In the Court of the Gods (Game Over)
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Why are you voting for LL then?Jack wrote:I received a pm from NS asking me about my abilities, but I can't confirm that LL did.
Why are you voting for LL over DRK or hito who did the same thing?Me=Weird wrote:Vote: Lady Lamdadelta
Nobody cares about statistics. Nobody likes scum. You used statistics. You are scum.
Vote: Me=Weird
I'm so glad I missed the whole topic of stats right now.
That said my view is confirmed on what I expected. I really believe if a God is town they should question the heck out of any of their followers and see how they react in the QT and how they behavior there compared to the game.
That is in my view the best way to weed out any scum that may be in your group as well as talking here and looking for scum tells.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Although it was pregame chat I didn't like Me=Weird's vote on LL when 2 other people where doing the same thing and he doesn't acknowledge it. I see it as someone looking for an excuse to vote for that person when it looks to be a BW forming.DrippingGoofball wrote:I think farside is town.
As for MeWeird, I currently have no evidence either way. But I'm pretty sure I will soon be able to tell whether if he's town some way or another.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Where did you get the idea this would happen?Andrius wrote:KNOWING NS is the scumlord is worth the tradeoff.
Spy, its like sacrificing 4 VTs to get rid of a Bulletproof RoleCop.
(Not that extreme though.)
NS: Why are you pointing out this out:
But don't place a vote?Jack, bless his heart, is flat-out lying. I did send him the PM in question; he replied with two (very short) words. That is the extent of our communication thus far. I certainly did not claim scumGod.
See that is the Jack crazy I'm used to. I sat at work thinking about his actions and I realized he was already starting something at the very beginning, but alas I mistook it for seriousness.
I pretty much believe NS is the immortal scum God. He doesn't place a vote with a very serious accusation towards Jack and doesn't vote for Jack based on the supposed claim by Jack.
any town worth there salt would have vote Jack right off the bat and made the statement of why as soon as it happened.
I got my eye on Andrius and until Me=Weird comes in to explain himself my vote stands.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Looking back into TMH
NS is immune to kills and lynches. He is found lying all we know for sure is he's untrustworthy and that's all.themanhimself wrote:Pretty much the only thing we can do today is lynch Jack. I don't see anyway to move forward without resolving this glaring inconsistency and since we can't lynch NS we pretty much have to lynch Jack. Besides that, the way I'm seeing the situation, it's a lot more likely that Jack is the one lying, I can see motivation and a means for that at least where I can't with NS.
NS found lying in short means just that we know who the scum God is. That tells us nothing of the scum mortals.
Jack lying means as a mortal he is lynched and he did this gambit to get lynched to go against his WINCON?
Really?
themanhimself wrote:Oh my god, now Iknowthat Jack is lying. This is such a clear OMGUS accusation. And why the hell would the scum god tell you his scumbuddies so you can go lynch them? I'm worried Jack is a jester, but I've played with Jackscum before and he was absolutely terrible, so maybe it's just that again.
God this was so funny it needed to be quoted again just for the hysterical laughter I got reading the dialog back and forth.
I can see why there is a wagon here. Mentioning Jesters when there is no mention of it in the set up, asking that ridiculous question about why would the scum god tell you his scumbuddies, like really Jack is a mind reader?
Also the push on Jack and believe NS for really inconsequential reason's.
My one problem with TMH is his reaction that I'm laughing hard at (insert mean comment about players lack of common sense) that I don't imagine scum being that stupid.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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DGB is lurking more and hasn't given her list of who is town or scum yet. She also called me town based on very little.
NS thinks Jack is anti-town but not worth a vote because he's immortal???!!!
And Fishy has well he always strikes me as scummy and this game isn't real different. I just posted my two cents in response to your question by the way Fishy.
Ugh!
I don't like DGB answer for Me=Weird and giving him an excuse before he could respond. Things like that bother me and it's the number 1 reason I have yet to switch my vote.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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@DGB: I know my internet saves my sign in's. To see if tajo is really lying about the "mistake" I would check the times he posted as tajo and when he posted as Anonscum. If the times are short I would consider him lying.
I know one player that actually posted in his scum QT and then posted in another QT (he was mason scum) with the scum name.
I need reread this game to full. I really don't get the TMH lynch. I understand frustration when you feel someone is scummy and anyone who says what Jack didn't wasn't at the very least anti-town is out-right lying.
What TMH doesn't seem to compute is that Jack gambits I have seen usually have come from him being town. That game you guys are referring to wasn't as extreme as this in my view.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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okay I'm doing some quick reads on people right now. However I need to stop due to child coming home and dinner needing to be finished.
