Warrior Cats Mafia [Game Over!]

[NorwegianboyEE]

I know nothing about Warrior cats whatsoever. Sup.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I see you're all busy ringing the bell

[NorwegianboyEE]

(っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ Hey Datisi! ♥

[NorwegianboyEE]

So guys, i'm trying to change my font and playstyle for this game. Tell me if you like it. <3

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like datisi is scum this game.

What if it's opposite day?

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know, all of these catvatars are a bit distracting because i can't differentiate the players anymore.

[NorwegianboyEE]

always vote in big hood first

There's a big hood?

[NorwegianboyEE]

like what topics exactly, what did you agree on

I'm not sure if you're intentionally being cagey about this or not

Like maybe that's just not ur business man.

What happens in hood stays in hood.

#windtribe4ever

[NorwegianboyEE]

Omg Alisae the betrayal. You can't just show the world my feelings like that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think that’s a slight misrep of the actual situation Val.
Alisae came with leading questions after asking me if i had reads and i was very vocal about the fact that i was struggling to get into the game.
So i don’t believe this was malicious or unwarranted from Alisae.
The point about Alisae giving me a townread is fair in that i’m not sure i understand their actual reasoning, but that doesn’t mean it’s not there. Merwly that it might have been left unexplained.

[NorwegianboyEE]

There’s just 1 more in Windclan that we know of.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t want to believe Alisae is scum becauve they’ve been so helpful to me and seemed genuinely trying to solve me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It might be a bit bias just out of pure desire to want to believe you are town yeah.
But like you said, you could of just not gone out of your way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scarrdbear who is in your group that you know of?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scarrdbear who is in your group that you know of?

MARASHU, PENGUIN, CHARLOUX AND MYSELF. YOURS?

4 total? We also have 4, or at least i think we do. No idea if there’s more that haven’t checked in yet.
The 4th player hasn’t posted much so idk if we should reveal yet? Maybe give it some time to think about it.

Me / Alisae / Val / ??

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok nvm it’s unanimous.
Our 4th member is Shiro.

[NorwegianboyEE]

All your scumreads are like… people i think are town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Charloux
I think there’s been major off vibes from this slot. They’ve been involved in multiple shifty scenarios now and their responses always pinged me as weird.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mistyx, Datisi, Norweigan; What is even your goal with my wagon? Do you want me to explain my thought process for yesterday? Claim all my role details?
Explain my theory in detail? Do you want to get me to L-1 and act shocked when someone hammers?

My goal is to flip mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i appreciate mastina for putting me in my own category. i think that might be a good approach for us in general for game starts.

As long as it's not an all-game running scum theatre like last time i'm cool with it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No, I’m not referring to an absence of doubt and paranoia.
I mean their posts look like homework. They’re trying to hit what they need to complete the assignment and not a single carbohydrate more.

Reminds me of when my midterm assignment said the paper has to be 3600-4400 words and i delived a paper that was 3614 words.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What does clan leader even mean.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll elaborate on what i don't like. Give me a sec.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My goal is to get eliminated within the first page for having a dog avatar.

Task failed successfully i guess?

Am i the only one in the thunderclan, nobody posted anything yet apart from me?

I've posted in the ThunderClan PT. I don't see your post in there. Double-check that you posted in the right PT?

Would appreciate an answer to this!

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Charloux

I was just messing with him?

This for one. And your response to sussing FA felt very forced. "Sorry you don't have a sense of humor" was especially iffy response.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Fine i'll go screw myself then.
Solve the game alone since you're so awesome.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's Charloux.

Are you scum?

I'm town.

*squints*
I believe you and I have no idea why.

It's because I'm town.

Kitty's vote seems too opportunistic, just hopped on the biggest wagon quoting a random post and affirming that i'm scum.

What? I was reading through the backlog. Any vote would be that way. And that post threw off scum vibes.

Mistyx, Datisi, Norweigan; What is even your goal with my wagon? Do you want me to explain my thought process for yesterday? Claim all my role details?
Explain my theory in detail? Do you want to get me to L-1 and act shocked when someone hammers?

My goal is to flip mafia.

Is this a death miller soft?

why wouldn't i be clam?

insert shin photoshopped onto a clam

Done.

okay yeah that makes sense

i'm probably gonna tentatively lean fire town for this; while i think he is capable of faking this thought process / noticing those things as scum, i think it is more likely to come from town, so

Yeah. For me, though, his posts REALLY pinged town, by tone.

Re: The whole Norwee case
You know, I'm convinced, VOTE: Norwee.

Me and Alisae teamed is some real level 0 thinking Mastina. You’re better than that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Didn’t mean to quote that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I also don’t intend to argue with all that text. You’ll either realize you’re wrong or i can die. I don’t rly care. I signed up to play with Alisae not get stressed out by the game. That’s why i’ll keep posting all of my thoughts almost exlusively in hood.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know, i think even Val can tell you that’s dumb logic you’re coming with.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Would be crazy if Mastina was scum and sacrificed their reputation by mislimming me on D1. But i think it could work.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mainly because it’s so easy to argue: "Oh but why didn’t he play like (insert game from 1942 where i acted differently day 1 here)? Guess it was his fault we killed him"

[NorwegianboyEE]

Every game lately is like this. I try play in a way that makes me have fun and also can solve at the same time. But i always end up feeling annoyed. I didn’t even really want to sign up to this in the first place. But now i’m here and just as expected i’m first wagon. All i can do is grit my teeth and bear it. I don’t even know why i manage to continue despite feeling miserable. It’s some kind of strange stubborness that never let’s up.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i avoid reading into emotional posts on personal policy so i don't think you're going to move me with that

i've been trying to get norwee to engage with me on multiple occasions and he's ignored me so i doubt i'm moving my vote until he acknowledges my questions towards him

Your questions aren’t going to solve me or change your mind. So why should i bother answering them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes Datisi, i posted a lot of content in Windclan.
For not-Datisi eyes only hehehe.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Marashu

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Alisae is town.
Alisae thinks i am town.
Val thinks it’s really unlikely for me/Alisae team.

