FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt (Game Over!)
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I agree it's not the only way to obtain master.In post 14, Servant Foreigner wrote:Winning this vote is not the only way to obtain a master.
My role makes it so I want day 2 to start with all 4 scum alive.
So I would rather vote a null read in the actual voting phase then a scum read.
I just want to clarify this so I don't have to try and explain why I am not casing my scum reads down the line.
When I'm made Master, I can activate other people's Master.
My role does extremely well with confirmed town status, and I'll get to activate two or more people I have strong town reads on before the scum are forced to kill me.-
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It's hidden. Only I and the people I select to gain master will know they have obtained it.In post 19, Servant Avenger wrote:Hey great,
The question now is, whether the mafia got that information too or if we just automatically get to win this first phase unless we really want to kill scum day 1 and have 3 super powered mafia instead.
I get to activate 2 secret power roles, my dudes.-
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No?In post 22, Servant Lancer wrote:Stop claiming.
This is an objectively correct play to make. When I become confirmed town, I'll die soon enough anyway, I'm not claiming the rest of my role, and this part of my role cannot be stopped.
It's literally free.-
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Or you can literally just hand it to the player who is claiming what their upgrade does.In post 25, Servant Foreigner wrote:I am rigorously thought about the pros and cons of lynching at random during this phase.
To some degree we don't want to confirm someone we think is town as town? They get a jacked role pm but will just end up being shot which results in us losing a strong town read and the entire benefit of this vote.
People can get upgraded role pms through other means so that player can still get a Jacked role pm need be.
I think this entire day phase should consist of us just voting mid reads. If we flip scum on this phase then we should probably lynch scum a 2nd time.
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It's literally written in my role PM.In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.
Is it not in yours?!-
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The one where you claim you're town?In post 34, Servant Avenger wrote:Berserker did you see my post?
Or... did I miss one?-
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Okay well mine is under my Noble Phantasm abilities. It literally says "when you gain Master...."In post 33, Servant Foreigner wrote:
No?In post 32, Servant Berserker wrote:
It's literally written in my role PM.In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.
Is it not in yours?!-
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Okay, this many people claiming it means it is absolutely a mechanic and not a special power.In post 41, Servant Assassin wrote:In post 16, Servant Alter Ego wrote:I think part of the decision process for figuring out who should get the master upgrade needs to be: what is their master upgrade? How useful is it? How risky to use?
In that spirit, I offer: My master upgrade would allow me to give two other players their own master upgrades. The upgrade would not include revealing their alignment. Usefulness and risk would depend on my townreading skills and luck.
hate 2 break it 2 u but this is probably in everyone's role (it is in mine also)In post 17, Servant Berserker wrote:
I agree it's not the only way to obtain master.In post 14, Servant Foreigner wrote:Winning this vote is not the only way to obtain a master.
My role makes it so I want day 2 to start with all 4 scum alive.
So I would rather vote a null read in the actual voting phase then a scum read.
I just want to clarify this so I don't have to try and explain why I am not casing my scum reads down the line.
When I'm made Master, I can activate other people's Master.
My role does extremely well with confirmed town status, and I'll get to activate two or more people I have strong town reads on before the scum are forced to kill me.
berserker's confidence here is probtown tho
Which makes buddy who has "what do you mean when you become master" a very suspicious person.-
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In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.In post 32, Servant Berserker wrote:
It's literally written in my role PM.In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.
Is it not in yours?!
Like this is way more suspicious with us finding out 4+ people confirmed this is text in the Role PM.In post 33, Servant Foreigner wrote:
No?In post 32, Servant Berserker wrote:
It's literally written in my role PM.In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.
Is it not in yours?!-
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This is our first murder vote, yes?In post 44, Servant Foreigner wrote:Oh I read my role pm wrong.
My with a master ability allows me to give another player a master as a day action.
I am not sure how I missed that text, thanks for getting me to check my noble phantasm.
So to some degree I am objectively the best choice beyond correct strategy of choosing a null read 40 pages from now.
Otherwise we should target a null read as whoever gets chosen will die night one.
I assume this phase is not the same as the literal day 1 elimination phase so I will liberally use our 60 pages.
