Guns & Roses IV [Game Over]

Firebringer · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:43 pm

first

VOTE: votato

Firebringer · Post Post #7 (isolation #1) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:46 pm

In post 5, votato wrote:
In post 4, Firebringer wrote:first

VOTE: votato
yeah same, me too.
VOTE: votato

FoS on lilith cuz peer pressure is bad.

I like ur hat and ur vote.

ill consider u town for today.

Firebringer · Post Post #9 (isolation #2) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:48 pm

its left over from his dance games he didn't edit out.

Firebringer · Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:50 pm

@votato what will u do once ur the chosen townie?

Firebringer · Post Post #15 (isolation #4) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:53 pm

In post 12, eyestott wrote:Hmmmm, maybe it's in here for a reason, like fine print in the terms and conditions that gives you a million dollars if you actually read it

Challenge: Firebringer

LETS GO BRO

u just activated my trap card.

Firebringer · Post Post #18 (isolation #5) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:56 pm

yes

@votato: Is that a boy?

Firebringer · Post Post #20 (isolation #6) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:58 pm

cute regardless.

Firebringer · Post Post #22 (isolation #7) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:02 pm

no, im def scum bro.

I just called u town and I am still voting u. Seems like a scum to me. I rest my scum case of me.

Firebringer · Post Post #23 (isolation #8) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:03 pm

In post 21, votato wrote:also, are we to believe that scum dont have a PT in this game? it mentions a PT in the rules during the night phase, but thats the only place i found it mentioned. the rules have already been noted as flawed tho. also, I'm getting dangerously close to not getting page 1 lynched. step it up!

scum have a pt/discord.

probably just PT. I don't think fg likes discord.

Firebringer · Post Post #26 (isolation #9) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:05 pm

ur arguments are really hard to beat.

Firebringer · Post Post #37 (isolation #10) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:30 pm

In post 33, Something_Smart wrote:The best way to get out of RVS as quickly as possible is to not do RVS.

do u actually want to get out of rvs cause this isn't doing it.

In post 34, lilith2013 wrote:Then consider my vote non-RVS.

yeah, this is still an rvs vote lol

Firebringer · Post Post #42 (isolation #11) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:57 pm

hey albert, longtime no play, how u doin

Firebringer · Post Post #135 (isolation #12) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:54 am

I have all the guns

Firebringer · Post Post #142 (isolation #13) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:02 am

In post 138, farside22 wrote:Id vote cakes too.
Fire you are being warned to do something more.

I can do more but it’s against my religion.

I have a strategy this game and it involves the guns outing to be confirmed ICs

Firebringer · Post Post #146 (isolation #14) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:09 am

My plans are the best, no downsides at all, doesn’t exist

Firebringer · Post Post #148 (isolation #15) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:25 am

What are those supposed to mean?

Firebringer · Post Post #169 (isolation #16) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:11 pm

In post 150, chkflip wrote:I'm
always
angry.

Even during sex?

Firebringer · Post Post #174 (isolation #17) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:13 pm

In post 172, lilith2013 wrote:.................

I read 41 in the same way I read your 49. Dry, sarcastic humor. Dude.

The detail and flavor in role pms are really good tho

Firebringer · Post Post #182 (isolation #18) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:16 pm

In post 181, lilith2013 wrote:Tbh I don’t trust ABR reads whatsoever so that basically means votato is conftown for me

Okay......

Firebringer · Post Post #184 (isolation #19) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:18 pm

R u a gangster now?

Firebringer · Post Post #186 (isolation #20) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:21 pm

I think cakez is scum because he didn’t say hi to me btw

Firebringer · Post Post #190 (isolation #21) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:25 pm

Something smart is def town between interactions with Lilith.

Firebringer · Post Post #194 (isolation #22) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:28 pm

In post 193, farside22 wrote:
In post 189, chkflip wrote:Hard and immediate backtrack noted.
Still reading as trying too hard.

Idk if u read chkflip posts in other games this is kind of just his personality ur seeing.

Not really alignment indicative

Firebringer · Post Post #196 (isolation #23) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:29 pm

In post 191, farside22 wrote:MEEEOOOOWWWWW

I agree and like this comment with 2 thumbsup

Firebringer · Post Post #198 (isolation #24) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:30 pm

In post 197, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 194, Firebringer wrote:
In post 193, farside22 wrote:
In post 189, chkflip wrote:Hard and immediate backtrack noted.
Still reading as trying too hard.
Idk if u read chkflip posts in other games this is kind of just his personality ur seeing.

Not really alignment indicative
Man, this is him all the time?

It’s a personality that grows on u.

Firebringer · Post Post #203 (isolation #25) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:36 pm

In post 201, lilith2013 wrote:No thanks. I’m way less excited about this game now.

Wow If ur not excited for face huggers latching onto u and growing on u. What even excites u?!

Firebringer · Post Post #206 (isolation #26) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:40 pm

In post 204, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 200, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 187, lilith2013 wrote:What is this face for?
It's an unamused glare.
From the games that I remember, ABR is an absolutely dominant force and just yells at people until he gets his way. I think it’s better for at least one person to not let themselves get pressured into joining ABR’s pushes. Do you disagree?

