Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[Alisae]

lazy game!!!

[Alisae]

first

[Alisae]

my gif is funnier i win bye bye

[Alisae]

Anyway, I kind of want to vote Save the Dragons, I really want to be able to say "I haven't played since before any living player joined". Can we make that happen?

did you intentionally not vote std?

[Alisae]

I have a cop result on Anix, his username is red
VOTE: Anix

[Alisae]

VOTE: Ranger

[Alisae]

Ranger and Aureal are dying by fire this game

[Alisae]

I am in the camp of Ranger is lying.
Here is my evidence

[Alisae]

do you have a meta page for me

here is my meta page for you:

[Alisae]

Can I get a tl;dr on that graphic

the tl;dr is read the graphic

[Alisae]

don't ever let me catch you asking for a tl;dr in a mafia game again

[Alisae]

Alisae can I get a tl;dr about your red PM?

i laughed out loud irl

[Alisae]

Alisae can I get a tl;dr about your red PM?

OMG OMG OMG OMG

[Alisae]

Aureal I got a read pm too!!!!!!

[Alisae]

Red*

[Alisae]

83 is me realizing what Aureal is talking about

[Alisae]

I see a lot of OUT OF GAME references to Ranger lying, I'm assuming it is some sort of meme about Ranger/millers.

Nah. I've picked up a bad habit of lying in claims recently. I don't know why people think I'd be lying immediately though. Past lies were given only when I was pressured into claiming by circumstances.

Girl who cried wolf.
I mean with me I just smell it.

tbh you could be truthful and you could be lying. With you, a miller claim isn't going to clear you, you know this.

I think voting you for lying is excellent start to the game regardless of what your alignment actually is.

[Alisae]

AniX has been given a day pass for Columbo posting.

[Alisae]

With you, a miller claim isn't going to clear you, you know this.

Naturally. If I know it doesn't clear me, then why the focus on it though?

idrc too much tbh
again i just think given the context of the moment this is fine

[Alisae]

I mandella effected i thought xyzzy used their ooc formatting for role pms.

[Alisae]

brb screaming

[Alisae]

Internets out that’s lame
Ig I’ll play mafia on mobile since I can’t do much else :/

[Alisae]

Std town
Cook town
Aureal town

Katy probably town, def easier to read later since new player
Koba probably town

[Alisae]

Voting powers restricted like skygazers are really bad to give to mafia. I would probs go out of my way to say it’s detrimental.
That’s probably not mafia?

[Alisae]

not reading lol it's my bed time but i typed this up ahead of time

i can (actually, must) give people control of my vote on even days. please fill out this application (only if you want...) and i will grant my vote to the towniest applicant. some of these questions are relevant to another aspect of my role and some are red herrings.

1) hypothetically, if you have a night action, would you prefer aiming at town, null, or scum? if you don't have a night action please don't out that and just pick what speaks to you so as to not divulge info. before you accuse me of rolefishing please keep in mind everyone is free to disregard this questionaire.
2) if i had control over *your* vote, would you be okay with me disregarding your opinions? i mean i'll generally only be donating my vote to people i townread, but that doesnt mean i'll agree with your reads. and if i'm relinquishing control, it's only fair for you to relinquish something in return!
3) if you could form a neighborhood with two other players on night one, who would you pick?
4) what is your level of spice tolerance? (this one is definitely just a fun red herring)

i look forward to your applications! i feel like my role is more antitown if i go about it privately. i'll reiterate that i can't vote on even days so prepare for some shitposts.

This makes me trust Skygazer because my role is equally kooky (I will not at this time explain why) so I suspect there was mod collusion on kookiness.

1. Hypothetically, it would depend on what my hypothetical role is, wouldn't it?
2. At this point, yes, as explained above.
3. You, as aformentioned, and Ranger (I guess!) as the only two semi-claimed roles and both whom I suspect have some level of wacky.
4. I don't eat enough spicy food to know because I only eat one meal a day so I only get 1/3 less chances to eat than most people

Why r u answering this?

