I understand the point against Chevre for over justifying his vote on Luffy, but since this game is likely to be multiscum (despite the N1 results). I don't think that it's as good of a tell as it is when there is just one scum team because Chevre couldn't have known that Luffy was town. I understand why he came under suspicion, but I don't think that the case against him is all that strong.
In post 1890, manho wrote:but the sad truth is that scums are much less likely to self-vote than town, so i think both kondi and lowman is town.
I think that whatever town-cred they hope to pick up for this antic vanishes the minute they move their vote.
In post 1892, TeChNoWC wrote: In post 1891, Hoopla wrote: In post 1890, manho wrote:why is there so many people self-voting. it is almost always against your win con. you shouldn't be able to gain town-cred by self-voting.
but the sad truth is that scums are much less likely to self-vote than town, so i think both kondi and lowman is town.
What do you think about SpyreX's continual acceptance and desire for his lynch? Same category?
It can definitely be scum WIFOM, but Spyrex does, to some degree, seem genuinely uncaring about his lynch, and not very defensive about it. He just seems hungry for blood. Not sure how to read it.
I know this didn't involve me, but for the future, please don't answer questions directed to other people.
In post 1912, callforjudgement wrote:I didn't remember he made that are even worse. And it looks sort-of like he was trying to excuse them by pretending they didn't exist and hoping nobody would check;
Which posts are these?
I don't really care for Chevre's scum-hunting by looking at the suspicions of the flipped players especially when he missed Imaginality's at first.
Just making a note here about the wagons:
It seems impossible to get Kondi lynched.
Chevre was driven up.
A wagon on NS started.
I feel like Trevor is playing dumb here. At least some of the issues with over-justifying a vote have been pointed out, and frankly, the rationale for why you'd expect it to come from scum is pretty obvious.
I feel like this attack against Chevre was contrived.
I hate how BBMolla shows up to vote Chevre and ignores what is actually going on in the game at that moment.
I'm not sure what MattPs motivation was in creating his own list of lurkers to die rather than just going along with Spyrex's death list.
In post 2060, Trevor wrote:The entire lurking=scum is dumb. Why would you lurk as scum? Posting as scum is a lot easier imo than as town. Also: people are more interested in games they are scum in. No one looks at a game and says, "Nah, I'm not interested in this game I am scum in."
I'm reconsidering my town-read on Trevor after this. He's questioning pretty rational scum-tells far too much and his reasons for doing so are poor.
1) Many people have a much harder time posting as scum than as town, and the reason is simple: as town people can basically post whatever they are thinking, but as scum they have to fake it.
2) Lurking is an effective strategy as scum because people often don't notice lurkers and choose to lynch people for actively scummy play instead, and in normal games getting the town together to lynch a lurker is often tough.
Fear-mongering.
Do you thinking that we should let the lurkers live to end-game?
I think that we need to start lynching from some of the people the counter wagons to the town lynches have been on. If we hit scum, we get insight into the people pushing the other wagons. However, I approve of the plan to off the lurkers, but I think that we should be smart about it. I do not think that post count alone is a reasonable distinguish who should die. For instance, I would not put Zajnet on the death list.
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