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SS has used the same approach to my slot/reads before many different times.In post 1151, Wisdom wrote:
its okay when you say it, we know your issuesIn post 1148, Celestial Coordinates wrote:either I have correct reads or I'm scum
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This isn't about you at all, he's trying to essentially bully you into not going down a line of play that recognizes my reads as inherently valuable.In post 1154, Something_Smart wrote:
And also, once again, why would I be more likely to act this way as scum, given that I'm clearly cognizant of the fact that I just said I townread Cephrir and then said I want to lynch him?In post 1152, Something_Smart wrote:
They're not reads.In post 1147, Wisdom wrote:add stupid nonsensical reads to the reasons i scumread you thenOnly two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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I've considered them as scum and I think them!scum gamestate is best solved without lynching Gay Dance at all.
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Ohh I get it.
For some reason I thought you were voting them for scum.
What I meant was that I had considered them being scum but I thought it would essentially resolve itself, but it's a terrible answer.
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If you have reads, I'm listening. But in the end i'm pretty sure splitting the votes only favors scum.In post 1162, Oh wrote:I think it's obvious that anything I do isn't going to matter until people start flipping so I honestly don't really care either way atm
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If you have reads, I'm listening. But in the end i'm pretty sure splitting the votes only favors scum.In post 1162, Oh wrote:I think it's obvious that anything I do isn't going to matter until people start flipping so I honestly don't really care either way atm
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Your obsession with Nacho is as strange as Shoshin's obsession with Cephrir.In post 1165, Wisdom wrote:I think this gamestate will only get better if nacho gets more involved
Kinda think it's two sides of the same coin and both of you are targeting a player to buddy up to.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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We have 3 lynches and I can't get people to listen to me on one.In post 1170, Gay Dance Gone Wrong wrote:Imagine splitting in 3-lynches-per-dayOnly two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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I still think that if she were town she'd be trying to change my read on her and sort my push on her as opposed to doing what she's doing, which is effectively playing the crowd.
On a related note, I think that due to said playing the crowd it will be essentially impossible to lynch her.
As of right now I'd suggest doing something like Gameplay/Wisdom.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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It should be really obvious that she's trying to keep me at arms length and that's part of a long pattern of players in the game trying to push me away and keep me off balance.
It's making it very difficult for me to enjoy or engage with the game and I don't think that it's accidental; I know some townies in this game who do that as a matter of course but.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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Instead, I'd suggest that if either of us lives to 3p LyLo we should die there instantly.
that's unfortunate. if you townread Shoshin you should put more than a little faith in her read there.@nacho thanks for the positivity.
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Gameplay was my read first and Wisdom has been scummy.In post 1339, Shoshin wrote:
I think it's somewhat absurd that RC calls me scum while basically sheeping my reads.In post 1332, Celestial Coordinates wrote:As of right now I'd suggest doing something like Gameplay/Wisdom.
I also don't think that's absurd at all. WhatshouldI be doing, that's not that?Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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It's burden of proficiency on me. It has long been espoused as the best way to read me, besides reading my hydra partners. I believe they already explained it.
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In post 1343, Shoshin wrote:BoP isn't the best way to read RC, and town RC would never be okay with saying that.never? I don't care about my winrate in hydra games. I am perfectly fine going for a high percentage play that isn't the absolute highest percentage play.
When he started calling me locktown in a way that feels really fake trumped up and like he's trying to tie himself to me using extra words.When did Wisdom become scummy to you, RC?Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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Did you say this?In post 1347, Shoshin wrote:This feels like something you got from me.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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You prodded him about the same set of posts.In post 1314, Shoshin wrote:
Why do you think RC's town?In post 1306, Wisdom wrote:rc is town guys. Theres no reason to doubt that.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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I can't imagine Wisdom as town actually saying "there is no reason to doubt that." Sounds like it's screw with people later and scum are clearly doing something weird wrt me so.
Not sure how to respond to this. I also feel like town you would have 100% anticipated my reaction to your unvote on me and the posts and words that you used.I wrote almost exactly what you said.
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I think scum rarely take positions where you can't always see where they're coming from.In post 1357, Cephrir wrote:i don't want to say something lame like "i can always see where he's coming from" so i'll just say i felt town motivation between where i stopped reading last night and nowOnly two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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There's a difference between worshipping and keeping a player's performance as different alignments in context.In post 1359, Cephrir wrote:i object to this because of 1057.
you're putting him on a pedestal even though you just said you don't like that.
