mystery box of silver 15: i'm killing hostages (negotiated)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: koba

my only goal in this game is to somehow get to be the first person to be knocked out of the park by my boy Tommy Edman come hell or high water

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not going to give reads on anyone

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

{Doctor Drew}
{Meuh}
{Alisae}
{MUSHSHAGANA}
{DKKoba}
{Skygazer}

why is your reads list upside down and why are you voting your second strongest town read

you alrdy did more townie shit than i did so sux to be you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have spent the last three months that this game was in signups reading old schadd games to get into his head and figure out how he scumhunts

my prep work is EMACULATE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

{Doctor Drew}
{Meuh}
{Alisae}
{MUSHSHAGANA}
{DKKoba}
{Skygazer}

why is your reads list upside down and why are you voting your second strongest town read

you alrdy did more townie shit than i did so sux to be you

excuse me but is that a read i see

no its not cuz u could always be mafia in which case you are ineligible

i am simply saying this would look townie to schadd in the world in which u r town and if u r scum then you're not eligible anyway

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i uh hardclaim scum or something

schadd has never scumread a scumclaim in his entire scumhunting career

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

schadd only scumreads softclaims

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: koba

my only goal in this game is to somehow get to be the first person to be knocked out of the park by my boy Tommy Edman come hell or high water

I support this, but only because schadd_ owes me Riot At The Bat Rack-posting.

<insert scummy buddying response and comment about the weather and how we haven't seen each other in a while>

<nod and try to establish touchpoints>

<ask Mush for latest fanfiction>

<nod vigorously>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

tommy edman hit three times, a single, a double, and a triple, against colorado's "pitching". if he got a home run before d1 started i would not have counted it.

imagine being unable to hit home runs in colorado wild

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky, you cannot pocket me, not least because 3/5ths of me did not exist before late 2022, and Ad (the other one who did) has all the emotional depth of a puddle of concrete.

I've learned how to use concrete manipulation

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am an experienced alcoholic so you will have no chance

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i had too many white claws and pasta bolognese

does white claw even count as alcohol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky I demand your page 3 reads on all players that you said yourself you would not be providing

I'm not going to read anything this game except my scum pt

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

*scumposts*

Tweetie is mafia

my only read i will give this game

because it would look weird if I didn't scumread her

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok tweet i need to come up with something to accidentally post in the main thread that looks like it came from the scum pt so I can say I'm joking about posting in the wrong thread

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky I demand your page 3 reads on all players that you said yourself you would not be providing

I'm not going to read anything this game except my scum pt

Been pretty fun in there hasn't it

every scum pt with me is a hoot

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its actually wild that morning tweet has decided to openwolf but no1 will vote for her because we all want to be tommy edman's first home run

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what if she was town and openwolfing to beat me to being tommy edman's first home run

that devilish little bat

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we're only getting older, baby

and I've been thinking about it lately

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can't even write what I think of koba's alignment because it would betray my sacred quest to be tommy's first home run

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean brain empty no thoughts lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

DEMACIA!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would just like to say I'm unironically a tommy edman fan

I have a shirt with his name on it and everything

I was at Tommy Edman's first birthday party

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

does anyone here really believe baseball is a sport

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I cannot believe how much sauce this made. It's concerning.

Anyway, please explain your serious vote, ofrhz.

We're on page 5 and she has almost every poster sorted? Nah, that's pinging me and feels contrived. Why is the dr. drew town for instance?

solid point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i know that post looks like its expressing a read but the fact that I haven't followed it up with an actual vote is what makes it SUS and thus makes me deserving of being Tommy's first homer

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would just like to say I'm unironically a tommy edman fan

I have a shirt with his name on it and everything

I was at Tommy Edman's first birthday party

Really? That's pretty cool

yea he grabbed a bat and started smashing the other presents

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

koba is like outted scum atp for real

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

koba is like outted scum atp for real

i know this looks like a read but if its wrong its scummy af so I have to go for it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

He's been practicing his swing before he could even walk

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i legit think if we just yeet koba and they flip mafia then we could just flip everyone not on the koba wagon and win the game

the only downside to this plan is that we might never get to see the greatness that is Tommy Edman hit a homer or two

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like this is nightless its not like the baddies can do shit to us

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky do you think you'll be killed as a hostage before or after your 20th anniversary. please do not look up a schedule of how many games tommy edman will play in during the next 11 days. that would be cheating

it would be glorious

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like the most obvious play is to just speedrun the shit out of this game to increase the homer to lim lim ratio

i wasnt going to say this broken strat because i think this setup is broken but then i remember schadd trolling me when I was scum with a "disloyal vig" in a game with 2 protectives and the mafia literally had no way to block the vig or anything and I remembered Schadd just makes townsided nonsense setups and we should abuse it as much as possible.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there are 14 town and 5 mafia.

