrote:
I thought we were talking about "why the game could have ended" still, not whatever the hell PA gave you.In post 6498, Titan wrote:I think me saying that I'm working on figuring out how to use it in a protown way. Why are you guys bugging me to out what if she's town and scum don't know what she gave me, it could be immensely beneficial for town?
But, why are we still talking about me being paranoid?
Because unless you guys are going to turn this into some weird case for me being scum. OHMYGODS she's such obvious scum because she got paranoid and thought the game could end. Only scum would do that! Look she didn't even have the mindfulness to look at the numbers?!? Gotta be caught scum there.
Unless you're going to do that, the both of you are just engaging in this for a distraction.Half troll/Half wall.
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I'm not town reading anyone really.Half troll/Half wall.
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especially after I just got a mountain of shit piled on me because I thought the game could end because apparently only scum would worry about that?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
and I'm supposed to think these chucklefucks are town.Half troll/Half wall.
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I don't know how I'm reading him. I'm very interested to see what he comes in here and does today. He's felt detached in a sort of way that is also engaged. I did like some of his trolling-esque play where he was rhyming and talking about shots. I do like some of Bork's interactions and I like the way he gave the town read to Mastin and how he interacted with and about Mastin. That felt pretty real. I don't know what to feel about how strongly Nacho went after Mastin especially after town reading him. I'm definitely not as familiar with Mastin as Nacho is, and even I was finding some town things in his play that made me uncertain. I'm pretty eh on how he went into yesterday with the kat thing, and I thought that him saying that Kat might have a way to end the game in the night if he got town lynched was concerning, and I'm really surprised these chucklefucks here didn't pick up on that and instead have been piling on me because I thought that him saying that was a partial indication that he was scum and his team had something. Did you notice that des didn't yell at Nacho for that idea? Nope, let's make Tammy look dumb. Also there was something else nacho did that I liked.
Basically it comes down to a wait and see. I want to see what he does today.Half troll/Half wall.
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I postulated that the entire other neighborhood was scum and that's why they killed pie guy because they didn't want to keep up pretenses in the neighborhood, but then yesterdays debacle with me voting for falcon and him going oh this is what i predicted with nacho immediately telling me I sounded like nacho would require the three of them to be coming up with elaborate plans in the neighborhood, which would require foreknowledge that I was actually going to vote him, which is ennnnnnngggggggg.
So, unless he can read neighborhoods and saw me say that I was concerned about him, though I definitely wasn't certain then IDK. That whole neighborhood probably isn't scum then.Half troll/Half wall.
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What purpose would that serve?In post 6535, Just Sheep Us wrote:
What desp is gunning at is that it's bizarre that you would have thought that at all, so it seems like you're scum lying about being paranoid about something rather than being actually paranoid about something.In post 6509, Titan wrote:OHMYGODS she's such obvious scum because she got paranoid and thought the game could end.
Why didn't you, when Nacho pointed out that Kats could be fake claiming that he might have a way to end the game that night, jump at him? Was it because THAT fit the narrative for the way you wanted the game to go while my obvious genuine paranoia doesn't?
It makes no literal sense for anyone who's ever played a game or two with me to go oh but 7:4 the numbers the numbers, how doesn't this make sense to you. I've literally fucked it up when people did point out numbers and thought 11:4 meant with two mislynches scum would win. I get paranoid I don't know how or why that's shocking to anyone with experience with me. Hell in ASoIaF, I thought the game was ending days before it should have because I thought all the missing nightkills was evidence that scum could recruit people to mafia or kill people and they'd been recruiting people every night and had a huge mafia team. I'm not worried about that here, but I did think with the way yesterday went down it was evidence that scum had something up their sleeves and could end the game with night actions.
I just don't believe he made that big a fuss, not when he hydras with someone who probably is more paranoid that I am.
So, save it. Tell me what purpose did it serve for me to get worked up last night that scum could end the game and spend the night expecting it to happen. You tell me that.Half troll/Half wall.
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No, you do shit with that VC.In post 6540, Just Sheep Us wrote:Tammy, if you're town, I expect you to do a metric shitton with that VC.