[Alisae]

not reading lol it's my bed time but i typed this up ahead of time

i can (actually, must) give people control of my vote on even days. please fill out this application (only if you want...) and i will grant my vote to the towniest applicant. some of these questions are relevant to another aspect of my role and some are red herrings.

1) hypothetically, if you have a night action, would you prefer aiming at town, null, or scum? if you don't have a night action please don't out that and just pick what speaks to you so as to not divulge info. before you accuse me of rolefishing please keep in mind everyone is free to disregard this questionaire.
2) if i had control over *your* vote, would you be okay with me disregarding your opinions? i mean i'll generally only be donating my vote to people i townread, but that doesnt mean i'll agree with your reads. and if i'm relinquishing control, it's only fair for you to relinquish something in return!
3) if you could form a neighborhood with two other players on night one, who would you pick?
4) what is your level of spice tolerance? (this one is definitely just a fun red herring)

i look forward to your applications! i feel like my role is more antitown if i go about it privately. i'll reiterate that i can't vote on even days so prepare for some shitposts.

This makes me trust Skygazer because my role is equally kooky (I will not at this time explain why) so I suspect there was mod collusion on kookiness.

1. Hypothetically, it would depend on what my hypothetical role is, wouldn't it?
2. At this point, yes, as explained above.
3. You, as aformentioned, and Ranger (I guess!) as the only two semi-claimed roles and both whom I suspect have some level of wacky.
4. I don't eat enough spicy food to know because I only eat one meal a day so I only get 1/3 less chances to eat than most people

Why r u answering this?

directed to anix specifically? or is that a general ask on why people are answering skygazer's questions

To anix

[Alisae]

Ranger
AniX
Skygazer
Cook
JasonWazza
DragonEater70
JasonWazza
DkKoba
Save The Dragons

These are my reads so far. If your name isn't present it means you didn't leave an impression.

I am actually scumreading STD.

VOTE: STD

oh no
bingle is mafia
its cuz he has jason listed twice

[Alisae]

not reading lol it's my bed time but i typed this up ahead of time

i can (actually, must) give people control of my vote on even days. please fill out this application (only if you want...) and i will grant my vote to the towniest applicant. some of these questions are relevant to another aspect of my role and some are red herrings.

1) hypothetically, if you have a night action, would you prefer aiming at town, null, or scum? if you don't have a night action please don't out that and just pick what speaks to you so as to not divulge info. before you accuse me of rolefishing please keep in mind everyone is free to disregard this questionaire.
2) if i had control over *your* vote, would you be okay with me disregarding your opinions? i mean i'll generally only be donating my vote to people i townread, but that doesnt mean i'll agree with your reads. and if i'm relinquishing control, it's only fair for you to relinquish something in return!
3) if you could form a neighborhood with two other players on night one, who would you pick?
4) what is your level of spice tolerance? (this one is definitely just a fun red herring)

i look forward to your applications! i feel like my role is more antitown if i go about it privately. i'll reiterate that i can't vote on even days so prepare for some shitposts.

This makes me trust Skygazer because my role is equally kooky (I will not at this time explain why) so I suspect there was mod collusion on kookiness.

1. Hypothetically, it would depend on what my hypothetical role is, wouldn't it?
2. At this point, yes, as explained above.
3. You, as aformentioned, and Ranger (I guess!) as the only two semi-claimed roles and both whom I suspect have some level of wacky.
4. I don't eat enough spicy food to know because I only eat one meal a day so I only get 1/3 less chances to eat than most people

Why r u answering this?

Because especially in a game like this, any or all requests could be a trigger for an ability or power. At this juncture, I do not believe mafia would begin by putting a focus on themselves by becoming the most high profile requester.

