In the Court of the Gods (Game Over)

[DrippingGoofball]

Dibs on the Olympus. We have hammers, ambrosia, lightning, and there's nothing we love better than to impregnate mortals. Watch out! We like to hide in the bushes, but we warn you, to make it more of a sport.

***ALSO***

My followers should each have a QT, in case of replacement and such, as well as post-game lulz.

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I hereby entreat the God of Time to give us the longest possible deadlines. Short deadlines tend to favor heathens, in my experience.

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Zoraster very explicitly said that the mortal scum have been distributed randomly

randomly =/= evenly

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Or we can ignore these probabilities, and lynch scum wherever we find them.

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Andrius, I believe it is GODDESS.

With 2 D's.

Please leave bra sizes out of this.

In other news, LLD is my first town read.

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In other words, we're scum hunting as usual.

Jack is going to need to die.

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NO.

1. LONG deadline.

I INSIST ON THIS

. Long deadlines favor TOWN.
2. I'm going to have to piss away that double-vote on Day 1 when it counts the least, I can only grant it every 4 days.
3. Yes, yes and yes.

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Somewhat related to what, exactly?

Thinking about the powers of my fellow Gods, I think we should be controlling DGB. I do not want scum getting immunity from anything.

NO. My towndar is near-infallible

as everyone knows

, and I only trust myself. I do not submit to possible scum voting blocks. Furthermore, it's the only useful power I may grant, and I can only grant it every 4 days. So, no.

I'd be happy to turn over my power as well if necessary (seems only fair).

You, in fact, are even more useless than me, if you are town. There is no reason for you to shorten the deadlines unless you are scum. And if you are scum, you might as well claim scum, stick us with impossible deadlines, and laugh as you watch us scramble to lynch townie after townie. The second you shorten a deadline, we'll KNOW you're scum, it's as good as claiming it. So you might as well have fun, unless of course you want to keep the element of surprise; but that will only work on Day 1. After a Day 1 surprise, you'd be confirmed scum.

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I don't understand why you are making a big deal out of it. I can't even prevent a NK on a townie because the "protect" is a public one, so the scum can mow down some other townie. How could it hurt the town if I use it unilaterally? Even the worse possible scenario that I PUBLICLY protect a scumbag... from a NK... every 4 nights.

Why don't you look for scum instead, this is IIoA.

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I have a town read on LadyL.

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I think farside is town.

As for MeWeird, I currently have no evidence either way. But I'm pretty sure I will soon be able to tell whether if he's town some way or another.

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Although it was pregame chat I didn't like Me=Weird's vote on LL when 2 other people where doing the same thing and he doesn't acknowledge it. I see it as someone looking for an excuse to vote for that person when it looks to be a BW forming.

True, but nearly everyone knows that the first wagon right out of the RVS is almost never the lynch of the day. It's possible that MeWeird doesn't realize that, but normally this sort of action would mean more later in the game, when a wagon could actually lead to a lynch, than it did when MeWeird did it... early in the game, and early on the wagon itself.

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...Sooo is figuring out NS is the scum lord (when he is) actually worth it?

I have theories that are best kept to myself.

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HEY WAIT

Shouldn't the scumgod know his mortal scumpals' identity? Does that change anything?

How could Jack trick NS to 'fess scum??? Unless NS was very careless and not paying attention?

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According to what NS has told me, Jack responded with a two word claim of his role, but nothing else.

Why would he claim his role to NS right away??????????????????

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Let's see.

NS: Hullow Jack, enjoy this PM.

Jack: I'm scum

OPTION 1:

NS: You're lying, you're not listed in my scum role PM.

OPTION 2:

NS: Great, we'll lynch you today.

OPTION 3:

NS: Me too! And my brain leaks out of my ears at night! Does yours?

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I think brokenscraps is scum.

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I think brokenscraps is scum.

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Brokenscraps seems to be very busy site-wide... but as far as this game is concerned, he's probably spending all his energy discussing strategy in the scum QT. Clearly, he's taking his LURKING ORDERS very seriously.

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Has anyone caught a glimpse of:

Feysal
Benmage

They are making themselves scarce.

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Pretty much the only thing we can do today is lynch Jack. I don't see anyway to move forward without resolving this glaring inconsistency and since we can't lynch NS we pretty much have to lynch Jack. Besides that, the way I'm seeing the situation, it's a lot more likely that Jack is the one lying, I can see motivation and a means for that at least where I can't with NS.

What's the lie, exactly? And the motivation? Be specific.

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scum:

Jack
brokenscraps
Feysal
Benmage

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K, Feysal is town.

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Zang is scum.

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Is it just me or is DGBs skill decreasing?

If anything, my power of making lurkers ooze out of the woodwork seems to be increasing exponentially.

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I've seen jackscum do a gambit before. And what's the evidence that it's a town gambit?

Show me the money.

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I see a lot of excuses being made for Jack. They may be justified, I don't know. He's going to be vig'ed, watched, investigated, and laser-pumpkined by just about every PR tonight, but the scum will leave him alive, because he's one of their own, or so easily lynchable.

No good is coming out of this.

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DGB is lurking more

Sorry, been down with stomach flu, the roof and the basement were leaking. I slept for 48 hours and haven't eaten in as many.

She also called me town based on very little.

You're an easy read When I saw that first post of yours, I thought that you seemed eager to participate, and drew attention to yourself at the same time, in a way that would have been counterproductive for you if you were scum.

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In other news, I'm pretty sure tajo is scum based on some communications in the QT.

Tajo's first post in the QT was as "tajo."

The second post was as "Anonscum" - tajo's alt is Anon.

I think he forgot to change the login after posting in the scum QT.

VOTE: populartajo

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I think that NS is the Evil God right now. The attitude of "I'd OMGUS Jack but he's no danger" is just horrible.

As for people we can actually lynch, I'm not really feeling any of the scumreads going around right now.

VOTE: Andrius

Many posts, little content. His way of pushing the Jack wagon - with the odd post against him - is much scummier than tmh's. tmh seems to believe a lot more in the wagon.

Andrius is town. I will vouch for this until he makes a mistkae.

Also, Benmage is town.

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Anon isn't playing any games right now. So, no.

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Trust me, I considered many possibilities before coming to that conclusion.

In his message, he simply asked me if *I* could possibly be scum. These two things together are pretty damning.

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lol

the first post was from my work where quicktopic hasnt saved my login name.

the second post was from my house were quicktopic has saved my login name, which is anonscum.

when i made that question (wait, you can be scum, right?) i was still reading the setup, i assumed wrongly you were town and we were even about to start interchanging ideas about how to play the game.

thats it basically.

I dunno, everytime I turn off my browser, I have to fill in the login name, which is remembered... until the next session only.

Do we have volunteers to make the experiment?

