We're a Miller.
All allegiance investigations will come back as mafia on us.
We are Troll.
Yes, we're not amused.
Gut twinges and he seems overly excited. Weird.
~Sotty
MagnaofIllusion Post 139 wrote:Sottyrulez wrote:Paraphrased, our flavor with being a miller is that Troll speak effects the reading of our Allegiance.
Hmmm. I don’t see anything remotely flavor related in my Role PM. In light of the sample Miller PM not having flavor and Gamma’s statement I’m finding this suspect.
Sottyrulez wrote:The flavor is a passive ability called Trollspeak, this ability returns allegiance investigations as mafia and no result to all other investigations. We also can not be neighborized due to this passive ability.
Not sure that a description of an ability should be classified as flavor. Sottyrulez allegiance needs further examination.
I do like the Plum vote ... hmmmmm.
Gammagooey Post 133 wrote:sottyrulez wrote:Eh?
The flavor is a passive ability called Trollspeak, this ability returns allegiance investigations as mafia and no result to all other investigations. We also can not be neighborized due to this passive ability.
So does it actually say in the ability something like 'due to lack of understanding you can't be neighborized & your allegiance will be seen as mafia' or is it just the ability name and then a description of what it means game-wise?
sottyrulez Post 135 wrote:I paraphrased the passive ability in about the same detail as how it's written in the role pm.
VP Baltar wrote:I said I think gamma is town...that should be a pretty clear indicator.
re:talking to Magna - you think I'm asking him for any other reason than to figure out his alignment?
sottyrulez wrote:VP Baltar wrote:sottyrulez wrote:Hito, would you neighborize a claimed Miller?
~Sotty
I certainly would consider it...why not?
Because I would expect them to eat a vig bullet.
Made late in the game if they are still alive, otherwise it would be a waste IMO.
~Sotty
VP Baltar wrote:sottyrulez wrote:VP Baltar wrote:sottyrulez wrote:Hito, would you neighborize a claimed Miller?
~Sotty
I certainly would consider it...why not?
The real question is whether or not we'd be expected to claim this were we not a miller.
Well, I am just speaking theoretically, but if I was a neighborizor and I potentially wanted to stop a miller-viggin or a-lynchin, pulling you in with some night talk and trying to find your alignment in an up close and personal way wouldn't be a terrible idea. I think the inverse of what you said is actually the better play...ie, pull the miller in early to get an alignment before the vig shoots you. Just my feeling on it.
Plum wrote:What changed between these two posts?
Sotty wrote:I have aslight town read on Niki.I know Mina jumps all over the place as town andI'm not seeing scumMina asking about alignments like that.Plum's post on them makes me uneasy [about Plum]. I need to see that play out some more.
Plum Post 224 wrote:I understand 'big wall focusing entirely on attacks on someone I'm getting a townread off'.I don't understand 'all wallposts are bed'.There were about 7 pages between my two posts, and I had plenty I wanted to comment on. My question is where/why you switched from 'Plum is uneasy-making but not worth switching my vote' to 'Plum is worth my vote' (especially given that you said you needed to see it - I assume the me/Nicki Minaj interaction, and I assume you meant you needed to see more to judge whether your uneasiness with me was worth acting on).
Nobody Special Post 267 wrote:Sottyrulez: Without getting into your specific Role PM, do you think that perhaps every player's Role PM would share certain similarities? Why or why not?
VasudeVa Post 307 wrote:What's so bad about appealing? I'm not too confident in my ability to read Parama, so I'm asking other people. This is scummy, why?
I've already adressed the "why me" stuff, so don't give me that bull again.
I don't get why my mothrax vote is weak. Care to say why?
Plum wrote:
sottyrulez wrote:The flavor is a passive ability called Trollspeak, this ability returns allegiance investigations as mafia and no result to all other investigations. We also can not be neighborized due to this passive ability.
Ninja? This is not just Miller, this is not being able to be accounted for by Watcher Tracker et al (and that besides the Neighborizer immunity). Hm. Not just a Miller claim indeed. Why didn't you mention the Ninjahood aspect of the power when you claimed Miller?
ooba wrote:Quadz is def. scum - meta reasons - totally different vibe in another game
Vote: QuadzAlso we need to work out a method for revealing N0 worship and checking out yesterday's faith results. For this to give us the most info, we should have every player reveal N0 worship before we start talking about faith for various combinations on N1.
I suggest popcorn* since it's faster than combining different people's scum lists to come up with claim order. (Day has started at 50%)
*Meaning the first person is selected randomly and he chooses the next person to claim N0 worship
RayFrost Post 670 wrote:sottyrulez wrote:The thing I really dislike about Singer is the issue she made about the Mothrax PM which arguably lead to the modkill. I can't help but think that was deliberate.
Vote: Quadz
He's scum too.
Erm. What?
