Evolution Mafia - Game Over!

[FATty ACid]

HIIIIIIIIIII!

Vote: Coron

It's a chain!

[FATty ACid]

HIIIIIIIIIII!

Vote: Coron

It's a chain!

Circle

That's what I meant. XP

[FATty ACid]

vote: Coron

[FATty ACid]

KILL: CORON

[FATty ACid]

that's not nice, one assumes you are joking.

you really think it's a joke?

[FATty ACid]

If not you are dumb.

Or just vengeful.

[FATty ACid]

You already lynched me in the game you need vengance for. But I suppose I shouldn't doubt your capacity for idiocy as you have already proved it in that chat game this night.

You do not know how bad of an idea it is to piss a woman off.

[FATty ACid]

SPAMMAH!

[FATty ACid]

I just wanted to steal Glork's saying. ^_^

[FATty ACid]

[threadjack]I love being referenced (and quoted) in games that I'm not even in.[/threadjack]

SPAMMAH!

[FATty ACid]

[threadjack]I love being referenced (and quoted) in games that I'm not even in.[/threadjack]

SPAMMAH!

BOLDAH!

I'M GIVIN'ER ALL SHE'S GOT, CAPTAIN!

[FATty ACid]

Vote: FATty ACid

*huggles*

unvote, vote: aelyn

*huggles*

[FATty ACid]

[FATty ACid]

FoShizzle.

[FATty ACid]

bah, you're just lucky.

[FATty ACid]

EBWOP: by which I meant

HEZWAVRE!!!

[FATty ACid]

Thanks! ^_^

HEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZWAVRE

[FATty ACid]

רוא יהי םיהלא רמאיו

[FATty ACid]

רוא יהי םיהלא רמאיו

This has brought to my attention how

awesome

it would be if someone in here was an evolving language.

That is all.

I'm just pleasantly surprised that it worked.

[FATty ACid]

Fo sheezy m'eezy squeezy cheezy.

[FATty ACid]

See that? MoS has the right idea!

[FATty ACid]

vote chamber

so he doesn't feel left out

*shrug* why not?

HEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZWAVRE!

HARRY POTTER BANDWAGONS! O:

vote: chamber

UNVOTE, VOTE: HARRY POTTER!!!!!!!!!!

I got you THIS TIME, SCUM!

[FATty ACid]

I'm

bored.

[FATty ACid]

since you already have an arch nemesis and a regular nemesis, can i be your a nemesis understudy or something?

[FATty ACid]

lol. It's not really manufactured. He and I were just a little more than just a bit argumentative last night. ^_^

[FATty ACid]

The most you could possibly consider argument was 7 posts, and it really had nothing to do with anything.

I'm spamming, being a bit more agressive, prodding in all the fun ways...well, not all the fun ways.

But I assure you, every post has a purpose. ^_^

[FATty ACid]

I hope no one minds if I ask we move away from a discussions about logistics and definitions.

Can you define the word "is"?

[FATty ACid]

lol. Yaw, you shouldn't keep your definition of "tell" so general. Different people act differently for different roles, as you will find. There are few tells which are really general, even less so in just scum tells.

I believe Yaw and

Mor.

..Coron are both likely town moreso than scum. The PBuG thing was pretty stupid, but it's stupid as town or scum.

Also,

unvote

.

[FATty ACid]

No, yaw, he's not a hypocrite. He said agreeing with

TSS

is scummy.

Besides, all that between MOS etc sounded more like a misunderstanding (and it is; either they misunderstood, or i'm not getting what happened). So I don't really see a reason for voting TSS on that, but calling hez a hypocrite for doing something he... didn't say anything about! Not a hypocrite there.

Vote: Yaw

[FATty ACid]

Why would agreeing specifically with TSS be scummy?

you're retarded. that's not what I said. Yes it's what he said, but that's not the topic at hand. Don't make subtle subject shifts. For that I keep my vote on you.

Doesn't actually contain an argument against Yaw.

He's calling someone a hypocrite when that person isn't a hypocrite. Then he continues.... (see above)

The two main bandwagons going right now (Yaw and Coron) consist completely of crap and have absolutely no meat. If you're going to join either, at least give some

good

reasoning as to why.