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lol

the first post was from my work where quicktopic hasnt saved my login name.

the second post was from my house were quicktopic has saved my login name, which is anonscum.

when i made that question (wait, you can be scum, right?) i was still reading the setup, i assumed wrongly you were town and we were even about to start interchanging ideas about how to play the game.

thats it basically.

I dunno, everytime I turn off my browser, I have to fill in the login name, which is remembered... until the next session only.

Do we have volunteers to make the experiment?

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And you know, it wouldn't make sense to have a tajo login at work, and an AnonSCUM login at home.

I don't believe it.

I'd love to believe it, because the last thing I want is to thin out my own mason group. But I don't.

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Equinox is town, folks.

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CURRENT OFFERINGS AT THE ALTAR

DELICIOUS FRESH FRUIT

hitogoroshi
farside22

WINEGRAPES

Andrius
Lady Lambdadelta
Mina
Equinox
DeathRowKitty

PRUNES

themanhimself
Benmage
Feysal

OVER RIPE & MOLDY

Jack
me=weird
SpyreX

WORMY APPLES SERVED BY A TALKING SNAKE

populartajo/brokenscraps
Zang

[DrippingGoofball]

BP... Blood Pressure? British Petroleum? Brad Pitt? Black Power? Bipolar Disorder? Boston Pizza?

I'll grant what I want, when I want. Suggestions are NOT welcome.

Where's the fruit????? You know I demand fruit, and you come empty handed. Curses be upon you!

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I LIKE FRUIT

What am I going to do with a unicorn? Can they haul fruit out of the temples' back doors up Mount Olympus?

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I LIKE FRUIT

What am I going to do with a unicorn? Can they haul fruit out of the temples' back doors up Mount Olympus?

The unicorn was for sacrifice.

DIGUSTING!!! May you be caught in a rainstorm of arrows without an umbrella, foolish mortal. Take sail now and bring me a pineapple if you want to diminish my anger.

In other news, Zang needs to hang.

VOTE: Zang

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Benmage's rep is entering a nosedive.

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My followers need to check their QTs.

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im actually in this game

post in 2.5 hours, peruvian time

I didn't realize time flowed slower in Peru. Should we expect this in 3 days then?

Nominated for Zinger of the Game.

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Mod's note: This post was exactly the same as below without color tags.

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scum

farside
DRK
Spyrex
Feysal

VOTE: DRK.

Im pretty sure on this, lets lynch him.

in regard to gods, NS is being stupid but feels townish, Fishy is kinda neutral, DGB would be my pick for scumgod.

Farside scum???

Going after DRK?????

And I'm getting a increasing SpyreX town vibe, and Feysal has got to be neutral at best.

NS is townish? I bet Fishy is your scumgod, that's why you have him at neutral. And I'm scum over what ought to be a town tell?

DIE

VOTE: populartajo

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Yeah but Andrius is town. He's not today's lynch.

And tajo is scum.

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Why is Andrius town in your view?

He is town. I vouch for this.

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Jack, you are scum, or you are dense. Pick one. Which is it?

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Tajo, I suspect you are bus'ing DRK.

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Explain CLEARLY why farside is town

I can read farside like a book.

why DRK is townp

You're both scum.

and why Spyrex is town.

We share a QT.

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Also. May I remind you that

we

share a QT where you are rather non-participating at all, except to say that you "suspect me?" No one else in the mason group is as cagey as you are.

So I think you're scum. And the fact that I'm willing to go after someone in my own mason group should tell you a thing or two about how fired up I am about this.

And I recall Convict's Revenge where I pegged you as scum from the get go, and you were. I can read you like a book, just like farside.

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I don't see where it assume that Jack is town. Read carefully, scumbag.

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except i was really obvscum in that game

Were you so obv? I don't remember anybody else reading you like I did. And it's WIFOM, but it's not meta I'm looking at.

be sincere, if you were me and had a scum read in your god, would you go that QT and talk freely with him/her? EVen if you didnt have a red on him/her, would you go and plan how to play the game?

That's a complete cop out, scum. Your second post in the QT is "wait you can be scum, y/n?" - and then you clam up.

oh lawd, now im bussing DRK, vote him then.

No, I want

YOU

dead. I like to go for the big fish first.

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dgb, wtf are you doing in the qt?

I'm testing you, scum, like I tested everyone else, and you FAIL.

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answer the question. Would you go on and blindly trust someone that can be scum?

I'm not going to get into a meta argument with you.

But who is asking for blind trust? Not me. However, there is a difference between being carefully guarded, and cagey.

You're cagey.

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I subscribe to the theory that Jack is a smart cookie, and doesn't do things aimlessly.
So why do this? Because he's scum and doing his thing. Namely: sowing discord and "oh no jack wouldn't do a thing like that because that would be dumb". Seriously. He's either A: scum B: retarded. And we know he isn't the latter. /allude to Greek Mythology and how we were supposed to be together so I think I would know if he were mental/postal ;D

Actually, I think Jack doesn't see much further than the length of his nose, and is very impulsive.

If tajo flips megascumbag like I expect him to, Fishy is the scumgod, not NS.

Because, psychology. Tajo puts the common wisdom upside down by saying NS is town. Which would give him towncred with NS, who is under some fire; he'd get NS on his side. Then, he declares me, who is totally awesome obv-town, scum, again, against the common wisdom, but would help the scum cause of spreading more suspicion more evenly.

And Tajo's scumgod is there in the middle, Fishy, who Tajo labels "neutral."

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YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

A tajo vote.

We need more.

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Another thing about tajo.

The fact that we share a QT gives him a conduit to try to figure out my alignment. He hasn't even tried.

His report of the QT is quite accurate. You can see for yourself tajo's contribution:

Tajo's post #1: Hi
Tajo's post #2: Hey you may be scum, bye.
Tajo's post #3: WTF rolefishing?

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On the other hand, the fact that I'm scumhunting in my own followers and posting "DIE SCUM DIE" to one of them is a painfully town tell, why a seasoned player like tajo would fail to see that doesn't bode well for him being town.

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On the other hand, DGB, can you explain to me as clearly and succinctly as possible, the exchange between you and Tajo? I know that's you've both posted about it, but I get the feeling that you were both exaggerating more than a little. Can I get the facts?

Tajo's report of the exchanges was quite accurate, I have no complaints. It's also not exaggerated at all, and quite complete. You can read it and make your own mind.

Also, can I get some opinions on a potential Fishy-scum scenario?

It's a given if tajo flips scum, I've explained why earlier.

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Another thing about tajo.
The fact that we share a QT gives him a conduit to try to figure out my alignment. He hasn't even tried.

Ive called you the most likely scum god posts ago, how isnt that trying to figure out your alignment????