I don't think you really have any business trying to become a doublevoter if you are considering yourself to be a newbie

[Alisae]

How convenient that Weird Dreams Mafia seems to have a joke to cover every single suspicious thing a user has done today. Truly the swiss army knife of games. All of this setting aside that a list mod making one or more abilities off this game that everyone seems to know about already would be perfectly mundane. Hell, I would say it would even be expected.

I am very comfortable with where my vote is right now. Either you haven't been reading the game (sus) and thus didn't know to be careful with post triggers or your post triggers on Hurt.

Have you considered that your logic isn't alignment indicative?

[Alisae]

I wanna flip Bingle tbh

[Alisae]

VOTE: Bingle
I'll probably also vote Anix

[Alisae]

I am a newbie to any or all specific elements and jargon that has emerged since 2005 and I wanted to warn people that I would not be playing in a very "modern" way. I am not a newbie to the basic tenets and calculations of Mafia such that I would not understand the costs, benefits, and risks of having and using two votes.

u r not answering that questionnaire for honest reasons.

[Alisae]

I feel like I've seen scum bingle not make a single joke and in this game jokes are literally pouring out of every orifice

I'm not sure what to make of it ultimately but I did tr bingle for it

nah they're mafia w/ anix

[Alisae]

reading boring
murder fun

[Alisae]

I think Cook spiritually vibes w/ me

[Alisae]

if anix mafia we got a towncore of StD, you, me, cook, and dragoneater ez game

you should be adding aureal, katy, and probably skygazer to that townbloc

[Alisae]

Koba I'm not going to be reading dragoneater's posts until I have to.
Nothing personal, guy just gives me a headache. Reminds me of playing w/ Math and nancy drew in a way.

It's like what

std ali koba aureal cook
dragoneater
ranger skygazer katy
everyone else (drew nurse

@XYZZY PLZ UPDATE YOUR OP WITH REPLACEMENTS) jason theta ircher)
anix bingle

[Alisae]

if anix mafia we got a towncore of StD, you, me, cook, and dragoneater ez game

you should be adding aureal, katy, and probably skygazer to that townbloc

im kinda on the fence on skygazer being town at all, idk about Katy yet(honestly leaned mafia on that slot mostly but i had bigger fish to look at), aureal maybe but idt they reach the bar for towncore yet

none of these players are being voted d1 so /shrug

[Alisae]

also lmao i forgot to close my bold tags but i also don't rly care sry xyzzy

[Alisae]

ya katy aureal dragon all def bleed town the longer game goes on
skygazer is a bit more tricky but they're not being voted d1 so I'm happy calling them town for now!

[Alisae]

ranger's idea of massclaim is probably town motivated?

[Alisae]

what if the game is just nurse jason anix bingle?

[Alisae]

AniX if you Columbo post some more, my desire to vote you will decrease.
pretty plz <3

[Alisae]

Ranger
Alisae
AniX
Alisae
Skygazer
Alisae
Cook
Alisae
JasonWazza
Alisae
DragonEater70
Alisae
JasonWazza
Alisae
DkKoba
Alisae
Save The Dragons
Furret

These are my reads so far. If your name isn't present it means you didn't leave an impression.

I am actually scumreading STD.

VOTE: STD

oh no
bingle is mafia
its cuz he has jason listed twice

Sorry, fixed that for you.

[Alisae]

Ali, that's not an M&M.

[Alisae]

Will I put this knowledge of their scum and town game to good use? Probably not!

no im crazy hard to read and my range is infinite.

u can be town for being honest tho

[Alisae]

std ali koba aureal cook
dragoneater
ranger skygazer katy drew
theta
snivy nurse jason ircher
anix bingle

[Alisae]

nurse jason anix bingle team lookin very realistic.

[Alisae]

Will I put this knowledge of their scum and town game to good use? Probably not!

no im crazy hard to read and my range is infinite.

u can be town for being honest tho

You town bro?



Pre Edit: Why Jason though? They seem to have gone bye bye

ya
tbh when i am town i play town and when i am mafia i play mafia

its an educated guess

[Alisae]

Voting powers restricted like skygazers are really bad to give to mafia. I would probs go out of my way to say it’s detrimental.
That’s probably not mafia?

