PYP 4: New Homes, Same Problems (Day 5)

Parama · Post Post #37 (isolation #0) » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:18 am

Jack is scum
Andy is town
Hoopla is town
DGB is town

vote: Jack

More to come when more post

Parama · Post Post #40 (isolation #1) » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:26 am

Guderian 1,1
Volkan 2,6
chkflip 9,5
Zodiark13 12,1
Benmage 3,4
slowsilver 3,5
Ellibereth 5,1
Rabies 5,7
Hoopla 10,1
Le Cupcake 10,6
Jack 11,1
xvart 11,7
Fate 13,1
PranaDevil 13,10
llamafluff 8,1
Parama 8,5
inHimshallibe 8,7
Drippinggoofball 6,10
iamausername 6,11
Andrius 6,1 <--- Random WINNER
Sajin 6,1 <--- Random Loser
Pomegranate 6,1 <--- Random Double Loser!

reference list

Parama · Post Post #83 (isolation #2) » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:41 pm

Jack is scum
Andy is town
Hoopla is town
DGB is town
xvart is town
IAAUN is scum
Pome is town

Jack is still scummier IMO.

Parama · Post Post #85 (isolation #3) » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:44 pm

Jack is also exploiting silver to direct the lynch away from Guderian. Except he's doing it without words.
But yeah I guess
Jack is scum
Andy is town
Hoopla is town
DGB is town
xvart is town
IAAUN is scum
Pome is town
Guderian is scum

Parama · Post Post #91 (isolation #4) » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:49 pm

unvote, vote: Guderian

Okay, 3 scum down 3 to go

Parama · Post Post #92 (isolation #5) » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:50 pm

Or wait it'd be 2 to go right? (there's 5 scum right?)

Parama · Post Post #144 (isolation #6) » Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:13 am

vollkan, we've already come to the conclusion that we hate each other's playstyles. Just deal with it.

Jack is scum

Andy is town
Hoopla is town
DGB is town
xvart is town
IAAUN is scum
Pome is town
Guderian is scum
Fate is town
Sajin is town
Jack is town

Parama · Post Post #151 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:39 am

inHimshallibe wrote:Parama is probably scum.

Then why aren't you voting me? Huuuuh?

Parama · Post Post #158 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:50 am

Guderian wrote:What if scum all picked 6?

*headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk*

Parama · Post Post #168 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:14 am

Pome, gandalf and slow are bad players who will always look scummy regardless of whatever they do.
You're town.
Understand these things.
Obey.

Parama · Post Post #208 (isolation #10) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:36 am

Hoopla wrote:
Parama wrote:Pome, gandalf and slow are bad players who will always look scummy regardless of whatever they do.
You're town.
Understand these things.
Obey.
That's stupid reasoning - how do you catch them as scum, then?

vig shots
investigative reports
scumslips
lynching them before lylo

Parama · Post Post #210 (isolation #11) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:55 am

Jack is scum

Andy is town
Hoopla is town
DGB is town
xvart is town
IAAUN is scum
Pome is town
Guderian is scum
Fate is town
Sajin is town
Jack is town
inHim is scum
slowsilver is town (NOTE this should be earlier on the list, I reread and found something especially town.)
Rabies is scum

THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOT YET MADE THE LIST
Volkan
chkflip
Gandalf5166
Benmage
Ellibereth
Le Cupcake
PranaDevil
llamafluff

Additional:
BM is being retarded. Shockawe.
Fate is actually funny for once. Odd.
Llama is really freaking hard to read. One posts will make me think town and another will make me think scum. However if my Rabies scum read is correct then Llama will definitely be on the leaning scum side.
chkflip and Cupcake seem like players who seems like they're just THERE. Half the time I forget they're in this game. I don't like that at all. This may be my own fault however because I'm not reading this thread as closely as I should be.
I am wary of Elli because I would expect to have a solid read on him by now except that he hasn't posted anything at all in 3 posts. So I really can't tell. And that's really bugging me.

I'm surprised that nobody (besides vollkan) cares that I'm not backing up these reads. I have the evidence to back them up, I just don't feel like writing any of it up. Ask and thou shall receive. If you ask me for all my reads at once, I will instead respond with nocase's avatar (like I did to vollkan).