That was a pre-conceived notion made to fit your scum agenda, and the opposite of the conclusion your SHOULD have drawn. That's NOT trying to figure out my alignment.

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when did I say that if I were a VT I wouldnt sacrifice myself for a PR?

You didn't say that. That's where you failed. No roles were uncovered in the exercise. If it was so "blatant" why do you even suppose anyone would have fallen for it?

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you know what is the towntell? that I AM at least considering an scenario where YOU could be town.

Where?

Where are these efforts?
Where are the questions?
Where are the strategy discussion?

I am a very demanding God. I need fruit. You give no fruit.

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I'm sorry. Are you trying to imply because his read on you was scum, that he didn't really read you?

No. I'm saying that it fits his scum agenda to declare me scum, suck up to NS-under-fire by calling him town, and declaring his scumgod Fishy "neutral."

So he looked at something early in the game that was actually a town-tell, called it a scum-tell (parroting Jack), and has totally ignored the gazillion town-tells I am dropping like manna from the sky without.

That's because he's scum. And he wants to spread the suspicion where there is none. And he can call NS town, because there is already a lot of suspicion on NS.

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im pretty sure NOT EVERYONE answered the way you posted.

Nope. All that were asked, did as paraphrased.

Im pretty sure at least one idiot claimed from the go that he was VT and that he would sacrifice himself for a PR.

Nope. There was no such idiot.

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it was blatant to me, its a shame some people dont have the brains to realize that and assume you are town in day 1 with no flips / almost zero wagons / etc. hint hint: Andrius.

And guess what? There are 3 of my followers I assume are town.

I assume you're scum and I'm probably right.

you see, the problem is that i dont understand what did you want to do with that question? test people? ok, lets assume you are town for a second, what valid answers do you think town could hae given? scum?

I told you in the QT, and you re-posted it here, what the correct gist of the answer I expected was.

I expected scum to completely avoid the prospect of

sacrificing

themselves.

Like you did.

"WTF rolefishing much?" and hang up the telephone.

You did not want to consider sacrificing yourself for the good of the

TOWN.

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ok lets assume there was an idiot, would this be some kind of rolefishing even if that wasnt your attention?

be as honest as possible.

Well if some idiot blurted out his role, I would totally have them chalked up as townie. And I'd give them the BP if need be. And I'd give them tips to avoid the NK. And it wouldn't matter you see, because I'm a town god.

But this player would have to be a TOTAL idiot, not just half-way. And such an idiot probably can't play mafia, he can only drool on keyboards.

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so you admit that an IDIOT would have given out his role as a vanilla townie making you (assuming you are town) an unintentional rolefisher.

thank you.

Nice try, but it's completely meaningless in this context.

All others were willing to give their lives for a PR.

You just want to live another day.

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I must admit, I had the same exact thoughts as tajo when DGB asked the question as DGB can confirm.

Confirmed.

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someone explain to me (specially these new voters) what is my scum motivation to get in a dog fight with someone who a)is influential as hell and b)cant even get lynched.

Cuz you want to spread suspicion... and reduce cooperation and communication in the masonry.

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Alpha Town Madness: hitogoroshi, Equinox

do you usually put yourself on your town lists?

DGB: Wait, so CMAR also thought you were rolefishing? I dont get what you are confirming.

We had a friendly exchange where CMAR eventually expressed his willingness to sacrifice himself for a power role,

should he be vanilla

. Which is all I wanted. He wouldn't say that as scum, because there might be a need for him sacrifice himself later,

and if he refused, he'd be a marked man

if you get my drift.

If CMAR were scum, he'd have to be stubbornly UNWILLING to express a even CONDITIONAL willing to self-sacrifice. LIKE YOU HAVE DONE.

Your reactions have been curt, short and hostile, by contrast.

Currently, you are not in the QT trying to patch things up or clarify anything, either. THAT ALSO IS TELLING ME THAT YOU ARE SCUM.

So with 4/5 of my masons giving off the fresh scent of townie, and you being the one stinking to high heaven, I want you dead.

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this isnt a freaking masonry are you blind? we dont have confirmations, we havent even lynched someone, we dont even have a decent wagon

god

OK It's a neighborhood and you're the scum neighbor.

And we will have a wagon, and a scum flip after we hang you.

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Follower 1 says: yeah DGB, I love you!!
Follower 2 says: mmmkay.
Follower 3 says: hey why are you asking this? you can also be scum.

Be as honest as possible, who is the most likely scum in this scenario?

No. That's not what it was.

Follower 1 says: "Yes, if I were vanilla, I would sacrifice myself, of course!"
Follower 2 says: "Yes, if I were vanilla, I would sacrifice myself, of course!"
Follower 3 says: "Yes, if I were vanilla, I would sacrifice myself, of course!"
Follower 4 says: "Yes, if I were vanilla, I would sacrifice myself, of course!"
Follower 5 says: "FfffFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF uUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU scum"

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answer the question

The most likely scum is you - by a landslide.

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Mod note: duplicate post (sans coloring) deleted

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Because TMH is scum and needs to <die the death> Andrius.

Don't worry, there is a lot of clamoring for the death of TMH in the Fruit God's temple. He will get his comeuppance.

Look at tajo's list:

town

Andrius
CryMeARiver
Equinox
Mina
themanhimself >>>>>>>>>>>SCUM
Jack
Lady Lambdadelta

All his townies are townies, except TMH. How 'bout that. We have to kill TMH, after tajo flips scum.

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@DGB: what makes you believe that if tajo flips scum that automatically puts fishy as the scum God?

Tajo made the following evaluations of the gods, which fit scum strategic reasons:

-

NS

, who was widely considered scumgod and

needed friends

:

town

-

DGB

, who was not widely suspected, and there

needed more suspicion

:

scum

-

FF

: who was not widely suspected, but who

didn't need attention drawn to him either way

:

neutral

In my own evaluation, tajo parroted an illogical conclusion from Jack: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p2766222 - in fact, Jack should have deduced that I'm town for trying to downplay suspicion on a competing god, not that I'm scum. But it's Jack, so... what do you expect.

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You don't need to grill him about claiming. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, maybe someone else did, maybe he's just saying he did, you'll never know.

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finally someone with a brain

And if you had one, you have realized a million years ago that I'm town - and since I know you do have a brain, I have to conclude that you are purposely obtuse because you're scum and you have to pretend you think I'm scum to satisfy your wincon.

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Tajo is in cahoots with DRK. Why else would they have the same krap reads?

Fishy, town god, on what basis? The non-communicating in the QTs? The firm stances?

Farside, scum? That read is sooooooo wrong... or it`s just suspicion to place an un-lynchable player within lynching reach in future days.

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If this is an actual daykill, DTMaster will not live to see twilight.

