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N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical Namesake (game over)
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The question you need to ask yourself with respect to SleepyKrew is "Would scum go ahead and do that?" - and while this opens up a can of WIFOM, I would put a "negative utility" claim in the {high risk, low payoff} strategy for scum - so, probably not scum for now is where I would put him.
neroandmollie:He did vote for SK on Page 1 but Page 2 posting talks about the vote count being wrong and MUM's opinion on peacebringer? Vibe of "Keep up activity levels" of posting scum play.
Dante:Just a single vote on SK and nothing else? Prob. newbie scum afraid to say anything (unless he's an alt)-
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@Dante:"What more is there to say. Most likely he's claiming Miller. It's Day 1. Eliminate the WIFOM seems like the way to go. Why the defense?"
Not a fan of the lynch to test negative utility claim strategy. Leave it to the possible vig to decide whether SK should be shot - and even that shouldn't be a certainty based on claim alone. I'm not defending SK - I was attacking you for not posting anything else except the vote.
@TLoN&M:No opinion\read on Peace yet. If you're leaning a "lil' scummy" on peace, why are you voting SK instead of peace? (Now you've voted PB, but I wrote this at Page 3 where you were pushing Peace but weren't voting him
Spotted by Dante:"also if you think pb is scum, and far more people have expressed a similar suspicion, why are you unvoting him for me?"
No read on PB yet - but if dopog is scum, PB has good chances of being his partner
@Kats:"Ooba, your thoughts on PB and SK? Also why nero?"
PB - no read
SK - Prob. town for claim\no read from play+posting
Nero - See below
Reads for now
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Shadowy Poison - Town for echoing my thoughts on dopog=scum -> PB=scum
Neutral+:
Race Tracer - General vibe
Neutral-:
TLoN&M - Page 2 was odd; still suspicious for pushing PB without voting; scum read slightly mitigated because of his suspicions on DeasVail, dopog. Slotted as scum read where intensity of earlier scum read has reduced. Do not want to lynch over stronger scum reads.
Scummy:
DeasVail: Gives a scummy vibe - hard to pin down why though. (And I'm not even taking the multiball speculation into account; meh on that)
One of {Dante, Vierra Assassin}: for newbie scum - Both give vibe of possible newbie scum scared of posting content.
dopog: Both posts just scream scum for me.
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mnmonicdevice - Town if Dopog flips scum
Race Tracer - Town if TLoN&M is scum
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TLofN&M wrote:did you see what we wrote about dopog in response to rail tracer? cos wow there is something we have in common but your response was to fos us for....scumreading a couple of players while simultaneously naming a scum partners when 1 of the players we are looking at is the same 1 you are voting for?
The PB thing still nags me; but Nero's posting makes me think it could be attributable to a playstyle difference we have. As I mention, you started off as a scummy read on Page 3 and other posting has reduced that earlier read.ooba wrote:Page 2 was odd; still suspicious for pushing PB without voting;scum read slightly mitigated because of his suspicions on DeasVail, dopog.Slotted as scum read where intensity of earlier scum read has reduced. Do not want to lynch over stronger scum reads.
Why single out Shadow - but not mention Luna or Vifam who didn't even post at this time?In post 222, SleepyKrew wrote:VOTE: Shadowy Poison
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Hahaha... 305 was bad but this post makes me feel even better about my vote..In post 374, Katsuki wrote:Coming to the bottom of this page though someone kill NEro for me thanks.
Oh PB too, and judging from the VC, ooba. (If my slot ever dies and flips town, instalynch ooba thanks)
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398: When I voted Kats, it was solely based on the scumminess of post 305. The replace out post seemed "not genuine" - For the most part Kats suspected PB; nero a bit at the end - but "if flip town, instalynch ooba"? - that part at the end feels tacked on and has the vibe of scum lashing out hoping something sticks.
@Nani:Other reads apart from PB? If PB is scum, who are the scumbuddies?
In other news, Andy's entry posts look town. I haven't played with either of MuM - unable to read for now.