Here are my views so far:
Andrius - I feel on the fence with Andrius. He's doing more joking around then scum hunting. His last post has town/scum but admits to not paying attention. Not sure how he can have a true list then. I don't really point to him and say SCUM, but nothing in his post really screams town either
populartajo - tajo replaces someone I know who is around. This bugs me. DGB mentions the QT mixed sign ups. So far tajo is in read mode. IGYEOU
hitogoroshi - I'm not sure why finding the scum god is a priority when we can't lynch or kill the God. Every town player worth their salt should be cautions of their God. The goal is to lynch or get the mortal scum.
Why did TMH jump or how? Why did you vote for him here?hitogoroshi wrote:Okay, I get what you're doing, Jack. I still feel justified in the initial wagon on you- it's not a certainty that the scum immortal knows who the scum are, since a theme of this setup does seem to be "gather information in QT with your Immortal/your High Priests". Given that, it's not a huge leap to take your first post at face value, in my view at least. But you ratcheted it up to a zany level and TMH still jumped. I'm not quite sure if that's a newbtell or a scumtell, but regardless:
Unvote, Jack. Vote: TMH
Fun fact: if TMH flips scum, NS is one of the town gods.
Also, Equi is town.
post 246 why are you only seeing this from a scum prospective?
post258 red alert, red alert, giving an out for another player sets my scumdar going.
me=weird - votes LL when others used statistics too. Ask pretty pointless questions.
Hito: Post #46 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:55 pmweird wrote:farside: I only mentioned LL because when I made the post she was the only one who'd talked about stats. Then I didn't notice the new posts in preview.
andrius Post #49 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:02 pm
LL Post #50 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:06 pm
DKR Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:10 pm
Me=Weird vote: Post #55 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:13 pm
Me=Weird lying 100%
so far vote is not moving.
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Still reading, need to get ready for work here is the latest reads on some players I got thru.
SpyreX - I really can't say I'm a fan of spyreX back and forth about Jack. First Jack is town, then
Jack's upping the stakes makes no sense as a town gambit, then he is against lynching Jack. He placed one vote for Me=Weird and just responds with more fluff then scum hunting.
EquinoxEquinox wrote:I want me a new red-colored wagon to put my toys in.
Unvote, Vote: Jack
hypocrite much?Equinox wrote:
I'm not thrilled about the reasons behind the new Jack votes, but it's a Jack wagon, so I'm not going to complain (too much).
Wow just wow Equinox is so much X then agreeing with with this is the second one I found:It is worth it, but I wouldn't put in excessive amounts of effort into finding the scum god. Lynching mortals is faster and easier.
Equinox: Why are you voting for TMH?While I'm in favor of finding the scum god (as long as we're not blowing time on it), a Jack vs. Nobody Special lynch dichotomy is not the way to do this, and so I strongly disagree with lynching Jack to "learn" about Nobody Special.
Also if you know jack normally does gambits why did you vote for him?
What reads did you garner from Jack's gambit?
The pro's about Equinox: He's asking questions, points a few things out and generally seems to be scum hunting. I just have those few nagging thoughts above that make me question him.
Gut feel equinox is town but those things that make me go hmm. Spreyx may be scum, he's not striking me as town. No pushing, questioning, moving things along. More fluff then anything.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Lots of arguments to read last page. I want to finish my read of all the players before I get in the middle of LL and Eq.
DRK wins the award for knowing Gary Larson. That was the best laugh I had today (sad to say).
I have tons o crap to do so I don't expect to finish my read of everyone before my LA tomorrow, I will try my best.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Almost done. I have 3 more players after this but I'm heading out to dinner.
Here's were I am at, and no I'm not going to worry about who is scum God at this time, my goal is to find the scum mortal.
Feysal - sarcastic
It was SpyreX who said you would flip town. Andrius simply followed up on that. Are you even paying attention?Jack #120 wrote:
You know I'm town thus you are scum.Andrius wrote:Ok guys, why would knowing who the scumgod is NOT be worth it?!?
What??? One has nothing to do with the other.
I really don't know about Feysal. I feel troubled when I see someone who hasn't voted someone and doesn't have real scum reads. I don't read anything that really comes across as scummy. I read his post as more trying to figure things out but I wish I could see more scum hunting from him and opinions or question of others to decide for sure.
Mina - 2 post seems thought out, too early to get a read.
themanhimself -
post 145
This is lazy and way too early for thinking like this.
There is a lot of talk about Jack's lie and I get the frustration and feeling from TMH from his views and opinion as a town prospective and not scummy.
TMH do me a big favor and tell me who else you find scummy in the game and why?
I think this may help clear you single mindness as well.
Benmage - four post, 1 promising to catch up. Nothing super great, nothing to report here.
DeathRowKitty - after not much said the first few post I get to a post full of oppinions. I do think it's odd that he votes for TMH, but says he has subtle town vibes for him. Doesn't quite make sense.