AND we still need to lynch tajo really bad. In the QT, he's repeating that he's playing to his "aggressive town meta" and NOT his sneakier scum meta. Sounds like the perfect WIFOM.

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K, fake daykill.

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Priests should have QT Temples to make offerings to their gods. Why? It's good for replacements to know what went on in the past, and hey don't have access to PMs.

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DGB just doesn't seem like the type of player who could pull off such a charade to me.

You're attacking DGB based on a single point, and there is quite enough evidence of her being town.

DGBtown should realize how these scumbags are trying to buddy up with her.

Feysal? Do I care about Feysal? He's on my neutral list: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p2774117

Who is the second scumbag? Andrius? Andrius is town and there cannot be two opinions on the matter.

Tajo you are so scum. You sooooooooo need to die. But I see your buddies are more willing to keep you alive, than DRK.

All your scum reads are on townies, except for your bus'ing victim, DRK.

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DIE SCUM

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Because scum usually place themselves on their own list, town tends not to.

I always put myself in my own list.

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tell me where we are in disagreement, DGB, I dont think Im that far from the truth.

town

Andrius
CryMeARiver >>>>

Meh. Neutral

Equinox
Mina >>>>

Meh. Neutral

themanhimself >>>>

REALLY??????????? Town? Not NEUTRAL?

Jack >>>>

TOO SUBDUED RECENTLY. NOT LOOKING GOOD

Lady Lambdadelta

neutral (lynch when scum list is done)

Zang
farside22 >>>>

TOTALLY TOWN HEAD TO TOE FERGIT IT

Feysal

Benmage

scum

Feysal NEW >>>>

Too early to tell

hitogoroshi >>>>

TOTALLY WRONG

GET THAT OUTTA YER HEAD

SpyreX >>>>

Doubtful, needs more data

DeathRowKitty >>>>

Sure, is being bus'ed by you

Except for the player you're bus'ing, tajo, your scum reads are especially bad. And you've got me as scum. Major flaw.

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i dont like the above post

Actually I like it very much, and I like very much the message he left in the QT. I'm a very fruity and charismatic god and my followers are very close knit, except the scummy one.

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I counted 3 as of a couple of days ago.

tajo, you're wasting my time. It's getting tiresome. You're scum.

So what if I don't have a read on Feysal, and I'm still watching SpyreX? I'll take whatever time I need.

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Your SCUM reads are terrible. REALLY, REALLY terriebl

That's the category where you push people to be lynched. The scum reads.

The townie & neutral categories aren't super-relevant.

What matters is that your scum list sucks eggs, except for DRK, whose head is under a Greyhound tire.

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So what?????? Who cares.

Your scum reads are in the toilet.

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Yo DGB you mind if I votehop to DRK?

Go ahead, though I might shed tears all over those beautiful mangoes and ruin them.

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CMAR's player slot is now officially townie. And it's funny that the mod just ninja'd me with the replacement announcement!

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CMAR's player slot is now officially townie. And it's funny that the mod just ninja'd me with the replacement announcement!

I reserve the right to judge that for myself when the player actually makes a worthwhile post.

Indeed you should. In the QT, after the message where he told me he'd ask for replacement, he came back, and he posted some last thoughts. That shows me that in brain was in a scum hunting frame of mind and he actually regretted asking for replacement.

[DrippingGoofball]

No. farside is town.

Do you have insights into your Loyal Followers that you'd like to share with the rest of us?

[DrippingGoofball]

Not yet. We're still working on it....

Hurry up

Same for Fishy. I want your thoughts on your followers, too.

[DrippingGoofball]

The Mina I've grown to adore overthinks everything. I think that's why I like her. The massive overthinking. It pleases me as much as fruit.

Overthinking isn't a scum tell. It's a Mina tell.

[DrippingGoofball]

DTMaster is town! Thank gawd.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, tajo needs to report to the QT.

[DrippingGoofball]

why do you say that DGB?

The only thing i get from DTMaster is his slightly abnormal obsession with Fishy being scum God and shortening deadlines.

C

That's because DTMaster's judgment of the game shows evolution from post to post, and the changing of his mind as he sees evidence. That is not compatible with having a certain agenda as scum, he weaseling one's way to stick to it.

DTMaster is diabolically clever, though. I'm keeping my eyes opened, but for now he's town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Looks like drk is in his death throes.

But is it scum death throws, or town death throws? I'm still looking for signs.

Hito could be scum too.

No.

I agree with dtm that fishy could be the scum god.

So far, you think all three of us are scum. Make up your mind.

[DrippingGoofball]

OH MY GOD DGB, SO FAR YOU THINK FEYSAL IS BOTH SCUM AND TOWN WHAT KIND OF CRAZY ROLE IS THAT

Mind changed, update forgotten.

Answer my question.

[DrippingGoofball]

post tomorrow

Hey I saw you posting lolcats on /b/, lurker!

[DrippingGoofball]

If I were scum and I had fishy's powers (you are immortal, you safe from all kills and lynches,) I would claim scum and shorten the deadline. Then I would cause chaos by contributing to wagons, I would make people paranoid by hammering my scum buddies if necessary and I would be Socratic. I would play the town with my votes, and making my votes unreadable on which wagons are scum or town, and making people be paranoid about my hammers.

That's how I'd play it, too, I mentioned that early in the the game.

But then I reconsidered, because as long as Fishy feels he can harvest information from his followers and is making progress, he is motivated to maintain the charade that he is town.

In other words, Fishy's followers should look very devoted and on the bring of claiming in the next QT post, haha. If I were vanilla I sure would fakeclaim something grand to draw the scum NK just in case Fishy is scum, hahahahaha. But that's me. DrippingGambits.[/color][/b]

[DrippingGoofball]

Another thing.

If Fishy made himself obv-scum, the other two gods would be confirmed townies.

And claims, trust, unicorns and rainbow would flood the townie's QTs.

Much to the dismay of the deadline Nazi.

[DrippingGoofball]

I want DTMaster to receive NK immunity.

I love you kid, but it's my decision. Your suggestion is respectfully considered in the making of this decision.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hito: Tajo-town always has a high statistical chance of catching DGB-scum. Somewhat verifiable fact. DGB is immortal so things are slightly different but DGB is kind of acting like scum in response to Tajo.

Yo

If you want to talk

statistics

, you have to show several points of data. Don't make claims that you cannot support.

As an

anecdote

, I can show you a recent game where I caught tajo as scum - check Convict's Revenge in Theme Park.

[DrippingGoofball]

@ NS

Is the granting of the perma-bulletproof your idea/approval? You can speak to me heart to heart. We are both immortals.

[DrippingGoofball]

(To the ladies and gentlemen in the audience, I submit that "very little" is relative as well as subjective.)

@DGB: I had nothing to do with it. I'm only an Immortal Messenger. Additionally, I don't believe I have the power to 'approve' anything of the sort.