I don't do VCA except if I'm in LyLo deciding who to vote for.
You really are trying to eat all the times you bragged about being good at this game and people should sheep you aren't?
Why are you "ordering" me to do something I don't fucking do.Half troll/Half wall.
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This is the last time you get to ever make this statement if you're town here and you throw one more pile of bullshit at me this game.In post 3679, Just Sheep Us wrote:Oh look, another game just ended that demonstrates that everyone should just sheep me.
Why are people not sheeping me?Half troll/Half wall.
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The problem I had with the way you treated Pie and the he's the only one you trust to lead town, and I didn't realize it was in response to Mastin's town leader thing, is that you didn't vote Mastin with him though you were trusting Pie to lead all the way. If I would have realized that it was just you commenting on Mastin's town leader narrative, and I did remember that exists but he wrote so damn much it was hard to take some of it seriously and really focus, it probably wouldn't have stuck out as so odd to me. But what freaked me out was while at the same time going he's the only one you trust to lead town, you weren't voting for the person he was tunneling on though you were certain he was scum and then you suggested the AP lynch.In post 6530, CarbonFiber wrote:
Regaeding the town leaded thing: you mentioned this several times now. When I said that Pie was the only person I trusted to lead the town, I was taking to Mastin. Mastin made a huge deal about how he has resurfaced from a bad game and has grown into a town leader. He talked extensively about how he would lead the town, how he would reach out to people, and how he was doing "leader-centric" reachouts and pretty much referring to himself as the town leader of the game. I responded to him by saying that I trust the guy tunneling him much more than I trusted him. It wasn't meant to take a dig at anyone else in the game nor was I trying to undermine any other player. I had a strong scum-read on Mastin and Pie was the only one who was really understanding (at that time) where I was coming from, defending my points against Mastin and speaking in a way that I could understand. His read never wavered and I could follow what he was doing at every point. It's why I trusted him. He was viewing the gamestate almost exactly as I was. Just like you trusted Ffery who waffled and waffled on Mastin, I trusted Pie who had a similar strong scumread on Mastin and was thinking about things exactly the way I was. I never meant to say that anyone else is unqualified to lead the town. If it means anything, the only person I trust to lead the town right now is you and I am dead serious about it because you are the only person keeping a cool head throughout this shitshow of a game. I should have trusted you earlier and you ended up being more right than I was but that's just the way the game went. I can't change the past but I can put more effort into seeing your side from now on.In post 6425, Titan wrote:Well then don't say you would have held off if I'd not been passive about it. I wasn't shy about how I felt about that lynch and the entire situation and didn't want the day to end there.
I gave up worrying because you looked like scum posturing around the wagon there at the end and the only reason I could figure out that you would do that was because you guys had some way to end the game through night actions.
And part of my problem is that you're not actually looking at everything. You're discounting some things because you have a *strong read* which is fine but coming up with new ways that AP is scum without for one second considering the possibility that JSU is scum is a whole metric fuckton of confirmation bias. I, for one, don't see how you can be so sure. I have postulated that you are so sure because you guys are partnered because it's really the only reason why you've been going on about AP but not really pushing him and then using the Mastin scum read AP so he's scum scum scum! When Mastin isn't all that great at reading AP; I mean in Anything Goes he was 100% certain AP was scum when he was town telling like crazy. The day two suggestion that it should be AP instead of Mastin after you declared that Pieguy was the only person you trusted to lead the town and Pieguy was tunneling on Mastin. Why did you all of a sudden decide to suggest the day should go away from where the leader was saying to go? In some instances you look like you're trying to tie your partner AP to people in a weird manner.
But you going yeah there are too many investigative roles, have a town read here and here, so this has to be the scum one doesn't really make sense to me. I can see leaning one way, but completely discounting everything else? It's just eh.