I really, really don't understand the vote for hito when you never said anything about him in your catch up post
well at least he is voting for LL for a reason. I expect more from DRK but maybe that's just a long ago memory when he did his own gambit as town once upon a game.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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before I forget to ask and go to bed and have absolutely very little time to think about mafia tomorrow.
Fishy: Why did you ask me in the QT what I found scummy about you and you didn't ask that in public?
What is your view of equinox in the QT? and are you chatting with all your follows to some extent?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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1) Well the last game we were in was a zoraster game and I thought you came off scummy there for different reason, hence my I always find fishy scummy comment. I'm sure we were in another game but that was the one I was thinking of when I made that statement. I answered what in this game made you scummy to see what you would say. (hey your 3rd on my list as far as scum God, but not for a good reason).Fishythefish wrote:@farside:
1. You said you always found me scummy. That made me think that it wasn't massively game relevant, and so I asked in the QT (your answers were actually more specific to this game than I expected from your post in the thread). Also, I wanted to get a conversation going in there.
2. I am chatting to all my followers to varying extents. I don't intend to make any reads from my QTs public until it becomes a good idea (ie. they are being wagonned, or I have a decently strong scumread on them). I think there is more to be gained by waiting.
3) fair enough. But I think a few days (game days) all the God's should have some feed back about their follows from the QT.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Zang - I reread the catch up post which as many quotes with one liners. I have no clue why the fos on TMH.
Nope second post no reasoning for the FOS, except he was the closest thing he had to a scum read.
Zang is bitching about the game, wow I sense bitterness. I hate people who bitch about games and don't try to make it better or help move it along, or if your confused why the fuck you don't ask questions then?
I don't like Zang more for the lack of scum hunting. I think the only valid comment he made was about NS pointing out his inactivity and not mentioning others like Tajo or Benmage. I don't like N.S. response even less.
Other then that it's one liners with no real reason's stated. Also why would you go into a game if the concept confuses you in the first place?
Jack - I think Jack is town. He's confusing me a bit, but he looks into things people say and comment about it, it's more off handed then I like. I think I need to finish my read of everyone before I can decide 100% were I sit will Jack.
I just have LL, but I don't have the brain power to do that read today.
As of this point my scum list has:
Me=Weird/CMAR
Andrius
spyrex
Hito
people who make me go hmmm
zang
The I have no read and lack of posting goes to:
benmage
mina
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So you posting around MS for the weekend but not posting here is too ubber busy to come and read this game too?Andrius wrote:I'm here I'm here.
*Insert I've-been-unusually-busy-this-weekend that no one cares to know about, so yeah*
I meant to read this weekend; it hasn't happened. I WILL catch up.
Why do you know only about SpreX? Did you check on other lurkers in the game who are not posting as much as well?hito wrote:
From what I can tell, SpyreX is having some real life things and his activity is diminished in all of his games. Saying, "you're scum, because you'd be playing harder as town" doesn't seem exactly fair. Of course, this doesn't preclude him from being scum, but at least personally I like the little bit I've seen of him in thread.
How is it the scummiest OMGUS? Explain what part of it looked scummy to you in more and vibrate terms.tajo wrote: wtf is farside's 102? its the most scummy omgus ive seen in a while.
Besides this ^ What makes me scum in your view?
Why is Feysal on your scum list?
Why is Andrius and CMAR town in your view?
DRK: Why did it take someone to vote for you to come back and make comments on the game?
The only point I will say is that tajo caused DRK to come back to this game and talk, when he's been very quiet, also I think the LOL is not a scum tell. Saying oh my god he laughed he's scum and a player doesn't react or say something or they do is a weak scum tell in my view, but DRK's reaction to be called out raises DRK to hmmmm statusSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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1) I'm responding as I get into the game. I come online and something hits me during day, which I can't get online to say so I post it as soon as I get home (yes I miss MS at work)populartajo wrote:farside22 wrote:
How is it the scummiest OMGUS? Explain what part of it looked scummy to you in more and vibrate terms.tajo wrote: wtf is farside's 102? its the most scummy omgus ive seen in a while.It was the fact that you hadnt said a word about Jack and then when he attacked you, you came up with reasons that could have been given in your serious post of the game.
Besides this ^ What makes me scum in your view?basically that and the fact that you seem to attack everyone without trying to look who could be town
Why is Feysal on your scum list?too many words to say something
Why is Andrius and CMAR town in your view? CMAR replaced Me=Weird which is an obv reckless town read. Andrius RVS was very relaxed but if he is avoiding the game then he is def losing town status.
2) I attacked everyone? Seriously did I not just post iioa with who I thought was town?