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No I agree, you're fine.In post 48, Servant Avenger wrote:Yes, and now I’m not scummy for claiming it after you.
Two is a weirdness.
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No I mean you are scum and I want to murder you as soon as we can vote to murder.In post 51, Servant Foreigner wrote:
Is this not the master vote?In post 46, Servant Berserker wrote:This is our first murder vote, yes?
We vote for a master, if we win we get 2 lynches day 1.
If we lose scum probably just win on the spot and we are playing up hill 10-3.-
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Me AngyIn post 50, Servant Avenger wrote:Go back and look at the context.
Also, being an aggro berserker is just perfect.
Grr-
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the "information" they are missing is information that was and is discussed in thread and they are casually ignoring.In post 57, Servant Lancer wrote:
I think Berserker was saying that post is scummy.In post 51, Servant Foreigner wrote:
Is this not the master vote?In post 46, Servant Berserker wrote:This is our first murder vote, yes?
We vote for a master, if we win we get 2 lynches day 1.
If we lose scum probably just win on the spot and we are playing up hill 10-3.
But agree, I don't want to be in the scum master timeline.
Foreigner's mistake indicates less information, which is more town than scum, imo.
As scum here they just play dumb after I caught them on a thing and this is where they end up.
At best this is neutral stupidity, but there's no town + points here to be had.-
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Those are both my quotes. Are you asking me if I'm town reading me? Because yes.In post 53, Servant Alter Ego wrote:
As do IIn post 39, Servant Berserker wrote:You conveniently have the same ability.
Are you townreading Berserker?After I claim mine.
Fine, vote me and I'll make you Master Day 1. Mine is a day phase thing. So we can test it.
Or did you mean Avenger? Because it wasn't that I was town reading Avenger, rather that if only 2 of us had the ability and it WAS the same, I could force test Avenger to see such a thing and lynch if they lied.
But it's moot since well, you know, everyone has it.-
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The thing you are currently claiming is literally what I claimed when I came in.In post 63, Servant Foreigner wrote:
What am I casually ignoring?In post 59, Servant Berserker wrote:he "information" they are missing is information that was and is discussed in thread and they are casually ignoring.
It's also what 3 others also claimed as well.
And now after 4 people did that and went "oh, it's a mechanic not a special feature"
you're in here late to the party going "hey guys vote me I have this ability"
So either you're not reading or.... intentional.
So either neutral at best or scum at worst.-
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Stupid is ubiquitous.In post 66, Servant Foreigner wrote:
Do you really think I believe that's going to get me town read in an anonymous field?In post 65, Servant Berserker wrote:The thing you are currently claiming is literally what I claimed when I came in.
It's also what 3 others also claimed as well.
And now after 4 people did that and went "oh, it's a mechanic not a special feature"
you're in here late to the party going "hey guys vote me I have this ability"
So either you're not reading or.... intentional.
So either neutral at best or scum at worst.
In an anon field, pretending to be dumber than you are and getting "too dumb to be scum" vibes is absolutely a strategy.
So uh.
yes I will lynch people who "oopsie I played bad" in this game because it is impossible to tell true incompetence from masterful falsehood feigning as such.-
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THIS SERVANT IS ON FIREEEIn post 70, Servant Avenger wrote:Are we going to eliminate the foreigner.
Everything foreigner is saying is stilted and oddly worded.
I could make excuses for him, but why would I. My hair is on fire.
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Having the ability is null.In post 71, Servant Beast wrote:Hey guys, checking in. Skimming and trying to get used to reading messages with the avatars all looking the same.
I can confirm I have a similar ability to what several people have claimed so I think that is all null then right?
the way claims occur and how epople acted is not.
Read those pages and make assertions.-
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And the OMGUS to top it off, aided by a "aggressive players are scummy"!In post 74, Servant Foreigner wrote:I don't town read Berserker at all.
Which makes this entire situation feel like utter shit from my POV.
I think this is the easiest "aggro" push you can make.
I think aggro pushes like this are more likely to come from scum then town.
In an anonymous game.
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Yawn. So what, this is the setup?In post 76, Servant Foreigner wrote:
Scum love doing this shit because it always gets them town read.In post 74, Servant Foreigner wrote:I don't town read Berserker at all.
Which makes this entire situation feel like utter shit from my POV.