I don’t think I’ve seen that version of ABR in awhile.

Also not feeling like he will do that in this game

Firebringer · Post Post #210 (isolation #27) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:41 pm

Something smart what do u think of my townread on u?

Am I right or what?

Firebringer · Post Post #213 (isolation #28) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:43 pm

In post 212, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 210, Firebringer wrote:Something smart what do u think of my townread on u?

Am I right or what?
Yes you're right and tentatively it makes you town.

I knew I could count on u to townread me when I townread u.
What a glorious day for the town

Firebringer · Post Post #216 (isolation #29) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:45 pm

In post 215, lilith2013 wrote:Like are you only going to get half bullied onto the wagon? That’s not a thing.

I will fully bully u onto the wagon of my choosing. I will show u what real bullying is!!! ABR can’t out perform my bullying.

Firebringer · Post Post #218 (isolation #30) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:46 pm

U smell.

Get on the viable wagon.

Ur reads are bad too. Just sheep me

Firebringer · Post Post #221 (isolation #31) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:48 pm

In post 220, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 218, Firebringer wrote:U smell.

Get on the viable wagon.

Ur reads are bad too. Just sheep me
Weak

Ur mom is weak.

Firebringer · Post Post #223 (isolation #32) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:50 pm

Well ur mom told me ur bad at mafia.

Firebringer · Post Post #239 (isolation #33) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:18 pm

VOTE: Cakes

Let’s lynch cakez for the horde

Firebringer · Post Post #295 (isolation #34) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:50 pm

In post 277, DonCorleone wrote:Hmm, momo is posting a elsewhere on site but chose not to respond to his role PM in this game. Also, firebringer appears to be happy. I’m moving him out of my townreads and into my probable scum group.

thank u sir

Firebringer · Post Post #354 (isolation #35) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:34 pm

I think mass claim is fine given how few guns we have and how many roses there are. Just don't claim night.

Its really fine. 3 ICs is good.

Firebringer · Post Post #356 (isolation #36) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:45 pm

In post 355, Knightmare491 wrote:2. One of the scum claims to have a gun.... Result - we get a lynchpool of 4, 25% chance to hit scum, vigs shoot within this pool. Guaranteed to lynch scum by day 2/3.

btw mathematically this is scums best bet if we did a mass claim. So almost assuredly this is the end result.

This still improves towns chances though since they have to sacrifice one of their own to get slaughtered. But it still increases town win chances.

Firebringer · Post Post #358 (isolation #37) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:50 pm

In post 357, eyestott wrote:except we dont know how many guns scum have!
what if they all claim rose, and manage to NK all three guns in night 1?

they aren't all picking N1 gun.
ive plyed this setup like twice.

even in that situation they need to kill roses for their win con.

Firebringer · Post Post #362 (isolation #38) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:53 pm

In post 361, eyestott wrote:They do also get a factional kill, but good point.

i don't think they can multitask and shoot 4 players in a night.

Firebringer · Post Post #366 (isolation #39) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:55 pm

In post 363, Something_Smart wrote:They can.

i don't believe u.

Firebringer · Post Post #369 (isolation #40) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:56 pm

In post 367, Knightmare491 wrote:
In post 362, Firebringer wrote:
In post 361, eyestott wrote:They do also get a factional kill, but good point.
i don't think they can multitask and shoot 4 players in a night.
I asked the mod yesterday, they can.

that's op.

Firebringer · Post Post #371 (isolation #41) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:59 pm

ive been wanting to call u elbirn for so long because of that avi.

Firebringer · Post Post #380 (isolation #42) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:22 pm

do people think this is an actual plot by scum or just like a strategy u disagree with? because saying its a plot by scum is kind of stupid if u ask me.

I suggested the exact same thing.

Firebringer · Post Post #382 (isolation #43) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:24 pm

In post 379, votato wrote:scum points to anyone who supports it, and extra scum points to Knightmare for not reading the thread.

woot i get free scum points.

Firebringer · Post Post #413 (isolation #44) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:37 am

farside i am considering claiming just to troll u.

talk me out of it

Firebringer · Post Post #415 (isolation #45) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:27 am

i have a rose

Firebringer · Post Post #416 (isolation #46) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:29 am

In post 414, farside22 wrote:What is your thoughts on knightmare?

ehhh i guess town for same reasons u gave. although u said it wasn't really NAI, him heavy pushing it against resistance was townie

if i was really hunting for scum i would look in the people pushing him for his heavy pushing him because scum like to go for the low hanging fruit push that is knightmare rn.

Don Corleon kind of has me pinged that way

Firebringer · Post Post #417 (isolation #47) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:31 am

i don't think chkflip push on knightmare for that strat is AI for chkflip. He has a boomer mentality regarding the strat itself so I don't expect that to be a real "Ohh look something easy for me to push"

Firebringer · Post Post #421 (isolation #48) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:32 am

if I gave u my rose, it would make my e-girlfriend very jealous.