3) I don't accept that answer
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Yes because I use the QT to question people and try and see if my read is accurate. See how they respond to questions in the QT and in the game.tajo wrote:be sincere, if you were me and had a scum read in your god, would you go that QT and talk freely with him/her? EVen if you didnt have a red on him/her, would you go and plan how to play the game?
It has nothing to do with trust. It's feeling a person out in private and comparing it to the public game.tajo:
answer the question. Would you go on and blindly trust someone that can be scum?
tajo:
"1. DGB asked in the QTs : "would you sacrifice yourself as a VT for a PR?" According to her this was a test and the right answer would be : ""I wont claim but if I were vanilla I'd be delighted to sacrifice myself to preserve a power role.
If everyone says I would sacrifice myself for a PR how is it rolefishing? She didn't ask for a PR and no one stated they claimed a PR so your point is.....???
If everyone says yes then DGB (if scum) thinks everyone in here squad is VT, this hurts the town how?2. Tajo realized this could be a potential attempt to rolefish for VTs as some idiotic people could go on and claim VT that could sacrifice for PRs. He attacks DGB for this.
This may give me pause to consider something I got.....
I need an honest opinon from other players.
Do you feel the QT is a good thing to have?
Do you use it?
What do you think of people that don't post much in the QT?
I ask this for a really good reason right now if DGB's theory holds true I have some other insight and I get paranoid easily.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Hito has the view that I have in regards to QT.
So call this paranoid but here is my thought process:
Fishy created a QT saying that basically he would be not using it as much. It's like he didn't see a point to having a QT if you know what I mean.
He doesn't really use it, which bothers me a bit. I see mina stating she is putting all her thoughts down in the QT to fishy (i had meant to ask fishy what his view on Mina was, not equinox in one post I made) so far he hasn't responded. DGB is doing what I figure a good town player would do with unknown alliances in the QT.
I wonder why Fishy is asking questions in the QT that he should ask in the game, that are things I said in the game. These are my pondering thoughts with Fishy.
Jack/LLL and NS follows how is NS doing with his QT? Does he talk much there?
Anyways, I wondered if scum would use the excuse that Mina if their God is scum too, so they didn't have to post much in thread?
@DGB: what makes you believe that if tajo flips scum that automatically puts fishy as the scum God?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I noticed you completely ignored my second question which even you know puts a bit dent in your point.populartajo wrote:
it is rolefishing in the sense that people would unintentionally state they are vanillas, therefore they are not PRs, therefore scum would increase their likeliness of hitting PRs by avoiding vanilla shots.farside22 wrote: tajo:
"1. DGB asked in the QTs : "would you sacrifice yourself as a VT for a PR?" According to her this was a test and the right answer would be : ""I wont claim but if I were vanilla I'd be delighted to sacrifice myself to preserve a power role.
If everyone says I would sacrifice myself for a PR how is it rolefishing? She didn't ask for a PR and no one stated they claimed a PR so your point is.....???Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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tajo wrote:2. Tajo realized this could be a potential attempt to rolefish for VTs as some idiotic people could go on and claim VT that could sacrifice for PRs. He attacks DGB for this.If everyone says yes then DGB (if scum) thinks everyone in here squad is VT, this hurts the town how?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Also before I forget tajo while you are on your DGB is scum rant.
Everyone else said yes to the question do you honestly believe that means they are all VT's by saying they would sacrifice themselves to help a PR?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I don't trust you. I'm a paranoid player by nature and believe that talking things out that bother me in open is more productive.Fishythefish wrote:farside22 wrote:So call this paranoid but here is my thought process:
Fishy created a QT saying that basically he would be not using it as much. It's like he didn't see a point to having a QT if you know what I mean.
He doesn't really use it, which bothers me a bit. I see mina stating she is putting all her thoughts down in the QT to fishy (i had meant to ask fishy what his view on Mina was, not equinox in one post I made) so far he hasn't responded. DGB is doing what I figure a good town player would do with unknown alliances in the QT.
I wonder why Fishy is asking questions in the QT that he should ask in the game, that are things I said in the game. These are my pondering thoughts with Fishy.I have said why I won't respond to questions about my QTs, and you seemed satisfied with the answer. In my QTs, I'm generally trying to get discussion going (ours is among the worst of mine for that, as it happens). Honestly, I haven't been able to think of much to say to you - and you've hardly been pushing the conversation along. Trying to get things going is the reason I have asked you things there which seemed only marginally interesting in the thread.
I asked about Mina specifically to you because of her constant, I'm chatting up with fishy in the QT instead of here post that bothers me. You stated you weren't really going to be checking the QT so I figured it was more useful talking here.
@tajo: Why do you keep acting like only your way is possible and nothing anyone else says seems reasonable?
I have this imagine of someone beating their chest or more like a child saying no, no, no your all wrong and only I am right.
I can't imagine why you don't see things from two points of views.