You are talking about me confbiasing AP when AP has been confbiasing me since he entered the game. It is pretty obvious I am town here if you rethink everything I've done in this game. Day 1, I cc'd RBD when he fake-claimed miller. You know that my scumgame isn't at a level where I would do such a gambit. I don't care if people who don't know my playstyle think that I gambited but you know it is impossible coming from me. There's also not a chance I'd leave you alive over Pie who was townreading the absolute crap out of me because you are a massive threat to me as scum. I've played with you enough and read enough of your games that I know that if you truly want someone dead, it is highly unlikely that you'd be unable to drive the lynch through. There's no way, I'd let someone like that live on, least of all when they are very closely familiar with my game. Third, look at my activity level. I really shouldn't be posting in this game when I've been so busy - and yet I am. I've been trying really hard to figure this game out even amongst the chaos and the noise. Even, look at the tone of my posts for over 500 posts - walls and all. Look at my interactions with other players, with you etc. It is also really obvious that I genuinely believed in my suspicions of Mastin and Rancid wrong though they may be.
You are paranoid of me for a very similar thing that I was paranoid of you about. I found your hammer on Mastin worthy of questioning. You started today in a similar way to what I started D3 - by asking me about my end of day play and getting paranoid about it. I get it. I had the same feeling when you hammered Mastin. I should have known better that there is not a chance in hell this is your scum play. And you know as well that there is no chance I am scum here if you just look at everything that I've posted in this game.
I'm not sure you can look at me and say I'm keeping a cool head with a straight face. I don't feel like I have a cool head. I felt like I was getting there at the start of day when the thing I was worried about all night long didn't happen, but ohmygods paranoia means your scum!!! That's such fucking bullshit and I don't think for one second either Broseidon or desperado can't see it for anything other than it is. They are full of shit and for EITHER of them to actually think this is anywhere near Too Many Heads is such crack pot pawow that no I'm not seeing it at all.
They are pulling this games strings. They can't even come up with a good reason for why scum me would say I thought the game was going to end or would expect that at all? I mean like seriously. They are not acting like town AT ALL.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 6535, Just Sheep Us wrote:
What desp is gunning at is that it's bizarre that you would have thought that at all, so it seems like you're scum lying about being paranoid about something rather than being actually paranoid about something.In post 6509, Titan wrote:OHMYGODS she's such obvious scum because she got paranoid and thought the game could end.
Why would I lie about being paranoid?
Serious question is extremely serious.Half troll/Half wall.
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I feel like JSU is purposefully making this day distracting over the fact that I got ohmygods paranoid because I was questioning them about their behavior yesterday when previously cupcake was a strong town read of theirs.Half troll/Half wall.
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I'm not sure what to make of AP jumping on that bandwagon either.
He's hardly the last person I'd expect to make a oh is someone scum because they made an illogical assumption?!? (not an insult to you btw just not an angle I'd expect you to take.)Half troll/Half wall.
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Thank you for thinking that, but I don't think in numbers. I don't pay attention to wagons, I've been so oblivious to wagons before that I've claimed thinking I was at L-1 when I was really at like L-5. I routinely am off on when MyLo LyLo is. Literally just last week when Pless and I were talking about the balance of NY 172, and he told me that people were going to complain about balance at the end of the game, I asked what the balance was he said 16:4. You know what my answer was? With 16 players, 4 scum makes sense. I don't think that way and even if I did it wouldn't matter because even after Penguin mentioned the numbers I still was worried scum had a trick up their sleeves.In post 6563, AngryPidgeon wrote:
Ive played games with you and I expect a reasonable to good level of awareness/math from you.In post 6543, Titan wrote:It makes no literal sense for anyone who's ever played a game or two with me to go oh but 7:4 the numbers the numbers, how doesn't this make sense to you. I've literally fucked it up when people did point out numbers and thought 11:4 meant with two mislynches scum would win.
To...look town?? Im not saying I think thats the case, but you cant be seriously suggesting that scum would never try to do things that they do as town.[/quote]In post 6558, Titan wrote:Why would I lie about being paranoid?
What benefit did I have? Almost everyone has me as town anyway. So, what was I trying to do? Really? Look insane? Get people to yell at me for something that if I knew it didn't make sense wouldn't make sense? Because really.Half troll/Half wall.
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