5:14 nightless is actually ridiculously townsided the normal setup for nightless is 1:2 ratio with numbers increasing town advantage so we should just speedrun and try to crush the scum before tommy edman finds his groove

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also the reason I think koba is town is because they know enough about setup and they are ruthlessly good at abusing setup quirks so the fact they didnt lead off with the speedrun strat is p lolscumclaimy to me

also popping in and claiming they've seen enough from me when im spamming the shit out of this thread is pretty ? like id imagine if they were town they'd at least be fighting me for thread control instead of just popping in saying three words and disappearing on me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the most important thing to know about baseball is that nobody watches the game unless they're trying to fall asleep.

I've been to over 700 baseball games in my life and most of the time I just chill with your friends and drink unreasonable amounts of beer while waiting for the beautiful sound of bats cracking in the summer air

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can't imagine how bored you must be in real life to be entertained by baseball

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like how many times can you watch the pitcher throw to first base to try to get the runner out before you're like wow what a bad sport

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also whats the point of paying a pitcher 300 million dollars to throw a perfect game

thats like paying for things to not happen

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes thats what i say in the post

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this setup is 14 townies versus 5 mafia

this means we have 8 mislims before its 6 townies versus 5 mafia and that's elo

for every mafia we eliminate - we gain an additional mislim
for every time Tommy Edman homers, we lose a mislim

the ideal way to play this setup is with maximum velocity and no mercy for the scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I guess you could argue since Schadd is only blasting the scummiest of the town that it's not really a lost mislim but I don't trust schadd's reads

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if we're talking about pregame signup posts then

Oh wait you're choosing scummiest townies... interesting, in that case I will hold off on thoughts pending my alignment roll :p

looks very scummy cuz you didnt actually say your thoughts when you entered thread and you pretty much said you would

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if the goal of the players in this town is to simulate a baseball game by making sure nothing happens then I guess I can sit back and wait for the blessed mercy of Tommy Edman's bat to put me out of my misery

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not actually miserable that's just a turn of phrase.

I guess I am waiting for my savior Tommy Edman to send me to Bear Heaven

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Sky and Meuh are somewhat towny to me on page 8

I can't imagine how bored you must be in real life to be entertained by baseball

like how many times can you watch the pitcher throw to first base to try to get the runner out before you're like wow what a bad sport

also whats the point of paying a pitcher 300 million dollars to throw a perfect game

thats like paying for things to not happen

there's something interesting happening 0.1% of the time, there can be highlights maybe, one per game ! It's also really fun to play its my favourite

...

It must be really sad watching a no hitter

It's enjoyable for exactly 1 person actually the pitcher is probably not having fun either sweating over every out

@HPE actually youre right, I would still sign up for that

whats townie about meuh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky wanna tunnel eachother for like 10 pages and then end up townreading eachother by the end anyways

the only way I would townread you is if you deliver to me dead scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

omg hi

This is a kind post from skygazer. She is probably town, because mafia would feel too guilty to be kind and welcoming and friendly

im ngl skygazer's profile picture is too cute to be scum and if she's mafia i'll just lose to her idc

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you'd save me just to torture me with this boring af "sport"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe if u sucked it wouldnt happen to you but why would you want to suck lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol scum radiation might be the best read yet

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

koba sending a box of steroids to tommy edman rn

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe ranger is just chilling in the scum PT with me and we're trolling you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you never know in the world of tommy edman

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bc YOUR pov is so much different from my own POV in how i am seeing these slots and either u are TMIing or u just arbitrarily assigned those reads. seems like an anti-spew method to not explain so its not clear which it is

imagine claiming the POV of someone scumreading you is very different from your POV

like rofl what even is this

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if ranger is town and koba is town then obviously ranger's POV is different from koba's POV because Ranger can't see Koba's role PM but Koba can see koba's role PM so what even is this

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thats bullshit tbh, now i think i got it. pooky told u to tunnel me no matter what in scum pt.