I like prodding on and finding reasons when I prod.

Yaw and GL (and prolly others) = scum. just saying.

In fact, your above post does an excellent job of avoiding my argument against people on Yaw wagon by leaving it, and <snip=doing other stuff>

teehee.

MOS. But Fatty Acid would be an acceptable second choice.

-_-

Fail, TSS.

I'd prefer Fatty Acid, because Fatty Acid contributed majorly to the spamfest, distracting us from the issue at hand.

Issue? What does an opening spamfest to make sure I'm out, noticed, and ready and waiting to be confronted show?

And why is there a MOS wagon?

Ok, so you want me to abandon the tells I use and find successful. Duly noted.

The following people have posted three or less times in the game: Aelyn, FoShizzle, GreenLiquid, HezLucky, Machiavellian-Mafia, Primate,

chamber has posted nothing of consequence, except to indicate he's off in his own dream world. Same with STD, ubertimmy...actually, we're carrying a

lot

of dead weight in this game. I know MeMeMeet is going on, but most of these players aren't there. Prods are needed on the worst offenders.

Plus, everyone who's contributed something of consequence (other than TSS, who I find hard to read) has done something scummy. FATty ACid and Coron had the initial argument, which could very well be a distancing tactic. MoS has been attacking me for starting bandwagons...while getting on one of the larger ones himself. PBuG had a few overly chatty moments early that have me worried.

Although I'm coming to agree with TSS that MoS is scummier than Coron. They're both bad, but Coron doesn't quite have the same level of rank hypocrisy.

Unvote: Coron

,

Vote: Mastermind of Sin

Ohhh, big words there, Mr. Yaw. I'm just a simpleton, so you'll have to explain this "rank hypocrisy" instead of just hoping people will skip over it and think ur smart without bothering to actually

verify

any of what you're saying.

As for your other sentence about me, there is a big difference between us. I'm attacking you for trying to create bandwagons on horrible reasoning, which in it self is a good reason, hence the difference between us. As for claiming that I was "getting on one of the larger bandwagons", you know yourself that that's a bunch of crap. I

started

the bandwagon against you, so in no way shape or form can you twist your logic to make it seem like I'm just getting on big bandwagons. Your attempts at misrepresentation and trying to create scumminess out of nothing are noted.

*high five*

Thank you for reading things instead of taking things as they're given for true... What political affiliation are you, anyways? You sound like you'd be fun to discuss politics with.

I absolutely love how people keep swearing by post 117 like it's the New Bible or something, but they can't explain a single thing about it. Perfect cover for a scum vote, eh?

:goodposting:

I'm wondering... What exactly is it about 117 people keep going z0mgz BAD VOTE HIM CUZ HE DID SOMETHING SCUMMY I CANT SAY CUZ SOMEONE ELSE SAID OR SOMETHING SHUP IM NOT SCUM NO RLY

I'm aware of that. But since I have no idea what animals are in this game, I have no idea which are likely to be scum. Nor do I know that he's telling the complete truth.

you know that there's a chance that animals aren't the only thing in this game...

Besides which, he's among a certain cabal of followers in this game. Lynching one of them will give us a better impression of who is scum among them.

So yes, I'm not unwilling to lynch a pro-town role with an ability that's unlikely to help the town

(but likely to help the scum if he's scum) in order to get the alignments of around 5 other people.

Especially since that's the worst-case scenario here.

Still voting you, yaw.

These roles EVOLVE. You said yourself that all the first ones are weak. So why would you be willing to lynch a pro-town role? To get the alignments of 5 other people? Like the ones voting him = scum? What would that make you? Also, no everyone who votes town = scum. The people defending him? Scum can defend town just as easily as town can, and often do to form some sort of link.

So you're saying that the worst case scenario is confirming 5 people lynching town (which isn't really the case; see above), as opposed to lynching scum and not getting anyone else's alignment? I'd say the confirming 5 people one way or the other is a greater scenario than finding one scum. However, that's really not the case anyways. This is where you wanna lynch scum and not town. Seriously.

Yaw, you are not retarded. You are purposefully taking bits and pieces to help, wording things certain ways to try to catch people in what is a variation of something called neuro-linguistic programming. Subtle topic shifts to avoid answering an accusation, misrepresentation of the situation in a very subtle manner using easy to come to conclusions that are, in fact, false, and other things like that which I've said.

