New York 185: Freshwater Frenzy!

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 9:51 am

Kitz, you have until hammer drops to answer this question...

Why did you question the innocent House claimed on you?

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 9:54 am

No it's not. I'm being generous by giving Kitz until hammer to explain if she's still on.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 10:03 am

In post 1604, Kitz wrote:
In post 1601, Titus wrote:Why did you question the innocent House claimed on you?

I found it to be funny. The reason is this : can you link me a game where there's an actual Daycop role?

Wrong answer.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 10:05 am

In post 1610, Prolapsed Brain wrote:
In post 1479, Taly wrote:

>>>>>

I'm getting pretty edgy right now 5 to 6 people have placed some suspicion on me but only half of them have given just a FEW sentences as to why they think that.

This is probably a scumslip.

No, but your pushing it makes me feel a little better about you. You've already surpassed your level of content when we were scumbuddies.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 10:15 am

In post 1614, Varsoon wrote:*cough*
You say I protected Ozgin but I'm pretty much one of the primary people who drove the lynch both early and late. I think.

No.

You voted him and bailed early. You came back when the other wagons stalled.

BooKitty and I drove that lynch.

You're lucky House just provided an even stronger case on Kitz, where I'll be joining him tomorrow, but we're lynching you day 3.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 10:20 am

@Boonskiies, it's because House always does it. When someone always gambits, it's hard to trust their results.

Kitz, "Wat" reaction to getting an innocent was Ozgin level bad. Ask yourself this.

Why would Kitz doubt a cop getting an innocent on her? But say next to nothing about the original claim.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 10:21 am

In post 1626, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1585, House wrote:
In post 1582, Kitz wrote:
In post 1564, House wrote:I have a daycop innocent on this player.

She's confirmed town.

Wat.

^ Scumclaim.

I totes lied about the daycop result.

Lynch this shit with fire tomorrow.

If I'm dead, lynch it twice and spread my ashes over it.

Pretty much this. Thought you might be lying to try and get a nightkill to protect over dragon and I...

House should. You two are suspicious and we get benefits if scum are dumb enough to kill either one of you. House should be protected over you two. WIFOM.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 10:26 am

In post 1634, Kitz wrote:
In post 1627, Titus wrote:Kitz, "Wat" reaction to getting an innocent was Ozgin level bad. Ask yourself this.

Why would Kitz doubt a cop getting an innocent on her? But say next to nothing about the original claim.

You read things the way you want, noted.
Seriously tho, I never heard of a daycop role. I'm not "doubting it" the way you depict, I see it as a joke by House. His game is somewhat carefree.

Nah, not happening. Not buying this.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 10:29 am

Nah, we aren't lynching Taly tomorrow.

House, you might want to use your real cop on Taly.

Kitz is who we are lynching tomorrow.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 10:31 am

In post 1649, Aneninen wrote:Hey, I've got an idea!
Who needs Nights at all?
Let's start voting again and we'll achieve another lynch Today!

Damn, then we could lynch both Kitz AND Varsoon before night. My best dreams.

If I'm right on both, Egg as another. :-p

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 10:33 am

In post 1653, Boonskiies wrote:I've never been wrong when I town read Egg.

Well thank goodness Egg's lower on my lynch pile then.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 10:50 am

In post 1665, SilverWolf wrote:Troll post incoming:

Great, you me, Boo, Taly form the female Alphas of Win.

House, Dragon and Boon can be honorary women.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 11:02 am

In post 1671, T S O wrote:*slits wrists*

And you can be the pack emo.

TSO the emo. TSO the emo emu. Yes that's it.

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 11:35 am

Why Kitz, you are a gold mine. I've never heard anyone else use the phrase "retcon" before but me. Odd that you'd use it. It's one of those Titusonian phrases, like townbeard.

Would you care to explain the concepts of retroactive continuity and retconning?

Titus · Fri May 22, 2015 11:39 am

I could, but the fact Kitz used it at all is revealing to me about her partners. Someone taught her the meaning of that word, which suggests that one of my townreads on my proteges is wrong.

Retconning as a TV trope is not commonly applied to mafia.

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 5:10 pm

Cheetory feel free to be dick to me. I still cannot believe that Ozgin was town. At least my Varsoon read was right though.

There's not likely to be another red scum in Varsoon's hood (but it is not impossible), just due to odds. Anyone who is in that hood, sharing his stances and positions would be good so we can review them.

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 5:20 pm

In post 859, Varsoon wrote:Central Hood:
Wake, Dragonspawn, Bookitty, Kitz, Egg

Bastion Hood:
Varsoon, Cheetory, Drixx, TSO

Content to add Drixx and TSO to the not Varsoon buddies you listed Egg.

VOTE: Kitz

Your turn House. You gets sheep's.

