Scum like Kinetic?roflcopter wrote:you would say that, since you're scum too
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Precisely.The Fonz wrote:
Scum like Juls?DrippingGoofball wrote:
Scum like Kinetic?roflcopter wrote:you would say that, since you're scum tooParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Wouldn't it be better if both targets were scum???WeyounsLastClone wrote:What I think might be a good idea is have two targets, of which you would say 'if one is scum, the other is not, and vice versa.' And we'll bring them both down. I think if we take two opposite persons, chances one of them would be scum are quite big.
Narrow it dow to three, please. Or at least put their names in order, from most scummy to least scummy.WeyounsLastClone wrote:feel there's probably scum among ABR, populartajo, rofl, and The Fonz.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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More importantly, we need to know who you think is town, and who you think is scum. Please write a comprehensive list, with your thoughts on each player. Thanks.Firestarter wrote:obsolete issuesParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Could it be your suggestion that we kill a townie along with a scumbag?WeyounsLastClone wrote:What? I don't post content and it's suspicious, I post content and it's suspicious?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Since my action on Kinetic didn't count, I am fully charged.Albert B. Rampage wrote:dgb can we plz hurt weyouns?
I find it hard to ignore the bizarre episode that is Firestarter's most recent post, though.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Ugh??? I understand how it 'works' especially the part how it kills more townies.WeyounsLastClone wrote:No. I want us to hurt two people who we think might both be scum, but not together. A couple you would say, 'if one is scum, the other isn't; and vice versa'. Off course, it'd have to be a collaborative effort, and people who are more leaning towards one of them would hurt that one, and others the second.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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He gets ONE chance to explain how his system doesn't kill more townies. For laughs and giggles. Then I hurt him. I'm going to see a movie tonight, might have to wait until I return.q21 wrote:So that if we do kill a scum there's also a townie right there to go down with them. Right?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I just saw ViqLES reading the thread, and failing to report whether he has a results. MMmmmMmmmmm....Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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WLC has failed to explain how his plan kills more scum than townies, depriving me of laughter. I wear a frown.
I support hurting WLC. However, since the scum started dumping rage points, it's better for me now to use my other power rather than hurts/heals. I will make sure to voice my express support/disapproval of wagons so that my opinions continue to be traceable.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I don't need to announce time, do I?Xylthixlm wrote:You might want to vary your use times a bit so that the scum can't guess exactly when you will be between uses.
BTW, the bunny isn't quite himself. He's usually more polite in his condescension.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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With two hurts a pop, no less...Xylthixlm wrote:roflcopter is a serious hypocrite for trying to tar me with WaltWishbone, now. At least I had support from other people and wasn't just going on a one-man crusade.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Mind posting the Kinetic wagon for quick comparison?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Wait... aren't watch PMs secret between you and the mod? How could scum have realised this if you aren't one?zwetschenwasser wrote:My PM to watch was about 8 hours too early, so I have to try again. It's interesting to note that scum realized this in order to quickly dump their rage points before my watch cycle started.GENIUS
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So you don't think your wagon is scum-driven? It's a town-driven wagon?Seraphim wrote:I am alright getting killed by a town organized towards my death with discussion and a case [...]Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I didn't realize that. Never mind.zwetschenwasser wrote:What slip did I make? I think I made it pretty obvious to everyone that I was going to start watching after Juls died. All scum had to do is check to see that they still had a few risk-free hours after my hurt action to dump their rage. I'm sort of confused as to what I said that was "damning"Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Hey zwet, you never said who you watched. Don't say it unless your watch period is over.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Gah! I hope you're lying,zwetschenwasser wrote:I started yesterday a few hours after the rage dump.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I believe that The Fonz got it wrong now that you've cleared it up, but for heaven's sake (this is the perfect game to use that expression) do NOT advertise the timing of your watches, unless you're scum and you're looking for excuses as to why you never catch anyone.zwetschenwasser wrote:I'm not. THAT'S WHY I MADE MY COMMENT THAT FONZ MISREPPED.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I've been calling zwet town all game, but if The Fonz had been correct with his premise (he was NOT), then I could see how it would indicate that the scum had inside knowledge. Had The Fonz been right, then I would have changed my stance on zwet. Your case wasn't convincing, there were more convincing cases at the time.q21 wrote:Wait, so Fonz points out one thing about zwet, something that can genuinely be explained in a non-scummy way and you're ready to view zwet as scum.
I point what he's done in thread that is scummy and you ignore it and call him town.