So what? We’re all scum saving each others ass?
Just do the math and back off.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If anyone wants to take closer look at Windclan i’m all for it. We got two members that haven’t done anything. Safe to say that i’m feeling more sus about those slots even if there is nothing concrete i got on them. But i townread the active members of my clan way more.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why did you not respond to what i said.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think it’s pretty relevant so kinda feels like u ignoring that for some reason.
And that reasoning could be AI.

[NorwegianboyEE]

[5] NorwegianboyEE: mastina, Something_Smart, Mistyx, Bell, Marashu
[1] NorwegianboyEE: KittyTacky

Who is this double imposter.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh. I’m fine killing norwe if mastina is 97.5% certain they’re scum.
VOTE: Norwe

I meant, I trust neither you nor Mastina. I dn't have to trust someone to vote with them.
Infact I almost never vote with someone because I trust them.

Lmaowhat.

[NorwegianboyEE]

.........
Let's break down the sentences.

1. I'm fine shutting down Mastina's ego if they're town and wrong. Nobody should be 97.5% confident in a read day one. AND ABSOLUTELY NOBODY SHOULD BE 100% CONFIDENT IN A READ DAY 1 Unless they have mod information. Which I won't entertain given who I'm speaking to.
2. If they're right my win condition is advanced and I'll be happy with that.

Am I leaving out that you're the best player at the table at reading Norwe? Yes. Yes I'm going to ignore that claim because there are a lot of issues I have with it. Such as:
1. You could be wrong.

Do you believe Mastina can only be town and wrong or town and right and not possible scum here?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Where.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And you bought that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you not aware that they claim mason at the start of every single game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why did you not respond to what i said.

I missed it. I often miss things, especially when I'm not quoted.

This?

I think Alisae is town.
Alisae thinks i am town.
Val thinks it’s really unlikely for me/Alisae team.

So what? We’re all scum saving each others ass?

Yes.

Just do the math and back off.

No.

Yah. Any chance for more nuanced thoughts from you would be great. Most players in my hood think your vote on me was bad. So any chance at learning more about your thoughts would be grand

[NorwegianboyEE]

1. Because I was being sarcastic and kind of not. Because I don't know if they're right or not. So it's not *entirely* fair of me to dismiss their suspicion. If that makes sense.
2. I was in a neighborhood with a player named Taly. I explained that I suspected them and thought, while emphasizing that I wasn't sure, that they were scum, Pooky asked everyone who they suspected and made a little consensus poll. Taly was the most suspected player.
Cephrir gladiated Taly. Nancydrew, Pooky, and ProfessorDrapion disagreed with the read and proceeded to hard defend Taly. No matter how much we argued it seemed like the only options they would accept was to either eliminate Cephrir or do a no elimination. They were *that* confident that Taly was town.
Taly wasn't town. You had to be there. Anyway it kind of turned me off to Alisae's approach here and I've never responded well to a player's AtE(Norwe). So that's it in a nut shell.

My town reads right now are me, Mastina, maybe Scredbear. I'm trying to remember if anyone has done anything particularly townie and I'm sort of blanking. *shrug*

I’m sorry mate but what the hell does this have to do with me? Why even bring this up? What are you THINKING?!

[NorwegianboyEE]

I could understand it if you had more, or even null read me.
But your argument for your vote seems to essentially have become: "There was this guy once, everyone thought he was town, but he was not… so maybe in this game too it could be true. Thought about that?"
Like yeah lmao, nobody should treat anyones trust as gospel. But that also don’t mean you should use disbelieving their trust as the entire reasoning behind your argument.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also you ever played with scum!Mastina before? Why do you trust them? Genuinely why?
Nothing they’ve done so far i don’t think could be faked.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve even got some very specific secret tells i’m using on Mastina, unfortunately they’ve been inactive so i don’t have enough data to say anything for sure. So i don’t see how you could reach the conclusion that they are town based on just what they’ve posted so far.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m cognizant that Norwe has done stuff since then, but I’m not sure that “won’t accept player’s reason for voting them because they have zero reason to do so as either alignment” is particularly AI.

My problem with you is that you could say this to literally anything and it would allow you to not actually explain why you vote the way you do. Like you could have voted Datisi and said "they not accepting my argument is NAI", "Mastina not accepting my argument is NAI" BLah blah blah not accepting my argument is NAI.
What does this actually say about you? It seems to me that you are just manufacturing reads and then justifying it with some logic that can be used for anything because it pretty much says nothing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norwee, do you still think marashu is scum

what do you think of kitty

I have a hard time finding trustworthy slots on my wagon at all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

mastina came into our hood and immediately locked town datisi/catboi/myself because we were vibing

idk what to make of that

When you made this post or are you talking about an earlier event?

[NorwegianboyEE]

it was when she entered the game

she has posted only a couple times in the hood since that post, val

Ask and you shall find out it was already received.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Mastina

[NorwegianboyEE]

"[5] NorwegianboyEE: mastina, Something_Smart, Mistyx, Bell, Marashu
[4] Datisi: Dannflor, Frozen Angel, NorwegianboyEE , PenguinPower"
votes at vc 1.3, I'm not sure how the bolded players jumped on the two wagons with momentum and I feel like their point of pressure might have been intentional.

I remember Bell literally voting norwee with 97% post of mastina as refrence without checking anything of norwee there. How Marashu jumped on it also felt wrong
then there are norwee and PP voting datisi after me and I don't recall how they got there which can be a bad sign cause I was just reading and catching up since there (well starting last night)

That's strange. I never voted Datisi in this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yah VC 1.2 and 1.3 has me voting Datisi even though i never did.

MOD ERROR!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alisae lost interest in Mastina for some reason im not sure i understand, but i'll revert back to my initial vote until then.

VOTE: Marashu

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can't tell if mastina has actually read and caught up or not

if she hasn't then I don't really know how she seems to know people are shading her for being in catchup mode

I think she could be scum for other reasons that has nothing to do with inactivity.