true I told my entire scum team we just had to yeet koba right away or else they will kill us all with their giant death laser

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think ranger thinks I'm awesome

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the more BS high standards you try to throw at me, the harder i will throw them back at your weak posts

lol ok

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think the quality of the case doesn't have much to do with whether the target of the case is mafia or town

I'm not here to get my PhD

this is a mafia game on the internet and I don't even think it's that serious to begin with

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think the quality of the case doesn't have much to do with whether the target of the case is mafia or town

I'm not here to get my PhD

this is a mafia game on the internet and I don't even think it's that serious to begin with

if ur case is poo poo in basis then its no better than throwing darts

nah

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is a mafia game on the internet and I don't even think it's that serious to begin with

hey!! i am taking things very seriously

mmmhmmm

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think ranger thinks I'm awesome

Eh, I guess. You're respectably competent. You've excellent knowledge on particular players. You've good insights. You had a read I resonated with. I suppose that qualifies as thinking you're awesome.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

curious that since my activity sharply picked up, not a single peep from people on my wagon on whether the new evidence has changed anything for them

some are just afk! others im just p sure are scum tbh

i already told you what i need from you to change my mind

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm shocked the koba has decided to give up on trying to butter me up and flipped back to deathmatching me after their olive branch did not work on me

completely unexpected turn of events

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

curious that since my activity sharply picked up, not a single peep from people on my wagon on whether the new evidence has changed anything for them

some are just afk! others im just p sure are scum tbh

i already told you what i need from you to change my mind

then if im the mayor, you ought to be sheeping me today, not voting me

so name names

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dunno you've been wildly pointing in every direction like a broken clock since I started pushing you

you've changed your read on me three times in two days

you wanna final answer something or what?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

imagine pulling meta from a game 7 years ago and claiming its accurate this is wild

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont even remember what I was like 7 years ago ngl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea ofc theres no point looking at town games when you have an agenda amirite

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i havent read a single ranger game and i dont plan to btw

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im way too lazy to meta someone in a baseball nightless where the scum r like heavily behind in setup balance and their only saving grace is TOMMY EDMAN

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea ofc theres no point looking at town games when you have an agenda amirite

yea ofc theres no point in reading my posts when you have an agenda amirite

Ranger feels NAI at best to me, I'd want the top tier in 930 explained

Peregrine's play has impressed. I don't see any hints of being informed on aspects of the game, any agenda, or any scum motive/intent behind their posts. I do see signs of solving. I believe the claim, and think it +town.

WhemeStar's been looking progressively more +town as the game unfolds. I've seen evolution in WhemeStar's thoughts and contributions, producing nuanced posts.

Here There Be Dragons are both displaying promising approaches in their perspective. While both are longstanding players capable of faking their contributions thusfar as scum, I've vibed with their...well, vibes, fairly consistently.

an example of town ranger actually capable of elaborating on a read

thats cherrypicked

does town ranger elaborate on every read she has ever made?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont care bc if u are town here u dont even respect my arguments bc you arent even considering them or reading things I say seriously.

ok koba correct me if I'm misunderstanding you ok?


your argument is that ranger is mafia because she is not elaborating on her read on you and if she were town then she would elaborate on her read on you.

for your evidence you've provided one example of ranger!town in a completed game elaborating on a read.

now for that evidence to be conclusive - it would also have to be true that ranger!town in every completed game would have to elaborate on all of her reads[or reads when asked]

now if you think that's true we can go on to the next step of asking ranger if she's ever not elaborated on a read as town in a completed game.

Any issues?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont care bc if u are town here u dont even respect my arguments bc you arent even considering them or reading things I say seriously.

ok koba correct me if I'm misunderstanding you ok?


your argument is that ranger is mafia because she is not elaborating on her read on you and if she were town then she would elaborate on her read on you.

for your evidence you've provided one example of ranger!town in a completed game elaborating on a read.

now for that evidence to be conclusive - it would also have to be true that ranger!town in every completed game would have to elaborate on all of her reads[or reads when asked]

now if you think that's true we can go on to the next step of asking ranger if she's ever not elaborated on a read as town in a completed game.

Any issues?

ur not clearing ur partner off a gotcha, sorry. that is not my only reasoning

my scumread reasoning meets higher standards than others on me, so frankly idc

1. I'm not "clearing" ranger - I'm just pointing out the hole in your logic - you can explain why its wrong or you can just be discrediting with a nonsense remark.

