In post 19, MaguaofIllusion wrote:VOTE: brizingre1
We do not like his lack of stance on the mass alignment claim.
In post 212, Foxace36 wrote:In post 207, brizingre1 wrote:Jesus, this game is moving quickly, sorry for my inactivity atm, but I should be able to comment more now:
From listening to Norman, he's either some sort of underappreciated genius or a stupid troll, however neither are particularly indicative of alignment but I'm tempted to keep him in just to see what he comes out with,kondi, if you've played with him before is there actually some kind of odd method here or is he just (the more likely option) an idiot?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3921198: Don't like Pines a) attempt at buddying and b) jumping on the Norman bandwagon here.
Also on my potential scum list is Empking, hasn't posted much apart from changing his vote 3 times and didn't give much reasoning for any of those.
MaguaofIllusion seems fairly town atm, along with Tammy.
Foxace seems like slightly newb town, his reaction to the fake daykill seemed fairly genuine, although I still don't like his 'Pine is inactive' argument which he never explained@Foxacewas Pine being particularly inactive?
I'm confused, what exactly are you asking me? lol
Also, why is it in every game I play people get a "Newb" read on me? >.<
In post 241, Norman wrote:Pine disappeared as well... Foxace, don't think I might be crazy but I think the scumbags are denying their presence and they want us to kill each other.
In post 244, Norman wrote:brizingre1 wrote:In post 241, Norman wrote:Pine disappeared as well... Foxace, don't think I might be crazy but I think the scumbags are denying their presence and they want us to kill each other.
I love this guy.
Where were you the other day? Did you see anyone shift about?
In post 369, Norman wrote:In post 368, MaguaofIllusion wrote:ITT Norman tries to elevate "Too Scummy to Be Scum" to a higher art!
What's the matter? Hesitant to lynch? Ok, I'll say it again.
LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME!
In post 295, Norman wrote:Alright... Foxace isn't a scum. I'm sure of it. Empking... might be a scumbag...
However, kondi is voting me because he thinks I'm buddying with Lemons...
Which means, kondi... Is either a misinterpreted townie, or a scumbag trying to blend in... Because I think YOU'RE a scumbag! So to even this thing out, EAT THIS!
Vote: Kondi
Reason: Shifty emotions.
I know you're shifty, don't even get me started.
In post 373, Norman wrote:Is that all? This must be a goddamn room of scum-sucking fruitbaskets! CMON, LYNCH ME! DO IT!
YOU'RE ALL JUST LAME VOTERS, THAT'S WHAT IT IS! I'VE SEEN BETTER! COME AND LYNCH ME!
In post 375, Shadow1psc wrote:I would say he should at least claim first, but something that tells me that would just make this a more confusing endeavor.
In post 479, Norman wrote:I wish I never told anyone this type of strategy because I like to keep things to myself, but whatever. It's not like I'm going to be playing with you all again anyways.
In post 522, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 492, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 464, MaguaofIllusion wrote:
Shadow1psc is still passive, still don't like.
UNVOTE: Norman
VOTE: Pine
I addressed this, but obviously not well enough?
Also, seriously, is anyone reading my posts? CoolDog posted EXACTLY after my last post, and still addresses nothing. I would quote them, but Cooldog's post in itself is a quote answer wall. Posts # 400 and 401.
This still stands. ^
In post 521, brizingre1 wrote:Right, zdenek gets some scum points for his stupid questioning of Tammy's questions. Asking questions is a fairly common and completely valid playstyle, and I don't like the way z was trying to read so much into them, and his argument looked a little like he was reaching. Also he goes in three hours from 'I like Shadoweh's points against Pine, to voting Shaodweh ( http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3926095 and http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3926204).
And foxace's recent posts are makink him look scummier and scummier, would be happy lynching him atm.
My vote still on Norman, we're not going to get anywhere with him playing, and I could be persuaded to switch my vote to Pine if needed, but at least he's vaguely playing, going to ISO foxace and see how scummy he looks.
Could you make your posts... easier to read by any chance?