Firebringer · Post Post #422 (isolation #49) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:33 am

In post 419, Paragon wrote:If Knightmare is scum, I don't think he pushes this strategy to take advantage of it, I think he pushes it to either get townread by pushing something strongly opinionated, or uses this as a way to make content.

or even crazier. he believes its a good strategy. Crazy I know.

Its not a terrible strat like everyone here pretends.

Firebringer · Post Post #474 (isolation #50) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:36 pm

this game really slowed down

Firebringer · Post Post #475 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:38 pm

Cakez, u didn't even react to my vote.

R U DODGING ME FOR FEAR OF MY ELITE SKILZL!?!?

Firebringer · Post Post #477 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:40 pm

chkflip ur vote is wasted on knightmare more than half the players townread him at this point.

join my cakez wagon for the horde!

Firebringer · Post Post #479 (isolation #53) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:43 pm

no boomer u join me.

Firebringer · Post Post #481 (isolation #54) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:44 pm

In post 480, SirCakez wrote:
In post 475, Firebringer wrote:Cakez, u didn't even react to my vote.

R U DODGING ME FOR FEAR OF MY ELITE SKILZL!?!?
I already dared you to fight me and it didn't happen

okay, I challenge u to a children's card game.

Firebringer · Post Post #482 (isolation #55) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:45 pm

cakez half ur posts look like ur putting on a show for us. Want to answer for what show ur putting on and why?!

cause otherwise I will humiliate u with this children's card game.

Firebringer · Post Post #515 (isolation #56) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:03 pm

this game is boring me

Firebringer · Post Post #516 (isolation #57) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:04 pm

In post 483, SirCakez wrote:Idk
I'm trying to scumhunt??

I don't really buy this

Firebringer · Post Post #521 (isolation #58) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:16 pm

In post 520, Vecna wrote:
In post 415, Firebringer wrote:i have a rose
Scumclaim! (but we already knew that)

yeah man, I claimed scum in my fourth post. aren't u slow on the uptake

Firebringer · Post Post #527 (isolation #59) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:27 pm

In post 526, Vecna wrote:
In post 521, Firebringer wrote:
In post 520, Vecna wrote:
In post 415, Firebringer wrote:i have a rose
Scumclaim! (but we already knew that)
yeah man, I claimed scum in my fourth post. aren't u slow on the uptake
Why did you take that serious again?

I take nothing seriously. u know me better than that

Firebringer · Post Post #529 (isolation #60) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:30 pm

woah ive been logic looped to insanity.

u win this round vecna

Firebringer · Post Post #531 (isolation #61) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:32 pm

I don't get ur any of ur points still. but I will still give u the point because trying to think at this hour isn't working.

Firebringer · Post Post #532 (isolation #62) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:33 pm

In post 530, Vecna wrote:Townreads:
Vecna
chkflip
eyestott
Knightmare491 (debatable, but unless scum really has a strong plan, I dont think the way he has pushed it would be a scum hill to die on)

Maybe 1 scum:
SirCakez
lilith2013
farside22
DonCorleone
votato

Suspected pool of 2 additional scum
Paragon
Firebringer
Iconeum
Something_Smart
Paragon

Scum
Albert B. Rampage

how did u build these 2 pools separately?

Firebringer · Post Post #534 (isolation #63) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:35 pm

In post 533, Vecna wrote:
In post 529, Firebringer wrote:woah ive been logic looped to insanity.

u win this round vecna
I also feel town-you would be scumreading me after this mediocre catchup

im gonna townread u just to screw with u instead then

Firebringer · Post Post #538 (isolation #64) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:39 pm

ur welcome for the townread.

Firebringer · Post Post #539 (isolation #65) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:42 pm

we should lynch vecna since he is town.

No town is allowed to be alive.

Firebringer · Post Post #541 (isolation #66) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:25 am

why u townreading cakez?

Firebringer · Post Post #796 (isolation #67) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:57 am

In post 795, Vecna wrote:VOTE: Farside

u have my attention on this bad vote.

Firebringer · Post Post #817 (isolation #68) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:16 am

VOTE: mariar

Firebringer · Post Post #824 (isolation #69) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:44 am

How u been mariar? I missed u nerd

Firebringer · Post Post #829 (isolation #70) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:52 am

if cakez reads me as scum, he must be town. The prophecy decreed it.

Firebringer · Post Post #831 (isolation #71) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:19 pm

I don't remember u doing that.

Firebringer · Post Post #832 (isolation #72) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:20 pm

wait did I townread u for scumreading me then too?

Firebringer · Post Post #835 (isolation #73) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:21 pm

im being really lazy so I am just gonna sy u pointing that out gives u town points.

Firebringer · Post Post #836 (isolation #74) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:24 pm

if I just townread all the people scumreading me. I am sure I can get my scumreads to think I am town. therefore guaranteeing my win.

Ez PZ

Firebringer · Post Post #837 (isolation #75) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:24 pm

woops wrong thread

Firebringer · Post Post #838 (isolation #76) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:25 pm

MariaR/DonCoreleone and someone else for my last scum.

idk.

Maybe I should just throw a dart at playerlist.

