Hydra Mafia (Day 4, I can't think of a clever title!)
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ARE YOU SCARED OF CAPS? LOLOLOLbv311 wrote:I CAN USE CAPS TOO.
Be a dear, and tone it down some ok? I'd rather not read through a game of CAPS WARS.
I lol'd.Mr Smith wrote:So Professor Paradox somehow includes Fate even though he's not in this game. Nice to know.
Bowser's most recent post is completely worthless.
And, no, we won't ragepost all time. Maybe for a while on pregame/RVS, and if any of us consider it suitable later, but this might change.
Expect the unexpected is all I can say.
Indeed. Anyone thinking otherwise is a bad player.Mr Smith wrote:As soon as the thread opens, scumhunting commences. This is the law in any mafia game. Do not pass off my logic simply because "OH IT'S NOT D1 YET LOLOLOLOL".
Identifying townies is an important part of scumhunting IMO. However, I accept the first part.Mr Smith wrote:I signed up for this game for the anonymity provided by being in a hydra. If you're going to force a headclaim, you're basically destroying my main reason for joining this game.
Aside from that, identifying townies and then lynching everyone else is a terrible way to scumhunt.
This head is a schizo at talking about meta. One head seems to love meta (I think...), while the other one (this one) doesn't like to use it as argument, as it might be used as excuse to pass off poor play as meta. That is annoying, and useless.
@T&J: If you do have more than one navigator, you can use one to log in as the hydra, other to log in as yourself. That's what I'm doing.-
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/confirm
1. Lateralus + ?TomAndJerry wrote:/confirm
Some questions,
1. Your hydra name/pair (If you so wish)
2. Lynch all Liars/Lynch all Lurkers?
3. Do you think meta will help in this game?
4. If you had to lynch one person right now who would it be, why?
5. Timezone/how active each of you expect to be.
6. Your favorite role?
~Tom
2. No, No. (Absolutes etc.)
3. Yes.
4. Don't know haven't read anything.
5. East. Pretty active...
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1. pacman here (other head already reported).TomAndJerry wrote:/confirm
Some questions,
1. Your hydra name/pair (If you so wish)
2. Lynch all Liars/Lynch all Lurkers?
3. Do you think meta will help in this game?
4. If you had to lynch one person right now who would it be, why?
5. Timezone/how active each of you expect to be.
6. Your favorite role?
~Tom
2. neither. I've seen a very strong counterexample to LaLiars before. LaLurkers is just too risky; you get way too little info from lurkers.
3. I dislike meta. It can be easily used to pass off easy scum play as town play. So, no.
4.My other headNot sure here. I got a small scum vibe from Bowser due to his "oh it's not day yet so posts here won't count towards the game" attitude.
5. EST. I'll have somehow limited access now, then no access for one week (thus my other head will be in cruise control for the time being). Then, I'll be moderately active (about once per day).
6.Nk-Immune Compulsive Dayvig Death MillerNo idea either. I prefer being town, however.-
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pacman here.
What can I say... my other idiotic head decided it would be fun to fakeclaim its head.Mr Smith wrote:Tom's early attack on PP earlier that made him look scummy before now makes him look obvtown.
And PP needs to explain why he's lying about his nameclaim.
I just decided to follow through. I warned him, but...
Other head is slightly pissed at the fact the consequences weren't as hilarious as expected. lol.
I don't know if my other head will claim again or not. It's his choice .
OH WAI RVS ALREADY? WAIT FOR MEEH!!!
Vote: Pineapplebecause fruits are tasty.
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I've not done the reread yet.Mr Smith wrote:Okay yeah RVS is long gone. Thanks for ignoring the discussion even though you appear to be well aware of what we're discussing.unvote, vote: PP
Will join a Boswer wagon if it forms (wouldn't be suprised if took off now that I'm off the wagon <_<)
However, you're right. No RVS.
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Heard this before, never got it.Ice cream wrote:I don't like Bowser's FoS, it's increda-pointless in the RVS.
From my experience it's pretty even...and from the whole earlier VI thing: methinks VI's are fun to read.Mr. Smith wrote: I think people who act like a VI (like BV311) are scum.
Oh yeah, I know the whole nameclaim thing is strategically good blahblahblah but I don't feel like doing it. Most of the people here prob already know who I am anyway...-
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The last line of one of you're earlier posts where you said you had no reads or something, I'll go find it.Chimaira wrote:I am not going to nameclaim. For me the fun of the game is not knowing each other.
but there is absolutely no town reason I could see for fakeclaiming. the only times I have seen someone fakeclaim something (I'm not talking about roles here, of course) they were scum.
what makes you think that?Professor Paradox wrote:Chimaira is town.