In post 546, Mastermind of Sin wrote:People I would not be willing to lynch:
MaguaOfIllusion
People who I didn't even realize were in this game:
Empking
AurorusVox
PeregrineV
Y u no scum
LynchMePls
brizingre1
greenknight
Feysal
Skenvoy
kondi2424
Jackal711
Guy_Named_Riggs
Haze
Everyone Else:
Pine
ManiacalLemon
CooLDog
trekker
Tammy
Shadoweh
kondi2424
Norman
Lord Mhork
Shadow1psc
Foxace36
In other news, this game sucks.
In post 662, Foxace36 wrote:In post 658, brizingre1 wrote:I would be fine with lynching one of:
Norm - Fairly obvious why
trekker - Sadly just another troll, doesn't seem to be putting any effort into the game at all apart from voting people without any reasons
ManiacalLemon - Seemed scummy in the old thread and has continued to be - Continued talk of a jester, trying to bring back a roleclaim debate that had been put to bed, and his jump onto the CD wagon.
PereV - Seems to be trying to stay under the radar, watching the town fight itself, and again his jump on the CD wagion reeks scumminess.@Perevreads please
Pine - His claim was totally unnesecary and I dont like the way that he seems to be trying to divide the town into lawful vs chaos, firstly for his claim, and secondly for his recent posts about Norman
greenknight - Basically what MoI said above
After rereading Foxace, torn between whether he's scum or a newbie town, used to playing this game on websites like epic mafia, but I really dislike his scum list here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3926392 and also the fact that he continues to promise to post his reads or make a wall soon but never does so puts him on my suspiscion list for now.
We need to decide whether or not too lynch Norman now, or just accept him as a troll and continue scumhunting. Personally I'd be in favour of a lynch.
What the fuck is this epic mafia people keep mentioning?
Also, I stated that I was going to post my readds today. I was at a movie premiere.
P.S. If you read all of Suzanne Collin's hunger games books, don't go see the movie. It'll piss you off. Jus' sayin'.
In post 671, Norman wrote:
In post 666, Feysal wrote:In post 633, Pine wrote:You people questioning the timing of my claim - are you nuts? There was a wagon on me, picking up steam, led by morons who had no good reasons but were getting support from smart people that could actually make it happen.
What are you talking about? Two days ago there were three votes on you. When you claimed there were two. Now there is only one left. Your wagon was not picking up steam, it was collapsing. The only wagon I have seen picking up steam lately is the one on CooLDoG, and that wagon ranks high among the stupidest things I've seen in this game.
In post 624, Norman wrote:So Feysal has come back, so Charlie Chaplin what do you have on YOUR mind?
Plenty. For one thing, a sincere wish that there would be less noise in this game, so I could have more time for actual analysis and posting, instead of wasting it wading through the muck that is this thread. Which you are largely responsible for. Have a look at the activity overview and ask yourself, what do you have to say that is so bloody important that you cannot say it without having over 25% of the total posts?
Below are some highlights of your recent posts. Take a time out, think them over, and see if you can't figure out why no one takes you seriously or likes you in this game.
In post 498, Norman wrote:I wouldn't call it stupidity, I'd call it being retarded and discreet.
Did you really just say that you would rather be called retarded than stupid? Why yes, yes you did.Then again, perhaps you are not a native English speaker and don't know what the word means? Nope, you demonstrated the correct usage of the word in post #504.
In post 498, Norman wrote:Like I said I'm NOT a VI, I'm a regular townie... God I hate when people use that fucking description.
And yet you are a village idiot, and you should be glad of it, since it is the only thing keeping you from being lynched. Just in case you actually meant it when you called yourself retarded, and you in fact suffer from a debilitating mental disability, I apologize for the insensitivity, but it is true.
In post 498, Norman wrote:Scumbags come in many different forms, shapes, and languages. And with that statement I base off having probably atleast one scumbag on the list. Your logic actually makes no sense at all.
There probably is, given that there were eight names on your suspect list. You would have to beat the odds if there were no scum there at all. Even a blind chicken choosing at random would be expected to get one or two right.
In post 498, Norman wrote:Maybe but it's the first day, how would I know? How would anyone know for sure?
You were accused of lack of commitment to your scum reads, and this is your response? Good grief. And only two posts previous you said you had more suspects to add and that you did not like having your suspect list criticized. If this is the limit of your faith in your own reads, why should anyone else take your reads seriously?
In post 498, Norman wrote:The whole plan was to get scum on the wagon andtry to make them look townbut when everyone had voted for me I would say what my plans were at the end of the votes.
EXCUSE ME?