Sure, there's the possibility that you're town and don't even realize you're doing this. If that's the case, you really are pretty dull. But the way it all comes together makes me think you're purposefully doing these things.

@MOS: again, :goodposting:

[FATty ACid]

18 alive, 10 to lynch

you

, 11 to lynch everybody else.

anyone have guesses as to what this means? 18 alive should be 9 to lynch, but we've got this 10 and 11 stuff o.O

18/2=9. 18 alive = 10 to lynch.

Why would agreeing specifically with TSS be scummy?

you're retarded. that's not what I said. Yes it's what he said, but that's not the topic at hand. Don't make subtle subject shifts. For that I keep my vote on you.

Quite bizarre for an attack. You pointed out how I had misinterpreted a post, so I addressed the misinterpretation. Then you accuse

me

of shifting the subject? This looks like transferrence --

you

are the one shifting the subject. (And I haven't the slightest clue what you think you have shifted it to.)

wtf? no. I said he wasn't a hypocrite. You went back to what they were talking about. That had nothing to do with the fact that no, Hez (iirc) was not being a hypocrite, and yet you called him one. Don't try to say I'm the one shifting topics.

These roles EVOLVE. You said yourself that all the first ones are weak. So why would you be willing to lynch a pro-town role? To get the alignments of 5 other people? Like the ones voting him = scum?

Well, best case scenario would be that MoS is scum, obviously. But I think lynching MoS will give us insight on the people

following

him, not the people voting for him. (And I think it will give us insight on those people in both cases of his alignment.)

lol. I also covered the part about those following him being no more likely scum or town. Good job.

I also believe I have figured out what MoS's role will evolve into. (Confirmed to a good extent by his elaboration.) So I stand by my evaluation of it being more likely to be a great scum role in the future compared to a middling town role.

The rest of FATty ACid's post is

way

too flattering of MoS not to be suspicious.

no, I evolve by getting faster (you know, deer run fast and all), so I get closer to the normal amount needed to lynch.

This doesn't sit right with me. Deer aren't all that well known for speed. (Now, if he were a cheetah...) I'd believe it if the mechanic were like Bambi, and he became increasingly too cute to lynch.

But they learn to avoid predators eventually.

WHAT? DEER, A PRACTICALLY HARMLESS SPECIES COMMONLY THE PREY, EVOLVING TO BETTER AVOID PREDATORS? NO WAI!

From the sign up thread:

Mechanic: Evolution Mafia will be a mostly normal game – largely played with standard roles, but with its share of originals. The main twist, though, will be that (almost) every role will have 5 stages to it supported by a base role. Stage 1 will be an underpowered version of that role,

Stage 3 will be exactly that role

, and Stage 5 will be a stronger version of the role. 2 and 4 will be somewhere in the middle. At the beginning of each day, each player will progress one stage along the way.

I would have thought that 1 would be the third...

FOS: MOS

The role is easier than normal to lynch. Why would that be 1 at stage three, where they're a normal version of the easier to lynch role? Oh me oh my this post reeks of stupid/not thinking/being mafia lolz.

FOS: Coron

[FATty ACid]

The rest of FATty ACid's post is

way

too flattering of MoS not to be suspicious.

Also, wtf?

He makes good posts, so i'm suspicious for pointing these out in times where he's being attacked for reasons I have yet to see outlined?

[FATty ACid]

But they learn to avoid predators eventually.

WHAT? DEER, A PRACTICALLY HARMLESS SPECIES COMMONLY THE PREY, EVOLVING TO BETTER AVOID PREDATORS? NO WAI!

That's not what MoS said. He said that deer run fast. (Helps when you read the things you're quoting.) Deer may be evasive, but they aren't particularly known for pure speed.

How the hell are deer supposed to avoid predators, climb trees? No, silly, RUN!

Besides, modern deers aren't known for their speed, but i wonder how they could evolve to avoid predators in the future...

The role is easier than normal to lynch. Why would that be 1 at stage three, where they're a normal version of the easier to lynch role? Oh me oh my this post reeks of stupid/not thinking/being mafia lolz.