I also think PP's "town-tells" in posts 172/173 are scummy. I see no reason town would go and call three people town like that, except in a sort of find-scum-by-elimination-thing.
VOTE: Professor Paradox
What's wrong with calling 3 people town?
Have you ever played with me (Ellibereth) before?-
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Oh crabby is right on this.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/search.php?a ... 4&sr=posts
^^^Oh mai lurkerz.
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HEY I HAVEN'T REALLY SAID THAT I'M ELLI YET.
OOOOOOOOOOOYAH.
But I am. >.>
First line is correct, decided to do this before we got role.I wouldn't put it past Ellibereth to do something silly like that as scum, to be honest.
However, both me and myko think that PP's 2nd head is not Ellibereth, and the head is lying AGAIN.
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ICE CREAM
How do you think Bowser is posting somewhere else!?!?
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... 4&sr=posts
^^^STILL IS BTW.
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Professor Paradox here, checking in with a new hydra head: It is I, MacavityLock! (So, you'll probably be able to figure out what posts come from RAGECAPS ELLI and which come from me.)
Well, no need to worry about this anymore. (Also, I'm pretty sure this is a Hello, Nemesis!)MasterSpy wrote:I dunno, maybe it's just that Elli and pacman have very similar posting styles (flippant short posts, overuse of capslock and anime smileys), but I keep getting paranoid that they're switching identities.
~The White Spy
Anyway, after a first pass, Pineapple IceCream is a tasty scum combination. I'd prefer IceCream right now, but would happily vote Pineapple at deadline to secure a lynch.Unvote. Vote: IceCream.-
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I've actually been following along with this game for a bit, and had some opinions formed before officially replacing in here. Sorry if it came off as abrupt, but sometimes that's how I work.MasterSpy wrote:What made you so confident in your vote right off the bat?
There's nothing in the QT about swapping stances on meta. There was specific discussion about attempting to get reactions from the fake-name-claimee (Lat). I see where you're coming from about Elli's back-and-forth on name-claim in thread, but all I can say is that it's Elli. I am of the opinion that it can only help town to know who I am, which is why I name-claimed in my intro post.MasterSpy wrote:Pity that pacman isn't here to answer my questions, but I don't suppose you could give a heads-up to Ellibereth to explain the contradiction on meta stances, could you? Or did you get a sneak peek into the QT? Surely they've discussed who was posting what there.
The random vote, legit FoS at the start was horrible, no doubt. And then there was lurking. But since Untrod started posting in earnest, I don't see any major issues. I'm willing to give some slack for the replacement. Also, a Pineapple flip (Pineapple turnover?) would provide more info here.MasterSpy wrote:Oh, and one last thing. What do you think of Bowser?-
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However long it takes for people to realize that I'm not going to let this hydra rest on any laurels. Anything you particularly need me to respond to?TomAndJerry wrote:
When will this process be complete?Prof wrote:Sadly, with the power of New ML Head, lack of contribution is in the process of being reversed.
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So, there's nothing at all in the hydra QT between Oct 20 and Oct 30. (The MrSmith-PP butting heads stuff in thread was on Oct 24.) Elli and pacman seemed to be serially inactive. I'm not sure I can provide anything interesting for you on that account. But that won't be happening moving forward.TomAndJerry wrote:Mostly interested about your view on Mr Smith. Elli expressed some interest in him recently, did he mention anything in the qt? Was that completely for kicks and giggles or was it a honest read?
~Tom
As for me, based on my current read (and MrSmith isn't one of those I've completed an iso on) and gut, they're in my "mild scum" pile. With two days to deadline, I would not be all that interested in a wagon here today.-
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I didn't mention anything.TomAndJerry wrote:Mostly interested about your view on Mr Smith. Elli expressed some interest in him recently, did he mention anything in the qt? Was that completely for kicks and giggles or was it a honest read?