Parama · Post Post #212 (isolation #12) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:28 am

He is scum, therefore we should lynch him.
That's the short answer and I don't have time for the long one right now.

Parama · Post Post #218 (isolation #13) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:54 am

Why am I on your town list?

Parama · Post Post #226 (isolation #14) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:16 am

Okay, look at the voting patterns at the start of the game.

Fate wrote:
Unvote:
Vote: Guderian

3 pages later...

DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Guderian

Less than an hour later...

iamausername wrote:VOTE: slowsilver

Soon...

LlamaFluff wrote:
unvote
vote slowsilver

Jack wrote:
unvote, vote:slowsilver

Consecutive posts.
Then...

Pomegranate wrote:VOTE: slowsilver

gandalf5166 wrote:
VOTE: slowsilver

Consecutive again.

Nice big counterwagon springing up though there's some town votes on there too. The timing (after the Guderian wagon looks like it has a chance of taking off) is just too convenient...

Guderian's posts themselves:

Guderian wrote:
benmage wrote:Vote Andrius Kitoari's replacement. This is a real vote.

I agree, more wagoning.

/self-explanatory
Yeah... so many things wrong here. You're not voting... anyone... yet you call for a bandwagon. On a stupid BM vote. For no reason.

Guderian wrote:Fate, im not sure what you're trying to pull, and you can drop the aggressive act. Do you think you appear town by trying to be aggressive and getting your name out there a lot? Its annoying.

Comedian of the year award goes to...

Guderian wrote:parama, that's quite a list you've got there.

Passive as hell.

Guderian wrote:If youre trying to get scum lynched, maybe you should vote yourself, instead of me? Just a thought.

How about a FATE case on you?

1. the second letter of your name is an a
2. the second letter of mafia is an a
3. YOUR SCUM SPAM SPAM SPAM

Wow. You're really serious here? And you're still not voting. The lack of a vote is quite damning. If you think someone is scum... you vote them.

Guderian wrote:Why did I change numbers to 1,1? Because I believed that no one else would pick them, thus I could choose the role I wanted.

The fact that you changed your numbers is a scumtell in itself <____<

Guderian wrote:What if scum all picked 6?

This is just being dumb, but also a huge distraction. This may be the worst logic I've ever seen.

There's just no way these posts are coming from a town player. It's ridiculous how scummy this guy is, even without the voting patterns of the thread.

Parama · Post Post #229 (isolation #15) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:27 am

That's because I'm posting. Don't worry, I don't have anything worth posting atm unless someone asks.
@Llama - That's not the problem I have with him. I am arrogant as hell always. That doesn't stop me from scumhunting while also getting people to side with me. And claiming to change numbers is in fact explicitly claiming to be scum. But whatever. We don't NEED your vote to lynch him.

Parama · Post Post #230 (isolation #16) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:28 am

Also can you change your sig? I don't like being reminded of Popularity Mafia.

Parama · Post Post #233 (isolation #17) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:36 am

I don't care about convincing you in particular to vote for him. I'm following what I believe too, y'know.

Parama · Post Post #258 (isolation #18) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:00 pm

I see several people who say they feel I'm scum, and none of them are voting me.
This is gonna be a fun game :>

Parama · Post Post #261 (isolation #19) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:10 pm

chkflip wrote:@Parama:
- Yeah, I have just kind of been HERE because I haven't contributed jack. Game started when I was out of town and, if you missed it, I just said I'm sick. I don't want to v/la out, and I won't, just expect my post count and relevene to shoot through the roof when my head stops burning up.

Cool. I will give you town points if you follow through on this and don't make a mockery of it.

Parama · Post Post #267 (isolation #20) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:53 pm

vollkan - I'm assuming you mean xvart town? You put two reads there and then asked me to post one.