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 5:27 pm

Umm wtf to the last comment about killing me... dat doubtcasting by Varsoon yo.

Makes me think I am a threat to Varsoon, which suggests Kits scum.

House had claimed joat. Varsoon was a joat. The House suspicion is likely genuine because balance implies joat on team A, boat can work on team B. I doubt it is accurate though.

I could compromise on FA.

Can you look at Kits Cheetory?

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 5:33 pm

@Egg, I will suppose the "that" in the last post is wanting me dead. The question is why? I literally sent all of day 1 tunnelling town. How was I a threat to anyone with a scum wincon? I was even going to sheep House on Kits for day 2 If I lived, so why shoot me? If Kits is scum though....

@Cheetory, Who is the US there in your last post?

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 5:36 pm

Right but you're implying that your hood has an NK...

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 5:37 pm

In post 1729, Cheetory6 wrote:As in he said that one of us should kill you and I joked that I said I would?

Oh that was a joke...Sorry...

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 5:41 pm

You are right there Dragon, which I agree with today. It's one of those things where if the people don't start flipping, we can reassess. Not exactly in a rush to test it given the odds.

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 6:17 pm

Wow, you say nothing yesterday. Now your only opinions are immutable and non discussable.

If la la is indeed scum, this resembles the crossbar from Cheetory's game.

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 6:45 pm

Deep. Autocorrect. Crossbar is crossbus. It's literally the mini hosted by Cheer. You should find it. When it was obvious I was going down, you made a big stink about how I was scum but never gave a good reason why. Here looks like more of the same with la la.

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 6:49 pm

That's not a fair point la la.

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 7:06 pm

In post 1746, Boonskiies wrote:Just ignore Titus. She's playing really poorly this game; could be scum, but meh. Lala is a fantastic vote. I will join the wagon with you if need be. Taly/Lala for scum, may 2015.

Ew... If you were not a best friend...

My play has not been terrible. Ozgin's was. His biggest defender was scum wking him to secure his vote.

My Varsoon read was right. Am I perfect, no but garbage in garbage out.

*blinks at Cheetory* thanks...

Titus · Sun May 24, 2015 8:01 pm

Boon, what is your take on Varsoon wanting me dead?

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 4:16 am

In post 1783, Egg wrote:Titus, now that I'm a little more awake I noticed what you were talking about. My "that" to Cheet wasn't Varsoon wanting you dead. It was Varsoon wanting to fakeclaim masons with Cheet. It makes no sense from town.

Lala, it's more that JEEP's tells became outdated as the game evolved. Gloating is probably the one that stayed the most valid though. You could also be accused of "congratulating the doc".

Metal Sonic faked masons with me before as town.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 4:25 am

In post 1783, Egg wrote:Titus, now that I'm a little more awake I noticed what you were talking about. My "that" to Cheet wasn't Varsoon wanting you dead. It was Varsoon wanting to fakeclaim masons with Cheet. It makes no sense from town.

Lala, it's more that JEEP's tells became outdated as the game evolved. Gloating is probably the one that stayed the most valid though. You could also be accused of "congratulating the doc".

In post 1794, Cheetory6 wrote:Might have been worried that Titus is one of those players who's likely to get protected or something?
Or given that he had a protection he might have been worried about other scum having a protection of their own or her being BP? etc etc..

Doc heal,
Target was BP,
SK and Blue both kill Varsoon
Roleblocked killers

I am a little partial to solving why a guy who wants to be known as Boring Frozen Water would sing " Frozen water infant" over and over again, rather than solving who was night killed.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 4:30 am

In post 1793, Egg wrote:
In post 1786, Cheetory6 wrote:I mean, scum has no reason not to try and scumhunt.
I think he genuinely was paranoid of Titus potentially being scum.

Wouldn't he just shoot Titus himself then? Also, what Anen said.

Cheet wrote: I think he was expressing an anxiety that he was feeling over her in the game.

This may or may not mean he thought she was scum...

Kitz, the only logic I really see unless Titus explained on Day 1 somewhere is that she's sheeping House and I don't even know House's reasons.

House faked an innocent on Kitz. Her response was "Wat". Who does not believe a cop innocent on you.

@Cheetory, your assertions about my scum game are inaccurate. Team Mafia prohibits me from saying more. Was it possible Varsoon believed that though? That is more important.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 5:53 am

"Wat" is either a question or a statement of disbelief. Normal games can have any particular rolewwith a day or night modifier. The theory is widely understood. You can follow the wiki page.

The fact of past game usage is irrelevant. You are stating a day cop cannot exist when a simple wiki reading refutes that.

To repeat Wat is a question or a statement of shock and disbelief. Neither motivation is town orientated.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:03 am

For the record, Varsoon mafia had a day cop. The OP traitor had it along with town having a day flavor cop.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:25 am

House's cop was a reaction test and not real. The fact you questioned it indicates your guilt.