2. ofc I have different standards for different players. I've played lots of games with you and I've never played with ranger in my life.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's dawning on me that this back and forth is doing nothing for the game at hand, this little song and dance has gotten boring now.

At least make it look like a real fight at this point.

youre not helping with comments like this, go away unless you have something to contribute

I am contributing, this is such contrived theater between you two.

Bad take imo

i disagree

it's at least an entertaining take

bad takes have to be dreadfully dull and also wrong

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

drew claiming koba might be a jester is pretty lulzy

maybe drew is mafia because I usually only think he's funny when he's a bad guy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ur making me fucking do 10x the work ofeveryone else. stop making me your explanation mule

wtf is an explanation mule

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok dont let me post for (expired on 2023-08-09 13:35:09)

i have posted more than 2x the next highest person and people are prob gonna kill me for flooding thread anyways and making it "unreadable" lol

o well

i will claim if needed but otherwise radio silence

roflmao

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky, how do you feel about this exciting new development? About Ranger giving a positive read on Koba?

doesnt change kobas role pm being mafia lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

A) pooky is blatantly openwolfing and idk how pooky gets away with this dumb playstyle as scum everytime and people just lap it up like he put you under a spell

its my years of experience

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Then don't try to pretend you can accurately read him like that and see that the quality of his play is poor and at least he should be pushed to a higher standard of play instead of whatever this is.

lol @ quality of play

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its d1 of a 19p with no flips yet, i dont need to solve shit, i just need to kill the baddies one at a time and laugh at how dumb nightless is as a setup because the baddies cant shoot me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Uh, I already did consider why I misread town Pooky? I always do a post-mortem of my play after the end of a game. It's even in all the threads. Each time, I reread the whole game and come to conclusions about how myself and everyone else played, mistakes I made, things I can improve on. Except for Burdened By Secrecy, which was a case where Ad stunned our system and the game was over so fast no one else found their footing, if you check the post-game of any game I've played, I analyze my own play or admit that I lost track of the game and can't really recover enough to be sure. Death Curse was a game I was firing on all cylinders, maximum power.

He's doing exactly as much solving as he did in Death Curse. Go ISO that behemoth game if you don't believe me -- and for the record, using Death Curse as an example since you're fond of meta, you're this game's Noraa.

And he did this in pokemon theme game as scum
He does this as town sometimes on purpose to mask his scumplay bc he likes having a trust tell when he actually tries. He has a very easy line to cross to be townread and he knows it if he is town

lol when did i do this in pokemon

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I actually am buying into Pooky-scum rn (caught a potential scumtell), yet not strongly enough to prefer him over ofrhz/xyzzy.

To me it's not really a scumtell outside of the bad faith read on my slot in a meta where he has like a near 100% read rate on me - it's the lack of towntells
(And tbh I should start going thru and building a towncore for myself , I have been too distracted lmao)

I don't have towntells don't be ridiculous

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ofc my read on you isnt bad faith

also p wild you would claim that scum!pooky would shitpush town!koba right away in d1 when like i'd probly just chill and stick you in my pocket like a torpedo and fire you out at unsuspecting cruise liners

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

one of us could die any second now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if Ranger and Koba are scum together I can 100% guarantee that Ranger was not complicit in that scum theatre rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont really care i'm even willing to get flipped first this game if I get a commitment from the pl to deadsheep me on my kill list

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yeah this one can agree with a lack of (genuine) solving from Pooky. The main thing it can elaborate on that's worth anything is that some of his posts felt very opportunistic during the thing with me/Ranger/Koba, alongside some really minor meta shit like "wow Pooky is posting very frequently compared to these other random games" but that's almost certainly NAI, but it still stands out just a little. Pooky certainly seems to be a consistent sillyposter in games, though, so it's hard to get a read on em even with what minor meta this one looked at.

well how about I put down 4 names and you put down 4 names and we compare lists to see who had more scum in their list at the end of the game?

curious to see how my half assed barely trying scumhunting measures up against your "genuine scumhunting"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

:scummy hand wave:

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

https://www.mlb.com/player/tommy-edman-669242

47/2047 = 2% chance per at bat

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: blue snake

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the onlu reason i have stopped pushing koba is because i realized that if koba is mafia then making them play nightless is way more torture than yeeting them d1 :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you have like no endurance as scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