Parama · Post Post #268 (isolation #21) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:00 pm

xvart ISO #0 seems incredibly unstressed - in that the tone comes off as though
1. he doesn't care what others think of him
2. he's not trying to avoid attention
3. he's trying to play a social game
The first 2 are generally towntells, and the 3rd tends to give me town vibes as well.

xvart wrote:
LlamaFluff, 45 wrote:2 I just chose two numbers around the midway point, got around the area in the draft I wanted actually
You
wanted
to be towards the bottom?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: llama

xvart wrote:
iamausername, 60 wrote:What makes that worthy of a vote?
Well... the game is called Pick you Power. The novelty of this game is that you get to... wait for it... pick your power. Someone who signed up for pick your power and
wanted
to be at the bottom of the list signed up for the wrong game. Either that, or has other motives; and by other motives I mean
scum
motives. Seriously, did anyone in this game want to be the last to pick their role?

While I don't agree with the logic, xvart sounds like he believes it here.

This is pretty much all the posting that came before my town read (the last quote is after but is logic backing up the first, thus worth noting). If I posted any more on the matter, it would be lying. And I don't care to waste time writing up walls on town reads, so I'm stopping here.
I will admit it's not one of my stronger town reads in light of recent xvart posts but I still stand by it.

Parama · Post Post #321 (isolation #22) » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:33 am

unvote, vote: gandalf5166

Parama · Post Post #387 (isolation #23) » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:53 am

Hoopla wrote:devil's avocado

xD

The rest of the Hoopla-Fate argument is a waste of time.

unvote, vote: inHim

Parama · Post Post #430 (isolation #24) » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:21 am

gandalf5166 wrote:What? Chronopie?

Fate's talking about another game in which who cares.

PranaDevil wrote:Dead Hooplascum as Mafia Goon is better for town day 1 than say, dead Guderian scum as Mafia Vig.

Jack wrote:No.

Anyways, I'm going to update my list. BRB.

Parama · Post Post #435 (isolation #25) » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:43 am

Jack is scum

Andy is town
Hoopla is town

DGB is town

xvart is town
IAAUN is scum
Pome is town
Guderian is scum
Fate is town

Sajin is town

Jack is town
inHim is scum
slowsilver is town
Rabies is scum
Le Cupcake is scum
LlamaFluff is town
PranaDevil is scum

THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOT YET MADE THE LIST
Vollkan
chkflip
gandalf5166
Benmage
Ellibereth
DGB
Sajin

Additional:
Elli's posting has not made me feel any better about him. All I see is a town list, which is missing a scum list.
chkflip, please replace out.
vollkan, responding to my Guderian case while he has barely responded himself makes it look like you're stepping in to defend him. While I understand that you may read him as town, he needs to defend himself. I don't care about your defenses to attacks that aren't on you.
Llama is scum only if gandalf if scum, but not necessarily IF gandalf is scum. And since I have gandalf at perfect null right now, Llama goes into the town reads as a result, if only by association.
My issue with gandalf is that he's dumb, and some of his mistakes can be attributed to that. I'm still watching him but we should be pursuing better things. Like InHim. It shouldn't take a PR investigation to lynch this scum. I might do the case without any requests because he needs to die die die.
vollkan - 1. Well then I'll say that xvart doesn't tend to be a joker in mafia games, at least from my experience (no offense to xvart). 2. That's not a low hanging fruit at all, though. It's not attacking an easy target and it's attacking the target with true belief - like xvart actually believes Llama is scum, which is different from what you're describing.
And I wish you would stop with the goddamn points already. They are completely arbitrary. Just a playstyle thing but it pisses me off every time I see you giving them out.
inHim 351 TOO LATE BRO
FATEFATEFATEFATE. I KNOW YOU ONLY SPEAK LEFTSHIFT, SO HERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU. STOP ATTACKING HOOPLA. SHE IS TOWN. YOU ARE WASTING MY TIME AND MY BRAINCELLS WITH YOUR BABBLE.
Crap. There are 6 scum now. That's awful.
And Sajin's getting closer to being the 7th. What the hell, guys.
DGB you are a distraction. A fun distraction, but a distraction nonetheless. I highly suggest actually scumhunting.

inHimshallibe wrote:inHimistowninHimistowninHimistowninHimistowninHimistowninHimistowninHimistown

[/wish]

That you care so much about my list makes me even less inclined to grant your wish.

Parama · Post Post #456 (isolation #26) » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:38 pm

You are not doing anything. I'd prefer someone being useful.

Parama · Post Post #466 (isolation #27) » Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:22 pm

I think Llama took it to mean the 4 uniques on his scumlist. That's what I took out of it as well.