Firebringer · Post Post #839 (isolation #77) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:26 pm

I am gonna go with eyestott because knigthmare interactions.

Firebringer · Post Post #841 (isolation #78) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:41 pm

VOTE: eyestott
okay

Firebringer · Post Post #853 (isolation #79) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:16 pm

sounds kinky

Firebringer · Post Post #856 (isolation #80) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:20 pm

In post 854, DonCorleone wrote:God, I wish.

u know it is

In post 855, DonCorleone wrote:Can you at least do more amusing shitposting if we’re not lynching you todsy?

wow look at this person trying to get me to flame them.

im not falling into that trap, I CAN TELL U WANT IT!

Firebringer · Post Post #857 (isolation #81) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:22 pm

In post 844, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 838, Firebringer wrote:MariaR/DonCoreleone and someone else for my last scum.
Asking why is probably a mistake but: why?

ur interactions with knightmare gave me the first scum ping I have had all gme. looked like ur were going for that easy scum push of "hey look I am pushing someone who is pushing a scum agenda. I am being townie"

Firebringer · Post Post #859 (isolation #82) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:23 pm

I never produce content. don't u go spreading lies around.

Firebringer · Post Post #862 (isolation #83) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:25 pm

In post 860, DonCorleone wrote:Flip side, I guess that does make sense if you don’t believe my scumread on Knightmare was sincere. I know that it was, so why do you think it wasn’t?

because the way u did it how I have seen scum do it almost always? seemed the most like someone projecting an opinion rather than an actual one. More show, less genuineness.

I believe chkflip arguing against it calling it bad. U..no.

Firebringer · Post Post #864 (isolation #84) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:30 pm

im almost intrigued by ur approach to me rn btw. Its very strange.

Firebringer · Post Post #865 (isolation #85) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:30 pm

like a lot of aloofness/detachment from the questions involving urself. That ur probably trying to walk on ice maybe? Feels a bit awkward.

Firebringer · Post Post #867 (isolation #86) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:41 pm

where did u get that hat anyways?

Firebringer · Post Post #869 (isolation #87) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:43 pm

wwhhhhhhattt

I only townread u for ur hat and ur telling me its a horn now?!?!?!?!

WHY DOES IT HVE THT STRING ATTACHED THEN!

Firebringer · Post Post #926 (isolation #88) » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:49 pm

In post 914, SirCakez wrote:ah
this game is weirdly dead

its pretty boring tbh.

Firebringer · Post Post #928 (isolation #89) » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:18 pm

In post 905, chkflip wrote:Damn near half the game is sitting at around a day from their last post. Are the lurking? Is that information particularly telling or useful at this point in the game? I don't really think so.

I think ur making this game boring. Liven it up with a joke or 2.

Firebringer · Post Post #935 (isolation #90) » Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:57 am

I don't know cpr

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:07 am

In post 1032, MariaR wrote:
In post 1029, lilith2013 wrote:Okay, is this better: you're calling me fake for playing emotionally
I'm saying part of your emotions are exaggerated/planned

Isn’t this what u do most of the time tho

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:09 am

In post 992, farside22 wrote:Not with players like NM, Fire,............I need another name of a crazy hat player but you get the idea.

U just wish u had a cool looking hat like mine

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:10 am

In post 1082, chkflip wrote:What do you think of all this flamedawg?

I think women are really catty

And we need superior weapons to defend ourselves from them

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:12 am

In post 1050, MariaR wrote:you forgot to point out the key point in that second statement: Aggressive.

Not an inconsistency. Good try though

One inconsistency is also like not a scum tell.

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:12 am

MariaR u def feel like ur scum.
I should probably townread u for that tho.

Idk it’s hard to ignore

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:47 pm

In post 1102, SirCakez wrote:Maria might not be scum here?? I like her response to this push honestly. It's very reasoned and
she seems legimitaely frustrated.

r u certain u got the right username....

we are talking about MariaR.

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:49 pm

In post 1088, farside22 wrote:Vote her!!

I AM CONFLICTED WITH MARIAR!

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:54 pm

In post 1109, SirCakez wrote:I haven't played with MariaR in several years
Is this her typical meta?
farside SRing me for that is ridiculous

95% of the emotions MariaR makes are fakeable.

Firebringer · Post Post #1116 (isolation #99) » Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:24 pm

u could just vote eyestott

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:29 pm

does anyone have town passion here?

I mean besides farside who lost hers just recently. So sad to see.

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:33 pm

In post 1119, SirCakez wrote:some have it more than others
some never have it

this sounds deep.

anyways, u should be voting eyestott buddy

In post 1120, chkflip wrote:Did she lose her smile?

yes

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:40 pm

who the hell u talking about getting coached?

u need to play mafia more. Players don't get coached. That is so rare it might as well be a unicorn.

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:45 pm

In post 1125, chkflip wrote:You need to get out of my life and shut up.

Ruining all our lives and eating all our steak.

No but really the turnaround in play from, ahem, the unicorn is too telling for me to ignore my dude.

I will never stop eating ur steak

Firebringer · Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:02 pm

ok...………….