But Koba has been flailing literally from their first post maybe we should put them out of their misery lmao sorry Koba but it doesn't look good imo

Spoiler: DkKoba this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

when did I townread alisae r u high

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also how is blue snek the towniest slot rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if i ever make a readlist this game I hope tommy edman delivers me to center right field

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also how is blue snek the towniest slot rofl

how are they not bud, you do a lot of accusing, and very little explaining.

nuance is just a word

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

they have super nuanced posting that doesnt come from scum, pretty easy to see from their posting to me.

the only way you could have a confident townread on bluesnek is if you had TMI

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

when did I townread alisae r u high

kinda an implicit townread based on how youre treating the slot

kinda worse u dont even have a read there lmfao

I didnt bother to read alisae because I dont care

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This isn't an Ace Attorney game. We can't catch scum by just pointing out contradictions. In fact, scum creating a fake case on someone else would provably be more careful than a townie speaking their honest thoughts.

Koba picking an old game to analyze is at worst NAI.

Koba's reaction to being cornered and outnumbered was to get frustated and argue in circles, which is understandable. Ranger said at some point that Koba looks "argumentative, not frustrated". I disagree with this completely. Koba's side of the argument was heated from really early.

I was going to suspect Ranger, but her flaking out of her suspicion on Koba took me off guard. She was the main driving force of Koba's wagon, and I struggle to find a good reason why she would jump off. If a long time had passed since the start of the argument I could understand, but most of it happened overnight and most people weren't even on.

I doubt Koba and Ranger are scum together. The meta reason was too elaborated to be faked. And they walked out of the debate practically buddies, which is bad theater.

bluesnakelet do you have any scum reads

I'm not confident in it, but if I had to choose one it would be Happy. He posted a moderate amount of posts while saying nothing about the game.

is there a reason you aren't voting right now, blue

You mean, for Happy? He's barely in the game.

If he continues not saying anything, he'll just get executed as a hostage. If he doesn't die, then I'll have a real reason to vote for him.

is there a reason you aren't voting right now, blue

You mean, for Happy? He's barely in the game.

If he continues not saying anything, he'll just get executed as a hostage. If he doesn't die, then I'll have a real reason to vote for him.

Well this is terrible.

Why so certain they will be killed by Schadd?

I'm not. If he is really scum, then he wont be.killed by Schadd.

is there a reason you aren't voting right now, blue

You mean, for Happy? He's barely in the game.

If he continues not saying anything, he'll just get executed as a hostage. If he doesn't die, then I'll have a real reason to vote for him.

I mean, for anyone

Are any of the wagons enticing to you? You haven't said anything about ofrhz I don't think

I haven't payed any attention to ofrhz so far.

Ok, I paid attention to ofrhz. Mostly the things It's Highness pointed out in #472.

I read Ranger and ofrhz combined ISOs. From #15 to #91 it's all Ranger (including her readlists). From #97 to #112 it's all ofrhz talking about things other than Ranger. The next post from either of them is ofrhz's "serious" vote on Ranger, which he later explains was because of Ranger's readlists.

I agree, this development makes 0 sense. ofrhz voted without a reason, and then invented a reason when questioned.

VOTE: ofrhz

Oh no! I might get killed as a hostage! Obligatory shitpost coming up.
hello
Bluesnakelet
what do ya want from me

Well... For starters, you may coment on the Koba VS Ranger dabate or it's immediate fallout. That'd put you up to speed.

i dunno mate half the iso is pretty transparently town to me, is lowposting a crime?

gonna be hilarious if bluesnek flips mafia then hehehe

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

r u going to then claim theres NO WAY you would shield a teammate in nightless rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

stop staring in the mirror koba you're getting confused lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm ngl this is entertaining as fuck

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

better than baseball for sure

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

koba who tried to guilt trip me for taking this meme game too seriously is now calling me scum for not taking this game seriously

do you get frequent flier miles too buddy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dunno you kind of look like a flailing omgus machine rn

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i didnt expect a joke push on d1 to send you into antispew autoflail mode ngl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe the person who has some level of success reading slots like enchant and NM while others cry that it is "unreadable because troll" actually finds ways to read any slot

truly the pinnacle of scumhunting

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also wild that i give my own evidence why i find bluesnek town and all youre like is "how do you find that slot town" while having 0 reasons stated to find it scummy. havent seen a single explaination on why the slot *is* scummy

i found your evidence laughably unconvincing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

at least koba is hilarious so I guess we keep them around for the lulz

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you mean I tunnel them right off the bat and offer them a bop just like i'm doing to you

great example

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't really care about your read on me because