I don't worship NSG but I am very slow to oppose a lynch that she feels strongly about.
I don't think all players and all reads are created equal and I find it difficult to believe that you think that they should be treated equally.
Because I didn't have a read there? What am I supposed to say if I do not have a read there? I got a read because he did scummy stuff.Your flip on Wisdom gives me a sense that you're trying to find enough common ground with me to make it unlikely I push your lynch, RC. Like, why didn't you agree with me about Wisdom when I first engaged you? Why'd you just brush me off? His play wasn't any better at the start of the game.
I never opposed the wagon, I never townread him, I simply didn't have a read one way or another.
That's out of context with the fact that I had a correct gamestate read (0 scum on the wagon) and every single one of the four scum was in my bottom 6 players.This is untrue, in MG his strong scumread, LE, flipped town, we were town that game.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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No one is 100%. It's actually about 60%. I haven't done the math in a while.In post 1362, Shoshin wrote:RC's accuracy is closer to 50% than 100%. It's still far above average, but you can't just BoP him hoping to get lucky.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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I know for a fact that this is how he approaches games when he's town and I also am very confident in my ability to catch him as scum, see NSG's game.In post 1367, Shoshin wrote:I'm concerned about SS blindly sheeping. Why do you townread this, RC?Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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People actually "worshipping" me is a myth, I wasn't given respect without earning it.
This is specifically wrt my slots.Link? My impression in undertale was that he's more of an independent thinker.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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this is untrue and you know it to be untrue so I'm not sure why you're saying this.In post 1373, Shoshin wrote:then doesn't call me scum when I'm scum.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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I literally said I was going to stop giving a read on you because everyone was shitting on me for it and then I just placed a read without having to think about it.In post 1376, Shoshin wrote:Well, okay. In the last game, you called me scum. But then you called me town. Strong town. And you never revised the read before I killed you.
I don't think that you can genuinely believe that I did not scumread you that entire game.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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You know that when I'm getting shit on all game and called anti-town and a number of bad stuff because I tried to correctly lynch scum it feelsbad and tilts me.
This game is also tilting me for fairly similar reasons in terms of more than half of the game reminding everyone not to worship me and calling anyone who gives me even the slightest consideration out.
This is not an accurate representation of my history reading you.I genuinely thought you townread me after a certain point on D1. Yes, you scumread me early. But you do that in literally every game, so I don't take it seriously.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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Sure! Literally our last gameIn post 1381, Shoshin wrote:
Can you name a single game where you didn't scumread me early on?In post 1379, Celestial Coordinates wrote:This is not an accurate representation of my history reading you.
Oh wait I did push on you but I think even at the time I immediately stated that it was a reaction test, that I felt bad about it, and that I didn't want to go down that road.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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can't misread me if I'm flippedIn post 1390, Shoshin wrote:I think RC's alignment will be clear before the end of this day.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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says the person who doesn't know any of my towntells?In post 1396, Shoshin wrote:
Lack of mental energy to sustain the push is a town tell for you. The only one so far.In post 1395, Celestial Coordinates wrote:can't read my push on you if I don't have the mental energy to sustain my push.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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gameplay is pretty much outed atp I think?
also heavily scumreading Cephrir townreading two slots that I think are scummy and transparently so but that goes away if my reads are wrong I guessOnly two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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i was always more interested in seeing reactions to it than i was committed to either read but i did scumread both individually at the time.In post 1433, YukzYuk wrote:CC how confident are you still in ceph and shoshin being s-sOnly two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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My brain is really weird and messed up and it's hard to put out reads in terms of chronological thought in the sense that you want to hear them.
I think I latched onto Cephrir/Shoshin for a reason and I would say that >90% of the time at least one of them is scum and I'll stand by that.
But I'm not feeling or seeing whatever I saw at the time that made me lead there. I still see the case for Cephrir individually that I was underplaying for not so good reasons.