Actually, I noticed Coron's point too, but MoS and he both got their posts in while I was typing mine. It's not an "easier to lynch" role. It's a

variable

lynch role. So it would make sense that level 3 would be normal, while levels 4 and 5 would be harder than normal to lynch. But you're too invested in defending MoS to concede that there's a valid point here.

How do you not know the intention was a role that is easier to lynch?

THINK IN CONTEXT OF A FUCKING DEER! WHEN ARE THEY EVER HARDER TO KILL NOW? THEY'RE NOT! THAT MEANS THAT THEY ARE STILL EASIER TO LYNCH AT THEIR NORMAL LEVEL!

wtf? no. I said he wasn't a hypocrite. You went back to what they were talking about. That had nothing to do with the fact that no, Hez (iirc) was not being a hypocrite, and yet you called him one. Don't try to say I'm the one shifting topics.

Going back...In post 170, HezLucky accuses me of being scummy for agreeing with TSS (which, again, WTF?). He then promptly votes me, becoming the 5th on the bandwagon. In that he's voting for me, he's inherently agreeing with the people on the wagon. So agreeing with chamber, who has contributed nothing of substance to the game, is good while agreeing with TSS, who has at least presented arguments, is scummy? It's at minimum a double-standard. Then HezLucky says that

I'm

making up things to support my viewpoint, as if his certainty that agreeing with TSS's opinion on one issue must be scummy isn't making something up. Hence, hypocrisy.

lol. I also covered the part about those following him being no more likely scum or town. Good job.

Unlike what you might think, I'm not a simpleton. I look at

how

and

why

people vote, not that they did. That combined with the knowledge of MoS's alignment is what will give us the information.

scum have to vote for crap reasons? town can't vote for crap reasons? I learn new things EVERY DAY!

18/2=9. 18 alive = 10 to lynch.

We all know that part. What about the

11?

I was just correcting the part about how he was saying 9. I do not have any knowledge about the 11.

fine.

1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 1, 4/3

plus

18/2=9. 18 alive = 10 to lynch.

Taken together, imply that on day five it'll take 130% of all available votes to lynch, as opposed to 100% on day four. Not sure that makes sense.

uhh, good reading, there.

I am a Deer, and it takes half the number of votes to lynch me as anyone else

[FATty ACid]

Seriously, it's day 1. How are you so sure MoS isn't scum? How could you be so sure that

anyone's

innocent?

Do you really want me to answer that?

[FATty ACid]

scum have to vote for crap reasons? town can't vote for crap reasons? I learn new things EVERY DAY!

You're really clumsy when you try to put words in my mouth. I didn't say anything remotely like that.

Okay. Let's look at it that way.

Scum and town can all vote for any reason at all, good or bad, and do it any way they like.

Therefore, looking at how and why people vote tells us exactly who is scum.

wait a second...

[FATty ACid]

At least the first question, yes.

I do not know if MOS is guilty or innocent. I just assume he is because of his posting.

Nice to see you're willing to fish, though.

[FATty ACid]

Scum and town can all vote for any reason at all, good or bad, and do it any way they like.

Not true. People have tells for any role. It doesn't only come out when voting. More frequently it deals with what's actually being said during discussions to justify voting. Scum and town have different motivations, which comes out. I think you're being deliberately obtuse about this, because if we followed your arguments to their logical conclusion there'd be no way on earth to catch scum.

You'd be surprised.

Here's what I do to make sure that any of my "scum tells" are innocent accidents: i don't remember if I'm scum or not for various games. I play in so many games that I simply forget what role I am. When it comes time to claim, I'll try to remember. For nights, I get choices in immediately so that I have the most time I can possibly have to forget what I was.

Using this, I actually have to think to remember what role I am in this game. That means that it doesn't affect my posting until it needs to. I tend to hide important things steganographically early on, put them in my nightnotes, and forgot their existence until I either A) need to claim, or B) need to submit a night choice.

I'll come right out and say that.... well hell. I couldn't remember which game this was without the thing at the top. I just remember what players on in the game and how they've been acting. If you'd like to say I'm scum, go right ahead. The problem is that I can assure you I have A) no contact with other players, B) no night kill, C) nothing indicative of scum of any kind.