(1) if you ever elim me then town will see i'm town and probably deadsheep me and kill you next and trading 1 for 1 is fine in nightless
(2) if the town doesnt they deserve to lose and i wont care either lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

but it is entertaining to watch you flail tho

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

town pooky is NEVER this narrowminded in a game, especially when he has so many slots he can sort. dude is shallower than a dry puddle, and if you dont believe me, go through his iso, and prove me wrong.

mmhmm

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: koba

my only goal in this game is to somehow get to be the first person to be knocked out of the park by my boy Tommy Edman come hell or high water

I'm not going to give reads on anyone

its almost like I said I was going to do this :eyeroll:

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if anything this is actually p townie because scum want to look townie so people dont ask why the hell they haven't been hit by a home run but I'm town so I don't give a shit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"scum want to look townie" like youre doing now by trying to justify your play as townie?

no cuz schadd is the only person deciding who is scummy or not when he tommy edmans someone and this line of reasoning doesnt work with him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no as scum i would make a lot of reads and some amount of effort so i can have plausible denialbility about why i havent been homered

as town i am playing to get modkilled for the lulz

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no as scum i would make a lot of reads and some amount of effort so i can have plausible denialbility about why i havent been homered

as town i am playing to get modkilled for the lulz

so very convincing as you continue to defend yourself.

I enjoy refuting your nonsense :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

GOTCHAS ARE THE WORST FUCKING WAY TO FIND SCUM IF U ARE TOWN. i will NOT play ur stupid game

have you read your iso rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gonna be real neither drew nor pooky is arguing @ koba with even a SHRED of good faith at this point. this is like solely to fuck with them and its kind of dickish imho lmao

I am responding to koba's bad faith with my own bad faith because i find it hilarious

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

GOTCHAS ARE THE WORST FUCKING WAY TO FIND SCUM IF U ARE TOWN. i will NOT play ur stupid game

have you read your iso rofl

quote a single gotcha i made

^

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gonna be real neither drew nor pooky is arguing @ koba with even a SHRED of good faith at this point. this is like solely to fuck with them and its kind of dickish imho lmao

I am responding to koba's bad faith with my own bad faith because i find it hilarious

town you would know youre making the game unfun for me and not do this, unless youre actually just like an asshole and im just now learning you disgustingly think others suffering is funny

what r u even talking about

who is pushing who here?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

r u trying to say i'm a town asshole because I'm misreading you?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like wtf even is your point?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like i think you're mafia and you're treating me in bad faith so i'm responding to you with bad faith

so if i'm town, i'm misreading you

but i'm not an asshole because I believe you're mafia

i'd only be an asshole if i'm town and i believe you're town and I'm trolling you for fun

I do not believe you're town in fact my legacy is to yeet you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like i think you're mafia and you're treating me in bad faith so i'm responding to you with bad faith

so if i'm town, i'm misreading you

but i'm not an asshole because I believe you're mafia

i'd only be an asshole if i'm town and i believe you're town and I'm trolling you for fun

I do not believe you're town in fact my legacy is to yeet you

ur pushing me in an incredibly assholey way that is intended to make me emotionally respond bc you know i look scummy to average level players when im upset.

in the context of a game of mafia saying someone is mafia is not being an asshole to them

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if anyone is being an asshole its you since you've decided to accuse me of being a trust teller or whatever

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and bringing up random games and claiming I rage quit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like i think you're mafia and you're treating me in bad faith so i'm responding to you with bad faith

so if i'm town, i'm misreading you

but i'm not an asshole because I believe you're mafia

i'd only be an asshole if i'm town and i believe you're town and I'm trolling you for fun

I do not believe you're town in fact my legacy is to yeet you

ur pushing me in an incredibly assholey way that is intended to make me emotionally respond bc you know i look scummy to average level players when im upset.

in the context of a game of mafia saying someone is mafia is not being an asshole to them

Too bad this isn't the sole thing you're doing.

ok which of my posts is being an asshole to koba

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if anyone is being an asshole its you since you've decided to

accuse me of being a trust teller

or whatever

pookytell is a term that spawned out of thin air my b

literally wasnt even a rule back then but sure

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like i think you're mafia and you're treating me in bad faith so i'm responding to you with bad faith

so if i'm town, i'm misreading you

but i'm not an asshole because I believe you're mafia

i'd only be an asshole if i'm town and i believe you're town and I'm trolling you for fun