Ali, how much of this is Stellaris? Also, how much faith would you put in this?

Stellaris is ancient history to me
I just think if you look the vote at a fundamental level and what making someone a doublevoter does, what taking away someone's vote does, how all of these can impact a game.
Seems like a terrible ability to give to mafia.

[Alisae]

skygazer is tricky but I think if they're town I can see it and that's what I care about

[Alisae]

they started game townie

[Alisae]

DragonEater: Hurt Tag usage as power activator

what is this even based on

[Alisae]

i mean i don't rly think I have a reason to particularly hate nurse first post but sure
VOTE: nurse

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

me & koba this game

[Alisae]

1 - So like, this is a posting style

2 - Can we not with this?

3 - Like who is clicking these post buttons? Anyone?

5 - I understand that mostly when people do this, they're more so doing this for themselves over thinking it's actually going to get them townread

8 - wait what happened to post 6 and 4 and why is this before the 7???????

7 - And that's completely acceptable

[potst]11[/post] - VOTE: Anix

13 - 13 reasons why this post is cringe

21 - But catching up posts are lame and reading while posting nothing or not posting unless you have a question to ask that doesn't get answered in the next 10 posts or so is good

55 - WOW THIS POST IS INCREDIBLE

42 - but posting a summary post of what you tookaway (or everything that you want to post that is) is going to be a lot more effective for other players than whatever this is. You will find this to be your answer to life the universe and everything

69 - Hey Mafia if you shoot Bingle you can kill me too because we are L O V E R S

96 - This means K O B A is NOT my LOVER I H A T E them THEY FAKED A SCUMREAD ON ME IN A MAFIA GAME UNBELIEVABLE

118 - Bro I have to be up in at noon I have to go to bed bro I should probably wrap this post up

326 - I mashed numbers for this entry

420 - I got a vape as a gift bro that's pog

6 - oh here's where the 6 is!

66 - wait a minute, I didn't realize there were this many 6s down here wow!

666 - mommy I'm scared hold me

1001 - 1001 stories that explain this post being cringe

99 - ya this post is definitely cringe

[Alisae]

I am exaggerating for the sake of shitposting but multiquoting is a really cool feature

gnight

[Alisae]

It’s better because I don’t have to click a post just to see what the fuck it is you are referring too

[Alisae]

Like if u want people to engage with ur post it’s better to multiquote, but if ur talking about a post, or taking notes, u could do what I’m making fun of instead. Tho if ur doing that posting style, ur probably doing it more for urself than the table

[Alisae]

This is me not voting drew

[Alisae]

I’m a rebel

[Alisae]

Rebel rebel, ur dress is a mess

[Alisae]

@alisae lmk thoughts if you think I'm right about the theater stuff if u know what I'm seeing in the last few pages

i have 2 replies to this
one of them is the truth the other is a lie

1 - I'm blind so I don't see anything
2 - ya I know EXACTLY what it is you're talking about ya those guys are FUCKED lets let em know we know who they are as this will allow us to effectively strike fear into their souls

[Alisae]

I think drew is town

[Alisae]

Ranger
Alisae
AniX
Alisae
Skygazer
Alisae
Cook
Alisae
JasonWazza
Alisae
DragonEater70
Alisae
JasonWazza
Alisae
DkKoba
Alisae
Save The Dragons
Furret

These are my reads so far. If your name isn't present it means you didn't leave an impression.

I am actually scumreading STD.

VOTE: STD

oh no
bingle is mafia
its cuz he has jason listed twice

Sorry, fixed that for you.

I just realized this is(I believe) the first game with Ali where I don't know their alignment.

Will I put this knowledge of their scum and town game to good use? Probably not!

But exciting at the very least.

I

Drew

kinda feel I could figure them out as town though.