In post 498, Norman wrote:It's spam but it's spam that I had to use for the effect.
So you admit to spamming the thread, then deny it in post #617. While continuing to spam.
You would be ten times the player you are if you posted one tenth of what you do, but spent ten times the effort thinking about what you post.
Who's my favourite little turdshit, you are Feysal, you are.
In post 712, PeregrineV wrote:In post 658, brizingre1 wrote:I would be fine with lynching one of:
Norm - Fairly obvious why
trekker - Sadly just another troll, doesn't seem to be putting any effort into the game at all apart from voting people without any reasons
ManiacalLemon - Seemed scummy in the old thread and has continued to be - Continued talk of a jester, trying to bring back a roleclaim debate that had been put to bed, and his jump onto the CD wagon.
PereV - Seems to be trying to stay under the radar, watching the town fight itself, and again his jump on the CD wagion reeks scumminess.@Perevreads please
Pine - His claim was totally unnesecary and I dont like the way that he seems to be trying to divide the town into lawful vs chaos, firstly for his claim, and secondly for his recent posts about Norman
greenknight - Basically what MoI said above
After rereading Foxace, torn between whether he's scum or a newbie town, used to playing this game on websites like epic mafia, but I really dislike his scum list here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3926392 and also the fact that he continues to promise to post his reads or make a wall soon but never does so puts him on my suspiscion list for now.
We need to decide whether or not too lynch Norman now, or just accept him as a troll and continue scumhunting. Personally I'd be in favour of a lynch.
@Briz- I'm going to go ahead and mark this up to a relational tell to Mr. Of Illusion, since it was a very woolly post. You even used the same radar thing...lol
But otherwise, sure.
scummy-
Guy Names Riggs from Skeletor
Kondi- from whoever he replaced
Lord Mhork- stupid godfather joke
CoolDog- ???
Haze for 347
Foxace for 364- plus he replaced a scummy spot
Briz for 377
trekker in general
Townish
Tammy
AVox
Norm
EmpKing
In post 773, Foxace36 wrote:Not going to be able to post for a couple of days and since I may be lynched during that time... Here are my last scum reads.....
MoI
CoolDog
Shadoweh
Pine
LynchMePls
Tammy
In post 776, Norman wrote:In post 775, brizingre1 wrote:In post 773, Foxace36 wrote:Not going to be able to post for a couple of days and since I may be lynched during that time... Here are my last scum reads.....
MoI
CoolDog
Shadoweh
Pine
LynchMePls
Tammy
Why Tammy, LMP, CoolDog, please could you not go down the route of trekker and Norman and at least try to post your reasoning. And if I had to spend another day with Norman my head's going to explode.
I'm not that unlovable, am I?
In post 833, Haze wrote:I've read up to 660 and I'm calling it a night.
I'll skim the rest and read it properly laters.
So yeah general comments from skim:
Briz should die. Why so intent on norman?It's funny cause even Feysal isnt' really reacting but somehow Briz is getting pissed off?Scratch that somehow Feysal has sigged it. Well whatevs why so intent?
Peregrin is nailing me for 347...is Tammy that obvtown?
Ok even skimming is killing me. Need to do uni readings. Night all.
That CD wagon is messed up. Norman's vote looks sheepy, probably Briz/PeregrineV is the worst.
Well, #521 is sheepy as fuck/declaration that he will lynch with the biggest wagons. I should Iso Briz later. If I can even catch up V_V;; page 22 fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
In post 843, PeregrineV wrote:@Briz- It wasn't 377 even though that's what my notes said. It must have been 371.
@Foxace-You said "What Norman did right there was pretty dam scummy. I'm torn between him and Pine atm." after Norman voted Pine.
@AV- Good assumption! lol
@CoolDog (728)- You brought it up, nobody talked about it, then you screamed "why it was being discussed", when it wasn't, and it was brought up by you initially.
@Mhork (735)- Because a GF would be cheeky enough to say it and turn up town in an investigation.
@MrIllusion- I thought this was your first game. I'll go look at the others.
In post 947, mastin2 wrote:Alright. Let's try something different.
Everyone:That's every single other player in the game.
I want, in your own words, your summary of how the game has gone so far.
At the same time, I'd also like you to tell me how many scum you think are in the game--I know this game is a lil' unusual, but I imagine that there is a scum faction out there.