I do not believe you're town in fact my legacy is to yeet you

ur pushing me in an incredibly assholey way that is intended to make me emotionally respond bc you know i look scummy to average level players when im upset.

in the context of a game of mafia saying someone is mafia is not being an asshole to them

Too bad this isn't the sole thing you're doing.

ok which of my posts is being an asshole to koba

you are like actively gaslighting them.

ok which of my posts is "gaslighiing" koba

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like i think you're mafia and you're treating me in bad faith so i'm responding to you with bad faith

so if i'm town, i'm misreading you

but i'm not an asshole because I believe you're mafia

i'd only be an asshole if i'm town and i believe you're town and I'm trolling you for fun

I do not believe you're town in fact my legacy is to yeet you

ur pushing me in an incredibly assholey way that is intended to make me emotionally respond bc you know i look scummy to average level players when im upset.

in the context of a game of mafia saying someone is mafia is not being an asshole to them

Too bad this isn't the sole thing you're doing.

ok which of my posts is being an asshole to koba

you are like actively gaslighting them.

ok which of my posts is "gaslighiing" koba

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you going to actually come up with an example of the "gaslighting" that I'm doing supposedly

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you going to actually come up with an example of the "gaslighting" that I'm doing supposedly

how about you get some reads and then u can join the big boy table

i don't understand why you claim I'm being an asshole to you and lecture me about being more "mature" if you're going to just sling insults at me nonstop

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like this is like the nth time pooky has been accused of multiple things, he takes out 1 small aspect of it, and then twists it to make it look like the whole thing is wrong

hes just using a manipulative tactic, that yes, can be considered gaslighting.

its intentionally trying to make the person seem crazy for even having the argument as a whole in the first place. its unpleasant and i would policy the slot even if i didnt scumread it for playing like that because its insulting and disrespectful to the game

lol what

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky are you having fun talking to Koba?

well I am quite addicted to arguing with people on the internet and I don't even understand what their point is or what I've done thats supposed to be "gaslighting"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like you seem to think my behavior is unacceptable and unpleasant and insulting and disrespectful

so i asked you for an example of one post where I am doing this and to explain why it is insulting and disrespectful.

and your response is to claim that even asking you for an example is "gaslighting"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is a game

I enjoy playing this game with you

I am having fun

I don't really understand why you are so upset but if there's something I've done that you feel is outside the bounds of the game you should explain it to me so we can have a frank and honest conversation about whether it is unacceptable to behave in this way.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i reconsidered the arguments i had for ranger being scum, and realized they werent good arguments and had good reasons to find them town, thats mafia 101, i would call myself a bad player if i just tunneled 100% with no evaluation, thats for 2020 noob koba

like its not the own you think it is ROFL

Nah, you kept wanting to pivot onto Pooky......you even kept wanting to keep pushing Ranger until you felt it was a lost cause.

And you literally are tunneling Pooky right now.

lil bro thinks having an active argument with someone in real time is tunneling

do you have an example of me gaslighting?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i keep asking you because i find the term gaslighting pretty insulting so if you're going to accuse me of gaslighting koba I'd like to see what you're talking about

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like I assume you read a post of mine

decided hey that's pretty bad gaslighting

and then claimed that I'm gaslighting koba because of that post

but i've asked you like four times for an example and you still haven't given me one

so I guess you're just scum and instigating?

VOTE: HPE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

which i guess would make koba town if HPE flips mafia which would be useful info :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

koba isnt tunneling because koba's voted for like 11 slots already and accused four people who disagreed with them of being mafia for disagreeing with them

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i reconsidered the arguments i had for ranger being scum, and realized they werent good arguments and had good reasons to find them town, thats mafia 101, i would call myself a bad player if i just tunneled 100% with no evaluation, thats for 2020 noob koba

like its not the own you think it is ROFL

Nah, you kept wanting to pivot onto Pooky......you even kept wanting to keep pushing Ranger until you felt it was a lost cause.

And you literally are tunneling Pooky right now.

lil bro thinks having an active argument with someone in real time is tunneling

Literally explain how Koba isn't tunneling.

