NY 170: Georgetown II (Game Over)

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/c-c-c-c-confirm!

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vote:garmr

for taking the first vote!

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vote:garmr

for taking the first vote!

Let the games begin.
I sense an a ulterior motive to voting me Like finding me sexy, looking at my awesomeness or just wanting a hug.

maybe its all of it!

@mod: Can I chat in my scum QT before Day starts?

well..there arent many reasons you would do that! Let me see..

1. You are a scum, but a scum would never post anything like this so you pourposefully post this! (using reverse psychology?!)

2. You are trying to get something out of this which im not seeing!

either way, you earn my vote!

unvote! Vote:emogirl123

[kabooooom]

ur no fun i dont like you

I didnt sign up to be like be like by u either!

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You remind me of that guy, Crazy Ivan, from Red Alert 2.

kaboooom

lol..i remember the name I font remember what he actually used to do! Was he the one who used to fly?

and there are 5 o's in my name!

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you should, considering that you are scum, it is your objective to gain my approval. learn to play pls

well actually..that goes same for u!

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@garmr: What does my post you quoted have to do with my second post about mafia qt? kaboom, you can be quiet in your little corner, i don't need you right now.

In not here for your needs anyway.
attitude like that wont take you far! But its not your fault, its natural to be frustrated when scummies are busted!

I can vote people for arbitrary reasons as well. For instance: VOTE: Garmr because he felt the need to explicitly state that his vote is no longer

suuuper

RVS for an arbitrary reason.

That's terribly weak though so no, I will not oblige.

UNVOTE:

itsthe RVS which sets the game going..
imagine a game where all players confirm but dont want to vote untill they find anything scummy!

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If I were making an honest attempt to data-mine with my vote, my first priority isn't to explicitly state that my vote is no longer RVS.

I would question the person first. But hey, that's just my play style. Simply stating that someone is AtEing doesn't really accomplish anything other than fueling others to develop reads on your target for you. Please do some work yourself, don't be lazy.

I already stated that in my 2nd reason that if you are not a scum, I cant see why you did that. You could have enlighten me if you had a reason, rather than argue.

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Umm..guys..
Im not sure what is happening..mind explaining me?

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Okay, kabooooom is definitely a VI.

Because of the way your acting.

You didn't really address the point I was trying to make, but I guess that is ok. I guess you just like stating that your vote is serious before explaining why.

hah! U got right number of zeroes this time!

whats VI?

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V

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lla Townie

that would have worked if I were stupid, idiot and brainless like you are!

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I think a rule reminder might come in useful here.

1. This is a game. Have fun. Play to win but please don’t make personal attacks or use obscene or profane language.

yes, you are right! Sorry! To you too emo! ^^

also I guess we should stop discussion until game starts
lets wait for other players to confirm.

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Ok. I dont understand few terms, what is multiball? VI?
thats it for now.

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vote: emogirl

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Btw its L-1 so no more votes please!

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seriously kaboom... here is my impression of you:

"I'm voting emogirl.... for almost no reason other than everyone else is... and btw, no body else vote for her..."

seriously... wt fuck?

More or less you got that correct! The reason not to vote her is she is L-1. Means any more vote and she is out of the game. And the day overs! We wont have more clues on who the scums are! Mostly scums go for quick hammer! So those who voted her after me take back their votes!

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Prod received.

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I willbeable to use internet from my phone tii. It will take 3-4 days. Once it is done I willneed couple of days to catchup with you guys. Then after I will be able to play actively.

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Ok. I m back. But it will take me couple of days to read.

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v/la till monday

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With the speed you all are posting, i don't think i will be able to catch up. :/

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vote:kabooooom

i guess you all pause scumhunting for a second and get rid of assholes first!!

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Vote kab

Policy.

We should do this.

He actually has not posted any content since early D1 at this point and actually had that really awkward vote on emo early. The "I will put her at L-1 but don't hammer".

Slot is aggressively playing anti-town at this point and seems to know they can get away with it.

i dont blame you to think like that! :/

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seems like i m in spotlight!!!

i had busy days and not enough time to play every game! so it was all about priorities!! i recently completed my newbie 1468 (in which i was scum)!! so now i will be catching up. read till 8 pages. i still wont be able to give my best, cos i m playing in one more game other than this.

and no!! i wont flip scum cos i m not one!!

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aegor, tell me why you dont want mod to stop countdown??

it will not only give me and the guy who replaced ganmar time to read this game, but will also give time to post!

and,

@all those who are on my wagon- what makes you think i m scum other my lurking. there are post saying my posts are scummy.

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The amount of general acceptance of kab wagon but the inability to get more than four votes on him coupled with him still doing absolutely nothing and now making a not so subtle brush off of "not posting since D1 isn't scummy" makes him the lynch.

He is easily above average scum shot and he is a great utility lynch.