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:13 am

VOTE: mariar
lets get something going

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:38 am

In post 1141, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 926, Firebringer wrote:
In post 914, SirCakez wrote:ah
this game is weirdly dead
its pretty boring tbh.
You said this and then it popped off like 10 pages in a day

r u saying I should call this game boring more?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:42 am

This game is sooooo BOOORRRIINNNNNGGG

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:43 am

In post 1157, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 1068, farside22 wrote:Do you see mariah's pov in the post?
Nope, I’m not seeing her as posting from an informed perspective

you think she would? or is this normally how u scumhunt looking for informed perspectives?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:44 am

In post 1158, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1138, DonCorleone wrote:Catching up, but farside I don’t understand your progression on me — I thought I was a SR for you, what did I do since then to not be in your solve?
this is a post coming from town mindset

Iconeum. I can't tell u how wrong u are. Now go rawr in the corner in shame.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:45 am

In post 1161, DonCorleone wrote:Can we lynch ABR now?

what informed perspective is ABR showing? Where?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:47 am

In post 1168, DonCorleone wrote:I don’t think ABR is showing an informed perspective, I just don’t think he’s trying to solve the game

so not solving = scum; u realize not every town player is gonna put forward the solve effort day 1, right?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:48 am

In post 1169, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 1167, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1164, DonCorleone wrote:We have 15 hrs let’s make this happen!
yes! your vote for maria shouldn't take more then a few seconds
Why would I vote for town though, icon?

ur role pm commands u to vote town, don.

COME ON!

mafia 101.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:49 am

In post 1173, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 1170, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1168, DonCorleone wrote:I don’t think ABR is showing an informed perspective, I just don’t think he’s trying to solve the game
so not solving = scum; u realize not every town player is gonna put forward the solve effort day 1, right?
I mean yeah, not solving = scum a decent amount of the time. Probably more of the time than lynching in people who at least look like they’re trying to solve?

ummm not from my experience?

I guess we have to define how much we are talking about with decent amount of time because on a long enough time scale that might as well be random shooting players.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:57 am

In post 1180, Iconeum wrote:can we lynch maria and then Don?

I thought u just called Don town?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:02 am

In post 1184, DonCorleone wrote:Maria being sarky and not appeasing

I see u now have met MariaR

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:03 am

is Lilith massively townread in this game? Ive been meh on her in the beginning and she has just felt try hard in this game like she wants to prove something.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:05 am

I could see Lilith as scum easily. Just not like idk. I think she would be a bit more awkward try hard if she was. So I am nullish on her.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:08 am

In post 1191, DonCorleone wrote:I think Lilith is pretty broadly TR yeah? And I think she’s solving

What is your criteria for finding scum anyway firebringer?

my criteria is to look for clues in which people are acting in a way I don't think is within normal behavioral guidelines and then figure out if its that is a situational aspect or if its motivated by alignment.

I figure out baseline player behavior then I sort who is falling out of that more often and try to pinpoint after.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:09 am

In post 1190, DonCorleone wrote:viewtopic.php?t=82590&f=23&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

Look how measured and reasonable Maria is in this game

Now compare and contrast with her this game and where she’s pushed

I don't know if I agree with this analysis.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:13 am

I think u have a decent understanding of how mariar might operate scum/town; I just don't think its been applied her correctly.

ill just say town her isn't afraid of saying anything because she doesn't mind of she gets shouted down for her opinions.
scum her isn't afraid as well but can smooth it over by appearing more reasonable measured and less aggressive which gets her scumread less.

I don't find her that aggressive here.

So I don't know if I agree with ur analysis.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:14 am

In post 988, MariaR wrote:THE DOUBLE SCUM TAG TEAM OH BABY I LOVE THIS. Live interaction is my stick lets go, sweeties,

like this post isn't that aggressive.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:16 am

I prefer interacting with people in real time to figure out behavior/mindset is better because the longer between posts the harder it is to determine what is influencing what in a persons mind.

one post doesn't a scum make, a group of posts or a repeating process.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:21 am

uve made me less certain of a scum maria rn. But I still think both ur analysis and mine is a bit superficial.

or maybe I over think maria given my terrible track record.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:23 am

Like scum maria can def be rude as fuck. She just is usually more cordial. I don't feel like she has posted enough for me to accurately sy "ohh yeah she is doing her scum play of soft but strong pushes" or town because "she is willing to and is fighting anyone without any fucks given".

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:27 am

yeah I guess I was thinking don is town too.

Rip strongest scumread.

I miss when I had scumreads that were so strong and pervasive in my mind and then I lynch them and they were scum. That euphoria. Rip confidences.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:30 am

its okay im scum this game and im gonna beat u and get that satisfaction anyways.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:34 am

idek what cakez is doing this game. Is he forcing himself to post when he does? it feels like theres a bit of that in his postings.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:36 am

In post 1214, DonCorleone wrote:Fire, Lilith, Maria, chkflip, votato have done things that make them unlikely scum

im def scum, don't be rude.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:37 am

In post 1216, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 1211, Firebringer wrote:its okay im scum this game and im gonna beat u and get that satisfaction anyways.
I’m gonna be very disappointed if your scumtell is actually as easy as “seems excited about the game and actually plays = warmpupper!scum”

I am actually super bored of this game. I just have no other exciting games to occupy my time rn.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:39 am

im just gonna say it because ive been thinking it for awhile.
I think ABR hs been quiet is because he doesn't want to be shot tonight and he has one of the town guns.