(Have I been flattering to MoS? Sure. Thing is, I'm still wondering if he knows who I am in scumchat, and that was just a simple nod at him; I've been doing that ever since I had this new name. I like teasing him. )

Quick, get someone to name some fast animals. Deer probably aren't going to come to their minds. (Cheetahs and horses would.) I didn't say that deer were slow, I said that the common perception isn't that they're known for speed.

Uhh... I'm sure if you asked a hunter...

Maybe it's cuz I live in Texas?

I'll tell you right now that my role is far far far slower than a deer, and I still take normal votes to lynch.

My role is so much faster than a deer it's not funny. I'm not harder to lynch than normal people. Your point does not hold.

[FATty ACid]

(Have I been flattering to MoS? Sure. Thing is, I'm still wondering if he knows who I am in scumchat, and that was just a simple nod at him; I've been doing that ever since I had this new name. I like teasing him. )

I know who you are =P

Yeah. It's not hard anymore, given that I now list my AIM...

The fact that she "forgets" her role.

I don't forget it when there's something important, you tard. I tend to remember when I

know

players are innocent or guilty.

[FATty ACid]

I look forward to seeing you explain why two scum would go so far out of their way to reveal themselves on Day 1 when they could've thrown one another under the bus and not have been suspected for it at all...

Is that a bottle of wine I see?

:goodposting:

Blatant flattery. >.>

[FATty ACid]

Who said I have important things to remember?

Hint: For this game, I don't. Now shut yer yap and quit yer fishin.

[FATty ACid]

So, FATty ACid, you say that those who are against you or MoS are scum? I doubt that we have a six person scum group.

What the crap? I never said that. Quit the misrep plz.

Although I'm coming to agree with TSS that MoS is scummier than Coron. They're both bad, but Coron doesn't quite have the same level of rank hypocrisy.

Unvote: Coron

,

Vote: Mastermind of Sin

Ohhh, big words there, Mr. Yaw. I'm just a simpleton, so you'll have to explain this "rank hypocrisy" instead of just hoping people will skip over it and think ur smart without bothering to actually

verify

any of what you're saying.

UNVOTE, VOTE: PBuG

That isn't even me.

<insert a lot of things not to be said until you respond to MoS>

-_- You're even worse than Yaw with this crap.

[FATty ACid]

Yay. So I've read the last several pages, seen my current votee being pwnd, and I still have to wonder...

Why do PBuG and Yaw keep saying that I insisted, knew, or something to that effect, that MoS is innocent?

I don't believe I've ever said anything other than how I strongly believe or think that MoS is town, due to absolutely pathetic, nonexistant arguments being brought up against him, and then calling him scum and voting for him for it.

Now I'm gathering votes. Feel free to tell me why. ^_^

PBuG is prolly scum, btw. Or just a really meh player at best...

[FATty ACid]

We're all watching MoS to see if he tries to lynch scum or town.

Because ya know, if PBuG is somehow town, only mafia would've lynched him for doing that stuff.

Why do I have five votes while Jentsu (FA) only has three?

I'm not scum, you are?

I think VisMajor and Machiavellian-Mafia need to give us those posts they promised us.

Btw, I think that all the scum might be wolves. Since another name for "Mafia" is "Wolf". Just my theory.

I wouldn't be so sure. Ya know, in a lot of mafias I've heard of, most of the members tend to be human...

MOS- The only contradiction from PBug I see is him pretending to have a decent reason to vote for you near the beginning of the game. It was an OMGUS that he didn't want anyone to see, so he covered it up by pretending to agree with TSS. So yeah, he lied earlier

Stop right there...

That would make him scum. He's "covering up" an "OMGUS" vote. So he's lying either then or now, or both times. I'm thinking he lied both times, and he was just jumping on and off with shitty reason.

Ya know, cuz he's scum, etc.

[FATty ACid]

The thing I'm hating most about this game now is that, if by some weird chance PBuG is cop rather than scum, we have to wait forever before he's really a cop. =\

[FATty ACid]

You're retarded, Vis. You miss the point too often, and almost come off like you're trying to set it up to be that way.

FA Jumps on Yaw because TSS said "agreeing with TSS is scummy", not "agreeing with anyone" (This does seem like you buy Hezs reasoning)

What the fuck is this? No, I'll go back and quote what I fucking said.

