Happy Face Mafia (Game Over)

[T3]

VOTE: romance
It can only end in divorce or death.

[T3]

hi

[T3]

Hello Enchant. Care to weigh in on the death of romance?

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BAMBOOZLED

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rvs
is
officially

[T3]

Titus is Survivor

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Darn not rvs anymore.
Initial tr on samantha.

[T3]

Fair point, but time zones andweekend.

[T3]

We're only 3 pages in....
pedit: why eould you not care about VCA....

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. I don't like the random assumptions at this point made by bugs. Enchant is starting off as town for me. Comes into the game, starts reading, answering questions. VFP is hard town for reasons I don't want to share right now. Wheme doesn't appear to be making an effort but that fits with his meta from town or scum so not sure. I initially tred samantha for coming into the game and doing stuff but I'm not so sure. Romance's tone almost feels faked, in a sense. Titus is town. Mostly a gut toneread on this one and would be open to bugs attempting to convonce us. Raya is town for a similar reason to Titus. willow is twn for the idgaf post Bamboozle is guttowny for basically just riding with it at the start.

I think I'm leavin my RVS vote as is.

[T3]

WhemeStar actually might be a good vote.

[T3]

. I don't like the random assumptions at this point made by bugs. Enchant is starting off as town for me. Comes into the game, starts reading, answering questions. VFP is hard town for reasons I don't want to share right now. Wheme doesn't appear to be making an effort but that fits with his meta from town or scum so not sure. I initially tred samantha for coming into the game and doing stuff but I'm not so sure. Romance's tone almost feels faked, in a sense. Titus is town. Mostly a gut toneread on this one and would be open to bugs attempting to convonce us. Raya is town for a similar reason to Titus. willow is twn for the idgaf post Bamboozle is guttowny for basically just riding with it at the start.

I think I'm leavin my RVS vote as is.

Do NOT call us that or I won’t be responsible for Noraa tearing you a new one dude, you’ve been warned.

What have they done that townpings you? They might be a null but well you might possibly lack the advantage of meta especially when it concerns Romance.

Who?

[T3]

"i submit to you, anime"

[T3]

VOTE: samantha
meh

[T3]

can't tell if enchant is drunk or it's still rvs

[T3]

Flea the Sorcerer, what do you disagree with about my early reads?

I am not a sorcerer. I studied for my powers!
Also, you have reads? o.o

chrono trigger? I think I've seen your username somewhere.

[T3]

The Dunn votes are terrible I'm not going to read too much into pit.

[T3]

This game is too slow for me.
I'm gonig to coast until I see something ilike.

In the mean time feel free to convince me why I should vote with you (anyone).

cause you're mafia

Vote this.

[T3]

This game is too slow for me.
I'm gonig to coast until I see something ilike.

In the mean time feel free to convince me why I should vote with you (anyone).

t3 explain the town mindset behind afking for 15 pages and only commenting on a vote on you and I won't dayvig you right now

It's not alignment indicitave. Then, you call someone scum for not voting Dunnstral.

[T3]

wat

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I don't know about VFP here. I could see Enchant as scum, same with samantha but not them both together. I would want to go for samantha.

[T3]

TVTTTTTTTTTTTT

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TVT starter pack:
1. edgy player
2. RVS bandwagon
3. excessive use of the word lol

[T3]

Esooa seems right about. The bugs hydra still pings me as scum.

[T3]

Jesus bamboozle is such obv scum why haven’t we voted here earlier

VOTE: bamboozle

Looks like scum trying to act townie to me

VOTE: WhemeStar
Thank you fo pointing out the obvious and trying to get toenpoints.

[T3]

Something about samantha Enchant interactions just seem off, in a sense. Let's wait for the Bell replacement before voting. Dunn is pinging me as scum with post 668.

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VOTE: dunn
No objections to this as of now.

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Alrigt I would not be surprised ifcWheme/dunn are s//s

[T3]

Wheme and Dunn are strong scumreads right now
.

[T3]

.-.

[T3]

Hard town: Esooa, Romance
town: Raya, willow, Bug Hydra
Lean town: VFP, jjh, Bamboozle
Null: Flea, PenguinPower, Bell
Lean scum: Titus, Enchant
Scum: Dunnstral, samantha
Hard cum: WhemeStar
VOTE: WhemeStar

[T3]

t3 thats a scummy readlist

...
Okay this seems like blatant scum.

[T3]

Hold up, I think wheme slipped.

[T3]

Hold up, I think wheme slipped.

Go on?

Wheme said: I thought this would get me towreads.

[T3]

VOTE: samantha
:/

[T3]

I would rather wait for te bell replacement.