I think this is the easiest "aggro" push you can make.
I think aggro pushes like this are more likely to come from scum then town.
Berserker is going to back off in 20 pages, further getting more town cred.
It's actual garbage that I've seen 100 times and town has literally never successfully adapted to it.
You'll attack the general concept of aggressiveness instead of addressing anything I've actually posted.
And then make casual claims about what may happen in the future to shape expectations?
What part of what you are doing here is town trying to read people?
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It's that you're making it in an anonymous game as a generic defense. No one can go "no that's not true" because yes, some scum are aggro. Plenty more aren't. No one has meta, no one can "disprove" your statement...In post 82, Servant Foreigner wrote:
How does that statement fall apart in an anonymous game.In post 80, Servant Berserker wrote:And the OMGUS to top it off, aided by a "aggressive players are scummy"!
In an anonymous game.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm :Thinking:
I am saying scum like to go aggro.
Watch a wagon form.
Then back up and get 2 cred in 2 different forms.
You're saying what you can, it's garbage, and it's going to work out for you.
Good job I guess.
but your statement also has no value. Just as many town are aggro too.
And now you're speaking from a perspective of "knowing" I'm scum.
This is not real outrage. Nothing you have said as of so far reads as real. It reads as trying to take advantage of and deflect a situation by creating a fight.-
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It's not about my play, it is about their statement being completely neutral.In post 83, Servant Lancer wrote:What does your play have to do with this game being anon?
It's about them using this is an anonymous game (a fact they stated to try and make a point before I brought it up so they are clearly aware of what the implications are or are at least considering them) as a way to try and deflect and make generalized statements for their own benefit.-
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I agree that no one should read me above neutral for wanting the Master vote.In post 92, Servant Alter Ego wrote:
Town and scum both had strong reason to go after the master upgrade from the start, especially before we learned it's ubiquitous. I think how to act on that is more of a personality thing than an alignment thing.In post 79, Servant Lancer wrote:Berserker trying to strongarm the master vote out of the gate doesn't give me good feelings either.
But also, people should consider I was the first one to claim, and it's a personality thing. If I see a possible exploit, if my role does a bonkers thing, I'm going to push to do that thing.
Now that I know it is ubiquitous, I don't care who gets it as long as I vote for a town read. I'm happy to take it because confirmed town lets me lynch my scum reads with pure force of Rage, but.
It's not important anymore, my role isn't special in that regard.-
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In post 98, Servant Foreigner wrote:
If someone can manage to read this and vote me after.In post 90, Servant Berserker wrote:It's that you're making it in an anonymous game as a generic defense. No one can go "no that's not true" because yes, some scum are aggro. Plenty more aren't. No one has meta, no one can "disprove" your statement...
but your statement also has no value. Just as many town are aggro too.
And now you're speaking from a perspective of "knowing" I'm scum.
This is not real outrage. Nothing you have said as of so far reads as real. It reads as trying to take advantage of and deflect a situation by creating a fight.
Then I am not entirely sure what to say?
I am not saying your scum for being aggro, I think town love to be aggro as well.
I think your sticking your head way too far out, in a way that makes this unnatural aggression for page 4. I am predicting a future line of play that you will do to brace for my flip. Half my read literally depends on shit that hasn't happened I am not fully convinced your scum but I think I know what's going to happen.
Cognitive dissonance.In post 76, Servant Foreigner wrote:
Scum love doing this shit because it always gets them town read.In post 74, Servant Foreigner wrote:I don't town read Berserker at all.
Which makes this entire situation feel like utter shit from my POV.
I think this is the easiest "aggro" push you can make.
I think aggro pushes like this are more likely to come from scum then town.
Berserker is going to back off in 20 pages, further getting more town cred.
It's actual garbage that I've seen 100 times and town has literally never successfully adapted to it.-
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This person can eat a bullet too. That is a super weird response after their initial posts wrt this topic.In post 101, Servant Lancer wrote:
Town and scum both want the master vote, but I don't like how Berserker's trying to control the game and steamroll. They could be town but I'd rather someone who I can be confident is town.In post 95, Servant Assassin wrote:
ok but a couple other people had the same idea so why single out berserkerIn post 79, Servant Lancer wrote:Berserker trying to strongarm the master vote out of the gate doesn't give me good feelings either.-
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Oh I'm sorry. Did the person who I am posting about tell me I'm wrong?In post 103, Servant Foreigner wrote:
It isn't.In post 100, Servant Berserker wrote:Cognitive dissonance.