OK. But you transmitted such a message for DRK to post in-thread, right?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB: Yes, the message that DRK posted came through me.

I'm not going to say it out loud, but I want you guys to know

I TOTALLY KNOW what's happening

.

Carry on. I'm entertained. And I have a sudden craving for fresh peaches.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd like to point out to the vig out there that tajo is still scum, is not BP and will not receive doc protection if my voodoo doll is working. Also, Jack is scum hunting no moar, so he's probably a clear shot as well.

VOTE: Feysal

[DrippingGoofball]

DTMaster

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: DTMaster

[DrippingGoofball]

GUESS WHY

[DrippingGoofball]

And then I realize that I didn't see DrippingGoofball jump to DTMaster.

Can YOU guess why?

[DrippingGoofball]

What DTMaster said was unwise, but it makes sense.

NO, THINK.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, people dont usually think, so Id like you to explain the case CONCISELY against DTM so we dont waste time and can get a wagon now.

I want to discuss this with followers first, there are two explanations for DTM's actions. (1) town, (2) scum. If the conclusion is DTM is town (I am not currently leaning in that direction, see, vote), then I don't want to open my big mouth. If the conclusion is DTM scum, then I will push.

I reckon we might be running out of time.

[DrippingGoofball]

tajo, if you have thoughts to share on this, now is the time. The QT is always open.

[DrippingGoofball]

Gawd... LLD is sooooooooooooooo town. My eyes hurt.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm going to put this out there.

Who claims BP in-thread except a scum who needs to explain why they're not getting NK when they should be target numero uno?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm going to put this out there.

Who claims BP in-thread except a scum who needs to explain why they're not getting NK when they should be target numero uno?

He did?

First someone (DRK or NS, too lazy to check, but DRK I think) said that some permanent BP had been given to a specific player.

OK I look it up 4 U....

Forgot to mention...someone in NS's priesthood has ensured that another player is permanently bulletproof for the rest of the game so long as this player is alive, but would like to remain unclaimed for the time being.

Ask Andrius, I had kittens over this in the QT - because I don't believe for a second that the power to grant BP is a role... since I grant BP once per 4 days and I'm a GOD

***fruit-flavored thunder***

. So I tell Andrius, what kinda friggin gambit is this? Who is going to believe that nonsense? Is this a scum gambit or a town gambit. I suggest that DTMaster is behind this and sure enough... DTMaster posts within minutes of my QT rant.

Due to some QT relays I am leaning towards DRK town. Same conditions apply to Jack. As well LLD is behaving normally relayed via NS. I am awaiting for Benmage.

Le shock! Right? I'm going to maintain my Feysal push. I'm on my phone but expect details soon.

I eventually settle on TOWN gambit... until... until...[/color][/b]

Also DGB do not give me BP ;>. I appreciate Equinox's concern but I don't need it. hint hint hint!

DTMaster claim having received the "gift or BP" - oh wait a minute... why would you ANNOUNCE THIS IN-THREAD if you're town????????? It's not like the SCUM is going to BUY this totally unbelievable story anyway, right?

DTMaster needs an explanation for his continued survival.

That's how he earned my divine vote.

[DrippingGoofball]

I want scum to try and kill me.

If NK'ing you would be good for town, why are you announcing it in this way?

[DrippingGoofball]

Noose time is here!

VOTE: Feysal

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd like to nominate this gambit for

Least Thought Through Gambit

, I think my previous record has been beaten.

FRUIT PLEASE

[DrippingGoofball]

-What happened that made DGB think DTM was fakeclaiming BP.

What role gives away a perma-BP??? Right there my spidey sense was tingling.

Also, my unusual role in this very game where I give a player BP for one night. It looked like DTM was looking for an explanation for not being NK'd night after night. Hider works too. It could explain his prolonged survival at night.

Anyway, I already explained this in more detail in an earlier post, you should read it.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Corvuus

[DrippingGoofball]

I feel good about andrius--hito--benmage, with dgb as scum god.

Good job, at least 75% of your scum list are townies. I can't vouch for benmage.

[DrippingGoofball]

The Fruit Goddess sends farside much love for the post above.

It's claim time for Feysal, and I stand ready to hammer him with a pineapple if he fails to appease me.

[DrippingGoofball]

I want to give you the BP, farside. I'm serious. I think I will.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm liking Corvuus' #1126. Very much.

UNVOTE: Corvuus

We need a claim, and I need to grant the BP to someone before any hammer.

[DrippingGoofball]

COLOR EBWOP

I'm liking Corvuus' #1126. Very much.

UNVOTE: Corvuus

We need a claim, and I need to grant the BP to someone before any hammer.

[DrippingGoofball]

For strategic reasons.

VOTE: Feysal

[DrippingGoofball]

...the guy just made an argument for Equinox-scum based on a fucked up timeline of events. I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Strangely enough... that means he's scum hunting independently, even though I completely and fully disagree with his conclusion that you're scum. If Corvuus were scum, he wouldn't bother drawing attention to himself by going against the majority, he'd wait for night when you'd be summarily taken care of with a NK.

It's not an absolute town tell, but it's a partially good one. Alternatively, he could be scum spreading suspicion - but for that, there would have to be hope of it working, and against you, it doesn't.

[DrippingGoofball]

Do you know what a hider is? I hide behind people. If they are scum

I die

. I am not targetable since hide resolves before most actions int he natural order resolution. In a sense

I'm claiming weak cop

. You know, the guarenteed sane cop? (Barring GFs and such).

What's that? You're claiming scum? I just want to be sure.

[DrippingGoofball]

Because that's also a role that might explain your continued existence every morning.

[DrippingGoofball]

I GRANT Equinox the REWARD OF Immunity

[DrippingGoofball]

Following DGB's plan to the letter right now:

I'll be curious to learn what this is about.

Tomorrow you will know.

[DrippingGoofball]

Jack, NS, Mina

: COMMIT TO WAGON NAO.

I'm very worried about these players shirking their responsibility to wagon, especially... ALL of them three equally, actually.

Feysal and DRK are within lynching range.

Also, if anyone would like to make an offering, apricot jam would be nice.

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't know, should I hammer DeathRowKitty? I hate hammering people. And I still wanted to make a couple of posts before night, because I've horribly neglected this game.

Grow some.














Fruit.

[DrippingGoofball]

You may want to wait for Jack.

Jack has no fruit right now.

Aside from you - he's the only one wimping out of the wagons.

[DrippingGoofball]

FTR, we're counting you in as a DRK voter, even if it's not official.

You can shy from the hammer, but you can't escape your destiny.

[DrippingGoofball]

Well, before the thread closes, I forgot to ask you. Why do you have town reads on Spy and Andrius again? You never answered me before.