Who wants to be the first to try to mislynch House for running a gambit?

It looks like he learned my gambit lesson well. I am touched.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:47 am

@Drixx, Humility has never been my strong suit. But I actually did explain to House and Wolf what gambiting was. House gambit overly much but he seems to have learned when not to gambit as much as when to gambit.

@Kitz, I am aware what trolling means.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:50 am

@Boonskiies, I made a mistake there. It's frozen water, frozen water infant.

Beyond that, we have no evidence to support anything regarding the nightkills. Speculating is just that. House's commute likely explains 1 missing kill but we have two.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:52 am

In post 1832, Kitz wrote:
In post 1831, Titus wrote:@Kitz, I am aware what trolling means.

Then learn to understand that I saw it as a basic case of trolling?

Then your response would have indicated that you were fed up with trolling.

That's not what your response was.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:30 am

I would be quite surprised if TSO was town after that post.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:57 am

In post 1844, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 1805, RadiantCowbells wrote:Well, that was a solid night.

Also a possibility that Blue team kills odd nights, Red kills evens.

If anyone needs me, VOTE: laladuck

first, why would wake give one team that disadvantage?

second, how do you know the other team is blue? Or did I miss something?

VOTE: RC

I am sheeting this or Kits, whichever is larger

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 8:26 am

In post 1848, T S O wrote:Why would you vote Kitz?

Because she questioned a cop Inno on her.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 8:49 am

In post 1851, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1844, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 1805, RadiantCowbells wrote:Well, that was a solid night.

Also a possibility that Blue team kills odd nights, Red kills evens.

If anyone needs me, VOTE: laladuck

first, why would wake give one team that disadvantage?

second, how do you know the other team is blue? Or did I miss something?

First, because it would then be compensated for in the form of increasing PRs on one team while lowering the KPN.

Second, I don't. But it's a fair assumption.

Why is blue a fair assumption?

Why can't we just be a pr heavy town. The mod limiting scum to one kill every other night is theme territory but this is a normal. Wake said 2 abnormal roles, which my guess are best friends. Wake could theoretically have those as Day 1 compulsive one shot friendly neighbors on each other. But more than likely those are our non-normal roles.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 8:51 am

Mod:Are best friends normal or would they require using the "not normal slots" you have.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 8:51 am

In post 1855, Titus wrote:
Mod:Are best friends normal or would they require using the "not normal slots" you have.

Please answer the question I fucked up on bolding. Ty

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 9:07 am

House, Kitz is scum. I agree. So is RC.

I like BooKitty as town though and Egg as scum picking between the other two.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 9:23 am

@House, let's force scum to lynch scum or scum claim. After all, you didn't commute but a doctor healed you and you will be commuting tonight right?

(Town motivated wifom)

Kitz and RC, it should not matter as both are scum.

Blue is just as common as any other color to describe a second scum team. Orange is another. Blue is very particular and off.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 9:29 am

In post 1868, Wake1 wrote:
In post 1855, Titus wrote:
Mod:Are best friends normal or would they require using the "not normal slots" you have.

Please read Game OP and Normal Game wiki page.

Ty. Cc please.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 9:36 am

In post 1871, Titus wrote:
In post 1868, Wake1 wrote:
In post 1855, Titus wrote:
Mod:Are best friends normal or would they require using the "not normal slots" you have.

Please read Game OP and Normal Game wiki page.

Ty. Cc please.

That should bc Vc. I am not asking the mod to cc dragon and boon.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 9:37 am

House, I think the more productive thing to do is to paraphrase the hood in a spoiler. Egg, Boo, and Dragon verify.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 9:40 am

You two. 1875. Now.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 9:41 am

In post 1878, Titus wrote:You two. 1875. Now.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 11:20 am

SW, Read the last few fucking pages. I am in a bad mood and don't feel like repeating.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 1:59 pm

Hmm, whaddya think that scum tried to kill me last night, hence why they all feel I'm off but cannot articulate why...

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 4:13 pm

In post 1912, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 1911, Titus wrote:Hmm, whaddya think that scum tried to kill me last night, hence why they all feel I'm off but cannot articulate why...

And the doc protected you?

There are a few possibilities

Scum were blocked
Someone rolestopped me
Doc healed me
Bulletproof
Commuting (but House makes that less likely)

Plenty of reasons, but scum would just see their kill didn't go through.

My read on Varsoon was right, so they doubtcast me.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 4:23 pm

True, but I can't see any town motivation behind them pushing that Titus is "off" but no one can say why, when none of them had such concerns day 1. It happens, as suspicion mounts on their slots. There's no town motivation for trying to push a case with admittedly no reasoning while being pressures as such. It's meant to take town and play to the fact that I'm not the easiest to understand. After all, I was right on Varsoon but not Ozgin. If someone is actually scumreading scum, they are just a great a threat as a PR, who they can hope others take out.