So id kind of rather ignore him today

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:42 am

seems less likely to me

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:43 am

In post 1223, DonCorleone wrote:Also if you’re a town gun then surely it also doesn’t make sense to stay so quiet that you risk being lynched and being forced to claim/just lynched and not being able to shoot

I don't think ABR fears getting lynched Day 1. at all

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:43 am

or I should say "I don't think abr even imagines he gets mislynched day 1".

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:44 am

knightmare def town.

I could vote eyestott again.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:48 am

In post 1229, farside22 wrote:or he is scum.Just saying there are a few quiet players in the game. But, but, but, I will play devil's advocate and allow that possibility go for now.

idk I feel like I might be overthinking abr mindset since he isn't posting much to show what he is really thinking and this could all just be he just isn't interested in this game.

a literal he just isn't interested in us. What a shame.

But ABR is one of those players I consider in that big egocentric mindsets. And that mindset would definitely go for the whole plan of "well I have a gun, ill lie low so scum don't try to shoot me since I am a strong player, and then I can aim at whoever I find scum"

I mean I would consider that thought process to naturally comes to someone like ABR it makes so much sense that is his approach right now.

If he had a rose, even if he wasn't interested I think he would have posted more.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:51 am

btw I picked rose so town wouldn't shoot me.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:52 am

also everyone thinks I would naturally go for a gun so me going against wht people expect me to do is my modus operandi

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:53 am

In post 1239, lilith2013 wrote:Eh I don’t think a scumbuddy would defend this openly and this hard

ive hardclaimed masons with my scumbuddy before! don't tell me how hard I would defend my buddies!

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:55 am

btw I am masons with ABR.

fakegod made a last minute change to setup. He will announce it later sometime. Maybe post game.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:56 am

In post 1242, farside22 wrote:I am silently crying inside.

we will kill u last farside. After u have been beaten so bad and then u will beg us for the sweet release of death.

And then me being merciful, I shall oblige.

=)

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:59 am

In post 1244, DonCorleone wrote:I believe you’d go for a rose

last time I played this I was scum and I took a rose.

sadly it didn't save me from being shot by town.
Shouldn't have picked Night 3 rose.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:01 am

and whats tragic is i had majority of town except for one of the town fooled!
that one town had a gun and shot me on Night 2.

it was tragic.

we still won though. My teammates both had guns.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:32 am

pls don't shoot farside

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:35 am

In post 1258, Albert B. Rampage wrote:DonCorleone = Nachomama8?

Firebringer, can you figure things out today so I can lend you my mason vote for the win?

no doncorleone is not nachomamma8

sure, u can start with eyescott vote.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:40 am

VOTE: eyestott

okay but i think Lilith is the only one purposefully ignoring ur reads.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:42 am

In post 1261, votato wrote:I think eyestoot and knightmare are aligned. Most likely both town, but possibly both scum therefore both pushing the same shit play and then distancing. Their conflict is a bit overdone. But still probably both town. I'm leaning towards Don c, lilith, and chk being scum. Im still Sl on farside. I could be talked into an ss, vecna, or maria wagon. I still maintain that yesterday's push on Maria was awful.

can i interest u in progression by ignoring ur read on eyestott to vote him anyways?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:44 am

im not talking about a push. talking about a lynch. unless u think eyestott flip doesn't equal progression

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:47 am

In post 1268, votato wrote:We still have time

don't mke me an angry fire and shout at u

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:51 am

Something smart would u like to join us on the eyescott wagon for old times sake as on old scum buddy of mine?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:52 am

VOTE: eyestott

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:56 am

god this game is so sad.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:56 am

ill be here for deadline. see you all later.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:22 am

In post 1328, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1309, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1307, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1305, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I think EVERY TOWN in this game on some level suspected I was town gun playing it cool
I have not ftr
You're not town either now are you?
See this is a scum post
Town doesn't just assume people pushing them = scum

ummm cakez, u know that isn't true

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:25 am

In post 1334, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Cakez and DC are scumbuddies. Lilith / farside are sheep-town victims, bait for the wolves to draw the flock.

Lilith and farside are def sheeping everything in sight.

i wonder if i should be worried about that

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:27 am

i think cakez is town. I am weaker on DC but his convo with me felt town in his thought processes. His push on you doesn't seem genuine in my mind because he seems to be ignoring what ur doing. Like not trying to figure u out. But ur kind of doing this bluster thing so maybe he thinks its better for him to ignore it for most part?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:28 am

when people have personal history i don't know about...man motivations behind pushes become so muddy to figure out why people are acting the wy they do.

i have to consider DC push on ABR as NAI but it seems so stupid.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:31 am

In post 1343, Vecna wrote:did you agree with the DC logic on maria woofer?