[T3]

VOTE: titus
The whole towncase thing and voting patterns make me feel like this is scum.

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I'm town 2-shot seer.

Fake claim from another site.

This mod would not use the term "seer" to refer to a cop

My thougts also.

[T3]

VOTE: RMH
Good for me.

[T3]

5 minute replacement moment.

[T3]

VOTE: rmh
There is only DEATH to all those who play the game known as mafia.

[T3]

thoughts on requiring andante to claim?

No point in it. Because we can only vote RMH or Retti today.

[T3]

I thought tomorrow was implied sry

"sry"

[T3]

Hammer yourse-e-elf!

[T3]

I don't see this as a scum claim??

God, just...just read the explanations bear hugs posted about his meta

I saw the meta about long/active posts as town, and no posts as scum, but I generally don't only rely on meta to scumread someone

Meta works more often than not IMO.

[T3]

T3 likely scum sheeping Willow. Regardless, I expect one scum in Willow/T3. I don't think Willow is taking advantage of the fact I said our playstyles would crash.

I had an original read on you.

[T3]

Waiting on rmh flip. Not much to say right now.

[T3]

I think Andante and Titus are both scum.

[T3]

Robert and Titus felt VERY buddyish.

[T3]

Andantes only townread swere titus and the dead romance.

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Andantes only townread swere titus and the dead romance.

And you mention him out of nowhere when jjh has done just as little.

You're either partners with him or seeking to undermine townreads on me to protect Dunn.

I did mention Andante as a possible partner for you.

[T3]

Enchant meta also pings me as scum. I find Enchant as more agressive early game, but Enchant almost felt passive.

[T3]

Andantes only townread swere titus and the dead romance.

I don't think that's particularly AI for someone who had just subbed into the game and was catching up, she seemed more clueless than anything. Would've expected her teammates to tell her to stop posting if she was scum but she seemed to be kind of in her own world, so to speak.

Makes sense. I do tend not to read in to what happened/not in scumchat.

[T3]

bruh. I see people throwing my name out, what do you want from me? With the number of people who fossed me, and assuming there was a vig in game, I figured I was gonna get shot by a vig last night, so I didn't catch up, but I've been making progress this morning, just cause I'm not spamming doesn't mean we can just throw my name out.

All you people using meta and whatnot, have you ever stopped to consider some people are different due to only having 200 posts??

T3, Why do I care about Enchant meta? please share. I am not Enchant, nor is Enchant here, thus arguing about how Enchant was is honestly irrelevant right now. Ask me questions, I'll give answers, just don't ask me for a full reads list yet, I'll have something soon for where I actually stand with my reads, off the top of my head, no one is screaming scum, so I guess that's good for scum, interaction wise is a bit weird, like I haven't even read Robert's lines, so please just chill with me for a brief minute.

I like willow bringing up wagon analysis, once I have more context I'll look into that

Also, with #1156, T3, why are you expecting me to have a full list of town reads? this is an 18p game, and as I subbed in, yall were all over my slot being scum, I literally expected to die, I wonder why I didn't go read the 18p game for fun...

You replaced enchant

[T3]

VOTE: Titu

[T3]

I didn't like the Bell wagon at the timebecause the entire case seemed to be a flimsy metaread.

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Titus is basically using the "I am vital to town winning when I'm town" defense and I don't like it. Titus then goes for LHF slots that no one really cares about that haven't done anything.

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Titus is just going for LHF slots that haven't actually done anything to deflect the wagon off her meanwhile not addressing the reasons provided by those on her wagon.

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TBH i think my defense of lury players is more gut playstyle than anything else.

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It almost feels like Titus is trying to essentially fill scumslots.

[T3]

samanthahas gotten much more town.

[T3]

i would really encourage working back over my first few posts of this sequence with this new knowledge in mind

re: 1326 i just spent time talking about esooa, sam, you, and with the carryover read from vfp but ok

this is my updated readslist, ordered t->s (ie. this is a strictly ordered list and you are at bottom of null)

locktown {bear}
very town {retti}
townlean {t3, esooa, sam, flea}
null {whemestar dunn, jjh, penguin, raya, andante}
scumlean: {vfp}
scum: {titus}

Prtty much entirely my reads...

[T3]

Andante seems townier.

[T3]

Raya actually does look scum by play but I don't want to vote her because of the Bell v Raya wagon. I'm curious to hear why people tr the bugs.

[T3]

This is

Noraa

talking and the first post that I've signed so listen up because this post is important. This may be a long post but I recommend everyone to, at the very least, skim it.

T3, if you do not read this post in full and have a good long wall post in reply, you are scum claiming.