No, yaw, he's not a hypocrite. He said agreeing with

TSS

is scummy.

Besides, all that between MOS etc sounded more like a misunderstanding (and it is; either they misunderstood, or i'm not getting what happened). So I don't really see a reason for voting TSS on that, but calling hez a hypocrite for doing something he... didn't say anything about! Not a hypocrite there.

Vote: Yaw

See that? I said that Hez wasn't a hypocrite because he didn't say anything about, which Yaw called him a hypocrite for. This is NOT defending anything Hez said, it is punching a hole in Yaw's attack which was not even truthful. Yaw refused to say "lol u r rite, nvm" because he didn't want to admit he was lying to call Hez a hypocrite, or maybe, just maybe, he's just too stupid to realize wtf hypocrite actually means.

FA: its not that Agreeing with TSS is scummy, but I voted for calling him a hypocrite while he isnt.Greenliquid is scum. (>????)
<other stuff>
FA rejects points against her by stating "theehee" and "-_- fail TSS". HighFives MOS for defending her. Questions peoples views on 117.

Oh yeah, that's because I'm not at all showing how they apply to other things.

In fact, your above post does an excellent job of avoiding my argument against people on Yaw wagon by leaving it, and <snip=doing other stuff>

teehee.

I'm noting the irony in GL saying that I'm just avoiding the argument and doing other stuff, while I just pointed out how Yaw was avoiding what I was saying about him, shifting the topic to asking how agreeing with TSS was scummy.

Let me make one thing clear: I. NEVER. FUCKING. SAID. THAT. I said that Yaw calling Hez a hypocrite when he DID NOTHING HYPOCRITICAL was not a good thing to be doing. It's like me calling Yaw a lurker. Why the hell would I do that? It makes no sense! But I bet people would vote me if I said it, even if it wasn't part of an attack.

So you're saying that the worst case scenario is confirming 5 people lynching town (which isn't really the case; see above), as opposed to lynching scum and not getting anyone else's alignment? I'd say the confirming 5 people one way or the other is a greater scenario than finding one scum
However, that's really not the case anyways. This is where you wanna lynch scum and not town. Seriously.

What? What do you mean "this is the scenario where you want to lynch scum"? And what do you mean "I'd say the confirming 5 people one way or the other is a greater scenario than finding one scum"? No it isnt, Yaw is right, that IS trhe worst case scenario!

You are saying that confirming 5 people as either scum or as town is worse than lynching one scum? That's just stupid! The case, however, doesn't really involve confirming five people. He just said it would. Had it confirmed people, it would've been amazing, but it's actually the worst-case scenario, like he said. So either way, he was using bad reasoning.

3. FA bad reasoning, jumping on Yaw because he said hypocrite. There is so much wrong with this. 1 it makes it seem that she agrees with Hezs reasoning (wich is nonexistent). yaws comment was just a comment, he never pushed for Hez based on THAT!!! He pushed because Yaws reasoning is stupid!

I never said he pushed! People pushing things needn't be the case to find scum trying to paint people things! Also, I never said I fucking agreed with anyone!

STOP MAKING IT SOUND LIKE I SAID SHIT I DIDN'T FUCKING SAY!

I said that Yaw called hez a hypocrite, which he did. HEZ IS NOT A FUCKING HYPOCRITE FROM WHAT WAS TOLD ABOUT HIM! Yaw called Hez a hypocrite when he didn't say a damn thing that was hypocritical. If you can point out what Hez said that was so goddamn hypocritical, really, that's fucking fine, BUT HE DIDN'T! THAT IS WHY I STARTED VOTING YAW IN THE FIRST PLACE! Do NOT try to make it sound like I was defending SHIT that ANYONE FUCKING ELSE SAID UNLESS I FUCKING DEFENDED IT! I did NOT! All I did was tell Yaw to stfu calling Hez a hypocrite when he DID. NOT. SAY. ANYTHING. HYPOCRITICAL.

Fourth scummiest post of the day, when followed up by:.

Vote: Yaw

GOOD FUCKING JOB PUTTING THAT VOTE IN CONTEXT!

-_-

267 by MOS defends FA instead of FA->scumtell

What the fuck does that even mean?