Pre Edit:

Could wolves write this post?
Probably
I think it’s being written by town tho

[Alisae]

I think drew is town

who r ur top townreads and bottom scumreads atp, like most confident reads in both directions

my reads haven't changed much since I last posted them

Ranger
Alisae
AniX
Alisae
Skygazer
Alisae
Cook
Alisae
JasonWazza
Alisae
DragonEater70
Alisae
JasonWazza
Alisae
DkKoba
Alisae
Save The Dragons
Furret

These are my reads so far. If your name isn't present it means you didn't leave an impression.

I am actually scumreading STD.

VOTE: STD

oh no
bingle is mafia
its cuz he has jason listed twice

Sorry, fixed that for you.

I just realized this is(I believe) the first game with Ali where I don't know their alignment.

Will I put this knowledge of their scum and town game to good use? Probably not!

But exciting at the very least.

I

Drew

kinda feel I could figure them out as town though.

Pre Edit:

Could wolves write this post?
Probably
I think it’s being written by town tho

u know that usually when someone says "its the first time that X" it implies that they r mafia in this situation right

no I don't know that and I don't think that's extremely reliable.

[Alisae]

I'm still satisfied voting Koba here. Dragons would also make a good fade.

Yellow m and m

here is your requested yellow mnm

[Alisae]

I see how it is

[Alisae]

Bingle right now

[Alisae]

My ability can only be activated if I post mad turtle and mnms

[Alisae]

I disagree

[Alisae]

I disagree

let's see some "go into depth" alisae on this topic that I saw in garlic bread mafia

Lazy game

[Alisae]

let cook cook

[Alisae]

Fenrir say no guys

[Alisae]

yeeeeeeeeeeees talk about me moooooooooooore

[Alisae]

this is the moment I've been waiting for baby!!!!!!

[Alisae]

I think Aureal is a good player,

lmao

[Alisae]

I like aureal but I think she can’t read me and idrc about her arguments for the push if anything it works in my favor

[Alisae]

Ya bro
I can’t even bother with reading ur posts.
I could never

[Alisae]

@Ranger

- Do you think there are roles that would benefit from being hidden and not claimed d1 in this game? Additionally, do you think the benefits of massclaim outweigh the benefits of those roles staying hidden?

[Alisae]

lazy game!!!

Ranger and Aureal are dying by fire this game

I am an arsonist.
I mark 1 target a night. I can mark 2 targets max.
I can kill all marked targets once per game.

[Alisae]

bro ircher
extra kp if I am mafia is not being claimed.
I am in a perfect position where I can just ignore the massclaim and let ranger continue to talk to themselves.
What are they going to do, vote me out of the game before I get value out of my role?
oh no
and tbh that's probably even a win for me tbh unless I got the dream team but then I'm winning ANYWAYS so HAH

[Alisae]

ok no one is arguing against mass claim

im a baker i can give out baked goods 3 times to people

they can eat the baked goods which essentially roleblocks them SPOILER ALERT!!

people can also pass the baked goods at night

If you hadn't claimed, would your targets had known the goods role blocked them? It feels like claiming your role loses all its utility because now no one will eat them.

he actually mentioned this earlier in their posting
They’re probably townie for it

Anyway, it looks like we are mass claiming, so my ability is a day action, but it's effects occur during the night and following day. I can create a neighborhood with a player to speak with for one night, but I lose my vote on the following day.

Interesting
I also sky didn’t fully claim their role
Very interesting
Maybe sky can be mafia esp if ircher is town
Those 2 roles sound like they were crafted by the same person.

[Alisae]

VOTE: skygaer

[Alisae]

Skygazer full claim is def sus that’s what I wanna vote

[Alisae]

actually now that i think about it massclaiming ruins the only fun my role gives

@Ranger

- Do you think there are roles that would benefit from being hidden and not claimed d1 in this game? Additionally, do you think the benefits of massclaim outweigh the benefits of those roles staying hidden?

my role might benefit from being hidden d1 but i dont trust myself enough to not out it on massclaim

ok no one is arguing against mass claim

im a baker i can give out baked goods 3 times to people

they can eat the baked goods which essentially roleblocks them SPOILER ALERT!!

people can also pass the baked goods at night

Ig the last 2 are back to back but it seems townie?