@ED - Kab is lurking and the little he did post was scummy, namely putting somepony at L-1 and requesting no hammers in a mountainous. Since D1 he has done absolutely nothing, and is trying to ignore the fact with his recent posts. There is not a lot of bullet points because he is doing NOTHING. He hasn't made a post that has any information in over a month. ABR seems to have been playing the same lurky state, but actually flaked out eventually which while he still remains a good information lynch, the long slow flake seems to mesh more with inability to get into a game due to time or interest instead of intentionally lurking. Basically a more town version of lurking.

umm..how is requesting no hammer when many days are left scummy?

and which fact am i trying to ignore with my recent posts?

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and which fact am i trying to ignore with my recent posts?

Well, let's look at your recent posts...

This one is defense of yourself.
Before that was a defense of yourself and mild poke on Aegor about the countdown (a town tell on Aegor from my perspective, frankly) Also a promise to read and post...that was posted over 24 hours ago...hows that read going?
Before that was defense of yourself
Before that was agreeing you were a good policy lynch.
Before that was a self vote.
Before that was a prod dodge.
Before that was a v/la announcement
Before that was a promise of reading...that was posted over four weeks ago...hows that read going?
Before that was a prod dodge.
Before that was a prod dodge
Before that was complaining about ending the day prior to getting info from people (not that you're doing anything with said info)
Before that was asking for an L-1 wagon to halt.
Before that you voted EmoGirl with no case presented.
Before that was asking for abbreviation definitions.
Before that the game hadn't started.


So...by my count you've told us about how you're reading, and that you're reading, and that you shouldn't be lynched but are a good policy lynch and you'll self vote yourself. Also, i guess you found Emo scummy for something.

So...how about talking about "any reads on anyone at all?"
That would be pretty shocking and unusual for you.

i guess that question was asked to rainbowgirl..

well, firstly that last post of mine was not a defense.

and secondly i havent ignored anything.

i agree that my behavior was scummy and i havent done anything to help the town, but now i m reading this game so i dont want to get lynched.

if you all are going to lynch me either way let me know so i dont waste my time reading this game.

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^Why kab is a better lynch than ABR, although both are acceptable.

and how is that post the reason i m a better lynch then ABR?

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"How you made a post asking for why you are scummy without any of that "lurking stuff" which is a pretty major point when you have contributed as much as a slot that was abandoned since D1"

it was because the reason i was suspected scummy except for that lurking part was that i voted emogirl and requested for no hammer. which i think still isnt scummy, cos i had to vote someone and i was also comfortable with that lynch.

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Because it is incredibly scummy.

"I am scummy."
"Do not lynch me even though I am scummy."
"I have done nothing pro-town."
"Do not lynch me even though I have done nothing pro-town."
"I will make my activity an ultimatum."


Every single one of those thoughts is a reason you should be lynched.

that post didnt really made any sense.

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vote:ABR

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am i conf town yet? zdenek/maenara is clearly town. that sucks how he died

of-course.............not!!

i have got a feeling that post count of this game is gonna reach billions! XD

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YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Spoiler:

were you trying to say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!and misspelled it YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS??

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vote:aegor

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i did care cos i used my time reading part of this game! i didnt care untill #1525. so its not that sudden.

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Well, let's look at your recent posts...

This one is defense of yourself.
Before that was a defense of yourself and mild poke on Aegor about the countdown (a town tell on Aegor from my perspective, frankly) Also a promise to read and post...that was posted over 24 hours ago...hows that read going?
Before that was defense of yourself
Before that was agreeing you were a good policy lynch.
Before that was a self vote.
Before that was a prod dodge.
Before that was a v/la announcement
Before that was a promise of reading...that was posted over four weeks ago...hows that read going?
Before that was a prod dodge.
Before that was a prod dodge
Before that was complaining about ending the day prior to getting info from people (not that you're doing anything with said info)
Before that was asking for an L-1 wagon to halt.
Before that you voted EmoGirl with no case presented.
Before that was asking for abbreviation definitions.
Before that the game hadn't started.

This is a very good representation of what you have been doing this game. So if you were reading after post 15xx something, I really don't see the effort afterwards. Of the limited content you have provided us, there is nothing you have done that can rule out for us the possibility of you being scum together with ABR.

Explain your aegor vote please.

he said he is comfortable with my or ABR lynch, but when ABR has more votes he wants me to get lynched first and ABR later..i dont see town doing that. looked to me like he wanted me lynched and then next day he would try to divert attention to some other player.

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Lynch pool today: Bulb, Rainbow, Emerald. Fine with inHim as well.

Emerald is pretty obv. town. How do you see it otherwise?

In other news, I'll also toss High Shroomish into the town pool.

what do you think of scotty and why?

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unvote

also how is bulb scum?

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unvote

also how is bulb scum?

Why did you unvote Aegor?

1. my case wasnt that strong enough.
2. i realized there wont be any votes in that wagon.

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UNVOTE:

VOTE: RainbowDash

Also kab should die if he is still useless by the end of this game day.

This is a better vote than your last one.
So I take it you agree with me that he's pretty obv. town and that's why you unvoted?


@Sotty - I'm with you there. My other one is Aegor, though, not Bulba. What are your thoughts about that?

@Kaboom - I lean town. Gut read reasoning. What's your take on her?

seems pretty town to me.

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seems pretty town to me.