Parama · Post Post #470 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:03 pm

Yeah Llama the issue is I don't really think any of those three are scum. Yet. Andy hasn't really fulfilled his posting quota this game though which is making me rethink my town read on him. Sajin lost his town read... Pome's kept it though. I'd be most willing to lynch Sajin out of the three, but there are 6 scum in a game with 5 scum and we need to take care of them all first.

Parama · Post Post #472 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:14 pm

Like Guderian.

Parama · Post Post #510 (isolation #30) » Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:06 pm

7/10 needs more rhymes and needs meter

Can you post the major points of your BM case? (3 is fine, I don't want to see a wall tbh.)

Parama · Post Post #559 (isolation #31) » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:48 am

Parama · Post Post #596 (isolation #32) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:43 am

YOU ALL SUCK PLEASE LYNCH OFF MY LIST

Parama · Post Post #597 (isolation #33) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:43 am

Jack is scum

Andy is town
Hoopla is town

DGB is town

xvart is town
IAAUN is scum
Pome is town
Guderian is scum
Fate is town

Sajin is town

Jack is town
inHim is scum
slowsilver is town
Rabies is scum
Le Cupcake is scum
LlamaFluff is town
PranaDevil is scum

Parama · Post Post #598 (isolation #34) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:48 am

Benmage

- 1 -

Guderian

- (L-11)

chkflip

- 1 - Drippinggoofball - (L-11)

gandalf5166

- 10 -

Hoopla

, Benmage,

Jack

,

Le Cupcake

,

Pomegranate

, Ellibereth,

iamausername

,

llamafluff

, chkflip,

xvart

- (L-2)

Guderian

- 2 -

inHimshallibe

,

PranaDevil

- (L-10)

Hoopla

- 3 -

Fate

, gandalf5166, Sajin - (L-9)

inHimshallibe

- 1 - Parama - (L-11)

Jack

- 1 -

Andrius

- (L-11)

xvart

- 2 - Volkan,

Rabies

- (L-10)

Players not voting:

slowsilver

Parama · Post Post #599 (isolation #35) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:50 am

Crap, that makes it pretty damn obvious that Guderian is town.

unvote, vote: Benmage

I'm gonna sheep llama here and I hope llama sheeps back.

baaaa

Parama · Post Post #601 (isolation #36) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:54 am

I think everyone wants to lynch Cupcake, but no one wants to start a wagon.
Which is a damn good argument for Cupcakescum.

Parama · Post Post #603 (isolation #37) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:57 am

SURVEY TIME

I want everyone's reads on these 5 players. No other explanation needed besides your read. In fact, if you say anything more than "town" or "scum" then I will punch you through your computer screen.

Le Cupcake
Benmage
slowsilver
inHimshallibe
Andrius

DO NOT FAIL TO REPLY, ON PENALTY OF LYNCH.

Anyone who is one of these five players should not give a read on themselves.

Parama · Post Post #605 (isolation #38) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:59 am

Because Llama is picking between 2 good lynches and trying to decide which is better.

Parama · Post Post #608 (isolation #39) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:05 am

^Prana, because the top player was scum in that game.

Parama · Post Post #610 (isolation #40) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:07 am

GET ONE.

Parama · Post Post #616 (isolation #41) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:27 am

As long as you do it at some point in the near future, I won't lynch you for it.
I will however gladly lynch you for other reasons.

Parama · Post Post #638 (isolation #42) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:45 am

I think inHim just scumslipped.

Parama · Post Post #710 (isolation #43) » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:35 pm

That was the hammer?

Why do we fail, town. Why?

Parama · Post Post #712 (isolation #44) » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:41 pm

Mod posts lynch scene
Locks thread
Processes actions
Sends out all necessary PMs
Opens thread
Posts day start scene

Parama · Post Post #713 (isolation #45) » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:41 pm

And this is why I loooove nightless games

Parama · Post Post #747 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:39 am

I LOVE INHIM WAGON

vote: inHim

Parama · Post Post #754 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:09 am

unvote, vote: Cupcake

Parama · Post Post #762 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:30 am

There's a cupcake who is scum as well.

Parama · Post Post #764 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:57 am

Le Cupcake wrote:Parama is andrius' scumbuddy.