[NorwegianboyEE]

what are those reasons

I'd rather go into it after Mastina has made an catchup post and not before.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So mean...

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alisae and the white knighting stone
Alisae and the clan PT of secrets
Alisae and the prisoner of Mafia Scum
Alisae and the scumread of fire
Alisae and the order of the Thunderclan
Alisae and the half-baked argument
Alisae and the deahtly wagon

(Note this is all a joke and not indicative of my personal read on Alisae)

[NorwegianboyEE]

I am gonna come out and say that I have information about Marashu, we should not yeet them.

We do not have a lot of time left which is why I am coming out with that right no, to prevent any quick yeet.

You can neglet trusting me but it is what it is.

I am not going to disclose said information unless things become too ugly.

Alright then.
VOTE: Mastina

[NorwegianboyEE]

If my vibes agree with me today, then i shall rely less on vibes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have a question for Bell.

@Bell
How good are you at scum and do you think you could fool most town players in this room by pocketing and such?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will say that T3 feels the most underwhelming content-wise in our hood overall when comparing all players.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You’re not just an clown, you’re the entire circus.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Alisae was self-concious about having lot of abilities as scum wouldn’t they just not mention it right out from the gate?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alisae is simultaneously an scum mastermind pocketing everyone in hood but also an complete goof that forgets basic play and scumslips.

Just like propaganda through history that demonizes groups by calling them weak but also somehow in control of the entire world and dangerous.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Marashu

When Marashu flips town remember this post.

And how we could've flipped scum by voting Norwee out instead.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum would know the setup immediately from having membership in as little as two hoods. It doesn't take a genius to see a neighborhood that's "thunder clan", see a different one for a different clan, and then figure out that there's going to be four total clans. And if there's four total clans, membership would be loosely equal between them.

That, aside from the fact that the fewer are in a 'hood, the better for the theater.

My point wasn't that they wouldn't know how many were in the hood - it was that they didn't know who the audience was.

So, say you are right and I'm just a gullible little newbie who has been taken in, and I'll have a look at that game next to see if that changes my mind any, but what would have happened if say YOU had been the hidden member of Windclan?

It's not that they think "We can fool Shiro and Val", it's that if this was scum theatre, they went in thinking "we can fool ANYONE". It was well in swing before Shiidaji/T3 revealed themselves to be the other member, and before there was enough pieces in Main thread to have an idea of who was left it could be.

Let me predict their response:

"That just proves they went into the PT with the intent to fool those anonymous players. Alisae and Norwee are that good. They in fact planned for it all along."

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum clown isn't a thing.

oh come on you don't believe this

(I don't know how to respond to this without getting banned; every term I want to get would get me at minimum a warning but:)

Yes, I do.

There. is. no. such. thing. as. a. scum. clown. Clowns are specifically town, because you don't call scum clowns--you call them scum. You can call them incompetent scum. You can call them bad scum. You can call them flailing scum. You can call them laughably bad scum. You can call them all sorts of things.

But not a scum clown. That's not a thing.

Clown is, specifically, a town insult. It is insulting a player's capabilities as town by saying that they are a clown.
Players don't call scum, clown.

They can go, "you're either scum, or a clown"!
That's literally a phrase that people speak.

But they don't say "you're a clown" while THINKING someone is scum.
That's something that is a scumslip. Scum do it disproportionately often. Like, 90+% of the time, often. Genuinely one of the strongest scumtells, scumtell level of scumtell.

It's not semantics.

It's basic psychology.

You don't call someone who you think is scum, making posts that you think are bad, a clown.
You call someone who you think is scum, making posts that you think are bad, scum.
You call someone who you think is town, making posts that you think are bad, a clown.

The two do not mix. Half of one and half of the other is thus, a perspective slip.

Clown

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will say that T3 feels the most underwhelming content-wise in our hood overall when comparing all players.

They're catching up.

How do you know that is what they are doing or that’s what i meant?

[NorwegianboyEE]

reading mastina based on whether or not she is making good posts is a poor maneuver as she does not make good posts as any alignment

Tbh i think town!Mastina can make good posts. However this game she keeps pushing this awful crap without letting new information influence her which BTW is exactly the scumtell i was looking for. I repeated numerous times in our hood that what i was looking for in regards to Mastina was PROGRESSION. Scum!Mastina has this tendency to not let any arguments that disprove her theories influence her in sny way. Her reads list from first page is fucking identical to her "catchup" one for gods sake. And this is DESPITE her entire logic behind why i am scum being blatantly proved wrong. She said my inactivity was a big scumtell and i don’t think anyone with half a brain is still pushing this angle when scumreading me, not that i really am sure wtf those slots are even pushing me for anymore but they clearly have to be doing it for something else OR are struggling to come up with better reasoning.
Point is, if this was town!Mastina her reads list would have had major changes from first to recent. Here there is nothing, she is twisting the truth to suit her initial first-stage narrative. This is the most scum indicative thing Mastina could do and she’s doubling down on it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Following Mastina in her towngames is an adventure, an joirney if you will.
You see their thoughts evolve, their brainpower being put at full work and on display for all to see. It’s beautiful and freaking obvious whwn she is town.
As scum she is an terminator. One goal, one set of programming, no hesitancy, no doubt. Nothing may change the set values. It’s clear to me that this is what we are dealing with here based on the carchup.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve always been able to identify town!Mastina. The one exception was the game where i was third-party arsonist and said they were town because they townread me and i instantly accepted it because it was convenient. This game is the firsr where i have to genuinely read them and i don’t see theie townie traits at all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will say that T3 feels the most underwhelming content-wise in our hood overall when comparing all players.

They're catching up.

How do you know that is what they are doing or that’s what i meant?

Well given that I said that I was catching up multiple times

It’s what you’re saying based on catchup that i find underwhelming.
Them defending you because you’re catching up seems both out of tune and kinda like talking on your behalf which is questionable.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Kitty and Mastina are both good votes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Same logic. Strength of read is not an factor, anything from full scumread to just very minor badvibes will be listed the same. That also goes for townreads.