Either (1) DGB is scum trying to role fish (i personally don't see the question he asked can be made that way as someone not sure of DGB's alignment could lie and say yes to the question even if they have a PR themself)
(2) DGB was scum hunting in here group looking for reactions.
How are both not possible to your thinking?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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unvote: Andrius
This vote is clearly not a good one in my view anymore. Andy more then explained things and I got a good town vibe from his recent play.
vote: Spryex
The jury is out on tajo. I'm bothered by a few things he's saying, I sense the stubbornness from his post, but the unreasonable attitude is what I'm bothered by. It's not something I see often from town when hit with a whole lot of logic and can't see both sides. I do sense a bit of panic in his post so I'm willing to switch on tajo, but for now I want more from Spryex. Also DRK I wanted an answer to my question about why you stayed quiet most of this game until tajo voted for you then started spamming and pointing fingers to him?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Shouldn't you be.....oh I don't know looking for scum and responding about things going on in the game?DeathRowKitty wrote:
I tend to be a bit lazy when it comes to responding to new developments in games. Responding to votes on me is easy and probably more important, so I'm less lazy about it.....plus, I started to get a bit out of control after a little while of responding. Responses I considered out of thread were a lot more angry than ones I posted in thread.farside wrote:Also DRK I wanted an answer to my question about why you stayed quiet most of this game until tajo voted for you then started spamming and pointing fingers to him?
I sense lazy scum more then town with your response so far.
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I was about to cry when I saw DTM do the fake kill. I almost believed it, except I thought in my head would a town vig kill someone without a full read?
@tajo: I asked you a couple of questions a few pages ago, a response would be nice.
DKR: Explain your scum list. IE: Why do you suspect those you listed?
DGB: I appriecate your enthusiasm, but do to another game I can't mention my lack of trust in your scum reads leads me to stick with my gut impression at the moment.
DKR really is rubbing me wrong with his response to tajo at the moment and I couldn't agree more with Jack on that vote. I know scum have a harder time saying who they think are scum and why. That was why initial I was bothered by Mina's lack of comments as well as SpyreX.
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It was in the very first post he made in the QT. He stated to the effect he would be using the public thread more then the QT.Equinox wrote:Hmm... I was going somewhere with that, but apparently I goofed and misread.
At what point did Fishythefish tell you this, farside22?farside22 wrote:I don't trust you. I'm a paranoid player by nature and believe that talking things out that bother me in open is more productive.
I asked about Mina specifically to you because of her constant, I'm chatting up with fishy in the QT instead of here post that bothers me.You stated you weren't really going to be checking the QTso I figured it was more useful talking here.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Sorry had to get my notes from a day ago and finish off on a few things I noted.
Here is my issues with DKR:
DRK: Why did you ask this to LL
When all you did was LOL at the situation.DeathRowKitty wrote:LL, what do you think of the Jack-NS thing?
first few post full of fluff.
I don't like this answer about short deadlines
Why is rushing better day 1? Why would anyone town want discussion later?I would prefer a relatively short deadline at first that Fishy extends only if necessary. I'd rather we start out feeling a bit rushed and get more discussion time later than start out feeling like we have a lot of time and watch the deadline roll over us.
Votes for TMH then in the same post states:
Why?Blah blah, subtle town vibes from TMH. It makes me sad that it's possible someone who's town did what TMH did.
Leaving my vote where it is for now.
Next vote is on hito with no reason
Jumps on the LL wagon, to the Zang wagon.
Then has the fight with Tajo.
In short very little scum hunting from DRK. He jumps from BW to BW with no real scum suspects noted now.
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Fishy why didn't you call Mina out when she mentioned that she was sharing her thoughts in the QT about people?mina wrote:For the record, I haven't been significantly more active in the QT with Fishy than in the thread, aside from questioning him a few times, making a few useless fluff comments I wouldn't bother with in the main thread (like "I see LL is getting wagoned, but I'm not following closely enough to tell why"), and saving a half-finished post there.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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9DrippingGoofball wrote:CMAR's player slot is now officially townie. And it's funny that the mod just ninja'd me with the replacement announcement!
I reserve the right to judge that for myself when the player actually makes a worthwhile post.
In other news I noticed the mod looking for a replacement for TMH, yup looks like that is site wide at the moment.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Just rereading a few things. I still get that feeling that SpyreX is scum. He is just floating by as well. Making fluff comments. So far one case on Mina, other then that I don't have a good town feel from SpreX either.
scum list:
DRK
SpyreX
Hito (yes he's still on there)
the I have no read list:
cmar (insert replacement name here)
DTM (his last post gave me somewhat warm fuzzy's but after the last game I was in with him, I keep one eye open while sleeping with him)
BenmageSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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When all you do is make 2 line comments it makes it difficult to put into words the scummy feel that comes from it.SpyreX wrote:Thats been me all game but much like the 'SpyreX is scum for *chirp*' I can't get anyone to SAY whether I've lost my mind or not in the clear terms.