I disagreed on his analysis of this game but his analysis of past gmes of maria we agreed on. Did u read the full convo or just his posts?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:32 am

In post 1344, farside22 wrote:Lets look at the contradictions here. Claims gun. Prior said he had no gun.Calls lillith scum next xalled town

none of that means anything

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:35 am

In post 1340, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Look up past DC scum games. Same BS.

ugh fine ill go skim past DC games

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:37 am

god damn it. this is a new alt.
and I still don't know who DC is.

it isn't nacho
it isn't spiffeh

Who the fuck is it? I feel like I should know!

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:38 am

In post 1358, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1353, Vecna wrote:Lets lynch cakez and give ABR the joy of shooting DC tonight
Wtf? You just said you thought ABR vs DC was a TvT, and now you want ABR to shoot DC?

he is helping my win conditions.

thanks vecna

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:41 am

is abr going to tell me who is DC or not?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:43 am

In post 1374, Vecna wrote:
In post 1370, Firebringer wrote:is abr going to tell me who is DC or not?
Its sort of an interesting mystery though.

He doesnt sound like bingle

But he pretends he knows me well

he knows Paragon.

Is that a hint?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:46 am

wow paragon hasn't played tht many gmes.

Wait holy shit is DonCorleone = Enter?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:51 am

wait is Don = Fakran? I should probably read posts and try to match them up.

Paragon only played in 3 games. This should be easy to figure out.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:52 am

In post 1394, Vecna wrote:I dont know enter or fakran, and he talked like he knew me well fire

I can give u the playerlists and u tell me which one u think it is.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:55 am

Spoiler: Plyer list puzzle

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:59 am

In post 1411, Vecna wrote:I like being called a bastard in all caps

I believe this

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:01 am

In post 1413, Albert B. Rampage wrote:GET THE VAN READY FIREBRINGER MY REINFORCEMENTS ARE COMING

Ill hammer but I think this is town.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:06 am

In post 1419, votato wrote:UNVOTE: farside. Either ABR is town, and then probably right, or scum, in which case this is a really bad play. Why would scum be this aggressive pushing 1 townie? Worst case ABR is town and wrong, but then we still probably find out tonight with NKs. this is wayyyy better than any of the other wagons, and even if DC flips town, this is real progression. I don't know any of you, but im leaning towards lilith being naive and town, with farside giving intentionally bad reads. Farside is in queue for at least one other game, so doesn't currently feel overwhelmed. If play is subpar for her, its probably on purpose. Vecna flip-flop is a bit odd, and vecna does some off somewhat as tyring to sheep-without-sheeping this game. He has been reading most people the same way town~majority does, iirc. VOTE: doncorleone

why it seem like ur copying pasting and mixing other peoples opinions.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:09 am

votes shifting so bad I feel bad for the mod

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:10 am

I might be interested in a votato wagon tbh

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:12 am

vecna ur scum because u didn't scumread me.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:14 am

In post 1435, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You. You had your chance to lead this town, did I get in your way? No, I did not.

u actually did. U single handedly destroyed my eyescott wagon because DC was pushing u.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:14 am

In post 1436, Vecna wrote:
In post 1433, Firebringer wrote:vecna ur scum because u didn't scumread me.
I DID SO

well u didn't scumread me hard enough. so shut up scum.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:16 am

In post 1439, farside22 wrote:
In post 1425, lilith2013 wrote:This is a horrible counterwagon to ABR
Agreed.

I blame fire for giving abr an out.

I regret nothing but not getting my eyescott wagon.

also abr is still town

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:18 am

can we all just agree to lynch maria?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:18 am

In post 1445, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1437, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1435, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You. You had your chance to lead this town, did I get in your way? No, I did not.
u actually did. U single handedly destroyed my eyescott wagon because DC was pushing u.
You fucking let DC railroad me into a momentum-gaining bandwagon with farside, Sircakez and Lilith dude. I give you my nightkill but don't derail DC.

I am 100% obligated to tell town who I shoot tonight before the hammer, scum can't do nothing about it and town will get info day 2.

okay how about this u shoot in eyescott or maria tonight and ill vote with u on Don today.

Tht good?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:19 am

In post 1447, Vecna wrote:Didnt DC destroy the maria wagon?

He was also heavily appealing me to change my opinion there

yeah DC destroyed maria wagon. ABR destroyed eyescott wagon.

Now we are all like all over map with ABR and DC wagons

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:21 am

ABR just shoot DC.

VOTE: MariaR

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:29 am

In post 1537, MariaR wrote:I really hate how much I’ve tried to get people to understand using meta on me doesn’t work

ur never going to get people to stop trying to meta u.
so give it up.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:38 am

In post 1540, chkflip wrote:haha yeah that clap back is tragic.

DC today for sure.

I wasn't doing a clap back?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:39 am

wait were u talking to me?

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:09 am

In post 1553, MariaR wrote:Okay fire then stop using your years old meta that I've been trying to change because you're objectively wrong in how I play. I don't really care if you want to wagon me, I do care about you slandering my rep.

and I never cared for u saying I don't play the game or was playing against my win conditions, etc, etc.

which uve done numerous times.

so lol at ur request.