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It was honest...the jester comment and the way he replied after I said it was weird, still feels weird...-
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Bowser: 4: Mr Smith (1), Professor Paradox (9), bv311 (10), TomAndJerry (12)
Pineapple: 3: FourTigers (3), MasterSpy (7), Faranor (11)
Professor Paradox: 2: Pineapple (6), Chimaira (8)
IceCream: 1: Crab Canon (4)
Not Voting: Bowser, IceCream
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Professor Paradox: 3: Mr Smith (3), Pineapple (7), Chimaira (9)
Pineapple: 3: FourTigers (4), MasterSpy (8), Faranor (12)
Bowser: 3: Professor Paradox (10), bv311 (11), TomAndJerry (13)
IceCream: 1: Crab Canon (5)
Not Voting: Bowser, IceCream
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Pineapple: 3: FourTigers (4), MasterSpy (8), Faranor (12)
Bowser: 2: bv311 (11), TomAndJerry (13)
Professor Paradox: 2: Pineapple (7), Mr Smith (18)
bv311: 2: Crab Cannon (14), Chimaira (16)
Mr Smith: 1: Professor Paradox (17)
Not Voting: Bowser, IceCream
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bv311: 6: Crab Canon (14), Chimaira (16), FourTigers (20), MasterSpy (21), Mr Smith (22), IceCream (23)
Bowser: 2: bv311 (11), TomAndJerry (13)
Professor Paradox: 1: Pineapple (7)
Pineapple: 1: Faranor (12)
Mr Smith: 1: Professor Paradox (17)
Not Voting: Bowser
Putting Troll's votecounts all together somewhere to make my life easier...Along with the last which was basically almost repeated in the lynch by bv...first or second might be helpful in the future...
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Crab Canon wrote:
What info do you see coming out of that? Also, you think a Pineapple flip would be informative, but you're voting IceCream....idk about the people in this game.PP wrote:Also, a Pineapple flip (Pineapple turnover?) would provide more info here.
Well, there's that, plus Bowser's random vote on Pineapple, plus he's the L-1 vote. I think there are some nice ties there to analyze.Crab Canon wrote:
I second this. There is way too much stalling of giving reads and reasons for reads in this game. Pretty unacceptable.MS wrote:-His insistence that he needs to see Pineapple's flip before he can make a single case grates at me. Bowser, just save time and answer this. Who do you think is scum if Pineapple flips town? Who do you think is scum if Pineapple flips scum?
We previously requested a claim from Pineapple. We're willing to hammer. There are now 3 people requesting a Pineapple claim, and they've thus far failed to acknowledge this.
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PP will not be claiming until Bowser completes their full claim and IceCream explains the below:
Also, I will be low activity until ~Tues due to continued Thanksgiving break. As long as Bowser and IceCream comply soon soon, this should not delay things too much.IceCream wrote:Either Mr.Smith or Bowser has to be scum. How can they both get roleblocked at the same night?
I find it suspicious that Mr.Smith didn't comment on Bowser despite the fact that if he was town, he would be almost confirmed that Bowser is scum.
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The answer to that is also the answer to this:Faraday wrote:Why would anyone not watch Bowser? Or more to the point not watch him night 2 and then watch him night 3. Tom and Jerry is a really odd choice for night 2, so yeah explains.
Right after the hammer, I had to run off to class, then pack for my Thanksgiving trip. We missed Bowser's "in before lynch lock" claim pre-N2. Having targeted Crab N1, we wanted to Watch the non-Crab person most likely to get night-killed by our proposed scumteam Faranor/IceCream/MrSmith, which was T&J. Upon review for Watch targets over N3, we found Bowser's Tracker claim and Watched him (and were RBed in the process).MasterSpy wrote:Hey, Professor Paradox?
Three minutes elapsed between your vote and my asking you this:
Any reason you didn't answer this immediately?MasterSpy wrote:PP, your ISO 42 essentially just says, "I don't know why PP took the stance he did on meta." That's not an answer. I want Ellibereth himself to come in this thread and explain why he backtracked his stance on meta. Why did he refuse to claim? Which posts were his and which were
Speaking of which, can you explain what you meant by the discussion about "reactions"? Paraphrase it some more. Ellibereth made it sound like he did it mostly for the lulz. What reactions did he say he was hoping to draw?
As for the answer to MasterSpy's original question inside the nest, the in-hydra discussion of "reactions" had to do with paying attention to when Lat was online, seeing if he responded right away or "went to discuss with hydra buddiez", among other things. Anything else is direct question for Elli, so I can't answer.
IceCream member who wrote posts 671 and 673, have you ever been in a game with a Tracker before? You are not cleared.
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Elli here.
We didn't see the end of day claim stuff then until later and i had and do have Tom/Jerry as a big town read sooooo.
And to the Masterspy meta stuff:
I didn't backtrack on my stance. I knew or think, whatever, that it was better for town to have it openly available who was in what hydra...but i thought it'd be more fun to screw around and that it wouldn't hurt.
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Faranor is still scum.
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