And defending me from what? Coron said "lol what if you forget shit but u r a cop! lol!"

now that i think about it, that was minor cop fishing on the part of coron, but really, it's just a weak attack trying to poke a hole in the fact that I try to forget everything about my role until it's needed.

Coron doesnt want to finish the day with lynching the scummiest player in 288, whats up with that???

Oh, I dunno, maybe he wants to get more info to the town of connections and distances?

I swear, you really are retarded.

PBuG is prolly scum, btw. Or just a really meh player at best...

Reasoning is tech

Because I obviously haven't been giving reasoning EVERY FUCKING TIME I FUCKING SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HIM! GOOD GOD, WHY THE FUCK WOULD I DO THAT?!?!

380 by FA

Because ya know, if PBuG is somehow town, only mafia would've lynched him for doing that stuff.

defending MOS again! AND it was uncalled for to boot!

...Or maybe I'm attacking false logic?

Let me ask you guys something...

HOW COME EVERY FUCKING TIME I AM ATTACKING SOMEONE'S STUPID LOGIC FOR SAYING SOMETHING, SOME FUCKHEAD CALLS IT FUCKING DEFENDING SOMEONE INSTEAD OF FUCKING ATTACKING THE GODDAMN LOGIC?!?!

She also pushes for PBug hard.

No shit? I thought he was scum. I've said a billion time why.

Coron asks

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A ROLE THAT COVERS SUCH A WIDE RANGE OF CRITTERS?

That seems like a sensible thing to ask, as it could clear PBug. Nevertheless, its fishing again. If someone has, let that guy decide wether he sticks his neck out for PBug or not.

It's still letting that guy decide, it's just giving them a better reason to potentially save the cop.

Conclusions later.

Conclusion: You make it sound like I defend people instead of attacking shitty logic.

UNVOTE, VOTE: VISMAIOR

I've had it with you.

I really think the most information would come from a MOS or FA lynch. My second best bet would be Hez, i think. MBL is also high on my list.

vote FattyAcid

And you know what info would come from lynching me? That I'm town, that I haven't lied once, and that your attacks are not only horrendous, but that they were so strongly attacking town.

You. Fail. At. Mafia.

[FATty ACid]

Ad hominem here.

No, not really. I'm not kidding. Either he just wouldn't admit to it, or he really doesn't know what hypocrite means, because hez was not saying saying anything hypocritical.

Therefore you fail.

You are saying that confirming 5 people as either scum or as town is worse than lynching one scum?

Yes.

You fail again. Confirming 5 people as town is amazingly good. Confirming 5 people as scum is even better. Lynching one scum but having 5 people not get confirmed? Not as good.

Also, I never said I fucking agreed with anyone!

True, you even said later that you disagree with him. And, instead of asking him to clarify his points, you attack his opposition based on some wording.

Eh?

I said that Yaw called hez a hypocrite, which he did. HEZ IS NOT A FUCKING HYPOCRITE FROM WHAT WAS TOLD ABOUT HIM! Yaw called Hez a hypocrite when he didn't say a damn thing that was hypocritical. If you can point out what Hez said that was so goddamn hypocritical, really, that's fucking fine, BUT HE DIDN'T! THAT IS WHY I STARTED VOTING YAW IN THE FIRST PLACE! Do NOT try to make it sound like I was defending SHIT that ANYONE FUCKING ELSE SAID UNLESS I FUCKING DEFENDED IT! I did NOT! All I did was tell Yaw to stfu calling Hez a hypocrite when he DID. NOT. SAY. ANYTHING. HYPOCRITICAL.

Could you say that in all caps? I cant quiet make out what you intended to say.

...stfu about that. Seriously. you piss me off.

STOP MAKING IT SOUND LIKE I SAID SHIT I DIDN'T FUCKING SAY!

I dont "make it seem like you said something". Instead, you "make it seem like you agrreed, but you actually didnt". I just point that out.

You shouldn't be doing stupid shit like that, either.

267 by MOS defends FA instead of FA->scumtell

That means questions were aimed at you, and MOS answered them for you. That is tipical if someone thinks you may screw up your own defense(and people always think they could do better than the other guy).