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:10 am

In post 1563, DonCorleone wrote:I'm fairly certain that this is the classic case of Known Player Yells At People Like Small Toddler Until He Gets What He Wants. The fragility of the masculinity on this website is astonishing.

Why is anyone actually scumreading me? The two main suggestions seem to be I'm Too Townie To Be Town and because I deflated two wagons. Why is this a reason to think I'm scum @anyone scumreading me?

This actually could be Enter

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:14 am

HOLY SHIT ITS KRAZY!

Firebringer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:17 am

In post 1580, DonCorleone wrote:@fire @Maria, position on ABR please

Town.

Ur gonna need way more of a scum!abr case to convince me rn.

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 12:48 am

So things got weird here.

Ummm are we gonna do Maria lynch then?

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 12:52 am

In post 1828, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1827, Firebringer wrote:So things got weird here.

Ummm are we gonna do Maria lynch then?
Why are you townreading cakez?

Doesn’t really feel scum motivated?
I mean most scummy thing he did was push u I guess and I think that has a lot to do with u two being in a weird slap fist fight

Idk he feels town that doesn’t have time for this game

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 11:07 am

In post 1955, MariaR wrote:
In post 1938, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1933, MariaR wrote:That's fine, that makes 2 players I can't interact with in this playerlist. That's pretty demotivating but, whatever.
I don't see pro-town motivation from you to stay alive or to join the action where it's happening, I just see someone content to sit on their vote while making empty posts that don't convince anyone or move any votes.
I think this is a playstyle clash more than anything. I like engaging people and talking to them to get a read. If someone asks me about my scumreads I’ll happily try to get them to move and I feel like I have, but I don’t like reaching out to others a lot of the time. I’m more reactive. But, I feel like I’ve even been going against that at certain degrees and tried to talk to others. Do you disagree?

In post 1939, Albert B. Rampage wrote:If I were you Maria and I saw resistance to farside being lynched 1 day before deadline, I wouldn't waste my energy on it.
That’s fair, I thought we had 2 days not one day. I see Cakez has magically had a change of heart that makes me scum.

This post gave me flash backs to ur last scum game

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 11:09 am

In post 1970, MariaR wrote:In a world with farside town I think my main scumreads would be:

Lilith: I've already explained how I think some of her emotions were planned/overblown you can go back and look at the case for that so I'll leave that part out. I think her taking the sidelines during the whole ABR/Don situation was her trying to fan the flames without getting involved. Her top townread farside suddenly goes to 'yeah I could vote her' while that in and of itself isn't so bad, her reasoning is because farside is tunneling people? Something her meta is known for that Lilth already knows about. Bare in mind they were basically 2 peas in a pod at one point. This is after me and Don start putting a little heat on her as well.

Vecna: I think Vecna has had a lot of his reads flip flop with bare minimum follow up. He questions Cakez recently on why Cakez is townreading him when this is 'one of his more scummy games' Along with the fact his tone changed when he was under pressure for a vote like he was appealing to Don. He got this wrong when I talked to him, but when I corrected him he went with the same excuse of 'interpret it how you want' I can also throw in some useless shading but you get the point.

After that? I'd look in: (Firebringer/Iconeum/votato) everyone else I have some degree of reason to townread.

I don’t think vecna or Lilith make sense as a team? Did u even think about that or u these individual reads?

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 11:14 am

Eyestott and MariaR

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 11:24 am

This day is full of so many twists and turns. Would make a good suspense thriller

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 11:26 am

Btw I don’t buy for a minute DC claim he has a gun but I still think he is town.

I am very near my “let’s lynch anyone includiinf me because I’m bored” point

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 11:26 am

In post 1985, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1975, farside22 wrote:Can we put down the snarkiness for a few minutes.
Cakez: who are your scum reads.
ABR is top obviously
Eyestott is someone who was really scummy earlier but their current disappearance is NAI so I'm not sure anymore
Maria is light scum lean
I've been unsure on Ico and knightmare all game.
And probably someone who hopped on me with ABR (either votato or ckh) is scum

Like I said too many SRs

I just find it so rude I’m not in ur scum list

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 11:44 am

In post 1994, MariaR wrote:Ok fire what ruzzles your jimmies about me? Why am I a scumlord? You say you can't read me but you've had your vote on me a lot of the day.

If the answer is you just want me out of the game I will accept that

ur too nice right now and ur actually trying to communicate with me rather than just dismiss me.

Never have u done that as town.

I don't believe this is town u.

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 11:47 am

In post 1995, MariaR wrote:Oh also I don't see why Vecna/Lil can't be a team if you can explain why they can't they'd be great

did u read their interactions because they don't look like partners from that. This isn't u we are talking about who can make great scum theatre wherever u go.

I don't think Lilith could put up good theatre with vecna.

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 11:50 am

In post 1999, MariaR wrote:I don't think the impression you have of me is nearly close to accurate

if ur gonna try to tell me my memories of ur play are wrong. maybe point out a game where u treated me like ur doing so now?

Firebringer · Fri May 01, 2020 11:54 am

newb im not just gonna lynch u cause I don't like u. Baka