It's making me crazier and soon it'll be me talking to myself
For someone complaining about gut feel you seem to use that yourself.
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Then there is SpreX who is all about saying this person is town, that person is town. Oh wait someone voted me gasp their scum for not making a case.SpyreX wrote:Except its not JUST gut and *gasp* its based on this game not some mystical force off evil.
Sup pot and kettle how's it going?
(ohh SNAP three lines)
What was your scum suspect before? Oh right Me=Weird
Let look at the reason's there
Wow, that's a whole lot of brilliance there.SpyreX wrote:That said the Jack-move doesn't bother me.
Vote: Me=Weird
This does. For now.
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Your scum suspects thus far are....me=weird and mina, with a I would vote for DRK.SpyreX wrote:Yes, and there was no reasons ever.
I mean, I can get out the diagrams and spend a thousand words to explain what is there. Or, vote it and go. And, even last page to someone who I've got that itch over answer when they ask like a normal.
And those little snipes are awesome and all but where's the rub? Me saying people are town and saying people are scum? OHH THE SHOCK AND HORROR.
Reasons are?
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Lets see mina not giving a good case or reasoning but based on meta means she's scummy? This has nothing to do with the fact she is voting you does it?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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You go look for it. I did my research.KRK Scum wrote:I've already explained this somewhere. Go look for it.
Your next post for hito was as follow:I'd given some sort of reasoning on hito in an earlier post and I certainly gave some sort of reasoning with my Zang vote (also, I think there were 2 votes on Zang before I voted him, so I would hardly call that a wagon). Do you have a problem with my Zang vote or is your problem with it just that I changed my vote?
Which is what you were doing yourself as far as talking stats and he was scum hunting before you, so your point for the vote was what?Looking back on it now, I'm not sure my suspicion based on that made much sense. I think my reasoning was something to do with scum being more interested in setup-related issues and less in the game itself.
Yes, I've jumped from the hito wagon that I'm pretty sure consisted only of myself to the LL wagon that probably contained no more than 3-4 people including myself to the Zang wagon that I'm pretty sure contained 3 people including myself. Unless you think my votes themselves are scummy, this is a meaningless accusation.
TMH, LL, Zang
Are you really counting a useless vote that went nowhere with a oh I thought reason as a valid vote.
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^omgus voteDeathRowKitty wrote:
It took me under a minute to find in my iso. Clearly you didn't do enough research.farside randomly pointing things out and hoping something makes sense wrote:You go look for it. I did my research.
Are you sure you actually read my posts...? My reasoning was explained in an earlier post (in fact, I think it was in my first post with content)....or are you objecting to me changing my mind about how scummy something was?farside wrote:Your next post for hito was as follow:[...]Which is what you were doing yourself as far as talking stats and he was scum hunting before you, so your point for the vote was what?
My hito vote was more serious than my TMH vote, which I just arbitrarily left on him until I found someplace useful to put it. Once again, are youfarside wrote:TMH, LL, Zang
Are you really counting a useless vote that went nowhere with a oh I thought reason as a valid vote.
Your doing more following then a priest should do.sureyou actually read my posts?
As far as I can tell, you saw votes build up on me, then went back and made up crap so you could say you contributed to the DRK case. No, vague feelings of "hmmm...I remember DRK playing better last time" don't count as having had suspicions of me before then. Die scum.
Unvote, vote: farside22
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So you don't know where it is and want to call me out. NiceIt took me under a minute to find in my iso. Clearly you didn't do enough research.
So why did you drop your case on hito if you had something then?Are you sure you actually read my posts...? My reasoning was explained in an earlier post (in fact, I think it was in my first post with content)....or are you objecting to me changing my mind about how scummy something was?
Lets ignore the fact farside called DRK on following each BW with Zang, LL and TMH but hey it's all good. Keep ignoring my points. Lets see why everyone else is voting for you that you are not asking things about:As far as I can tell, you saw votes build up on me, then went back and made up crap so you could say you contributed to the DRK case. No, vague feelings of "hmmm...I remember DRK playing better last time" don't count as having had suspicions of me before then. Die scum.
tajo scum list no reasonmod wrote: DeathRowKitty ( 5 ) populartajo, Jack, nopointinactingup, Equinox, farside22, (L - 5 )
Jack ( 2 ) Corvuus, DTMaster (L - 8 )
jack vote hop
jack hop again
CMAR vote with no reason
equinox makes a case
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WHERE ARE YOU DRK. In your crap case against me you forgot to mention my fos on you as well
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DIE SCUM DIERead what I fucking wrote, please. <3
DIE SCUM DIERead what I fucking wrote, please. <3
DIE SCUM DIERead what I fucking wrote, please. <3
DIE SCUM DIERead what I fucking wrote, please. <3
If that is your only response that is mine. It means you have no response back, which means.......