I only have his reputation to go on. Do you think Cephrir is a strong enough town player that him continually having wrong reads is in and of itself worth lynching him for?what does this even mean
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You cannot sort me effectively without showing me good faith and working with me as if I'm town and testing the results of that. can't be done.In post 1443, Oh wrote:I was trying to tell GDGW that he couldn't base a solid logical argument off of assumptions like the one above. I don't particularly CARE if you're townreading RC right now as far as this post is concerned, I want people to not take RC is town as a fact and then try to base a logical argument off of it based on a day 1 town read on Nancy who hasn't done anything particularly towny at all.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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One of the biggest reasons that I scumread Wisdom actually is that he keeps putting rule of 3s with like Yukyukz/SS/Gameplay then he had a second one which I forget but it also had one of yukyukz/SS and he has gone to great lengths casing everyone in all the rules of 3 except the one that I actually scumread, ie gameplay.
I have not and I actually don't want to see you lynched today regardless.Have you made this case?Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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As I said I'm skipping two steps ahead on a lot of my reads, assuming that some of my scumreads are correct, and generating new scumreads based on those flips.
My case on you is based on a lot of pre-flip logic that I'm reasonably comfortable in but that I would rather flip the people who are just scummy as individuals as opposed to the ones who look bad if they are in fact scum.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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Outside of pre-flip it's two things which I think have other explanations as I said
1) your reaction to people wanting to flipwisdomwas weird, can't say it's never a culture thing either though.
2) you reacted to the scumread on you with a lot of AtE. not sure what it means either. certainly not what i expected but otoh my expectations could just as easily be the problem.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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i beg to differ and i don't want to actually have the argument past that so let's leave it at that.In post 1458, Cephrir wrote:
wisdom is among the strongest assets to town in this gameIn post 1453, Celestial Coordinates wrote:1) your reaction to people wanting to flip wisdom was weird, can't say it's never a culture thing either though.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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but in this case I'm less arguing with it being wisdom specifically and more that you seemed to overreact to people having reads at a specific point in the game, which again maybe culture, maybe it's a scumbuddy thing.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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don't think this comes from town more than a very small percentage of the time.In post 97, gameplay506 wrote:Ye ok good
Honestly from what we've had so far I have more negative then positive reads atm
It might be that the other large theme magical girls was pretty jokish for the first 10-15 pages or so but SS, wisdom and SH posts just seem a little out of place
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1) her town winrate is a good bit lower than mineIn post 1481, Oversoul wrote:
Why? She has just as high a town winrate as you and the downsides are significantly less.In post 1479, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I think giving the baton to Shoshin is a joke except it's not at all a funny one.
2) the question isn't that, the question is about is she town and is she likely to get killed and I think she's never a nightkill and i'm not sure if she's town.
I find the idea of Shoshin specifically getting it somewhat offensive to my sensibilities and I'd rather it go to Nacho if it's not going to me.Cici you get three kills before night, pragmatically you should not be super upset if you don’t get baton.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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also without exception in the games me and shoshin have both been town in my reads have been superior and not by a small margin.
but this isn't really the argument we're having because the question is is she town and I don't know that she is.
there's enough people to make the 5 universal townread pool that she doesn't have to be in it and I'd prefer she be lynched if she lives to 3 way and I'd rather not exclude her from shot contention.
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I think the only people in this lobby who would even consider a Shoshin shot are also people who wouldn't take that shot because it points towards them.
Her chances of being the nightkill are somewhere between 0 and 5%. It's an objectively bad choice.
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Like, anyone who would know enough about the current meta to shoot Shoshin would know better than to not shoot me.
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I think Shoshin has intentionally restrained herself as scum to keep space for her town meta and if this is her last game for a long time I think that she will do essentially anything to win it.
I acknowledge that others are townreading the trust-telly stuff but I don't see it as particularly trust telly because I don't think it's actually true that she wouldn't be doing this as scum.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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This is really hard to do justice to because most of it is based off of conversations I've had with Shoshin external to mafia in general but I think that her scumplay limits have always far exceeded what she was willing to put into a game, even in the last game which became her first win, because of how it would effect her town play. I think that this being her last game bets are all off and she'd 100% play way beyond her prior games as scum.
Does this in and of itself make her scum? No. I'm not 100% sure either way right now. I think that just saying that we should lynch her if she's alive to 3 way without having won is a pretty good sol'n to this issue.Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.~ Albert Einstein-
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This is a really bad way to read NSG, she can pump out postcount if she wants to and sometimes lurks as town but there's a ton of stuff that she can't do.Shoshin scum definitely does not post the ultimatum that she did. Plus she is very much playing to her town meta of not lurking. NSG is a player with the same type of meta. Transparently scum by activity alone.
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