Alisae=

Town

catboi=

Town

Charloux=

Town

Datisi=

Town

Bell=

Town

KittyTacky=

Scum

Dannflor=

Town

Mistyx=

Town

SCRRRDBEAR=

Town

Titus=

Town

fireisredsir=

Town

mastina=

Scum

Frozen Angel=

Town

Cephrir=

Scum

Marashu=

Town

Shiro=

Town

Something_Smart=

Scum

Val89=

Town

T3=

Scum

PenguinPower=

Scum

[NorwegianboyEE]

ig looking again, mastina could be doing the thing where she spends like way more words talking about everything besides actual reasons for reads so that it looks like she has content bc she keeps posting massive walls but none of them actually provide any game advancing material

idk

@penguin i think its the reasoning thats more important tho. like she had points (titus claim, my claim) where she clearly was adjusting her reads and direction based on new info. her overall readlist might have stayed similar but her thoughts were changing. i do think most of that was after d1 tho. and even a lot of d2 she was singularly focused on the roden angle

The "important" post from Mastina was just babble.
I wish i could say it was more but it was not.
Whenever Mastina mentions us it’s like an contest of how many ways and variations of speech you could say for "they are scum" without giving a single good point of reasoning.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They posted it in this thread Bear.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They posted it in this thread Bear.

NUH-UH

1441

[NorwegianboyEE]

i'm not questioning it i'm questioning why no one else questioned it

Because we know that you know that we all know that it's probably self-resolving something something.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: T3

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina/Kitty/T3 all fine wagons to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Mastina

[NorwegianboyEE]

and now after checking I see that this behavior repeated by bell lets go over the votes:

VOTE: datisi?

VOTE: Mistyx

*stares gently at Datisi*
I’m not sorry.

VOTE: Mastina

Oh. I’m fine killing norwe if mastina is 97.5% certain they’re scum.
VOTE: Norwe

VOTE: Datisi

*FOS Mastina*

Nevermind. It fits. Nothing to be paranoid about there.

VOTE: T3

Sure.

Okay,
so
I'll be real here.

My meta on Mastina is basically:
Will Mastina have a meltdown?
Y: Scum.
N: Town.

They had a meltdown.

I'm fine with this. For the day.
VOTE: Mastina

Ah, I see what you're saying for plot reasons one kitty leaves the clan/is evil.
While Titus is the good rogue kitty that comes in to shore up the clan that had a loss/betrayal.
Makes sense from a plot point perspective.

...I forgot what Ydra said about this. *shrug* I'm sure someone will dig it up.

Why is this guy so easily convinced of everything? even stuff his suspects say?!

The vote movement is all over the place and chaotic and most votes had no context. he votes mastina and has fos on her throughout the day without explaining much about it yet instantly jumps on norwee when mastina says she is 97% sure norwee is scum. and then responds to alisae this:

I don’t understand Alisse well, but currently. I’m neutral to lean town on them, I think.
Their engagement style conflicts with what I think scum would do. But I can’t quite articulate why.

I am going to have to ask you to move your vote that is currently on Norwee. If you trust mastina's 97.5% read on Norwee, then you should be trusting me 100% tr on Norwee as the player who is probably the best player at the table at reading him, ESPECIALLY because I have a hood with him.

I don’t trust either of you tho.

but we trust mastina because?????????

I meant, I trust neither you nor Mastina. I dn't have to trust someone to vote with them.
Infact I almost never vote with someone because I trust them.

But if mastina was hard for why would you trust what they say in first place?

and then bell moves vote and plays on other heated players here and there without asking questions to sort them

and votes T3 cause asked by alisae without any questions out of nowhere just to jump back on mastina again?

I can't follow this mindset progress from a town perspective. It seems incredibly inconsistent in development

and there are these posts:

What if I’m scum? Then technically, I’m right.

@FrozenAngel: why aren’t you scum this game?

that are pretty bold joking and is a thing town would be way less comfortable saying in general. and the questions that have 0 value in evaluation (that's just an example he asked same kind of questions multiple times)

VOTE: bell

pedit: will respond to you in next post

I’d quote somwthing specific but mobile will only quote the entire wall.

@FA in response to "why is Bell chsnging votes so much" i don’t think this specific point is scummy. Changing votes is overall pretty townie imo because it shows a lot of re-evaluation and such. I wouldn’t clear them from being scum but i don’t think this particular point is scummy.
I did wonder if Bell could have been trying to pocket Alisae though so we had an short discussion about whether Bell is even capable of advanced tactics like that

[NorwegianboyEE]

And then it quotes the post anyway… fuck is wrong with mobile MS…

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina having a meltdown isn't really the problem. It's that they are not changing their reads, not responding to a lot of very valid arguments that is questioning their conclusions, and then having a meltdown.
Which combined is so bleeping scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't understand the obsession with masons, i think it was already established that Mastina claims mason as a joke in almost all games they play.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did Mastina claim in thread yet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

There’s nothing for me to respond to. You’re just not correct in what you are saying.
Although, you’re not trying to convince me so whatevs.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If someone, somehow, is convinced by this. We can talk, but talking to Mastina herself seems pretty pointless right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not_Mafia really upped their play recently i gotta say.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are we absolutely sure that executioner isn’t an possible role in this game?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok so i read Mastina’s whole drivel just to see if there was anything important and there was not.

Confirming it to be pointless so not any more poor souls will have to endure reading it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

A soulread is a read that cannot be wrong because you are literally staring into their soul, seeing their role PM. I can see Norwee's alignment this game and he is scum.