[Alisae]

Weak reasons on d1 on a slot I’m most likely not voting unless I have a good reason to vote are fine.
I don’t think that posting is what wolves actually do.

[Alisae]

I’m in bed I’m not posting reads right now not much changed since my last one
I actually just came back on to UNVOTE: because I can just mark skygazer and burn them if they ever do something they’re not supposed to do

[Alisae]

i mean my role is literally proscum if i go about it blind hence the survey

its okay because I'll just leash you and if you don't do what I say I'll burn you alive so its fine

[Alisae]

Your funeral

[Alisae]

If u target someone who has a night action for u to control you get burned

[Alisae]

I don’t think u can stop me from marking u tonight into burning you.
Heck I don’t think u can control if I mark or burn

[Alisae]

Koba doesn’t have a night action and they’re great to give a 2nd vote to
Target them

[Alisae]

Role sounds wolf indicative and ur vote history is not great

[Alisae]

If u target someone who has a night action for u to control you get burned

This is objectively what is best for me from my pov

[Alisae]

I technically don’t have to let me do anything
If I disapprove of ur target, ur dead.

[Alisae]

If u were town u would use ur controlling their action to threaten mafia.
This is not how u played ur role.

So ya, even if ur a village, I’m happy to burn you.

[Alisae]

I am pretty sure Jason siteflaked?

[Alisae]

dragoneater bro don't talk to me

[Alisae]

dragoneater bro don't talk to me

Wha-? Did I say something wrong?

its not personal bro
idunno how to explain it but your posting agitates me. Rarely does it add anything new

[Alisae]

Did Ranger ever fullclaim?

Not yet. Paraphrasing from a phone is painful. I'd prefer to wait until I have a computer and the time.

I’ll at least share the basic though.
I remove all passives and modifiers from my target. As I said: a

direct

counter to Cook's role, as well as a role which would bypass the limitations on Theta Alpine's role. All it’d take for Theta Alpine to treestump town is my removal of her modifier.

Thus my skepticism of both.

As I said, I’ll fullclaim when I’ve the ability to properly paraphrase.

DGB TELL GUYS
PARAPHRASING TAKES SECONDS GUY
FABRICATING TAKES AN ETERNITY
STALLING
T
A
L
L
I
N
G

[Alisae]

LOL

[Alisae]

AUREAL <3

[Alisae]

I want to locktown PC

[Alisae]

he cc'd ranger bro this guy has no idea what is going on he is not apart of the informed minority

[Alisae]

PC's catchup is a town catchup brother

[Alisae]

Writing up posts while you're catching up is overrated bro.
What you do is you read the thread, take notes mentally, and act off of that.
I feel like PC's catch-up indicated a process that looks like hunting and I think if you follow the vote it tracks

[Alisae]

Like his catch-up isn't for the thread.
It's for himself.

That's what his catch-up to me looks like.

[Alisae]

what was the goal of the cc if they werent miller though

fuck this shit about about goals bro
here is what happened
Guy sees his role pm
guy sees he is a miller
guy reads game
guy sees ranger miller claim
guy cc's and puts down a vote.

idunno bro, looks like a townie to me

[Alisae]

bro I don't even care about the redaction.
I came out of a newbie queue game where he fakeclaimed doctor as vt and was killed day 1.

It doesn't even matter because the guy should massclaim, or at least if he does not want to massclaim, he should be able to talk himself out of it (spoiler alert: he can't).
If there is a thought process, we get it then. If his posting so far indicates he has a thought process, there is probably a thought process for retracting.
He is in his own little world my guy.

It just doesn't make sense to people.
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's mafia!

[Alisae]

it sticks out way too much