Singer didn't make a big deal: AGM, demonic angels, and myself, IIRC, were the main people discussing it at the time the mod team came to a decision. Singer at most paid lip service to the topic, while AGM and DA were pushing heavily on it having an impact on the game.
I fail to see why you don't find them suspect and choose to instead single out SS.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:VP Baltar wrote:Speaking of which...why aren't you voting quadz MoI? KILLKILLKILLKILL
Because I'm not enthused at all of the circumstances we are in.
Quadz is the OBV-lynch and surprise suprise we have a short day which raises the already strong likelyhood he takes the rope.
Throw in the fact that many of the people who I have scum to maybe scum reads are pushing him and I'm a big ball of meh.
If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I smell set-up.
Plum Post 728 wrote:Ninja means unTrackable and unWatchable - that is, return no result/didn't go anywhere/visit anybody - in my book. Thanks for clarifying. Power is nice and scummeh, though, but not conclusive in any way. I see DDD later leans town on Sottyrulez because he thinks the power is too strong for scum to have - the heck? It's a very useful scum power, sure, but with a game where insane amounts of action and power have the possibility of going down Ninja is a very viable scumpower. Ninja is, heck, basically a role made to help scum out when there are lots of action-detection powers going around. The doubt comes out of whether a scumbag would be bold enough to claim Ninjahood given its reputation or not. And given that it absolves Sottyrulez from accountability regarding any actions he's charged by the Town to make, if that ever happens . . . yeah. Furthermore - I did make the distinction between negative result/no result, just to clarify. It's possible I was using a different terminology than you expected, I suppose, but as far as I know it's pretty standard.
Plum Post 728 wrote:If it's 'grating' as opposed to scummy I get it. If it's 'dislike it in a scummy way' I don't. Clarify?
Plum Post 736 wrote:Sottyrulez -didyou ever evaluate my Parama case for sincerity beyond your impression that my target was too 'easy'?
singersigner Post 738 wrote:Excuse me while I barf all over your miscalculations.
Sequence of events:
I said it was completely null.
Everyone and their mother said "this totally makes him town for no gawddamned reason."
I did not see why and said, "fine, if you're making it a town tell, make it a town tell."
No one but Mothrax caused his modkill.
In fact, no one but AGM called for it.
(zomgz AGM must be scumz for getting Mothrax modkilled )
((except he's totally town so...))
Magua wrote:VP Baltar wrote:Magua wrote:Doublepost: Scum almost certainly have daytalk because the neighbors have daytalk, and VPB's #681 is almost certainly a scumslip.
So I say scum probably have daytalk, which was pointed out in the rules, and you say I'm scum because I said that. This is probably the first dumb thing I've ever heard you say Magua. Congrats.
You say they *do* have daytalk, which is *not* pointed out in the rules. In addition to that, when it's pointed out that it's not in the rules, your reaction isn't "Vi games always have daytalk", it's "Vi games always have daytalk and I would never make such a mistake and you're being an idiot."
It's that last part that seals it.
So, anyways, I'm really not liking the quadz lynch. It's too many people just repeatedly saying "quadz is scum" over and over and any argument is responded to with "quadz is still scum".
That said, I'm not sure I like the DA wagon at this point any better. I'm getting flashbacks to MoCO here, with the scum just pushing after the weaker players and town not bothering to try to differentiate scummy behavior from actual scum behavior.
Claiming of worships/domains is bad. However,@ooba, you've already claimed your domains. So claim your N1 faith, please. Don't need actions, don't need anything else, just want the faith total.
VP Baltar wrote:Hi sottyrulez, MoI revealed him as scum with his poo-wagon attempt on me. THINGS CHANGE.
Also, what are your thoughts on massclaiming today?
ooba wrote:sottyrulez wrote:I guess I can't really see any real downside to a massclaim at this point. I think I've got a pretty comprehensive townlist at this point to where I'm pretty confident in lynching everyone who's not on it.
Where do VP, MoI, DA and NS stand on that list?
Demonic Angel wrote:MagnaofIllusion wrote:DA wrote:Yep.
All that bark already netted two scum, and soon to be a third.
You aren’t voting for VPB and are voting me. Are you planning on netting him with a Night action?
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Harhar, real clever!
Yeah, no.
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So sotty, we're scum for bussing quadz, hito, and plum??
Ooba laying down the base for lynching us end of D2, and pushing it now is lols, especially given the flips.
Apparently everyone's impression of Fatesuki is that we like to do nothing except bus our entire scumteam.
Excuse me while I laugh.
Magua wrote:
sottyrulez wrote:
Oh, and I probably didn't say it explicitly enough, but I really don't see VP bussing quadz.
Why not?
VP Baltar wrote:I'd like my town reads to say whether they want me to claim my N2 action as Magua is requesting.
@MoI - you may as well give up, cause as I said before, your empty points are empty and I don't really care.