Mostly gut. Though sometimes SpyreX speaks in mysterious ways.

[DrippingGoofball]

In the QT, SpyreX seemed to be very eager for a Feysal lynch after DRK's town flip.

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh, and the scumputer shows two scums in this group:

populartajo, Benmage, Corvuus, nopointinactingup, Jack

We're not lynching outside of these 5 today.

I have mild town read on nopoint. So he doesn't get priority.

populartajo, Benmage, Corvuus, Jack

- ~50% scum here - that's where we're rolling the bowling ball.

[DrippingGoofball]

did dgb tell you that? because we have talking in the QT snce we stopped that fight here.

HERE'S THE TRUTH

Not a whole lot of communication beyond the fulfillment of what feels like a chore, phoning it in, and going through the motions.

Nothing

from you all this lonely fruitless night phase. Too busy with your scumbuddies?

In out QT see some vague suspicion of DRK-town, and Feysal prob-town. SpyreX was also pushing on Feysal prob-town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Mina ended her day yesterday without an actual vote, but she committed herself to the DRK wagon.

If she, as scum, knew this was a townie wagon, and it looked at the time like it was much more of a sure thing than Feysal, she would have committed herself to the Feysal wagon, because it would have delayed the revelation of her having hammered/voted for a known townie.

It's not impossible that Mina is scum, but not likely.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm reading the SpyreX QT. He really wanted to me go after CMAR/nopoint, he was very insistent. He wanted me to push that.

He was also defending

Jack

in such an emphatic way that left no room for error, I think Jack my be town for it. SpyreX defended

tajo

in a more oblique way, with excuses, here is an example:

"His scumlist is junk

but 440 has that ring to it that

almost

flipped him all the way to the most town town."

-emphasis mine.

I'm having a real tough time convincing you guys, a lot of you are screaming "town read!" on tajo, but I swear he's scum.

Also, tajo hasn't claimed, when all of my followers have claimed. SpyreX didn't claim either, but he's dead and he was scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Eliminating Jack:

populartajo, Benmage, Corvuus

- ~50% scum here

Now we're talking.

[DrippingGoofball]

Spyrex also wrote the following, in-thread:

DGB is town. Tajo MAY be scum. I don't think its a slam dunk and I'm having words with my unicorn princess about this.

But then in the QT he was DEFENDING tajo.

[DrippingGoofball]

Continuing to read the QT, SpyreX was also trying to whip me up to go after Mina.

[DrippingGoofball]

DrippingGoofball, did SpyreX change his stance at any point?

zoraster's role PM states that the traitor doesn't know who the scum are, but his wording suggests that there may have been opportunities for him to get into contact with the scum later.

Mmmmmmmmm

I hadn't thought of the traitor angle, I thought his mafia partners wouldn't know HIM, but he would know his partners. I hadn't pushed the spoiler tag button in the mod scene. I did now.

That nullifies my analysis to a significant extent.

It means that SpyreX was in the unenviable position of having to go after players on whom he had a town read, and protect players on whom he had a scum read, hoping for the rest.

So he probably THOUGHT that Jack and tajo were scum. But he didn't KNOW. So his guess is as good as mine.

[DrippingGoofball]

Probably SpyreX would have joined the scumteam if he was their NK - which he would have survived. That's how contact is normally established with a traitor.

[DrippingGoofball]

WAIT GUIZ

If SpyreX didn't know his buddies, that means DTMaster is 100% scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

My thought was if the cop had a clue someone scum would show up innocent (probably thought it would be a GF) the scum team may have known there was a traitor.

My guess is that the scumteam knew there was a traitor.

They might have sent out feelers.

Maybe Jack's scum claim. Maybe. There must be others.

[DrippingGoofball]

If the stars align and its death time early, don't pish posh it.

SpyreX seems to be saying that if he's targeted for death, it's no big deal... that's a hint. There must be responses.

[DrippingGoofball]

If I wasn't Immortal, I'd be voting jack. As it is, he's hardly worth it. At the moment.

Ohh riddlemaster give me a sign on how this works.

Asking for a sign from the riddlemaster...

[DrippingGoofball]

But the riddlemaster fails to pick up the clue, and shows no sign. NS totally doesn't pick up a thing, despite repeated badgering by SpyreX.

SpyreX's defense of Jack may be been because SpyreX thought Jack was his buddy, and wanted to signal back to Jack that he caught on.

=======================
Moar messages?

After careful deliberation, Tajo is NOT scum.

It just doesn't mesh right. This is indignant town.

Now, maybe, we can pull together and get rid of the Hope Diamond slot that curses all who touch it (because it is scum).

AND PARRTTTYY HARD

Who was DTMaster supposed to target?

[DrippingGoofball]

Hello scum! The fact that you have to mention the below totally gives you away.

Please note: as LLD pointed out that since roleblocks supersede misc.1 actions (e.g. probably Hide) that Nopoint isn't clear sadly :<.

Hey. SpyreX didn't know who he was crumbing to. But he crumbed to NS, hoping that Jack had crumbed that NS is scum. Maybe that's why he tried so hard to connect to NS. You can see it. But NS is totally oblivious, to his credit.

[DrippingGoofball]

Jack returns to the suspect list:

populartajo, Benmage, Corvuus, Jack

- ~50% scum here

Also,

DTMaster

...for admitting to being fakeclaiming scum by bracing it with a warming that be might have been roleblocked, unprompted by anyone.

[DrippingGoofball]

I take back the "unprompted by anyone."

[DrippingGoofball]

I just iso'd Benmage, he's really lurky and tentative.

Jack may have been sending the traitor a message. He belongs in the list. Sorry.

[DrippingGoofball]

CURRENT OFFERINGS AT THE ALTAR

DELICIOUS FRESH FRUIT

hitogoroshi
farside22
Equinox
Andrius

WINEGRAPES

Mina
me=weird/CMAR/nopoint

DEAD Lady Lambdadelta

DEAD DeathRowKitty

PRUNES

Feysal
Zang/DTMaster

OVER RIPE & MOLDY

themanhimself/Corvuus

DEAD SpyreX

WORMY APPLES SERVED BY A TALKING SNAKE

Jack
Benmage
populartajo/brokenscraps

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Benmage

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey DTM

Would you investigate tajo, or is that too risky?

[DrippingGoofball]

Might as well explain what that was about. I've been referring to an ongoing game, which ended on Sunday, so now I can talk about it. The game was Consulmaker II: the Pyrrhic War, with Jack and SpyreX as two of the scum. In that game, Jack started with a gambit where he claimed the Consulmaker role. He was promptly counterclaimed, proven to have lied, and eventually executed. I still don't understand why he did it. After seeing that, I have to say that gambitting is a null tell from Jack.

If Jack was scum, why do you call it a null tell, instead of a scum tell?