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I think both WLC and q21 are focusing their attacks on YOU. They seem to have a least a rudimentary understanding of 'focusing attacks.'Albert B. Rampage wrote:Weyouns do you understand the concept of focusing our attacks?
Independently of the merits of hurting you in general, I don't see the logic of them not hurting you if they think you're scum, to focus on another player that possesses the ability to catch scum and is easy to kill, as ordered by you.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Which means you shouldn't hurt me if you're town.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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There's some truth to that; however, there's that chance that scumbags are leading the town to kill one townie at a time, say, after gaining town cred from bus'ing one of their own on day 1.Albert B. Rampage wrote:What the hell don't you understand about HURTING ONE PERSON AT A TIME? Concentrate your efforts, does this ring a bell?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Not WLC, but ZWET. Zwet could potentially catch scum, and is very easy to kill, being rather low on HPs to begin with, and having caught some hurts.Albert B. Rampage wrote:How is Weyouns easy to kill or possess the ability to catch scum?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Advertising incorrect times is even better, that's why I waszwetschenwasser wrote:On another note, advertising the times you are going to be watching helps get scum nervous about using their rage points (which I think they could use now to finish me off)hopingyou were lying about it. Do not confirm or deny.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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So. Townies are going after you. You know they're townies, eh?Albert B. Rampage wrote:All the townies who decided to go after me
I sure would like to try.Albert B. Rampage wrote:...are going to suffer now, because its going to be fucking impossible to distinguish the scum from the town after I die.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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And don't use hurts/heals unless there's evidence of scum dumping a truckload of RPs, if at all. Promise to liberally express your support/disapproval or wagons so we know where to stand.zwetschenwasser wrote:I see the chocolatey goodness of DGB's sneaky plot...Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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You made it sound like they're all town.Albert B. Rampage wrote:If there are 6 people attacking me, Nurse Ratchet, they can't all be scum.
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Could you list them for easy reference?Albert B. Rampage wrote:If there are 6 people attacking me[...].Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Where's the list?Albert B. Rampage wrote:There are 8 people who want to kill me.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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He left clues in thread for the whole world to see. But again, he may be looking for excuses.The Fonz wrote:You said Scum took advantage of your pm going in too early. The only way scum know when your pm is going in is IF YOU TELL THEM.
ABR himself counted 8 people with intents against him, so this point is debatable. I think even ABR would have to recognize that WLC had support.The Fonz wrote:Look, Weyoun is the one who started the ABR hurting... with no backing.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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We agreed that lurkers were fair game for unsupported hurts? I didn't know!Albert B. Rampage wrote:1) I don't need backing to hurt a lurker.
He is a watcher with little HP, and if he puts up a fight it's going to be with 5-word posts. This could be a great opportunity.Albert B. Rampage wrote:2) I still want to hurt zwet.
And now, ABR's bell tolls for zwet.Albert B. Rampage wrote:3) After calling intent to hurt viqles and dgb, I said I didn't want to hurt the observers first.
Even if you think the hurts are scum-driven? I guess the strategy might be to go look at who was on the wagon, but in practice, we seem to be killing townies, then looking for needles in haystacks. Not that I have a better strategy to propose.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Fonz is NOT saying you should never heal anyone, he's saying that you shouldn't heal someone who is actively being hurt.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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But you want OTHERS to focus on hurting an Ophan??? Whassup with that...Albert B. Rampage wrote:No, I shouldn't hurt zwet, because I already said I don't want to hurt Ophans.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Evidence:Albert B. Rampage wrote:Weyouns do you understand the concept of focusing our attacks?Which means that we are focusing our attacks on YOU, and a few other key players likeWhich means you shouldn't hurt me if you're town.ZWET.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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The above was a couple of pages ago.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Weyouns do you understand the concept of focusing our attacks?Which means that we are focusing our attacks on YOU, and a few other key players likeWhich means you shouldn't hurt me if you're town.ZWET.
This directly contradicts: "No, I shouldn't hurt zwet, because I already said I don't want to hurt Ophans." This was written on this page.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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That's not my gut. One minute you don't want to dirty your own hands hurting Ophanim, but in the next breath you entreat other players to do the deed.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Go with your gut. We'll see where that gets you.
Again, you really do seem to KNOW I'm town.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Your complete lack of a defense is noted.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Yep. You know I'm town.Albert B. Rampage wrote:"to keep yourself from feeling bad when you see I'm town."Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Too brazen to be scum. ^^^^^roflcopter wrote:at this point i'm just going to act as a very slow vigilanteParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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The plot thickens. Should he or should he not reveal who is was/is watching if he dies?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I don't understand this.Tenchi wrote:Interesting ABR. With all that is going on right now, that statement was a long-shot. Similar to the attacks of Shinnen on the 75% thing.