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In post 444, BBmolla wrote:
?In post 428, Rail Tracer wrote:because fuck you, stop ignoring me, bbmolla
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PeregrineV (or) dopog - both have scummy posts - you pick between the two.In post 543, Nani wrote:God, this geme, someone tell me who I should vote and why.-
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@PV:
Katsuki = your player slot. I don't differentiate between the two. Perhaps "Katsuki (or) dopog - both have scummy posts - and if you find Katsuki scummy, vote PV" is clearer wording.
@Mit: I was experimenting with hidden double vote mechanics. (10 to lynch with 17 players and all)
Damn these ambiguous claims. "I'm already on PV, people are just gonna get suckered into the "confirmable town role" thing.". @Diabolik: We're not going to get a PV lynch today for these reasons.
I agree with BBMolla - The movement to dopog gives me a mislynch vibe.
I really hate DV's last few posts:
Too quick to buy in to the claim.The people asking for more are silly.
Proceeds to vote Dopog the next post. This is same person who wanted to try and flash wagon somebody a couple of days back - I would assume, they'd at least try here.Dopog is an ok lynch, but there's nothing exciting there for me.
Unvote. Vote: DeasVail
I'll be fairly active before deadline so I can switch my vote to avoid a no-lynch. Those who fall into the same bucket of "active" and "can switch votes close to deadline, if necessary" and consider DV more suspicious than dopog might want to hop to this counterwagon.-
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Not necessary on the double vote thing. A situation like a double-vote enabler (player that grants double vote to another player each day) for example.Mitillos wrote:Wouldn't your role PM tell you if you were a double-voter? Why would you need to experiment?
Also, shouldn't everyone be buying Pere's claim, at least for now? That is, if his role is confirmable, presumably he will take steps to confirm it by tomorrow. And if he does not, he lied, therefore lynch. At least that's what seems to me to be the best course of action. So, Deas jumping on a secondary suspect with an existing wagon seems fine to me.
I agree with you - lynching Pere isn't the best strategy with his claim and moving to another wagon is fine. It's the statement "asking for more is silly" - it seems to accept the claim too readily - almost as if he knows it's true. Contrast this with the skepticism present in other posters.
I think Race has conviced you on the "not lynching Pere today" part. I'm not getting traction with a DV counter wagon; Dante looks like a better bet to actually get lynched. Let's do this.Diabolik wrote:What abou tgetting Dante?
guys u realize Dog is v/la and we risk to hit a PR?
since he has no chances to claim?
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@Deas- Some parts of 759 are defending something which I didn't accuse you of
- I agree that PV's claim makes it obvious he's not the lynch today
- I'll also grant that we didn't have enough time to lynch as compared to the previous VA counter wagon. But you did mention that dopog was just an "ok lynch" - you're fairly active - could have pursed a counter wagon and then jumped back onto dopog if that didn't work out.
- I also agree that PV claiming further at the point was a bad idea.
- The major problem I had however was the fact that I did not detect any skepticism. Almost as if you knew PV's claim was true. (i.e you=scum, he=town)
Note: Reverse logic does hold true for the same post. I can never see a scum buddy being so accepting of fellow scum's claim - so if PV flips scum, you're def. not his scum buddy.
Re-read the game.. My thoughts on a dopog flip
If dopog flips scum
-> PB: scum++
-> RT: town++
-> Nani: town++
-> ShadowyPoison: town+
-> Scum Possiblity - Dante: For trying to paint my counter wagons as "scum avoiding a dopog wagon" and trying to link me to dopog
->Scum longshot possibility - BBMolla: - because the question directed to him in 466 appears random.Removed because of "Dopog is probably a mislynch, but I'll hop on to get a lynch." - a paranoid person can view this as further proof of linkage - but this is the exact same view I had of the dopog wagon at that time - I cannot see scum faking that.
If dopog flips town
-> mnemonic: scum+
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I'm not willing to setup speculate yet. If we take everything at claimed value, I have a problem with the timing of the claim:In post 885, ooba wrote:@BBMolla: Why did you claim when you did?
-> BB investigates RC in N1
--> He gets a guilty result . (He's stated in thread that he believes RC should be "fairly confirmed town" in the absence of a framer)
-> D2 starts. RC claims a guilty on Peacebringer.