[DrippingGoofball]

It's also possible (sadly) that Spyrex would use the scum read/town read idea to defend what he would normally call his scum reads and support the lynches of his normal town reads.

That's my working hypothesis, exactly.

Which would mean that SpyreX had a scum read on tajo and Jack.

[DrippingGoofball]

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I might give a double vote to whomever wants to hammer.

VOTE: Tajo

[DrippingGoofball]

i think dtm is too hperactive for a gambitting scum so i dont get the dgb hate.

It's the hider claim. But this can all be settled in the dead of night. DTM is not the lynch for today.

Jack is scum, who was traitor-communicating.

Tajo's behavior in the QT does not inspire confidence.

Benmage is town. Like, totally town. Hito is town, too.

[DrippingGoofball]

CURRENT OFFERINGS AT THE ALTAR - Benmage is moving up.

DELICIOUS FRESH FRUIT

hitogoroshi
farside22
Equinox
Andrius
Benmage

WINEGRAPES

Mina
me=weird/CMAR/nopoint

DEAD Lady Lambdadelta

DEAD DeathRowKitty

PRUNES

Feysal
Zang/DTMaster

OVER RIPE & MOLDY

themanhimself/Corvuus

DEAD SpyreX

WORMY APPLES SERVED BY A TALKING SNAKE

Jack
populartajo/brokenscraps

[DrippingGoofball]

DRK

lynch:

populartajo, Benmage,

Fishythefish

, Feysal, Corvuus, nopointinactingup, Equinox,

Lady Lambdadelta

, farside22, #MINA#, Jack

Feysal competitor:

DTMaster,

SpyreX

, hitogoroshi,

DeathRowKitty

,

DrippingGoofball

, Andrius,

Nobody Special

Hito and Andrius are town. That leaves a suspicious DTMaster on the Feysal wagon.

===============================

If DTMaster is town, which we should know soon enough, there would be no scum on the Feysal wagon. No scum on the Feysal wagon doesn't look good for Feysal, but then again, it's not impossible that there would be two townie wagons, and I'd expect the scum to make a late move.

This would implicate Jack.

[DrippingGoofball]

Jack you should switch to Hito too, Andrius won't be getting lynched today.

How many times must I repeat this?

Hito is not scum. Hito is not getting lynched.

[DrippingGoofball]

Lol wat? Benmage self votes ( purpose: to drive people under the connotation that he is town ) and people are calling him town left and right??

Unvote.Vote:Benmage

Erm, no.

Benmage is not getting lynched. He's town. We're not lynching townies.

[DrippingGoofball]

My lynch pool: hitogoroshi, Jack, nopointinactingup, populartajo

I wholehearted agree on Jack and tajo, and a little less on nopoint. I also agree that the Temple of Time is full of townie goodness, and off-limits.

Let's do it.

Jack or tajo.

No abstainers.

I'll vote for either equally. Heck, Jack was traitor-fishing in plain sight - and SpyreX TOTALLY caught on the message. Come to think of it, I'm even more sure of Jack being scum, than tajo.

VOTE: Jack

[DrippingGoofball]

If hito nopoint and andrius are all scum then 4/5 of dgb's group was scum, hilarious.

Oh geez, and I even missed that gem.

DIE SCUM DIE

[DrippingGoofball]

I dont see Jack scum. Seriously.

You're not expected to, Jack is your buddy.

There are things you could say in the QT to convince me that you're town. But you're not trying. You can still try. The QT is always open.

[DrippingGoofball]

The right posts could convince me. and you'd make the effort if you were town.

I iso'd you and sure looks like you engineered a townie lynch yesterday.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB: I'm still not getting the hito town assessment you have.

Trust me on that one.

[DrippingGoofball]

Regarding DGB, I still dont get what good thing we can get from trying to get reads on players that WONT never flip. Ive realized its useless, as well as trying to talk with someone that constantly attacks you of being scum in the QT.

It's less convincing if I point it out myself, rather than someone else, or you realizing it yourself, but the fact that I tell you in the QT that I think you're scum, instead of buttering you up in the hope of getting information, should be a dead giveaway that I'm town.

You fail to grasp this; it's not a point in your favor, and reinforces my scum read on you.

[DrippingGoofball]

Awesome, Jack is at L-3.

[DrippingGoofball]

I dislike Jack in his recent discussions with Equi. Equi's got a fair point on Jack's comments on DTM/BM - that Jack looks like scum who saw a convenient side of the argument and jumped on it. Jack is trying to dismiss that with non-arguments; he said it didn't happen, then he said it was facetious. This evasion is scummy.

FoS: Jack

A vote would be nice.

[DrippingGoofball]

READ SIG!

CLAIM TIME!

READ SIG!

[DrippingGoofball]

V.V;; How can traitor communications even be a legitimate argument against Jack.

Duh

The scum were fishing for the Traitor out in the open, and the Traitor was fishing for his buddies out in the open.

Dug Duh Duh

Jack's POST NUMERO UNO:

lol, NS has already revealed himself as the evil god.

After some chat I claimed to be scum and he straight up revealed himself.

SpyreX acknoledges receipt of message:

That said the Jack-move doesn't bother me.

Vote: Me=Weird

And Spyrex votes for "

I am weird

" Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. You be the judge.

And in the same message, he hints some more:

If the stars align and its death time early, don't pish posh it.

Get it? Get it? If you NK me, no big deal, go right ahead and NK me! I'm your buddy! Don't lynch me... NK me! If the

STARS

, the stars that come at NIGHT, if the STARS align and it's death time early...

Then he makes doubly sure the message in well understood in his second post.

However, bet me now, Jack is gonna be town. So is figuring out NS is the scum lord (when he is) actually worth it?

And then, triply sure:

Jack's upping the stakes makes no sense as a town gambit - he's either telling the

straight truth

or

scum

. Considering what we've seen from Fish and DGB, I'm thinkin its the former but I'll give it a real go in a bit

Semantics tine. The straight truth, is that Jack said the truth about being scum. Or, as SpyreX says, the straight truth (actually scum) or scum. Jack is scum, or scum. Pick one.

Jack signaled that he is scum, and that NS is the scum god. SpyreX said "I get it" and then proceeded to emphatically defend the player he thought was his buddy.

This is how Traitor communication is an argument against Jack.

As is the claim stalling.

[DrippingGoofball]

Looking for other possible evidence of Traitor-Fishing.

CLEAN PLAYERS:

Hey team. I'll be checking in here eventually...little behind on the site...been doing some reading on my phone. I imagine I'll be voting Jack when I do read.

I'm replacing in for the man. Thanks for the welcome; no i am not scum. I'll try re-reading today and tomorrow as much as i can.

My damn god has yet to post. Can I switch religions?. No traitor-fishing.