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We'll see in end game.The Fonz wrote:Your attempt to paint albert's 'those townies on my wagon' stance as knowing they are all town is similar.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I'd say it would depend it Shinnen thought he was going down for sure. He might want to make a last-ditch distancing attempt. But if Shinnen thought there may be a chance that he would survive, he'd be more likely to strike at a townie.The Fonz wrote:Question to everyone: do you feel the Shinnen hurt on rofl is likely distancing, or genuine attempt to harm an antagonist?
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My attempt to heal Kinetic failed on account on an error on my part. But no one talked of punishing me for tryingFirestarter wrote:What stance are we taking with unilateral actions..
Single helas/hurts should not go unpunished.
Why bring this up now, I wonder. Besides, I approve of a Xyl heal.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I don't think unsupported hurts/heals are that much of a problem. To enforce it with death would removes flexibility in our play, slow us down, etc. I think it should be a case-by-case basis. No unsupported actions should be a guideline, not some rule blindly enforced with an iron fist.Firestarter wrote:Are you objecting to having a stance on the unilateral hurts/heals DGB?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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That, too.Tenchi wrote:I feel that it will just spread out the hurts.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Idealistic? Has it been that much of a problem in practice?Giuseppe wrote:I have to say, I find DGB's idea a bit better in a perfect world, but it's a bit idealistic. I think if we could get a group of people who present the CounterHurt unit, then we could leave the rest of the town to their devises.
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Explain? I sense comedy.Xylthixlm wrote:It's a bad sign when I look at the hurt/heal patterns and think "This would make so much more sense if I was scum".Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Yes, I noticed. You're not hopping in heads of early summer cabbage and tender carrot tops the way you usually do.roflcopter wrote:i've realized this game is making me a lot meaner than i usually am. but seriously guys, don't be so stupid.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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The question is, did the scum believe her to be a likely watch target?Xylthixlm wrote:...Nuwen was the one who didn't use rage. (Or I have a serious misunderstanding of how rage works.)Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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IF there are 4 scum, and IF they thought she might be watched.Xylthixlm wrote:
The rabbit has a point.roflcopter wrote:being a seraph, if she is scum she's the most valuable member of the team, and she was obviously scummy when she killed walt, so i'd say its likely she would be the one not to use rage.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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We've been dilly-dallying around a lot today.
We should settle on a lynch.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Undeniably.Xylthixlm wrote:Mainly IF there are four scum. If Nuwen is Seraphim-scum she would be the logical choice to hold her rage point.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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QFTroflcopter wrote:the (really stupid) rules that are being shoved down are throats now involve only being allowed to suspect ONE PERSON AT A TIME, and not suspecting ANYONE if you'd rather be healing
I violently disagree with this strategy, I have no idea why suddenly it was 'needed.' I can just see those Rage Points piling up as we bicker.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I personally don't support Xyl hurts. However, there is a case that can be made for counting support of dead players that are confirmed town. But then again, a dead player's opinion on day 1 isn't worth the same as one maderoflcopter wrote:so telling me i can't use walt's support for a xyl hurt is like telling someone they shouldn't reread a dead town player's analysisin extremis.
Whatever happened to using our judgment? We'll be wasting our precious time arguing about rules, their application, and a good dose of 'making up new rules as we go along' with some scum taking advantage of it and hiding behind the interpretation of paragraph 2b, line 56.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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It's creating problems to solve a non-existent problem.
I'm not going to say any more on the matter. My disagreement just compounds the idiocy.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Question: have you looked for evidence that they may be buddies?roflcopter wrote:they're equally likely to be scum as i believe they are both scum.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Are you referring to a plan of finishing off Xyl?roflcopter wrote:i can't wait til tomorrow when we get to find out if the retaliation team has the balls to actually go through with itParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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So there's an exception to the rule for copter, who is allowed to hurt without consequence? Or did I misunderstand you.The Fonz wrote:Well, doesn't that commit me to killing Rofl for one violation? I don't think he's scum. If Nuwen's scum, killing Rofl could be catastrophic.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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We could have a 24 hour period where everyone voices the 3 players whose hurt they'd approve. We can act on it in the following time period.populartajo wrote:I can think in anything but fakevoting.
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and/or players whose hurt we disapprove.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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this is basically voting for 3 playerspopulartajo wrote:Would that work, or is it too stupid to consider?
i approve.[/quote]Thanks. I think 3 votes will speed things up considerably.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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