Now put yourself in BB's place right now. Some one you believe is "fairly confirmed town" just claimed a guilty result. Why wouldn't I just lynch the target? Why would I claim at that point?
- It confuses everyone
- It narrows down the possible townies with "useful" power roles list for scum to target at night
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I actually think the reverse i.e. that it's information worth knowing. If there are more than BB and RC in the neighbourhood - say 3 or 4, I'd wager for sure that there's one scum in it.In post 934, Mitillos wrote:Not sure I want BB or anyone to make a claim about the number of people in their QT, though. That's not good information to give to scum, I think.
If it's just the two of them, then it can go either way - if it's 1 scum, 1 town - the scum would be RC since she claimed first in thread and BB's motivations have town reasoning.-
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Sorry - I slept off at Page 3 yesterday. Now at Page 20 - exhausting though..In post 1103, ooba wrote:Im back - I'm drunk but I feel inspired enough to do my re-read now...-
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Did not realise we are this close to deadline. I have finished my re-read and I'm immensely glad I did it because I think I've caught scum. Also - I'm not doing a chornological order of notes - just posting notes relevant to each read. (Note: I might have screwed up links)
Spoiler: Pairing notes
Town
Race:My Strongest town read. A lot of what he's said mirrored my thoughts or were relatable.
- Towntell on 72 for picking up on 56
DaesVail:A reversal from D1. Town - not as strong as race though.
- Towntell on 86 - good case on PB.
Dante:Another reversal from D1. Town - not sure I agree with playstyle but the tone and the "I dont give a damn" is definitely not scum.
- 500 was a big towntell for me
- 321/322/324 was milder
RC:I think BB is scum - that makes RC town. But even otherwise RC's late D1 push and today's play+push are town-town-town.
Thoughts on some others
On Reading Page 6, Kats (PV) didn't look as bad as I thought she was before. Regarding PB - Started off the re-read and thought he was def. scum in the first few pages, then that read got neutered a bit. I haven't gone through the meta links yet.
I'm leaning town on PV. Can't say the same for PB yet. Two others who I was leaning town on D1 (Maj and SD) are now neutral. I like everything about SD except his Molla support in 917 and 1056.
Surprisingly I didnt get much of a read on mnem. The only post of note was 479 where I thought he misrepped DV's case on Luna.
Scum
Nani
- On D1, Nani's minimal posting + sticking to one suspect was scummy (331)
- Not as strong as top three
MUM
- Not commenting on SK\Peace at this point (32)
- Why mention Luna here? (158)
- Votes BBM and calls BBM town in the same post (883)
- Whatever RT says in 438 (437)
Luna
- 292 is a very long post followed up by a weak vote. 556 was a better read post but Luna's posts have been very lackluster - not the scumhunting I expect from Nacho.
- Page 41 sort of freaked me out since I have BBM and Luna as my top scum reads. But the weak jump off in 1017-1018 shows it for the mild bussing attempt it was.
BBM
- D1: The entire vote & unvote on SK was scummy. No real reasons for this phrase "I think he's just scum for his postings." in 56. SK had made very few posts at that time and none of it was scummy. That later became voting SK for his claim. The subsequent unvote off the wagon "Revelations have me believing SK's role for the moment." was weak too (198)
- D2: The timing + some assumptions ("Framer is the most obvious and probable possibility with what we were given (See: Day 1's flip)" - in fact, I would assume Framer as the last possible role with a compulsive targeter) were weird.
But the most telling thing is that his reactions all have the vibe of frustrated scum who's not lying about the mod error and thinks that's why he's being put under the spotlight. When you look at this way, all these posts are telling:
"If it helps at all, this isn't a gambit. It'd be really fucking stupid if it was."
"At least confirm the mod error for me."
"Nach, if you think I'm scum fine, but I'm not going to fake a mod error."
BBM is clearly scum - I haven't been this sure of a scum read in a long time. Please join me and RC on this.