Well shit, time to pack it up folks. Guess when the person I am accusing tells me I'm wrong to do so I should just stop because they said so, without them even bothernig to defend why I'm wrong.
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Oh worm?In post 106, Servant Avenger wrote:He voted town tho, that’s very anti-scum of him.
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the bolded is the problem. You are trying to defend against something you have imagined as a distraction to your actual scummy responses and play.In post 107, Servant Foreigner wrote:I am still calling you scum in 98?
I think I know what you want to do, I am calling you out for it in advance.
And I think there is more to just the aggro, I am just not going to explain every small detail of my reads if I am not prodded on it. Otherwise all my posts will be essays explaining the varying things that make individual actions less and more likely to be scum.
But you aren't even calling me out for that, you are saying I am backing up on calling you scum in 98. But I literally am calling you scum?
And it's either that you backed up on calling me scum, or backed up on just calling me aggro.
Cause now it's "not that town can't be aggro, it's UNNATURAL AGGRO"
ADVANCED DARKNESS.
My point was, either way, you're shifting the goal posts.-
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It's a weird response because I've already said I don't care about being voted anymore?In post 111, Servant Lancer wrote:
Why's it weird?In post 104, Servant Berserker wrote:This person can eat a bullet too. That is a super weird response after their initial posts wrt this topic.
Multiple times. Once it became clear the power was ubiquitous among townies (4+ people) I no longer cared who got it as long as they were town.
I'm now instead focusing on early game scum hunting and pressure, as you may notice, because I'm not going to be going down the confirmed town 2 days to live plan.
I don't agree that given I let go, you making this post NOW makes any sense. It's a really weird timing issue, especially since I gave it up really fast, too fast for "steamrolling" to be an adequate adjective.-
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???In post 423, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:
Probably Assassin.In post 421, Servant Avenger wrote:@mooncaster, who’s scum?
Vote: Servant Assassin
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You don't care to debate... which means this is a deflection?In post 432, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:That's only scratching the surface of the potential theory discussion, but also I just meant I'm not going to debate the merits of it. The TL;DR of it is that I don't mind this going into what is essentially 10:3 with overpowered scum but with town having a good headstart on interaction analysis. I don't care to discuss whether this is optimal or sub-optimal.
My other reads are less contentious. Archer and Shielder are probably scum. Currently mulling over who makes the most sense as a fourth, but I also just plan to smoke out anyone I'm unsure about by getting rid of the rest of them first.
Your logic here is not prima facie, and flies in the face of the common conception here.
That makes this action either performative for the sake of appearing unique-> town as a fallacy townies make.
Or you genuinely believe this and you're not going to accomplish dick by saying this.
So explain, or don't, but know if you choose don't you aren't getting town points for this.-
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would you vote Avenger?In post 445, Servant Caster wrote:I'm more or less in for the inthread masonry, though I'd be more comfortable electing alter ego or foreigner atm. I don't think we're playing well by honoring foreigner's desire to not be elected when he is obvtown.-
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You get disqualified when someone like Moon wants to vote you.In post 447, Servant Assassin wrote:
my thoughts are you should help moon cancer bus meIn post 446, Servant Caster wrote:What do we think are the odds of someone using the "I want to elect scum" take yo vote their buddy? Or should I be not posting this yet?
No matter their alignment, you're a bad vote.
So is foreigner, btw. I don't trust their judgement.-
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Avenger is very obviously town to my eyes.In post 451, Servant Caster wrote:
Eh. I'm not totally sure why everyone seems to want to.In post 448, Servant Berserker wrote:
would you vote Avenger?In post 445, Servant Caster wrote:I'm more or less in for the inthread masonry, though I'd be more comfortable electing alter ego or foreigner atm. I don't think we're playing well by honoring foreigner's desire to not be elected when he is obvtown.
I think you are also town and would vote you.-
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I don't think Foreigner is particularly town, nor do I trust them to make decisions.