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Right my FOS had nothing to do with your so called laziness.DeathRowKitty wrote:
I did have a response. It's just that my response to every part of it would have included "that's not what I said." I saved you some reading by shortening it. You should be thanking me. Also, talk about grumpy! I put hearts all over my post and you respond with "DIE SCUM DIE"farside wrote:If that is your only response that is mine. It means you have no response back, which means.......
your scum. Thank you for playing.
As for the FoS thing, my point is that you saw suspicion build up on me, then went back and made up crap so you didn't look like you were just mindlessly wagoning. Honestly, an FoS for lurking is kind of meh, especially considering my recent meta has been a hell of a lot lurkier than I've been in this game.
Explain how my case is crap. It's a nice word and all but really only one other person who voted for you had an actual case on you.
My impression of you when I did my iso had you as hmmm. How is that following when I had a questionable read of you during my iso?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Oh look another stellar case right here. Lets see DRK ignore him too.Benmage wrote:Right....your predecessor blows.
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On to less sarcastic moments.
So one person had suspicion (I believe) when I did my fos so I'm following on one but you justify you not following with Zang like this:
Seriously DIE SCUM DIE (Here is a <3) if it helpsDRK scum wrote:I'd given some sort of reasoning on hito in an earlier post and I certainly gave some sort of reasoning with my Zang vote (also, I think there were 2 votes on Zang before I voted him, so I would hardly call that a wagon). Do you have a problem with my Zang vote or is your problem with it just that I changed my vote?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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DeathRowKitty wrote:
Several players had called me scummy in the previous pages at the time of your FoS (the previous several pages only accounted for 2 days worth of posts, so even though suspicion of me began on page 17, that was less than 3 days before your FoS).farside wrote:So one person had suspicion (I believe) when I did my fos so I'm following on one but you justify you not following with Zang like this:farside wrote:My impression of you when I did my iso had you as hmmm. How is that following when I had a questionable read of you during my iso?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Sorry it wasn't my iso, that was my after I got back from my V/LA. Sorry I couldn't respond sooner but you know I was not able to get to the computer very much.
My iso was more about my gut impression of you that you keep referring to.
I would call this a null read.DeathRowKitty - after not much said the first few post I get to a post full of oppinions. I do think it's odd that he votes for TMH, but says he has subtle town vibes for him. Doesn't quite make sense.
I really, really don't understand the vote for hito when you never said anything about him in your catch up post
well at least he is voting for LL for a reason. I expect more from DRK but maybe that's just a long ago memory when he did his own gambit as town once upon a game.
Sorry I can't be online 24 hours a day to respond. When I did my hmm response only tajo and jack said anything about you at the time.
However your case, farsides case is crap with no reason.
You can't say well I voted when 2 people where voting for Zang but farside stated suspicion when 2 people brought up my name and stated suspicion is following.
That's pure hypocrisy which again is scummy.
I also love how you ignore every person who didn't make a case and argue with only those who have an opinion.
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Reading Corv's post I'm doing a complete 180 and calling that slot scum.
You know when you see someone trying to build a case and it looks like it's full of uncertainty and using mostly meta argument about someone being scum.
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first off, love the new activity overview button. As a mod I love it to look for those not posting at certain times. As a player it helps to see those not posting much and see if they are like that everywhere.
I see the topic if fishy is scum or not is coming up.
I'm thinking NS is more scummy but things fishy said to me in the QT make no sense as town. Every instict I have when I chat with him sounds manufactured.
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I asked fishy why he wasn't pushing things since he is imortal and has not fear of dying like DGB.
I can't use his exact words but the sum up is this:
He is concerned with making mistakes in the game. He feels the burden on his shoulders since he is going to be in the game for the long haul and being a god gives him a burden of being really good at something that is hard to live up to.
This sounded incredibly odd to me for an answer. I don't see why a God would have fear or any of these issues he mentions.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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What question?SpyreX wrote:Hey farside you never answered that question about the actual state of my reads.
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This one?
That looked like sarcasm.And those little snipes are awesome and all but where's the rub? Me saying people are town and saying people are scum? OHH THE SHOCK AND HORROR.
I disagreed with your thinking on tajo as maybe scum. I disagree with your thoughts on Mina, I find it more OMGUS and the me=weird/cmar slot is non-vocal, but I found me=weird to be scummy.
You have since changed your views on tajo I believe but have said nothing about DRK. What is your view?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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backtracking 101 for scums. I see you took the class, you must have failed as your case has failed.DRK the scum wrote:There's not much to argue about when someone just say "vote: DRK lolurscum." Plus, in all honesty, I'm not sure votes based on this post (and the post after it) were unwarranted. My contention was that you saw my wagon forming and pulled up random crap from my iso so you could say you made a case.