Unvote, Vote Andrius

Parama · Post Post #776 (isolation #50) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:37 am

I was in that game too, which means Le Cupcake is scummmm

Parama · Post Post #778 (isolation #51) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:46 am

Why do you think I'm scum?

Parama · Post Post #780 (isolation #52) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:56 pm

Because he hasn't posted?
I'm not against the lynch but there are better lynches to be had.

Parama · Post Post #815 (isolation #53) » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:57 am

unvote, vote: PranaDevil

Parama · Post Post #830 (isolation #54) » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:26 pm

Anyone voting slowsilver gets scumpoints. You people are just lynching the always-scummy players it seems. And I'm pretty damn sure silver is town this game.

Parama · Post Post #855 (isolation #55) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:43 am

Le Cupcake wrote:IAUN is about to be modkilled as well...

Good, Rabies and IAAUN are both scum with you and Prana so this is going to be amazing.

Parama · Post Post #860 (isolation #56) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:09 am

PranaDevil wrote:
Parama wrote:
Le Cupcake wrote:IAUN is about to be modkilled as well...
Good, Rabies and IAAUN are both scum with you and Prana so this is going to be amazing.
You and Llama have now both said I'm scum... Yet I have yet to see a single person have any reason behind it. How's about we start doing that eh?

Fine, I think I will.
When I have time after school.

I'll start by saying that scum tend to phrase the accusation of "no case" in this particular way, IE "You say I'm scum but don't say why, therefore you have no reason to attack me."
It's funny because you didn't deny being scum.

Parama · Post Post #879 (isolation #57) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:23 am

Is slowsilver hammered? That means we lynched town, which is crap play.
Fate you're not as good as you think you are and I'm better than you think I am.

Parama · Post Post #881 (isolation #58) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:32 am

Except this time the broken record is right. Even a stopped clock is right at least twice a day

Parama · Post Post #892 (isolation #59) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:48 pm

inb4 we lynch town

Parama · Post Post #896 (isolation #60) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:50 pm

Fate wrote:
Vote: PranaDevil

So YOURE the reason we can't have nice things huh Prana?

:goodposting:

Fate wrote:UH OH IS THAT THE SWEET SMELL OF TEMPTATION?

VOTE: SLOWSILVER

:badposting:

Parama · Post Post #899 (isolation #61) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:52 pm

Elli is town.
Rabies is scum though so

Parama · Post Post #901 (isolation #62) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:55 pm

Rabies wrote:
xvart wrote:
LlamaFluff, 45 wrote:2 I just chose two numbers around the midway point, got around the area in the draft I wanted actually
You
wanted
to be towards the bottom?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: llama

xvart.
hahahahahahahahaha

You're scum

VOTE: xvart

Fate, this is a scum post.

Parama · Post Post #903 (isolation #63) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:56 pm

I haven't updated my list in a while have I.
Oh well.

Parama · Post Post #904 (isolation #64) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:57 pm

Fate wrote:I on the other hand say he's flippin town.

Yep, slowsilver's flippin' town.

Parama · Post Post #907 (isolation #65) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:01 pm

5 and 8 are the octavarium numbers. I chose 8 as my first one because 5 is smaller and therefore more likely to be taken. Which of course means that not taking it gets me a lower placement in the draft <_<
I'm such a loser aren't I.

Parama · Post Post #1385 (isolation #66) » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:29 am

My READS SUCKED WOO
I blame Fate for telling me early on that Jack was town.

Parama · Post Post #1388 (isolation #67) » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:38 am

Start playing better then.

Parama · Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:25 am

PranaDevil wrote:
Parama wrote:Start playing better then.
Says the guy who barely called any scum... and calls other scum "obv town", despite playing the exact same trick in the last game.

Yet very few thought I was scum. And I acknowledged my reads sucked, but if you want to see me owning scum, go check out Mini 1063, Mini 1079 or Mini 1093. Those are probably the three most recent examples.

Parama · Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:05 am

PranaDevil wrote:And Parama, step down off your little soap box. Nobody gives a shit.

PranaDevil wrote:Twice I've been called scum in these games and I've been town... When will you guys realize that I ALWAYS look scummy?