I'm also not sure about Saber's alignment. I worry about anyone who calls me super town and in the same breath tells me that they're "concerned about how I'm confident on Avenger".
Like... my thinking Avenger is town is shaking your core belief I am SO TOWN that much? It shouldn't, it's easy for town to be wrong or for you to disagree with me... and yet you say that?
Makes me feel like you're trying to persuade me off of my vote there or make Avenger less palletable (or perhaps if I stick on him reduce your trust in me so you don't get caught having to work with me?)
It's just a really odd statement from Saber that rubbed me the wrong way, as much as someone finally saying I'm town feels good inside? lol
like no one town reads me. Ever. I'm constantly suspected in all games I'm in for the kind of player I am. Maybe a lot of that is meta based on the kind of game I play, but I like to think a lot of it is just how I play too.-
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I'm still not against taking the Master myself, btw.
My original push was because of role stuff, but now I'm looking at our options and I'm concerned that people would use this wrong.
I'm okay if not enough people trust me to put it in my hands, but I trust my ability to put the powers on the right people enough that I feel like I'd rather have it than Foreigner, who I know I don't trust.-
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This is a very strange timing of a vote.
Why place this vote now?-
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Servant Berserker Goon
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I would vote for Caster out of those.In post 724, Servant Rider wrote:
Assassin. Alter Ego. Caster.In post 717, Servant Berserker wrote:Who do you want to vote, Rider?
Avenger frustrates me. I can't read them; I've read their ISO more than anyone else's in the thread. The best I can say about them is, at the risk of aping Assassin from a few minutes ago, is they've said a few decent things recently. However, there's also a few things they've said recently that I don't like. None of this adds up to a townread or a scumread for me, and add that to the fact that I have solid townreads on Assassin and Alter, a liquid townread on Caster and gaseous townreads on a couple of others, I'm not voting for a damn question mark.Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Where does your aversion to voting Avenger come from, Rider? Your trajectory™ on him is weird - at no point do you say you think he's scum, just that you aren't confident in the town read but you also think it's unlikely scum were gunning for master?
Further, I do believe scum isn't going hard for the master. But if I'm wrong and they are, it's Avenger. So that's why I'm not voting them today.
I refuse to vote Assassin, they sketch me out, and I just don't trust AE to make good choices.
Like that assassin wagon does not inspire confidence in me.-
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In post 810, Cabd wrote:Vote Count M-11
Assassin(5): Archer, Foreigner, Rider, Moon Cancer, Alter Ego
Avenger (4): Avenger, Berserker, Beast,Assassin
Caster (3): Saber, Lancer, Caster
Rider (1): Ruler
Saber (1): Shielder
Phase Page Count: 33/60
With 14 servants alive, it takes 8 votes to lock in a master. Otherwise, a master will be selected by plurality rules in: (expired on 2020-09-08 21:23:37)
This should tell you all you need to know about why I'm not okay with Assassin winning this vote. No one should be okay with Assassin wining this vote.
Plus Foreigner and Alter Ego are both ON the wagon?
Nope nope nope nope nope.-
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Your read on me is inconsequential to my actions, so this post is kind of pointless. You have gone back and forth on me so many times for so many bad reasons, at this point it feels as if you're just picking whatever suits the mood you need to have that day.In post 819, Servant Foreigner wrote:I think Berserker is going too deep to go against literally everything I am doing.
I had a small period of time where I liked it but it's kind of gone out the other end and I just scum read her again.
Which, I can't tell if you're just a pissant who is crybabying that they aren't getting their way, or if you're scum and it's opportunistically done (i.e: I need to discredit her here, so I will use this to put my read there).
In either case, I don't trust your opinion worth a damn.-
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I'm scum reading AE.In post 818, Servant Rider wrote:Also, Berserker, you don't want an Assassin vote because AE and Foreigner are on the wagon and Assassin himself "sketches you out". What, then, do you think of Assassin voting for Avenger, and that both Foreigner and AE have declared they're okay with voting Caster?
Are you scumreading AE, Foreigner and Assassin?
Assassin sketches me, and I wouldn't mind seeing them die. Your own wagon being the top wagon, and you not voting for it... witht he things Assassin has already said this game?