Oh fuck off with this bullshit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you have any idea how tired i am of crap like this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I've listed my reasonings for scumreading her. Main ones for me is:
- Lack of flexibility
- Not changing reads upon new information but rather using that new information in twisted ways to suit initial reads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

There is no logical reasoning to believe the shit she herself is spouting, so where is the townie motivation. It's just "Hey i decided to flip numerous slots as scum and town pre-emptively. I have no real logic and i don't care to explain my logic but i will still babyrage and make huge walls to ensure you all listen to the crap i am forcing down your throats, co-operate please.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Whatever the claim of Mastina was it couldn’t have been of that much importance considering the clan isn’t defending them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

ok nvm the discussion wasn't that interesting, i'm just an idiot

anyway, she claimed apprentice into 2-shot town crier. that has to submit during the day, and that may or may not (?) work when she's dead too

yeah basically

i have no doubt it's a true claim, just y'know, idk what's the alignment lole

Okiedokie

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think it's fair to say that no counterwagon is happening.

I'd switch to Kitty if that got more support.

That probably would get more support so why aren't you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It is a true statement because I said Mastina is town and she flipped town. And I was pushing Norwe, I just wasn't posting a whole lot about it because I was busy defending myself.

Yes because pulling an Mastina where you just say some absolutely dumb shit like: "We flipped town and that means their asinine scumread is correct" will get you somewhere.
I’m sure Mastina is cheering for you in dead thread, but fact is that they were simply wrong and didn’t have a good point other than whatever the fuck a "soulread" means for them. So why are you sheeping it?
Give me a good answer or i’ll vote you. I don’t give a fuck.

[NorwegianboyEE]

would it be Bad and Wrong of me to think that the FA kill makes it more likely that one of the leaders is scum

Did FA claim to be leader in thread?

[NorwegianboyEE]

whatever this clan leader thing is, at least 2 and i bet 3 of you are outed so maybe there's not any point in playing coy about it

we all are outed to each other anyway. so there is nothing coy about it at all. and its certainly not making any of us more or less town/mafia. if anything I lean on at least facing one mafia leader based on the mechanics involved but I bet it had randomness too.

I am river clan's leader.

so if you've been influenced by a leader wrongly to assume they have a very special role that clears them, you better start not trusting what your leader said about it.

So FA claimed publically in thread to be leader so @Dannflor it doesn’t really slam dunk that there is a scum in leaders cus anyone could read that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I want to undersrand Kitty’s motivations first, perhaps they can be reasoned with unlike fucking Mastina. Voting here meanwhile.
VOTE: T3
Perpertual catchup mode and i think they are the potential scum in our hood.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee why did you make 1 post in wind clan and then not say anything else during night?
the PT was a graveyard zzzzzzzzzz

I was busy playing vidja gamess.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sorry, i’d have tried harder if i knew you were left hanging.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I want to think for myself a bit though. I get that everyone wants to kill Kitty and i even thought it might be a good lim during the night. But i’m wary that i’m just letting popular thought manipulate my actions so i want to just take a short break, and re-read day 1 with the flips in mind and come to completely unique conclusions. I just finished a newbie where i tried garnering reads by just detaching myself from the game and i got really good reads from it. So i’ll do that once i feel ready.

The newbie if anyone is interested -> viewtopic.php?f=11&t=90000

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your vote is a naked vote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My literal only fear is that you are another arrogant town that scum is hiding behind so i’ll reserve my vote despite your answer being extremely unsatisfactory.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like scum could just be banking on the lone dumb town voter being voted out for sussing me and that’s the strategy because town!Alisae has white knighted me this game and so it’s easier than pushing the lim on me.
So even though all of my fiber is screaming to bash Kitty into oblivion i’ll give it some more thought.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sheeping is not a naked vote.

Yes it is. Mastina voted me for no reason so sheeping is effectively the same. Except you can hide behind another persons dumbassery so it’s objectively worse.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ah shit, now i realize why i didn't focus on this game during the night. Because it makes me unable to control my emotions.
I'm taking a break.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alisae was pushing mastina pretty hard D1 after getting called out, even though mastina was pushing Norwee. Like, there was some fixation going on there. I'm not seeing much scrutiny on that, but since more than 5 people have posted, it's not that scum just isn't bringing it up. But why isn't scum discussing it, and why isn't town discussing it? I honestly don't know if this is normal for Alisae (who also tried to flashlim T3, so I'm guessing she likes to try to take control of wagons), but she was acting like mastina was foundscum, but looking back I see a lot of rhetoric and trying to discredit mastina's arguments.

Coming out of my dormant state to comment on this.

I believe that Alisae fighting Mastina in D1 also had to do with our co-operation in hood. I joined this game because Alisae invited me and we are trying to solve together. As we are in a hood together it is also very easy for us to both share ideas and fight for each other. And as we both discussed scumreading Mastina for their push it is only natural that they were fiery in their pushback against Mastina. I do not scumread it, and i also think that with this information that nobody else should either. Think of it this way, Mastina literally strengthened our resolve by pushing an team of me/Alisae. And so she got an self-fulfilling prophesy. We both fought like hell to bury her. (With the cave-eat that we genuinely believed her to be scum)

[NorwegianboyEE]

et tu, brute?

goddammit i know this avatar makes me look scummy but i didn't want to be the one to say it lmfao

i could have had some bitchin anime cat fanart avatar but ydrasse had to give me this IT'S HER FAULT

Not an serious read, but if this was an newbie and you had that avatar i have the feeling you would be 90% rand!scum for it alone.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I shept a case that made sense to me and continues to.

A case that made sense to nobody else and that Mastina themselves admitted wouldn't make sense to anyone other than her.
So why did you somehow "get it"?

[NorwegianboyEE]

No shit I would also do it as scum because it would increase my win rate as scum to do so, even when there's no opportunism and I just want to discredit my attackers.

But I also say it as town when I genuinely see someone who looks like scum (Alisae here) pushing LHF townie me.

I don't like how you don't explain your votes and then call yourself LHF to get off the hook.
When trying to understand you all we get is what can be summarized as excuses.

I'm not even confident you are scum tbh, but all of this stuff adds together and makes me very unsure about you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh my lord, he exists.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I shept a case that made sense to me and continues to.