Yay now I can LOL about this! Reading

Vote: Lady Lamdadelta - Nobody cares about statistics. Nobody likes scum. You used statistics. You are scum.

Don't have time to read. Heading out the door to pick up the little one. Will read when I get home tonight. - Her second post has no hint of any possible traitor communication.

Votes hito. No hints.

Long post, but no hint of fishing.

No traitor-fishing, jumps right in.

DUSTY PLAYERS

a long post that says Jack is town.

Random vote, "Sorry for not posting but I'm reading now and should post tomorrow." No traitor fishing.

"We should make a

priority of trying to find out who the scum god is

. I see discrete chatter with a god as being very useful (we have what amounts to

two

uber-neighborizers

) but it's disastrous if people share information with the scum god.

For now, be certain not to share anything overly important with the gods; hopefully later we can make a more informed decision and take advantage of that godpower.

"

FILTHY PLAYERS

Oh, hey,

I know

most

of my fellow followers

. Hiya!

I can poke, prod

, and wedge holes in your arguments for as long as my god allows me, and

I will reveal you to be the scum that you are!

The comments are null. It's Jack and Nobody Special, after all.

Hello all.

Some of you know me, the rest are about to get to know me.

I was too busy yesterday to participate in the pregame, but after reading it I don't feel like I missed much by not being there.

The important part of Jack making a sensational claim I certainly did not miss.

lol, NS has already revealed himself as the evil god. After some chat I claimed to be scum and he straight up revealed himself.

[DrippingGoofball]

IT IS WINDY AT THE ALTAR AND FRUITS ARE FLYING.

DELICIOUS FRESH FRUIT

farside22
Andrius
Benmage
me=weird/CMAR/nopoint
themanhimself/Corvuus
Mina

WINEGRAPES

populartajo
hitogoroshi

DEAD Lady Lambdadelta

DEAD DeathRowKitty

PRUNES

Zang/DTMaster

OVER RIPE & MOLDY

DEAD SpyreX

WORMY APPLES SERVED BY A TALKING SNAKE

Equinox
Feysal
Jack

Ladies and Gentlemen, Mortals and Immortals, I present you the scum team, the black mold that taints the fruit. And yes! Equinox is a moldy strawberry... and tajo is a good apple.

[DrippingGoofball]

DrippingGoofball, that's not a slip.

1. Equinox - Duh.
2. farside22 - Open Game list mod, etc.
3. Feysal - Played in a marathon game with him, lynched him.
4. Mina - Played in a large theme game after she died, got to read her posts and liked her play style. (Starting to emulate some of that, actually.)
5. themanhimself - Played in my Open game as a replacement.

Therefore, I knew most of my fellow followers.

Derp.

It's not a "slip" - it is a telegraph to your mystery Traitor.

That it is factually correct doesn't matter at all, the message is still loud and clear, and aimed at helping the Traitor identify you.

[DrippingGoofball]

The comments are null. It's Jack and Nobody Special, after all.

Yeah, uh... Why is this here?

You're defending your buddy and your god that have outed themselves to the Traitor.

I read the rest of your "defense" including your "defense" of other players, and it's leaking a lot of water. I think the scum ship has hit an iceberg.

Also, no claim from Jack yet, he's getting ripe for the hammer.

[DrippingGoofball]

The stuff you've underlined up there is TOO SUBTLE. I think you're getting overexcited and just pointing out whatever looks even remotely like fishing when NO ONE would have understood it.

It's not subtle at all when you're a traitor, or scum, and you know what you're looking for -

your missing buddies that you'll get to know better later.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah. Equinox is obv town. Scum often is. That's how they win games.

But Equinox made the mistake of telegraphing the Traitor who he is.

[DrippingGoofball]

I have no idea why you guys think Jack is scum despite lolgambit early in the day. Someone?

It's NOT, NOT, NOT a "lol gambit" -

Jack was telling the prospective Traitor who he is, and which scum god to look up to. Check how SpyreX demonstrates that he understands this message totally. "

Hey, I'm your guy, fellas!

"

NOT A LOL-GAMBIT

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, Jack is now entering claim-stalling territory.

[DrippingGoofball]

why dio you have hito as good guy if he also "telegraphed the traitor"?

He didn't telegraph as hard as these two obv-buddies, Feysal and Equinox.

May I draw your attention to the similarity of wording?

FEYSAL: Hello all. Some of you know me, the rest are about to get to know me

EQUINOX: Oh, hey, I know most of my fellow followers. Hiya!

[DrippingGoofball]

I've been playing to draw NKs all game.

You won't draw the NK if there are other, better targets. But thanks for the WIFOM.

[DrippingGoofball]

Come on guys - first things first

Why are we letting Jack get away without a claim????????

[DrippingGoofball]

Those votes need to get back to Jack pronto.

He need to fabricate a fakeclaim for giggles.

[DrippingGoofball]

Farside, part your basic premise is incorrect, I think.

SpyreX was sending hito messages perhaps, but he didn't know that hito was, or was not, his buddy. The proof, if there is one, would come from hito making a clear reply to SpyreX that YES, he is his unknown buddy. Aside from a SpyreX town read, I really don't see all that much traitor-fishing. It's ambiguous; that's why I put him in a gray area.

[DrippingGoofball]

Your timing is terrible, farside, it's letting Jack get away... he's stalling his claim... we can't be giving him an excuse by leaving his wagon.

[DrippingGoofball]

Jack is officially

SCUM GIVING UP

FAKECLAIM STALLING

it's

HAMMERTIME

Jack isn't claiming. He's given up. It's hopeless, Equinox and Feysal have been caught telegraphing to the Traitor along with him. The scum cannot win.

[DrippingGoofball]

I could give the extra vote and force a lynch, but I rather players commit and co-sign.

[DrippingGoofball]

This makes me sad, DrippingGoofball. I thought you knew what you were doing and would've sheeped you. I guess it's quite apparent now that you don't, and I'm on my own for that reread.

If it makes you happy, we'll kill Jack and Feysal before we kill you.

Right now, it sounds like you want to make a mega case against some other player to get pressure off Jack, and give Jack reasons to delay fakeclaiming until his wagon fritters away.

[DrippingGoofball]

Sorry, those barrels of delicious, perfect mangoes have gone to my head.

As for the rest, well, I attribute it to a fiber-rich diet.

[DrippingGoofball]

Guys, NS might swoop in and steal the hammer or do shenanigans.

[DrippingGoofball]

Don't do this. Please don't save me for later. If you're dead set on lynching me, I want you to do so before you lynch anyone else.

If Jack and Feysal flip scum, then my theory that the scum were signaling to the traitor in-thread is correct, and you'll need to die.

I'll congratulate you for being feisty and playing the townie part most excellently, except for the traitor shout outs.