And of course, who they are--not a single person; I want you to give me a whole team. Plus of course the reasoning you think they're scum together.
Anyone:Are there any claims I should be made aware of?
In post 1160, mastin2 wrote:I feel like I shouldn't have spoilered my rant primarily aimed at MoI, since I get the feeling nobody has read it.Are they the only ones you'd consider, though? Who'd you prefer more?brizingre wrote:I would consider both foxace and zd as reasonable lynch candidates.
Are they the only candidates you'd consider?
What's your opinion on Tammy?
MoS?
LMP and replacement?
sorgster's slot?
In post 1236, mastin2 wrote:So I'm about to rush out the door, with no time to follow through on this, but I have to write it down before I forget.
Last night, I had a dream, which I'm pretty sure was my subconscious representing this game.
I was the hero, fighting a losing battle. We did something desperate to try and end things. We also saved a fox. Whether that's Zdenek, Foxace, or both, I dunno, but I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be at least one of 'em.
In the climatic battle, I was fighting six others. The main antagonist was a queen bee, who I'm pretty sure was supposed to be Tammy. LMP was there, as himself. mith was there, and I'm fairly certain that's supposed to represent MoI, due to their signature. Two I don't remember (the dream's already slipping away), and the last one was Glork, though I can't make any sense of who that's supposed to represent.
I'll ponder the implications of it when I return. Be back soon.
In post 1545, Pine wrote:Hrm. I'd forgotten that Brizingre is scum. Amusing that his lynch list is me and three of my strongest Townreads.
In post 1549, AurorusVox wrote:Briz, I love how your reasoning hasn't changed considering I've outlined why CD is scum, and the lack of such explanation was what you had fund scummy about me. In fact I gave those reasons in the very next fucking post after you asked for them.
@CD, orite, I thought someone said you claimed cop and I'd missed it. Mahbad.
Pine is probtown.
In post 1555, AurorusVox wrote:In post 1554, brizingre1 wrote:Sorry, I still don't like your reasoning - Point 1 was a misrep and sorry for being retarded/pedantic but could you rephrase 2, I had no idea what you were talking about.
...
In post 1554, brizingre1 wrote:Sorry, I still don't like your reasoning
That's a different fucking argument from
In post 1341, brizingre1 wrote:I would really love it if AVoX could elaborate on his 'CD is obvious scum' case,I still haven't seen a single reasonwhy from him.
Which was the same reason you still had AFTER I'd posted the reasons.
In post 1543, brizingre1 wrote:And I still want an AVoX lynch,my reasoning hasn't changed from my last post.
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In post 1554, brizingre1 wrote:Point 1 was a misrep
How? CD suggested I was trying to get the doc to claim:
In post 1286, CooLDoG wrote:In post 1278, AurorusVox wrote:Hmmm...
Okay let's do it this way
I want everyone to state whether they think the Doc should keep quiet or out his protect.
And that means EVERYONE
Why should the doc come out? What positives can the town gain from a doc claim?
The second point was that he's pushing me as a counterwagon. Except now he's trying to lynch PineCop for some reason? I'm not sure how valid it is NOW but back then it was.
In post 1605, TiphaineDeath wrote:Hi ya'll lets get this fustercluck back on track shall we? As a rule when I replace in I only read the last ten pages. This is what I have just done. If there is pertinent information beyond that, tell me and quote the area, I'll go back and re read it. Here's what I got from the last ten pages.
Mos Scum=Pine Scum
Mos Scum= Junpei town
Junpei Town= Mos Scum
Cool dog Scum= Tammy scum
HLScum=Tammy town
Tammy Town=HL Scum
Mos Scum= Zdenek Town
Zdenek scum= Mos scum
Empking= Town
Lost Butterfly= town
BB= possible scum (major lurking=BB scum)
Pine Scum= PV town
PIneSCUm =GV town
MOS SCum= BB Town
VOTE: MOS This lynch gives us a lot of information as well as likely being scum, lets get this rolling folks.
In post 1748, Tammy wrote:^ Brizingre - Pick one side of the road *go*
In post 1930, Zdenek wrote:Briz - explain your probtown list.
In post 1937, Mastermind of Sin wrote:The presumption that being logical makes you town (and the inverse) is pretty sad reasoning by brizingre.
