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It wasn't a random vote, I'm serious, iso joe and tell me his posts aren't neutral and non-committal as hell.Cobalt wrote:Dis, I too would like an explanation for the mod scene.
Here's what I can tell about the general mod-posted strangeness. I'm going to err on the side of speculation, as I don't have any role based info on this, but here's my best guess: one of the players in this game has a Tarhilandur-esque ghost role that won't let them vote and forces them to speak through the mod with these cryptic messages. The "chill and darkness" mod scene was obviously a player-activated power, although I have no idea what it did.
On a more prosaic note, I don't like that Ray is using an old case I already responded to as a way to keep his vote on me. I can't defend against an attack I already refuted, and plenty's happened in the game since my response.
Speaking of which,unvote vote reckoner. There's plenty to comment on and you make a RVS-like post, this late in the game? At least Shotty is talking on topic now.green shirt thursdays-
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joe478 iso:
1: random-votes saberwolf in policy-lynch fashion due to previous experience with him
comment: not that bad of a move, no red flags raised yet
2: agrees with Gorrad that the mod's scene was just flavor text
comment: nothing added, no content, just a useless fluff post
3: calls RayFrost out on saying he has reasons to vote cobalt without sharing them
comment: i don't give him any town points for this one, RF was pretty much begging for someone to call him out on it, and to be honest, i think it's an easy way for scum to look town by questioning the person who is withholding information.
4: more (pointless) discussion on the mod's scene
comment: once again, i HATE this line of discussion and i think it's an easy way for someone to appear like they're being active and posting and discussing without actually adding anything.
Not even sure what to think of #5.
6: clarifies Hayker's post
comment: seriously. how much useless fluff can one person post?
7: asks how the modscene is connected to DC.
comment: see #3.
8: continues pursuing modscene.
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MafiaSSK wrote:RF is scum then.unvote vote RF. He is digging way too much into this one single mod scene. He seems to think that Slicey of all mods would be stupid enough to let the flavor lead to scum.
I like these posts.Vaya wrote:Are all of you people completely unfamiliar with the flavor? It should be obvious what Discode's role probably is, and that this person is probably town. I really don't like the attacks against him right now.
That being said, I wouldn't mind if Discode claimed his rolename to confirm that he is the person I'm thinking of. I don't see how it could hurt.green shirt thursdays-
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Attacking when nobody else was attacking you on something I happen to agree with him on (but not enough to vote you) is pro-town behavior to me.RayFrost wrote:
Soooo...~xRECKONERx wrote:@RF: I don't necessarily think you're scum, I just found those two posts pro-town IMO.
MSSK is pro-town for attacking me for digging at DisCode?
Not seeing how this makes sense. Attacking is a null tell.green shirt thursdays-
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Yes.RayFrost wrote:
So... my pressuring/pushing/questioning Dis/Gorrad/You/etc would be pro-town behavior, and MafiaSSK pressuring me/nobody else would also be pro-town behavior?xRECKONERx wrote:
In my honest opinion, pro-town behavior on D1 is to pressure everything you can, while scummy behavior is to blend in.fuzzylightning wrote:@Reckoner: Why is being non-committal on Day 1 a scum-tell?
Zwet, shut up. You fail.green shirt thursdays-
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This is an excellent point.Gorrad wrote:Deathnote and Zwet would both be acceptable lynches in my eyes, but frankly DisCode is so blatantly scum! For Zwet, at least, his behavior is normally this scummy. Can't really say about DN, haven't played with him enough to know.Unvote.
As is this. I don't think it's a scum tactic though, not this early on. How about I go withCobalt wrote:Look at DN. Aside from the fact that his posts are nearly all fluff, this bit
is absolutely awful, and he also told the modvoice to stop talking. die scum diemy character is so basic.... oops. Hope I didn't give anything away.Vote: DisCode.green shirt thursdays-
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Read this: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12105
It's a game where I was scum with zwet. Iso zwet's posts.green shirt thursdays-
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@Plum:
What we've got here is a case of zwet playing against his meta, therefore I think it best to lynch him. Check my wiki for Empire at War Mafia. I was scum in that game with zwet, and honestly, the playstyles don't differ TOO much. Yes, he was more active in that game and more pursuant of town lynches, but not on D1. His overall unhelpfulness in this game makes me think VT-zwet-who-doesn't-care or scumzwet. Either way, I'm fine with his lynch.green shirt thursdays-
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This post gives me an erection.Papa Zito wrote:Plum's talking like she knows what zwet will flip.