It makes 0 sense. Less than 0 sense.
Foreigner has done so much bad this game, it concerns me that I might just be seeing a player who doesn't give a shit? Like I worry about killing them and them being bad town, but it doesn't mean I need to trust their ability to play the game.-
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Servant Berserker Goon
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In post 822, Servant Assassin wrote:
lol just lolIn post 816, Servant Berserker wrote:In post 810, Cabd wrote:Vote Count M-11
Assassin(5): Archer, Foreigner, Rider, Moon Cancer, Alter Ego
Avenger (4): Avenger, Berserker, Beast,Assassin
Caster (3): Saber, Lancer, Caster
Rider (1): Ruler
Saber (1): Shielder
Phase Page Count: 33/60
With 14 servants alive, it takes 8 votes to lock in a master. Otherwise, a master will be selected by plurality rules in: (expired on 2020-09-08 21:23:37)
This should tell you all you need to know about why I'm not okay with Assassin winning this vote. No one should be okay with Assassin wining this vote.
Plus Foreigner and Alter Ego are both ON the wagon?
Nope nope nope nope nope.
Like, Rider. Look at this response and tell me this is a person you are comfortable with as town.In post 823, Servant Assassin wrote:fwiw there probably are scum on my wagon though
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This is also a fucking terribad post and AE should be killed for it.In post 805, Servant Alter Ego wrote:
Ahhh!In post 804, Servant Avenger wrote:Wow, are you actually mafia? Lol.
Players who refuse to post a complete reads list with reasoning is mafia. Wow, this game's going to be easy.
Exercise to the reader to discover why. First one in gets brownie points.-
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In post 800, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Did you miss 791 or are you choosing not to respond to it?In post 791, Servant Avenger wrote:Changing tack. Rider, if you don't mind, would you give a complete list of your reads and your reasoning for each of them?In post 801, Servant Rider wrote:The latter.In post 802, Servant Avenger wrote:And why are you ignoring it?In post 803, Servant Rider wrote:In post 793, Servant Rider wrote:Pedit: No, I don't think I will. You know who I want to vote for today.In post 804, Servant Avenger wrote:Wow, are you actually mafia? Lol.
Here is a complete quote wall of the context involving the post I pointed at. No one got the right answer, I'm very sad, but let me begin to explain why this exchange is + for Moon Cancer and Rider, and - - - ! for AE.In post 805, Servant Alter Ego wrote:
Ahhh!In post 804, Servant Avenger wrote:Wow, are you actually mafia? Lol.
Players who refuse to post a complete reads list with reasoning is mafia. Wow, this game's going to be easy.
In this exchange, Rider is standing for their principles and making moves for what they want to happen, to happen. Challenging them is Avenger and Moon Cancer.
This whole exchange comes out neutral for Avenger, who was already kind of on this track for a while, and I don't really think his demanding a list of reads is alignment indicative. Nor is poking at rider calling them scum. I guess I already think they are town, so it's just not chaning my opinion is what I mean.
Rider on the other hand, standing up for themselves with no explination, no need to fight about it, just... doing it.
Huge plus.
Moon Cancer poking Rider about answering 791 when it was being ignored, huge town plus for info and alignment gathering.
Here's what I don't like about AE stepping in there. The timing.
What is the purpose of AE's comment? The sarcasm doesn't elicit new reads from anyone, doesn't intone anything that stands for them as a position (they don't really take a side) and they don't allow Rider to answer for their things. I know Rider was unabashed about it in general, but part of this is allowing a player who is being poked to BE POKED.
But they didn't. They stepped in and helped control the narrative and make Avenger look silly.
I think, personally, one of Assassin or Caster has to be scum WITH AE, as a result of this. I think this is the kind of post that someone who is looking to more or less goof on Avenger and make them look silly and unpalletable for a vote would do. It attacks their character and standing without having to take a stance and being very under the radar.
And you might say "you're reading too much into it, it was a joke" but I feel as if there must be a motivation for AE to feel the need to step into that 3 man conversation instead of lettingit play out, JUST to post that. And I can't find a good town reason to have done it.
At that timing, with those words?
AE looks a lot worse. And when you consider AE's stances on the current wagons, things start to fall into place.-
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Servant Berserker Goon
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