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Also, I did not want this part of the earlier post because I believe my case is strong enough without setup speculation but with Nero's role:
The two cop neighbours would have become normal cops. That is overpowered if both of them are town - even with the framer. (esp. since they will be informed about it & since Nero using the normalizer on paranoid and naive cop would clear him since scum would never do that).You are aNumbered Normaliser(in other words: a.2-Shot Normaliser)
This means that, twice during the game, you can target one player at night. Starting the next day, that player's role will be changed to the nearest Normal equivalent. If there is a change, they will be informed.-
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Well, it would upset me a whole lot more when I was scum rather than town. And I believe that feeling shows in the posts I quoted.In post 1129, BBmolla wrote:Ooba if the mod accidentally told you an incorrect result and people lynched you for it, would that not make you upset?
Nothing on the fact that Nero's role + RC + you could have lead to a situation with two cops running around in the town?-
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Yes - which one of the two people is more likely to do this? i.e. The person who said "she should be fairly confirmed town" or the one who's willing to go 1-1??In post 1217, Mitillos wrote:@RC: It's also possible you're scum and BB isn't. You could be trying to get him lynched and then you'd go"Whoops, sorry everyone, well I guess that clears me too, since we were neighbours and had similar powers".
If I had to choose between you and BB, I'd probably vote you over him largely because of your lack of a case for BB-scum, or mnem-town.
I wonder how BB feels over this betrayal from his neighbour. Tisk, tisk.
This is BB on mnem scum "For the record, I don't hate a mmnemnic device lynch, he's just a vig target anyway." - I don't find it much better than RC going "Also, Mnem was a terrible wagon.".-
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Where's the doubt BB? How are you so sure Radiant is town??In post 1241, BBmolla wrote:Last night I told him he's gonna feel bad when we both flip town, that's about all that's been in there.
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I went back and checked - "I feel fairly good about RC atm." - you say this even after the mod admitted he made an error. What made you feel good about RC?In post 1241, BBmolla wrote:Last night I told him he's gonna feel bad when we both flip town, that's about all that's been in there.-
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Wow. People who need to need Shadow's case should read D2 again.
- At post 920, SP asks a pointed question to Dia: "and speaking of him, Dia, what do you think of Militillos so far? why did you drop him from your initial list of suspicious people?"
- This reply from Dia was non-commital "yeah he is flying too low.. for sure 1/2 scum ae lurking."
- When pressed for details by Shadow again, Dia goes "who is dropped from my list?"
Dia doesn't get a chance to reply since he's replaced. Shadow again asks his replacement Maj about Mit. Maj says he doesn't read the case but votes Nani.
I'm slightly torn here as it is a very powerful link between the two of them but I liked SK on D1 and thought Dia was very townie on D2.
However, I'm willing to vote Mit.
- A lot of questions give me the vibe of someone who wants to look like he's active and scum hunting without doing so. A lot of posts addressed at RC\BBM, some of which asked for answers already available.
- Weak-ish reads. His D2 scummy candidate was mnem and other scum possibilities were {Nani, Pere, Peace} which is kinda weird because it's obvious that Pere and Peace were not scum together.
- When trying to spot his D3 suspicions, I noticed this - "@KMD: Why does Rail deserve your vote? Especially if you're not caught up, yet." - but he never questions Maj for doing the same on D2 when voting Nani. (Add one more link to the Maj-Mit pairing)
Unvote. Vote: Mitilos
If he flip scum, I'll reconsider voting Maj. Also, with 881, if Mit flips scum, I guess I was wrong about BBMolla.-
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In post 1276, PeaceBringer wrote:Nothing new to add
On D2, when the PV wagon wasn't happening - you voted Mitilos. Today you choose to vote KMD - why?also did not realize I had not posted since Sunday... this game has really slowed to a crawl...
since folks appear to want to let PV go buy yet another day....