A case that made sense to nobody else and that Mastina themselves admitted wouldn't make sense to anyone other than her.
So why did you somehow "get it"?

I believe Mastina when she said that you interact with scumbuddies the way you talked to certain people D1 and also I remember you in Baseball very well.

When i talked to who?
Also i looked up Baseball and i didn't even remember playing in that game until looking it up lmao.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I shept a case that made sense to me and continues to.

A case that made sense to nobody else and that Mastina themselves admitted wouldn't make sense to anyone other than her.
So why did you somehow "get it"?

I believe Mastina when she said that you interact with scumbuddies the way you talked to certain people D1 and also I remember you in Baseball very well.

When i talked to who?
Also i looked up Baseball and i didn't even remember playing in that game until looking it up lmao.

Alisae. And I have a great memory for things like people's playstyle in games.

Did not you pay attention to the fact that both Val and Shiro said that you'd be stupid to think i'm partnered with Alisae.
Unless you think we are somehow all 4 scum in the same hood. Some of us are telling the truth about the fact that it is pretty darn unlikely me and Alisae are partnered here.
So your "i am talking to Alisae in a partnered way" is kinda bollocks reasoning. Got any more? Also i'd like to understand what exactly it is you read as "partnered" too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

also this is off topic but i kinda want to hear more people's thoughts on this and i don't think there's much point in hiding it so

i have info about scum roles

pregame, scum were able to choose two of their own roles to swap amongst themselves. they also were able to choose one role to activate

Do you know anything about these roles or is that all you know?

[NorwegianboyEE]

the only additional clarification i was able to get is that the swap means the entire rolecard, so that would include clans

So scum had some level of choice in the PT they could be in? That's some pretty game-changing info. I was under the impression all hoods were decided by host and element of random.
What exactly does this mean? Could all scum decide which players to be in which hood or what?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wrote it bad, what i meant to say was some variation of "could all scum players effectively select the hood they wanted to be in while the town slots were already pre-selected into hoods"

[NorwegianboyEE]

ok yea i just figured that out lol my bad

the way its phrased implies there was only the possibility for one swap

So out of 5 scum only 2 could swap roles (and potentially clans) between each other?
Sorry if i sound dumb but i need to get spoon-fed this stuff so i don't misunderstand.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ydrasse confirmed that there are 5 scum in sign up thread i believe.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you think that if they were scum they would expect to survive long after I flip town if they succeeded?

YES

Datisi: "Oh no they flipped town, well guess they shouldn't of played such scummy"
Everyone: "Ayup"

[NorwegianboyEE]

in particluar, that they FOS Catboi for pushing on KT today

this sounds... weird? why are they fosing him for that?

I’m not FOS’ing Catboi in Windclan, in case you thought it was plural.

[NorwegianboyEE]

T3 is the best vote imo. After thinking about it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hood discussions, reading the game. And something else.

[NorwegianboyEE]

and if t3 is scum and kitty is town then i would not be surprised if the kitty wagon was all town

Why?
Kitty was an wagon before T3 got much votes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Shiro is V/LA

[NorwegianboyEE]

No.
It’s mostly Alisae, Val and me talking. With a little input from Titus.
Shiro mentioned they would be afk due to V/LA and T3 has been a ghost in there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually i’m not sure if Shiro mentioned it, but they are currently V/LA clearly.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Here’s an idea.
I think it’s easier to solve in smaller groups.
So can every hood say who they believe are the possible scum in only their grouping specifically?
Or alternatively if you think they are all town and why.

[NorwegianboyEE]

FA’s one should have one short. So who are the remaining players there?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think it would be helpful to get a list of every hood and the players in them.
Scum is sure to know already so if anyone can remind me who is in all hoods i can compile a orderly list.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Here’s an idea.
I think it’s easier to solve in smaller groups.
So can every hood say who they believe are the possible scum in only their grouping specifically?
Or alternatively if you think they are all town and why.

Didn’t we already say it’s not best to try and solve within clans?

I feel like that was a thing that was already discussed.

Well in that case i missed it and i disagree with the conclusion.

[NorwegianboyEE]

cephrir about to have an aneurysm

Why? Lol.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Thunderclan:
- Charloux (Leader)
- Marashu
- KittyTacky
- PenguinPower
- SCRRRDBEAR

Windclan:
- Shiro
- Alisae
- NorwegianboyEE
- T3
- Val89
- Titus (Joined mid-day 1)

X-clan:
- Dannflor (Leader)
- Datisi
- Catboi
- Something_Smart
-

Mastina

Riverclan:
-

Frozen Angel

(Leader)
- Bell
- fireisredsir
- MistyX
- Cephrir

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'M ASSUMING THIS IS ALSO YOUR READS LIST, WITH THE NAMES AT THE TOP OF YOUR POST MORE LIKELY TO BE TOWN AND THE NAMES AT THE BOTTOM MORE LIKELY TO BE SCUM?

Umm, no.

[NorwegianboyEE]

ya bro u mad

Dear Ali, you still ain't called or wrote, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad - I just think it's fucked up you don't answer fans


but on a more serious note if you think my points against kittytacky are bad then actually say so to my face? Because otherwise it looks like you're just letting me go off on kittytacky while shit talking me to your clan

All of us in the girls locker room laughed at your fashion choice earlier today.
Omigosh~

[NorwegianboyEE]

you didn't. your reasons for scumreading t3 boil down to "he's poe via hood" but that doesn't make sense as there is not necessarily scum in your hood anyway. yet you are preflipping a shit ton of things based on t3 being scum. which is either circular reasoning or doesn't make sense and i wanna know where the t3 read stems from

the only things you said about why you townread kitty there is him being genuine about the reaction to you trying to cancel him and that post about town meta, which like whatever i guess is A Reason, but also i think you mentioned somewhere that the way he explains his reads is newbtown and i wanna know where you got thta imporession? like i feel like your read on kitty should be based on more things by zhe way it's currently influencing your thoughts on the game

You genuinely believe our hood has 0 scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i feel like u attacking Alisae in an unfair fair and making out their scumread of T3 to be weaker than it really is.
Scumreading T3 for their play is perfectly valid, it is inexcusable to have so little content and real-time engagement this far into the game. And they haven’t done anything in hood either.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Every other player seems very unlikely scum.
I cannot see Alisae, Val or Shiro as possible scum.
Titus maybe but they are an outsider so they’ll be solved independently.