I already proved I didn't like your game play before.
Saying hmmm is equivalent to IGMYOU is just your way of trying to say my views were not real.
You can't have your belief, saying I never had any suspicion then backtrack to make it sound better.
Your case has been proven invalid and you have nothing else because your scum making a weak ass case.
I also love how you only get active when attacked but still do very little scum hunting through-out the game.
@Corv: I will discuss my thoughts about you later. I need to get ready for work.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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No. Last I checked was this morning.Fellow followers of Fishythefish: Has he posted in your QuickTopics recently?
Don't know what your talking about so I'm going to disagree unless I have better reason.DTMaster wrote:Due to some QT relays I am leaning towards DRK town. Same conditions apply to Jack. As well LLD is behaving normally relayed via NS. I am awaiting for Benmage.
Le shock! Right? I'm going to maintain my Feysal push. I'm on my phone but expect details soon.
Also I really don't see Feysal as scum upon my read.
no clueDrippingGoofball wrote:GUESS WHY
I don't get what your putting down here. What's the question?SpyreX wrote:You're going to get a more in-depth post tonight when I'm home but for now:
FARSIDE THIS:
Before I get all rage mode I'll go ahead and clarify that you are saying my reasons for m=r and mina are ?.
Because, well, time saving and all that.
@Corv:
Really this is DRK scumhunting more? You have links to games he scum hunted less? (IE: not following)DRK: Actually, it seems like your play style and meta has changed. You actually seem to be scumhunting and more interested in lynching scum than just trying to 'omgus/save yourself'. Whats going on?
What about his post rings scummy in this game?DRK generally always looks scummy regardless of alignment. It is his nature.
His exact responses and exchange with tajo is interesting.
Am I the only one who doesn't find it that important? I had a game that had daytalking scum. It's not that powerful.DGB: the existence of scum day talk makes me not share your opinion.
It is more helpful end game in my view. Why do you find it that powerful?
yes.Farside: Your reference to TMH is reference to me?
I don't see either option. In case you missed the conversation DRK admitted his votes were following (except zang who had two votes so apparently that is not following)1. You are town and are actively trying to prevent your own lynch while finding scum.
2. You are scum but somehow are fairly calculating in how you prevent your own lynch while driving a wagon on someone else while appearing as in 1.
and made a crap case on me. How is he scum hunting again?
I read this as I'm going to be wishy washy as hell all game.When I said that you tend to 'look/appear' scummy, you should realize it isn't a "dismissal" in that everything you do is scummy therefore you must be scum, but that you tend to 'appear' scummy regardless of your alignment and I (and others) need to read and consider it more. That is why I find it interesting since a DRK-scum in previous game would play differently than what you are doing now. I would consider you to be town based on other parts but since there IS day talk scum chat, I can not discount the difference in play style from 1. previous game(s) to this game, 2. early game this game ('laziness') to 'being wagoned/voted' this game.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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SpyreX wrote: Farside is now way up on that murderin' list.
Awesome!I'm TRYING to get DGB to work with me here since she thinks I'm off my rocker BUT expect an I told you so between M=W and Mina (with a side of Farside now)
I always love seeing people fall flat on their face when they are hit with a dose of how wrong they are about me based on nothing they can explain.
You don't believe me just read my sig.
Can someone explain besides DTM why Feysal is scummy?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Lets say you didn't dismiss my allegation of following. Except for Zang, which people had been talking about for a couple of pages before you placed your vote. I counted about 3 other people talking about Zang as suspicious before you switched your vote and you had not stated suspicion before you vote.DRK wrote:Stupid amnesia! I don't remember saying this anywhere (no, seriously, what?)
I still call you hypocritical scum. I don't want to hear DTM that some QT talks makes DRK auto-town. It's not something I can see or others. If you can specify what without a role reveal it would be nice. I expect with your comments that's not possible, but don't you think scum can fake being nice or fake a claim if necessary in a QT? The proof of DRK is how he plays the game completely.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I said in one post you were following votes.DeathRowKitty wrote:I'm sorry, but your grammar is killing me and I can honestly say I have no idea what you're talking about. Just quote where I supposedly admitted my votes were following.
You argued that you didn't believe that 2 votes on Zang was following, but didn't deny you were not following the others I mentioned.
I'm also pointing out there was discussion going on about Zang when you did cast your vote, which is what you are saying I did.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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No you didn't. That's why I said next to rephrase my comment was: You didn't dismiss my allegation.DeathRowKitty wrote:Oh, this post? If so, that explains why I don't remember saying my votes were following (because I didn't...)
Your still hypocritical scum.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.