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I have a feeling that we're moving towardsyet anotherdeadline lynch. Those who promised content should put in more time into this game.In post 1262, DeasVail wrote:I'll make a proper post tomorrow.In post 1231, Rail Tracer wrote:going to do some reading (probably tomorrow) and start putting some proper effort into this game. maybe.@KidA:That's all you have after the re-read?? What are your thoughts on the other players? Why is peacebringer scum?-
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Shadow's ISO if you have the time; my post is a good summary of his case.In post 1309, Kmd4390 wrote:What is the case on Mit?-
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Shadow wrote:RC, stop being a tunnelly shit, read my case on Mollatown, and tell me where I have gone wrong
read my case on Dia and tell me why I'm wrong there
and tell me why we are wrong about Mitillos being scum
If you're referring to this - It's not that convincing .Shadow wrote:you are both cops, AND with confirmed Sanity. do you really, really think that, even if it is a neighborhood and not a masonry, that there is even a slight chance that one of you two are scum?Rail's catch up is good. Right now I can see two possible lines of scum pairing
a) Maj - Mit
b) BBM - Luna
Somewhat mutually exclusive pairings since I dont think BBM-Mit are scum together. I can see KidA being a member of both groups.
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Somehow I can never get the post tags to work - let me stick to URL tags.This post.In post 1315, Majiffy wrote:
Link doesn't work for me for whatever reason, links to the first post in the thread.In post 1312, ooba wrote:
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I'm against the massclaim for a couple of reasonsIn post 1336, Rail Tracer wrote:no that's not a PGO claim
massclaim today? yes / no?
i kind of want to sort this now
- There are some drawbacks to an early mass claim. One you lose the advantage of someone who scum thought was an easy mislynch becoming a confirmed role late in the game.
- The benefit of an early mass claim vs a late one is to catch scum by surprise since they cannot coordinate. PB's role makes it certain that scum have daytalk. We've lost that advantage.
- Most of the roles claimed now fall into the useless category. The unclaimed should have (hopefully) something better and I'd rather not give scum a map on who the best kills should be.
I would however like a full or partial claim about this.DV wrote:Assuming that my role is useful (which it's probably not), Mitillos is not the best lynch.-
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Thought process.How do you tell someone who is being active from someone who is trying to look active?
As for the answers being "readily available", this is only the case if you were to take BB's word as true, in advance. I do not propose to do this, because such assumptions are unwarranted.
Consider this for example.
- BB had already claimed he had a QT
- Peace had already claimed he was a day talk enabler
- You ask BB if his QT has day talk?
I'll let you work out what the problem is here.
Sure the Per\Peace thing might be a playstyle difference.-
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When I was reading DV's claim I thought "Yes - One regular cop + one paranoid cop who has a chance to get normalized + a mafia fakeclaim for naive cop who appears semi confirmed because of the naive\paranoid combo = good balance" - unfortunately, the innocent on BBM blows that theory out of the water.
But DV, why did you claim? It's clear from your posting that even you aren't too convinced with your result on Mitilos. However, if you were a useful regular cop - don't you think you've played your hand too early??
- Peace claimed QT daytalk enablerIn post 1342, Mitillos wrote:@ooba: Suppose BB (actually, I was asking RC, but whatever) said that they didn't have daytalk. What would you have done? If you are saying that my question was unnecessary, then you were accepting Peace's claim, without checking it. This is either foolish or scummy.
- Now if BB\RC did not have day talk in his QT, he would have counterclaimed Peace right away!!
I tend not to favor the "find illogical arguments and push people on it" type of scum hunting much (because what most people consider 'tells' on this site are actually null) and am more a gut player. That's why I gave you another chance to think things through and clearly you can't put yourself in townie shoes. I love the "foolish or scummy" bit too.
I still had a lot of doubt when I voted Mit (esp. since it looked like BBM couldn't be scum with him) but his behaviour+replies are making me feel better about it.-
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I meant the initial soft claim.Um, you were one of the people asking for more of a claim... (and I'm pretty sure my role is useless).
RC's play looks too genuine to be faked. I can see where the BBM suspicion comes from.Why can't RC be the scumbag in that scenario?
- I'm not sure I like the KMD push
- I liked the fact that Mit put me in his town pile
I won't vote KMD but I'd be willing to switch to Luna-
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N, how about a small deadline extension because of the replacement so Varsoon can catchup?
DV - my apologies if you missed that. Why did ya soft claim initially for Mitilos? (i.e. this bit - "Assuming that my role is useful (which it's probably not), Mitillos is not the best lynch.")-
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I thought PB's 1047 snipe at Luna was bad but after checking his ISO, I guess he's been suspicious of Luna for sometime.