Keep that in mind and don't throw the game

if you are town

because I am giving you a chance to change my mind. If you don't take it, it is solely on you if you are mislaunched.

Moving on,
lets start the analysing

Spoiler:

We're gonna ignore the rvs posts. Let's start here.

Darn not rvs anymore.

Initial tr on samantha.

The word 'initial' just sounds suuuuper bad here because it kinda says they're not dedicated to the read. In which case, why even say it? It also just rubs me the wrong way because T3 starts calling sam scum when sam goes under pressure which is just kinda like ... coincidence? I think not..

Fair point

, but time zones and weekend.

Defends my hydra against willow's shitty arguments about me being scum before I even posted. Im confbiasing a bit here so ignore this part if you want. But it does feel like self conscious scum towards their buddy.

. I don't like the random assumptions at this point made by bugs. Enchant is

starting off

as town for me. Comes into the game, starts reading, answering questions. VFP is hard town for reasons I don't want to share right now. Wheme doesn't appear to be making an effort but that fits with his meta from town or scum so not sure. I

initially

tred samantha for coming into the game and doing stuff but I'm not so sure. Romance's tone almost feels faked, in a sense. Titus is town. Mostly a gut toneread on this one and would be open to bugs attempting to convonce us. Raya is town for a similar reason to Titus. willow is twn for the idgaf post Bamboozle is guttowny for basically just riding with it at the start.

I think

I'm leavin my RVS vote as is.

Ok so he says here. Bear hydra scum. Enchant town. VFP hard town! Wheme null.

Backtrack on sam TR as sam picks up traction

. Romance scum. Titus town. Raya town. Willow town. Bam town.
Let's also note this is probably the one post with the most content from this slot and there is like zero reasoning for anything.

WhemeStar

actually might be

a good vote.

Oop null read gone as wheme wagon picks up traction.

VOTE: samantha
meh

oh no no.

Sam is picking up traction again. Lets move back!!

can't tell if enchant is drunk or it's still rvs

Enchant TR down the drain as Enchant wagon gains traction.

The Dunn votes are terrible

I'm not going to read too much into pit.

Shades all of Dunn's wagon because most people are TRing Dunn.

I don't know about VFP here. I

could see

Enchant as scum, same with samantha but not them both together. I would want to go for samantha.

VFP null.

Enchant scum(TR totally washed away for ... no reason?)

. Sam scum.

Esooa

seems right

about. The bugs hydra still pings me as scum.

Esooa, a widely TRed player ofc is a TR. oop we need to bring back the bear SR.

Jesus bamboozle is such obv scum why haven’t we voted here earlier

VOTE: bamboozle

Looks like scum trying to act townie to me

VOTE: WhemeStar

Thank you fo pointing out the obvious and trying to get toenpoints.

Oop now we're voting wheme because its an easy wagon choo choo.

Something about samantha Enchant interactions

just seem off, in a sense.

Let's wait for the Bell replacement before voting.

Dunn is pinging me as scum

with post 668.

We back to this. Tbh it feels like he's like copying my read on sam and raya at this point.
We shouldn't be voting bell because ..... ??????????????

Dunn is scum now woo so the TR just disappeared down the drain somehow.

(Earlier he shaded all of Dunn's wagon)

VOTE: dunn

No objections to this as of now

.

Ooouuu what happened here?

TR gone as Dunn gains traction.

Alrigt

I would not be surprised

ifcWheme/dunn are s//s

Wheme is always an option ya know, heh.

VOTE: samantha
:/

oh nvm, sam is good too.

I would rather wait for te bell replacement.

ofc you would lol.

VOTE: titus
The whole towncase thing and voting patterns make me feel like this is scum.

ooo

Titus(previous TR) is an option now

too?

Conclusion:

Spoiler:

This is such a bullshit ISO. I can't even. Nearly every vote is sheeped. Zero explanations. Solely trying to float under the radar and follow along with majority votes. He's poking and prodding everywhere looking for a weak spot to push in town and his votes all come with zero explanation. I've bolded some key words in his ISO that will make it easier to read.

Read this spoiler last.

Spoiler:

The

bolded words

are showing uncertainty, shifts in reads, and most importantly, A LOT of replying to/agreeing with other people. Backtracking on TRs due to their wagon gaining traction is shown in

purple

. Notice how T3 switches wagons super often. But

his switches never show individual thought process

. They only show a "aha I found a wagon that I can push" scum mentality. Townies are individual beings who think on their own because they don't have an answer sheet to rely on. Scum however, come into the game with half an answer sheet. Why read this last? Because now that you've read this, I need you to go through and read it again keeping these colors in mind and try to see if you can see what I am seeing. It will go faster because this is your second time reading.