Okay. But I don't know why that would happen here, as IT. DOES. NOT. MAKE. A. FUCKING. DIFFERENCE. TO. HIM. BECAUSE. I. AM. NOT. EVEN. SCUM.

And wait, WHAT FUCKING POST WAS THAT? Quote this shit so we can actually see it and know what the fuck you're talking about.

here's the post:

So you don't really forget your role.

If you remember anything you're going to give tells.

I can't speak for FA, but as far as I go, I generally forget everything about my role EXCEPT when I am cop, in which case I tend to remember that someone is innocent. When I am scum, I always forget who my scumbuddies are and have to go look it up from time to time >_<.

He's not defending me. He answered for himself, and guess what? It's not all that much off from what I do. I don't really know why he said it, but I really don't care. I still gave my answer, which was really the common sense answer for fucking everyone anyways, which coron just couldn't get his brain around.

I swear, you really are retarded.

Maybe. Or maybe not. I really dont understand these kind of comments. If you think Im mafia, why are you surprised? If you dont think I am. why do you say I am?

Because when I say you're retarded, I'm saying that if you are doing these things as town, you're retarded, and if not, you're mafia, and you're still retarded. Wanna know why? BECAUSE YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED. Your attacks DO. NOT. MAKE. SENSE. None. Not a bit. Nothing. As town, you're retarded. As scum, you're not even trying hard enough to make an attack that makes sense. Because you're retarded.

Because I obviously haven't been giving reasoning EVERY FUCKING TIME I FUCKING SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HIM! GOOD GOD, WHY THE FUCK WOULD I DO THAT?!?!

I didnt had that impression.

I just pointed out the reason for this: it's because you're retarded. Tell me what I didn't give reason for. Quote or at least give post numbers. For that matter, give post numbers anyways, scum.

...Or maybe I'm attacking false logic?

No. People often call "false logic" when they mean "false conclusions". I am not looking at your reasoning, instead I look at the metareasoning here. Again, questions asked MOS, and you answered instead. Its simply a situation where I expected MOSs name on top of the post, but it was yours instead.

Examples?

I've had it with you.

What? No more secks?

FUCK. YOU.

Seriously. Go fuck yourself right up the ass, as if you could fucking reach. Don't you ever fucking make comments like that, you worthless piece of shit, or I swear, I'm just fucking quitting this game, refusing to play but being here enough not to be replaced. I will happilly fuck this game over if you even DARE to say shit like that ever fucking again, do you hear me? Don't joke about shit. I'm not in the fucking mood for it, and for you, I never will be.

And you know what info would come from lynching me? That I'm town, that I haven't lied once, and that your attacks are not only horrendous, but that they were so strongly attacking town.

No I dont know that yet. If you come up clean, that would at least clear MOS and some other people in my eyes a bit. (not completely tough.) If you come up scum tough, I would have a second day target.

too bad I've done nothing wrong, then, eh?

You. Fail. At. Mafia.

O. .R.L.Y.?.

Ya rly.

...and reading, i'm sad to say that vm almost has a point with hez looking like scum.

[FATty ACid]

2. THOU SHALT NOT SUCK. It's just a game. Play your hardest and enjoy yourself. Don't take anything anyone else says too seriously. In the end, it's all in good fun.

I'd love to do that. Just seriously do not make jokes like that, kthx. ^_^

@the "ad hom": I'm not saying he is completely discredited because he's an idiot who doesn't know what the word means, I'm saying that calling him that means nothing but to try to make hez look bad, calling him a hypocrite, when hez did nothing hypocritical.

LEARN WHAT THESE THINGS MEAN, KTHX.

@Confirms: I -know- you can't. You are forgetting the original context now. I was saying that "IF YOU COULD, WHICH YOU CAN'T, BUT IF YOU COULD," 5 100% confirms would be way better than lynching 1 scum, because he was making it sound as though they could be confirmed. Therefore, you fail again.

I'm not being immature. I'm overreacting. If you could please, please, please tone down the stuff, I would not get so mad as to retaliate.

@Disntancing comment: Nice distancing there.

@TSS: I have different shades of what is or is not scummy. No one is all-or-none until confirmed one way or the other (in the game itself, or just in my head). I don't see how you could say I have to find him as scum or town, unless you assume I'm not town.