I hope this is true!We are tunnelling because we think we caught scum and this town is stagnating in a baaaaaaad way.
Race, help me out with your KMD read
1296 - In your catchup post, you're leaning towards kmd=not scum
1297 - In the post where you list your reads , he sort of is the undecided pile; but I guess that makes sense since everyone above was towni don't really think kmd is scum. nani looked townish, kmd himself is meh though. the attack on me is misguided and makes not a lot of sense, unless he thinks i'm scum who... killed PV instead of roleblocking him and trying to push his mislynch? i dunno what he's thinking there. i'm not really sure why he'd attack me as scum, though, when there are plenty of other candidates that are probably a lot easier to lynch than i am.
1451 - However this part surprises me - "there's nothing that really looks town about his ISO." - when did this shift happen?-
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In post 1461, BBmolla wrote:I'd say flashwagon KMD but it won't happen, so just wait till tomorrow.Unvote. Vote: KMD
Let's do this then..-
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Also quick ISO on Mit - I think he's telling the truth about his role
- "@DV: Do you mean he wouldn't be informed of a change in his role?" - The observation about Nero's flip on normalizing shows he was concerned about how to remove the "negative\useless" part of his role
- "Every role we've seen so far was made up of two N-words and had two components to its description." - Self explanatory and genuine-
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Nice etc?In post 1517, Rail Tracer wrote:Lunch break. Phone post. Nice etc
Lemme reread the game a bit to reorient myself.-
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Yup. Let's do the unclaimed people first and then do partial claims for the rest. For claims, I suggest popcorn method. i.e. one person starts claiming and chooses the next person to claim.In post 1527, Rail Tracer wrote:btw mass claim today? mass claim sounds good
Unclaimed:
Luna
Varsoon (name and role claim left)
Shadowy
Maj
Dante
Rail
Partial claim:
- Mitilos N3 target
- RC N3 target and result
- BB N3 target and result (not sure about N2 here?)
Fully claimed:Peace
I think Luna should claim first via Popcorn.-
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I was about to ask you why you didnt claim this after Mit's claim yesterday - but a quick ISO revealed you weren't there.In post 1532, Shadowy Poison wrote:Vote: Mitillos
We are theNanny, a.k.a. the Babysitter. We choose one player to protect from a kill each night, but if we are targeted for the kill, then both of us die.
N1 we were on molla
N2 we were on Luna but got blocked by someone who sent us a message asking if we are naughty or nice--if we are naughty we couldn't be friends, but if we are nice we could potentially block the NK
N3 we didn't protect anyone
Mit's role doesn't exist, let's lynch him.
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Let's finish what we started before Mit lynching. Since you started off in the unclaimed - who do you want to claim next?-
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@Mit: I was actually waiting to follow proper popcorn procedure.
Claim: Non-existent Narrator, in other words a Tree Stump
If i bold a certain phrase in thread, I die immediately with my alignment being revealed.
I asked N if i can still continue posting in thread if I stump - he said No, unless he lets me know otherwise.-
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Narrator Narrating N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical NamesakeIn post 1565, Mitillos wrote:@ooba: I only asked because in your list of claims that needed to happen you left yourself out. Can you tell us what the phrase is, without bolding it?-
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Agree with Luna's analysis that the setup was designed around the normalizer.
- I again come to the point that 2 Cops + Normalizer seem overpowered
- Even if we accept that, both Shadow and Mit have claimed roles that revert to normal Doc+Nurse combo if normalized
If there normalizer had survived N1, if all of these roles were town, there's a very good chance that we could have had a cop+doc combo on our hands. That's just bad design - I think def. one of {Mit},{BBM} are scum - maybe even both.
Also, most roles seem well defined i.e Mit's "anybody that attracts me" is very vague and doesn't fit with other roles. (Luna's "asleep" too to a certain extent)
Based on these two alone, Mit makes a good vote:
Vote: Mit
Don't insta-lynch anyone yet though - Lemme re-read the game for connections etc.