Plum, I don't know nor care what zwet's meta is. All I know is that he isn't contributing anything whatsoever to the game, and I've lynched too many scum who play the lurker game to stop now. You can say "Yeah but so-and-so isn't doing anything either" if you want but that doesn't excuse zwet (or those people for that matter) at all. I'll happily join a viable wagon on any other lurker scum, especially on Day 1 of a large game where it's just too easy to lurk. If zwet's wagon suddenly magically melted away and was replaced by *insert scummy lurking player slot here* then I'd join that one too. This isn't about zwet, this is about removing scummy players and improving our chances down the road.
That said, I'm also up for lynching one of Sir Chris/Rayfrost just to make them shut up.
I nearly tore my hair out reading the back and forth between Chris and Ray. Seriously, just stfu, your bickering IS NOT HELPING TOWN AT ALL. It's just a pissing match between one neutral-read of mine and one townie-read of mine, and the arguing is doing NOTHING to push either of you either way. How about moving on and doing some actual scumhunting?
@Icerint: now that I go back and read through Empire at War again, I just realized something. Zwet was actually active and pretending to scumhunt there, BUT HE WAS SCUM. However, it was also a mini game, and he didn't really ever start picking up the pace with the scumhunting until D2. So, it seems as if he has NO vested interest in helping to scumhunt this game. Why?? One of two reasons - either he's a vanilla townie who has completely lost interest in the game, or he's scum trying to coast his way through while resting on his meta. NEITHER are good for town.
@Kdub: Do you think the fact that Empire at War was a mini and this is a large has anything to do with his playstyle?
@Mod: Can we get a prod/replacement on zwet?green shirt thursdays-
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@DGB:
I make outlandish claims like that from time to time based off of my ESP. I'm kinda psychic.
All jokes aside, I wasn'thonestlyimplying you thought all twelve of us were scum. I was more prodding to figure out who you thought the scum-teams were in that list. And... no, I don't actually know why you included me on that list (aside from me saying I didn't like the Cobalt vote and making an assumption that there is no scum on the zwet wagon yet.
Either zwets is bullshitting...or...he's bullshitting. My quote that DGB quoted was AFTER her original list was posted... which means zwet literally hasn't been paying attention the entire game and is just now trying to throw the blame somewhere before he gets wagon'd. Lawl. Zwet is obviously scum, especially after such feeble attempts to post "content". Let's lynch him already.zwetschenwasser wrote:xReckoner is my top pick for scum for the quote DGB beat me to.green shirt thursdays-
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Papa Zito wrote:...
There's not 17 scum in this game, DGB.
That's a much different response than this.DrippingGoofball wrote:
I know, but there are a lot of players, it's taking a little longer for my town reads to gel.Papa Zito wrote:...
There's not 17 scum in this game, DGB.
xRECKONERx wrote:All.... twelve of us are scum, DG?
Why treat Zito differently when we both insinuate the same thing?DrippingGoofball wrote:I KNEW that was coming, haha, only a scumbag would pull out this "argument."green shirt thursdays-
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HOW does his coming after mine make his BETTER? Am I just completely fucking missing something here, or are you just THAT hypocritical?
DGB, I've been asking you to point out specific scum connections since you put like half the players in this game on your original scumlist. I've been wanting more than just "I haz skum reed". When I posted that, THE WHOLE POINT WAS THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL OF US AS SCUM, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT PROPER REASONING.
Then Zito does the same thing, and you're like OH LOL IS JOKE.
Bull. Shit.
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Yes, Hayker.
Oh, btw.Vote: DrippingGoofball. Blatant hypocrisy, saying it's wrong for me to ask her to come up with actual scumteams instead of blanketing half the roster as just "scum", general vibes, plus DisCode's play. Yup.
And I need to go reread her play pre-zwet-kill. I think I missed something.green shirt thursdays-
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This post both has me agreeing with it and raising an eyebrow. My gut says it comes from town, and that DoS is also town. My rational thought says I shouldn't just be willing to clear someone because they refuse to defend themselves.Gorrad wrote:
This is a large. Just because they aren't scum together doesn't mean that they can't both be scum.DrippingGoofball wrote:
I'm suspicious of players that defend, with disproportionate passion, worthless players/lurkers/zwet. That's something that scum will do to earn town cred. Not always; but I've seen it a lot. That's what raider was doing. If this tilted raider further in the scum column, it balanced SirPent into the town column.Gorrad wrote:Anyone suspecting DGB at this point has never played with her.
DGB, I see your point on Raider, but what makes you think that just because he's scum SirPent can't be?
I was about to join the DoS wagon, but then I saw his last post. Not even any defense against the not-insubstantial wagon! In my experience, unless they're total newbies, scum fight tooth and nail to avoid their own lynches. Townies roll over and take it much more frequently, as they have less to lose by them being lynched. DoS could be WIFOMing, expecting someone to say this, but I don't believe he is.
I much preferred the SirPent wagon. Can we get more on him, please?
In any case, I haven't had a chance to breathe today, let alone re-read. But I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on SirPent.green shirt thursdays-
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