In post 2127, Haze wrote:@Shadoweh: I mean at least he's here.
Also was there a case on Shadoweh somewhere? I've skimmed the last 5 pages and haven't seen it. Sorry V_V;;
Brizingre1 - Strong Scum Read
Briz's vote on Kondi while asking Kondi a question to meta-read another player doesn't make sense at all. His jump vote on Norman is really scummy as well. His Post 658 looks like like an attempt to state support for all the lurkier players in the game that had suspicion shown towards them already. What's interesting is that Post 886 is a compltely different list. His continual shifting of reads seems to be without any reason whatsoever and reads more as if his reads lists are manufactured.
In post 2193, Regfan wrote:@ Briz -1. I understand reads change over time however the massive amount of scum reads you've claimed to have don't read as genuine, it seems more like an attempt to keep yourself open to vote almost anyone by rotating them on and of your list. Stating you're willing to vote any "Lurker" involves stating intention to vote almost half the playerlist alone. Also while we're at it some things you might want to explain why Mhork and Moneybags appears on the second list but not the first.
2. If you were confident in Kondi being mafia then his response towards your meta question of another player directed towards him isn't going to give you anything as you won't trust the answer anyway meaning it's a useless question.
3. Your timing of the vote was just after he had his "Lynch me lynch me" spew which while is anti-town isn't a scum-tell so your vote on him with 'sure' as the reasoning looks like an attempt to get on the wagon easily without having to come up with strong reasoning behind
The more and more I read through LB's ISO the more I think Faraday is scum, his play makes a lot more sense as scum worried that if he says too much he'll make himself a night kill target. I don't think he'd be this cautious as town. I realize that few people are going to want to lynch him anytime soon but if I die I'd rather people seriously consider him as scum. With that said join us on Shadoweh, the lynch is infinitely better than BBMolla plus voters on her get free cookies.
In post 2201, Haze wrote:@Reg. Yeah not much on reads really I'm quite terrible atm. This game has like nobody posting and I think at the moment practically anyone who's even saying anything useful is town
(think GreenKnight is pretty obvtown btw) and Briz is looking pretty scummy (I've thought so before) and his increase in activity after your Strong Scum read on him coupled/w defence & little scumhunting do little for him.
Also tomorrow is Saturday so I'll probably be around for BB's inevitable hammer.
In post 2199, Regfan wrote:@ Briz- A response to 1) would be nice. As for 2) what you asked Kondi was quite subjective therefore it'd be hard to tell if he was lying or not. Regards to 3) I find policy lynching scummy as it allows scum to easily jump on wagons and claim "I'm PLing" which makes them able to blend in decently without PL votes and compared to the other votes yours was more awkwardly placed + I know that MoI PLs as both town and scum whereas I have no idea on your meta on that front at all.
@ Briz - 1. I understand reads change over time however the massive amount of scum reads you've claimed to have don't read as genuine, it seems more like an attempt to keep yourself open to vote almost anyone by rotating them on and of your list. Stating you're willing to vote any "Lurker" involves stating intention to vote almost half the playerlist alone. Also while we're at it some things you might want to explain why Mhork and Moneybags appears on the second list but not the first.
In post 2464, Regfan wrote:@ Briz -ScumKondi would have the benefit of re-directing your suspicion. For instance if he said that this isn't how Norman played as town you'd be more inclined to FoS Norman which is good for Kondi-Scum if Norman is town which is why asking him a question as subjective as that makes no sense if you suspect Kondi. Also I've stated how your vote was awkardly placed, it was done after he was yelling "LYNCH ME" which was a pretty big town-tell for one and for two it means that you can just say 'he told me to!' if questioned about it. Full case on Briz coming up in a few hours. For now though;
Vote: Briz
Overall Reads
[Town]Tammy - Tiph - Zdenek - Chesskid - Cooldog - BBmolla --- Pine -- Haze - Money -- Empking - MoS - Shadow1 -- Nacho[Junpei]- Feysal - LB - AVox ---- Pere --- Mastin ----- Briz -[Scum]
In post 2474, mastin2 wrote:In post 2472, mastin2 wrote:And BBMolla's vote on me isn't opportunistic...how?Brizingre1 wrote:I'll hop on the Mastin wagon, is playing a lot like oppurtunistic scum.
Spoiler: further rambling