Because you didn't call their spat with Ranger tunneling.

do you have an example of me gaslighting

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

fifth time im asking you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

just because ranger is not complicit doesnt mean they're not mafia together

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

fifth time im asking you

this one expects you to just brush me off and go "lol no im not being an asshole" but fine heres my personal top 5 (not in any particular order) pooky rat bastard moments, in general. tired of thinking about this

GOTCHAS ARE THE WORST FUCKING WAY TO FIND SCUM IF U ARE TOWN. i will NOT play ur stupid game

have you read your iso rofl

GOTCHAS ARE THE WORST FUCKING WAY TO FIND SCUM IF U ARE TOWN. i will NOT play ur stupid game

have you read your iso rofl

quote a single gotcha i made

^

gonna be real neither drew nor pooky is arguing @ koba with even a SHRED of good faith at this point. this is like solely to fuck with them and its kind of dickish imho lmao

I am responding to koba's bad faith with my own bad faith because i find it hilarious

town you would know youre making the game unfun for me and not do this, unless youre actually just like an asshole and im just now learning you disgustingly think others suffering is funny

what r u even talking about

who is pushing who here?

like i think you're mafia and you're treating me in bad faith so i'm responding to you with bad faith

so if i'm town, i'm misreading you

but i'm not an asshole because I believe you're mafia

i'd only be an asshole if i'm town and i believe you're town and I'm trolling you for fun

I do not believe you're town in fact my legacy is to yeet you

ur pushing me in an incredibly assholey way that is intended to make me emotionally respond bc you know i look scummy to average level players when im upset.

in the context of a game of mafia saying someone is mafia is not being an asshole to them

if anyone is being an asshole its you since you've decided to

accuse me of being a trust teller

or whatever

pookytell is a term that spawned out of thin air my b

literally wasnt even a rule back then but sure

pick a single one of these posts and explain how I am a "rat bastard" who is "gaslighting" koba

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my brain is just fried and my shower is overdue. going to wait for the cavalry (read: ranger and mush) to arrive and actually bring some more critical thinking to the table.

accusing someone of being a "rat bastard" "gaslighter" and then refusing to explain why is kind of ??? to me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Willing to bet good money on atleast 2 scum in ofrhz/Pooky/Alisae/Drew, but for my sanity this one is gonna just go and take it's shower and relax for the rest of the night. Toodle-oo

explain your insult of me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

btw this is the dictionary definition of what you're accusing me of

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaslighting

so please explain in the context of a mafia game how I am doing that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@DkKoba. this is the most serious post I am going to make at you for the entirety of this game so you should read it and respond to it. I promise everything in it is the truth because it is completely divorced from my alignment and I would feel the exact same way if I were actually mafia here.

You have accused me of being an "asshole"1024, you have accused me of "gaslighting"1063, you have accused me of being a cheater677, you have accused me of being a sadist "1024.

I don't know what the point of these insults is but they're all kind of unacceptable to me because they are accusations about character and cheating that fall outside the scope of this game. I would appreciate if you did not make such accusations of anyone here but I can't regulate your behavior.

If some things that I have done this game are similarly unacceptable to you, I would appreciate if you simply quote them and explain why so I can avoid doing them in the future.

I joined this game because I wanted to have fun playing mafia with you as well as several other friends in this game. I do not have the intention of causing your harm in any way. I am appalled that you think I would do this.

This is first and foremost for me a game that I play for fun and entertainment. I generally do not take such things very seriously because I don't enjoy being serious. When you accuse me of purposefully inflicting harm upon you, I am taking that accusation at face value because I don't think you would lie about that. I have never intended to cause harm or pain to you or anyone in this game or any game that I have ever played. Games are about fun for me, I have enough stress in real life as it is.

I have always considered you a friend and will continue to do so in the future.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I feel like there's enough concentrated scumminess in Koba/HPE that there's always a scum flip there

I think I'd have a better grasp of Pooky if his ISO wasn't just composed of these dreadful back and forths

You think my interaction with HPE and Koba could be scum theatre?

because like if one of those two is mafia there's pretty much no world in which I'm mafia with one of them.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like I don't know if you can tell but by the end of last night I was livid because of the vast accumulation of insults thrown my way

that post where HPE accused me of being a "pig bastard" who is "gaslighting" koba was a real doozy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok so you don't think there is definitely one mafia in HPE/Koba

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok and what do you want for that?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this game was hilarious congrats on the win thanks for modding schadd

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

too true

im 99% sure if we ever play together and you're actually mafia you'd be my top townread :3