Could it be that scum are just attempting to push a mislynch my direction? Sure, but why would they if my reads are hogwash? Wouldn't they love me then?

Kitz and RC need to flip. They need to flip yesterday.

Lala can be copped. Same with FAQ2.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 4:59 pm

In post 1916, dragonspawn wrote:That's assuming we have cops and we don't lynch them before the cop tells us anything.

Copped should be more investigated but oh well. Their decisions should tell us plenty.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 5:21 pm

Lols...I didn't realize scumhunting and highlighting scummy things was scummy

oh right, that's coming from the slot that won't explain how "blue scum" is more likely the color of the other scumteam. Right...

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 5:45 pm

In post 1923, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1922, Titus wrote:Lols...I didn't realize scumhunting and highlighting scummy things was scummy

oh right, that's coming from the slot that won't explain how "blue scum" is more likely the color of the other scumteam. Right...

I noticed this too, but I don't think it's a slip or anything. Red/Blue makes sense.

So does red/orange and red/purple and red/white and red/yellow. Why does red blue make the most sense? Why would someone presume the other scumteam is blue?

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 5:59 pm

In post 1927, lalaladucks wrote:I think someone else mentioned before RC that the other scumteam was probs blue but then RC was talking about it like it was certain

That would be interesting information, given I only saw it from RC. Can you go find that?

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:13 pm

Umm what the fuck god damn my auto correct...

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:14 pm

I fucking hate my god damn phone

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:14 pm

VOTE: Kitz

Fucking seriously...

Just fucking lynch me. I don't care anymore.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:14 pm

I always get run up as town. I'd rather claim and get it over with.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:20 pm

In post 1938, dragonspawn wrote:Is anyone voting for you yet? And you want to claim already?

Dragon, that's how this shit starts every time.

I'm town but people FoS me for no reason. So I highlight this. People say that's scummy or that I'm detracting from the lynch. So I don't really want to claim, but if people are going to vote me, just fucking do it so we can get it out of the way.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:37 pm

It's frustration and yes, I may not have votes, but I'll always be offered as an alternative. I'd rather just quash it right now.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:40 pm

Why didn't you ever say it was me that used it first? You were never motivated to check at all.

I didn't think I said that. :S My autocorrect has been fucking up all over the site. I missed one.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 6:57 pm

I don't know. That post was awhile ago. Half of my posts are incomprehensible. I've been trying, but hell...

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:00 pm

Spoiler: Autocorrect errors

So yeah, my autocorrect is bad.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:08 pm

VOTE: Titus

I did this as a favor to Wake. I was planning on retiring. I'm just leaving this game better when I leave. I'm done.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:12 pm

No. It's not a confession. It's I want to be run up if it's going to happen and I'm fed up. So I'll just get it out of the way.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:17 pm

Sorry SW... you remember the ice bulletproof game. You should be the one to figure out my crumbs already. But yeah...

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:29 pm

My Ozgin push was fine. He claimed for no reason. He had no spreads.

I bit your head off because my reasons for RC and Kits are already in the thread but my reason for RC was proven shirty because of my God Damn autocorrect turning things around giving my scuffed an excuse.

Yes, you can tell I am frustrated. This frustration existed before shit went to hell .

I would sub out but I am not doing that to someone else.

You haven't seen town Titus be Wagoner over and over.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:30 pm

In post 1963, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not saying you're flailing but I could transmute you with Khalim's Brain, Heart, and Eye to form Khalim's Will.

I will say I am flailing and I don't know about the rest of that even means.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:36 pm

Oh and Wolf, I can provide a game where I was mislynches as town fucking cop to compare with.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:40 pm

RC, yes because I thought you slipped.

Wolf, I don't get to make mistakes as town.

I am off to bed.

Titus · Mon May 25, 2015 7:41 pm

In post 1968, lalaladucks wrote:But Titus, why did you say 'blue' with confidence?

It was autocorrect.

Titus · Tue May 26, 2015 4:55 am

@Taly, there is no more elaborate of a case. I can't.

@Boo, If I knew what I intended to say I would have said so.

I just feel this is Pathfinder mafia all over again.

Titus · Tue May 26, 2015 5:03 am

Maybe I meant to say SK and both kill Varsoon? I am guessing though...

Titus · Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:41 am

In post 4027, Wake1 wrote:I think it was a good game.

Off the top of my head, there were so many ways Town could have lost this one.

Titus is a very good player and rarely slips. Her role was a beast. Imagine if she didn't slip or get cornered.

Blue Team getting lynched and killed off so soon was a bit unpredicted.

I didn't actually slip though.