I am not trying to distract from the bell wagon but I need to bring to people's attention how scummy T3 is being. This is also a warning to T3 saying in

big bold red font

, if you are town, you better start acting like it because currently you have done nothing for this game and deserve to get yeeted off the face of the earth.

Pooky is confident in bell scum so I prefer Bell, naturally. However, if Bell wagon starts deteriorating, T3 will town up or get tunneled.

I want everyone that is town to read this post and give me opinions on T3. Do not start a wagon on T3 because a reply from him is very important. If he is under pressure, it is likely that the reply will naturally look more scummy. I don't wish to tunnel town and I wish to give him a chance. Normally, at a time like this, I go full on tunnel mode but after lots of trial and error, I believe this method is better in more ways than one. We still have time and the bell slot just got replaced. Don't start a wagon on T3 and lets work this out together and win this game together. (directed at town ofc)

I just saw this now after it was linked.
Thegeneral case against me seems to be the way I talk and my reads.

For the way I talk with the I think, initial stuff is my playstyle. If you want you can read electoral college mafia, a very recently completed towngame.

All my reads are my honest reads. It looks and is scummy when you do an indepth analysis, but you'll have to take my word on it.
I think the bear hydra is town, but the bandwagoners are scum motivated. I would definitely want to go for Titus today because of a bad defense, basically saying I am the most valuable town and her meta.

[T3]

What actually is the case against Dunn?

[T3]

VOTE: Dunn

And LOOK how quickly this flips.

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Dunnstral - His mentions of Bell could easily be bussing, his D2 entrance was a bit odd (saying all good town roles are dead, discussing multiball (maybe afraid of too much partner analysis))

Not seeing a real reason to vote for me here

You don't have any better leads?

I do have better leads but a lead is a lead. Why did you say all good town roles are dead? You can't honestly think that's all town has.

That felt more ike a pr soft.

[T3]

You'll probably want to ask penguin that, but thats basically a replace out wating to happen.

[T3]

I still think Titus is thebest lim for today by reasons outlined by the bugs and VFP as to why Dunn is town.

[T3]

what are peoples reads on flea?

Lean town.

[T3]

At thus point I think I actualy do tr Wheme.
jjh has gotten townier.

[T3]

Agreed. Just ask for a claim first.

[T3]

VOTE: Titus

[T3]

I'd like to say this surprised me but it doesn't. Two scum suspects naked vote me and don't engage with the recent content.

This tells me they feel they can get the votes or they feel no risk from obvscuming.

You claim to be VT without a mask and we have to lim someone.

[T3]

Oh.
UNVOTE: Titus

Retti, what is your mask/could it be useful?

[T3]

VOTE: we don't eliminate someonr

[T3]

Andante is scum, I'm a pr.

[T3]

VOTE: Andante
Everyone seemed to reasonably tr this slot so I wasn't sure how to push without revealing myself. My n1 result was also that Flea is town.

[T3]

Me fullclaiming is bad here, but Andante is mechanically confirmed scum.

[T3]

Read Andante's doctor claim in the last newbie game and then read it here.

[T3]

This is 100% tvs. Andante is confirmed mafia mechanically without any mod lying.

[T3]

I have no reason as scum to out a tvs guilty on a town.

[T3]

Read Andante's doctor claim in the last newbie game and then read it here.

ok? newbie vs Large theme game I subbed into. the 2 games are very different. Tell me why you wouldn't out the guilty n me earlier? you said it was cause I was being super TRed, this is scum taking advantage of an opportunity

My guilty on you was from my result last night.

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I didn't want people to ask too many questions about the Flea read.

[T3]

I never got amnything about my sanity from the mod. On the night I targeted whoever I targeted I didn't use my mask.

[T3]

VOTE: Andante

[T3]

Goodbye scumdante!

[T3]

I wanna see the looks on yalls faces IRL when I flip doc

Mafia Doc! Great!

[T3]

Let me guees. You all want me to claim.-.

[T3]

Before I say what I got, I don't entirely understand samantha's claim.

[T3]

I have a guilty on jjh.

[T3]

I have a guilty on jjh.

You have a mask, right

I do. I have not used it.

[T3]

VOTE: samantha

[T3]

I have a guilty on jjh.

I'm struggling to see how that could be the case

Well then what do you claim?

[T3]

The jjh guilty isn't a 100% guilty mechanically, but by play+what happened last night I think it's scum.

[T3]

It should become clear about how I got my results after I die.

[T3]

Bah.

[T3]

samanthas mask was bs

[T3]

I never had an reason to use my mask before I died. The whemestar shot was really unlucky.