[NorwegianboyEE]

alisae why are you ignoring me

DUDE HE HAS TO CONCENTRATE, SCUM THEATER IS A LOT OF WORK

How TF is that scum theater m8?

[NorwegianboyEE]

You genuinely believe our hood has 0 scum?

i don't think of scum with regards to hood memberships and i think it's extremely stupid to solve that way, which is why i didn't understand alisae's scumread there

i have been begging alisae to explain to me why they scumread t3 and they keep giving me non-answers, i'm not making anything out

based on their answers, why does alisae scumread t3, norwee?

Well i’ve stated in hood that i want us to remove the scum that is definitely in there and since every other player has felt very town and 1 slot has not even tried to engage in hood since their "hi" post, you do the math.
It’s an high-intensity zone in there and T3 couldn’t even keep up with main thread.
So it’s an selfish desire that drives me too. I want to have a scum free hood and idc what you say. It is from an game perspective almost impossible odds to just have a hood in this game that is scum free.
If T3 is town then i can only assume that i must be mistakenly townreading someone else, that’s just how it is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

These are domestic policies and we are cutting the fat.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know i don’t.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve made up my mind and if you disagree then great, who is scum? I’m not gonna change my decision i’ve thought about it and i prefer T3 as the flip today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like are you literally just scum?
I think it’s been pretty clear our reasoning, no pussyfooting there (heh, get it?), but you’re just being obstinate for the sake of it now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Bell
Yes. Pretty sure i said this before too.
Mod confirmed that someone joined our hood and then Titus said hi.

[NorwegianboyEE]

T3 why don't you post in the hood?

[NorwegianboyEE]

T3 why don't you post in the hood?

DO YOU TR EVERYONE ELSE IN THUNDER BESIDES KT?

No, i also am not sure i scumread Kitty that much anymore. I get the impression most of their strange behaviour is just NAI so i no longer am interested in joining the wagon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well i checked literally one random towngame they had that was recent to verify that and i'm noting that they just said "I'm town" a lot. Like that was their whole post and defense of suspicion on them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm town.

I'm town, I play weird but I'm town. Nothing else to say, if anyone has any questions you can ask.

i think i would rather have marashu as a wagon than norwee right now

Then vote Marashu and not me. I'm town.

Ok Sccrdbear.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is exactly the same.
You may be placed as absolute scumread if T3 flips scum now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VAL CAN YOU GIVE US ANOTHER LAY DOWN ON THE DYNAMICS OF WIND CLAN

Why asking Val?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I ain’t scum either bro.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That’s a cute theory cus i’m probably the only player in hood that has been suspicious of whether Titus can be trusted and asking them questions.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I BELIEVE TITUS ROLE IS MOST LIKELY TO BE

SCOURGE

, (MAJOR SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO ARE READING THE BOOKS)

Spoiler:

THE PRIMARY ANTAGONIST OF THE FIRST SERIES.

IN MY OPINION, THIS IS THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE DARK ONES BETWEEN THE CLANS:

Thunderclan:
- Charloux (Leader)
-

Marashu

-

KittyTacky

- PenguinPower
- SCRRRDBEAR

Windclan:
- Shiro
- Alisae
-

NorwegianboyEE

- T3
- Val89
-

Titus (Joined mid-day 1)

Shadowclan:
- Dannflor (Leader)
- Datisi
-

Catboi

- Something_Smart
-

Mastina

Riverclan:
-

Frozen Angel (Leader)

- Bell
- fireisredsir
- MistyX
- Cephrir



(MAJOR SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO ARE READING THE BOOKS)

Spoiler:

"You see what happens to cats who defy BloodClan? Your friend here thought he could control us. He was wrong."
―Scourge after killing Tigerstar The Darkest Hour, page 235

Scourge is recruited by Tigerstar to help the ShadowClan leader take over the Clans by force, and leads BloodClan's cats to their territories. He and BloodClan are introduced by Tigerstar to the other Clans, though Scourge's cats refuse to fight under Tigerstar's command due to their loyalty to their leader.

https://warriors.fandom.com/wiki/Scourge

ON REFLECTION AND REVIEW OF CATBOI'S ISO I BELIEVE CABOI MAY HAVE TMI DATISI AND I TO BE TOWN IN 698. I BELIEVE FROZEN ANGEL WAS KILLED PARTLY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LEADER OF THE ONLY ALL-TOWN CLAN. I DISLIKE THAT THE PLAYER WHO DISMANTLED THE MARASHU WAGON (SHIRO) IS LOCATED WITHIN WINDCLAN AND THAT THE CURRENT LEADING WAGON SEEMS LIKELY TO BE A TOWNIE WHO WAS LATE INTO THE GAME...AND ALSO IS LOCATED IN WINDCLAN. FINALLY, I BELIEVE THAT THE ENTIRE WINDCLAN IS POCKETED BY NORWEE WHICH WAS A MOTIVATING FACTOR FOR TITUS TO JOIN WINDCLAN, AND THIS IS ALSO THE MAIN CAUSE OF THE T3 WAGON.

Wait a second… How do you know the third clan is called Shadowclan?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did Bear legitimately just scumtold??

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok nvm i found that Dannflor said Shadow-clan in page 35 i missed that first time.

[NorwegianboyEE]

First you expect him to incorporate your pt in his reads and now you find it weird that he knows what shadow clan is despite him reading the first book. Oke makes sense

I don’t know anything about the books so how would i even know reading first book would give info about clans used in this game? Could be 10 clans for all i know.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i never said he should incorporate my PT into his reads. I was simply informing him that his reads didn’t fit the empirical evidence.
Bit of an misrep tbh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

hey T3 what do you hope to accomplish by playing this way

Wdym?

like

you're getting wagoned but you don't seem to care

you aren't really pushing anything

it seems like you're just posting to post

I’m posting because I’m trying to gauge reads and not get limmed.

Why do you not engage with the hood?
Also what is your read on the players in our hood.

[NorwegianboyEE]

With explanation behind it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

S_S is very hard to talk about.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wouldn’t say i was the only one sorting Titus like all other players in our hood had given it no thought. But i tried to ask questions and exactly the same theories as was said earlier about them potentially being a scum that could select hood to spy in and etc.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Titus didn’t want to share why exactly they selected our hood though so they are honest about still not sharing their true motivations.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, I can’t recall if it’s in the rules. But no betting in game amongst players.

I'll bet you that's wrong.

[NorwegianboyEE]

god I love when I finally catch someone doing some real scummy shit and the entire game goes "lalalala I can't hear you"

I love mafia

I love the games on this website

Lol, anyway i've actually been talking about "who's scum in leaders" in my hood in a while and i've been feeling iffy about Charloux for a while soo... + for coming to same conclusion i guess?

[NorwegianboyEE]

we are not eliminating a leader today. next

Is it cus they are your teammate.
Nobody is exempt from suspicion.

[NorwegianboyEE]

we are not eliminating a leader today. next

Is it cus they are your teammate.
Nobody is exempt from suspicion.

actually, leaders are currently exempt from suspicion because we are not voting out any of them. thanks for playing!

Ok major badvibes from Ceph right now.
This is either some horrible white knighting attempt or they have an vested interest in not voting out a potential scum just because they are leader.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you townread claimed leaders i wouldn't give a fuck, but the fact that you just COMPLETELY DENY even looking at any of them and trying to solve them is fucking sus.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Dann
I also think it’s worth noting that T3 seems to have just given up on even posting in our hood. And he has been ignoring my questions for why he isn’t posting there, no explanation. Nothing.
But yet they keep coming in with some random ass pop in "reads" in main thread. It just feels really fake cus i tgink town!him would be trying lot more to understand our hood dynamics than just come in with stale memes and reads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

KDA?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Boy we got some juicy intel.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well that sucks.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Heres's something interesting to contemplate on.

Enchant was asked if they had info on Marashu. They said they had no info about them in their role pm.
They then said later that they actually do have info about Marashu.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Obviously.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Isn't discussing replace outs not allowed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Enchant
Agreed with the claim demands.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Doctor, but we need both target one person for it to work. We are in hood for this.

I know nothing if marashi town.

So Shiro could communicate with Marashu at any time?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok, well i guess that's good enough for now.

FOR THE RECORD, they came and were like "is this the mafia PT?" before saying they had specifically no info about Marashu in their ROLE PM which sounded extremely sus.

VOTE: T3

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok so kill T3 is prob the right course then.

[NorwegianboyEE]

By anime this time i refer these wariror cats or what is this abomination

You can't just call everything you don't like anime.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I guess either i'm getting bussed or there's resistance because scum doesn't want to vote me.
There is no possible other explanation clearly...

[NorwegianboyEE]

There’s also that Alisae and Norwee are tunneling me in the hood and I don’t really feel welcome to post my notes and observations because every 10 posts is some variation of “T3 is scum”

That is not at all right.
I've asked you numerous times to chime in because we talked about lots of stuff, not just "Ah yes T3 is scum" over and over again. But you always seemed to ignore it so of course i'm gonna find that scummy. If there was a reason you didn't want to post in hood that is perfectly fine but you didn't even give any excuse.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Game is sad now without Alisae to talk to.

[NorwegianboyEE]

*cries even harder*

[NorwegianboyEE]

DW is a joke*

[NorwegianboyEE]

HELP US CLEANSE THUNDER CLAN AND ELIMINATE KT TOMORROW, PLEASE

Do you still believe T3 and KT are partnered?
I know you said it was likely scum bussing but i'm not sure you really believe that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You guys killed VAL???
Jesus, with both Alisae and T3 flipping scum my hood shouldn’t have been suspected at all.
I did believe that out of leaders Charloux was the most scummy so it’s unfortunate he was the one that endgamed. I would have never agreed to an Val elimination. I suppose that is why my slot lived whwn i was replaced.
About that…

I want to vent my feelings and give way to an rant about the way i got forcibly replaced from this game.

I was just immediately replaced out without any warning at the night before the next day, as i was looking forward to continuing to play this game. It is cruel to toss someone out without a warning, and i don’t know if they simply never realized it, but i had not been warned beforehand despite my the PM from Ydrasse saying i had been.

As for the reason of the replacement it is because i posted an timestamp from the main thread into the hood. Which was apparently so egregious that i had to be replaced out from the game forcibly and with no first strike/warning given. I was not even aware of it being an punishable offense in the first place, nor do i understand why it is against the rules. This is awful treatment, and to make matters worse i was not even given access to dead thread. Just locked out from the game and replaced out without any warning when i thought i had commited no wrong and was ready for the next day.

Why did i have to be replaced? Why was i given no warning? Why was i not given access to dead thread? Am i not a respected enough player to even be given basic privilieges? Should i be treated as an criminal for a very small mistake?

The game hosts were Ydrasse and Dkkoba. ultimately i do not know which one of these two had the final say in the decision, Or if it was both. But as an result of it i am going to be wary about signing up to any game hosted by these two in the future, in fact i probably won’t. It may have been an acceptably hosted game on paper, but i found it disgusting how i was kicked me out from the game and unless there is an reasonable excuse, i do not want anything to do with the games hosted by these two in the future. It was an horrible way to treat one of your players that sign up to your game and left me with a really bad taste in my mouth regarding this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not gonna criticize you Mastina. You are mature enough to learn from your mistakes. I still respect and like you as an player and i hope we can meet for another game sometime in the future even if it will be long away.