...so why did you ask me my read on her? I didn't discuss her, I had expressed nothing much about her in a negative way, and you also don't have a negative view...so why ask? Were you expecting a hidden scumread there or something?

Basically I could be convinced when it comes to Aegor now. His pressure on me to unvote ABR yesterday when he was the leading wagon was all out of whack. I have a much higher scum read on bulb mostly because of his push on the emo slot, I pretty much hate it. There is also some gut thrown in there RE: my bulb read.

Also, pay attention to, at a point when ABR was the bigger wagon and Kaboom was coming up, Aegor did that odd move to Kaboom all while constantly re-stating that he was good with either wagon, but only really selling the Kaboom one. Feels like a bus he got spooked on. I'll admit I say this without really paying attention to ho whe got on the wagon (and I probably should look at that) but his actions there do read as nervy buddy to me rather than frustrated town looking for any lynch at all.

Can you give me the quick bullet points for the Bulba wagon? I get the feel a lot of it is centered in the earlier game days that I didn't read.
I don't feel I have a good grasp of it.

she is my one of the best townread. You didnt mention her when you daud ED and HS are your town read. So I wanted to know your read on her.

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Also, I dont have internet access tmr.

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Chevre??!!

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vote:aegor

as for my scin list- you, chevre, bulb, thor, discode (i dont have strong reasons for my read cos i have read much. I m out of town.)

null- ED, inhin, HS (inhin and HS are null cos i havent read posts of those guys.)

town-sotty (she was lead attacker in that ABR weagon.)

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L-2 btw.

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And emogul is town and rainbowgul is null.

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mod: is there a way discode can be mod killed?? Cant you just say you are not getting replacements and modkill him?

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Thor is also scum. I'm dead tonight. Lynch Chevre, Thor, Bulba in that order.

dont underestimate ED he is clever! As for chevre, I m good with lynching her but there wont be any sheeping in that wagon! Discode and chevre needs to be modkill!!

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Off topic!:- in my prev post, third line last work which is 'needs', is it wrong? I mean what should come, need or needs?

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So..??
do you have anything to say?? Aegor??

[kabooooom]

Hello all! I'm currently reading start to finish right now. It looks like we have some time at the moment, but I don't expect to waste any with my vote once I've finished reading. I'd appreciate it if there are any points in particular you think I should highlight in my read - let me know. Thanks!

imp notes:- you are scum!!

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Btw, welcome!

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Aegor, do you actually think acting frustrated will do anything helpful??!! Seriously??!!!!! Man!! Aren't you a scaredy scum!!

also try swear words one more time and see what happens to you!!

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chevre and bulb are your best scumread right?

[kabooooom]

huh??

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nvm..my point was if you cant convince other players to join your wagon, why dont you vote someone whom you think is second best scummy??

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"Neither are super-eager to push any sort of pressure on the other." cos i didn't care. :/

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"Neither are super-eager to push any sort of pressure on the other." cos i didn't care much. :/

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Oh, actually

VOTE: Chevre

That way, we do not need a replacement.

i dont think this wagon will get enough votes! but lets try anyways!

vote: chev.

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One more vote on kabooooom and I move my vote there as well.

i dont get this. i remember thor did this too, but why are you waiting for someone else to vote. i m asking in general irrespective of my wagon.

as for my wagon, its terrible!
i m going to keep my vote as it is for now.

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I probably won't get a chance to clarify any of my posts anymore, so if anyone needs anything from me, just ask. Otherwise I'm going to lurk.

what do u think of thesp?

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I probably won't get a chance to clarify any of my posts anymore, so if anyone needs anything from me, just ask. Otherwise I'm going to lurk.

what do u think of thesp?

oops!!! i meant pj. he is the one who replaced chevre so.

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Only 5 hours left, I guess I will hammer bulb.

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vote: bulb

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vote: bulb

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Oh ok!! Rainbow is at l-1!!

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vote:rainbowgul

p-edit:- no, cos ED voted bulb and put him at L-1 and then someone unvote bulb making him L-2, so when I voteh him, it was l-1 again.

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Oh ok. I see. Then u need to vote buddy.

unvote

vote:bulb

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Oh ok. I see. Then u need to vote buddy.

unvote

vote:bulb

If Rainbowdash was at L-1, would you be voting for her?

yup..

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cos i was answering to thesp.

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I m comfortable with pj, thesp or rainbowgul lynch.

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vote:pj

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I want kab to die soooooooooooooooooooo bad.

awwww...i feel sad for u!! cos thats not gonna happen!

but the opposite might happen!!

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kaboom, in our last game together you actually tried to build cases on people. If you are town, do you really want a reputation for only trying to hunt when you are scum?

nop. its just this game. i will never be able to catch up(also many times i dont get what the post means) . i tried but failed. now that we already have got 2 scums and there are couple of obv. town players, i will try to hunt scum by looking at their votes rather than their posts.

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Though what votes made you like PJ as a lynch?

umm..i still havent done that. i suspect pj just cos of emogirl.

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nop. it will take couple of days. i have thing i need to take care of irl.

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things*

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sotty she was the first to vote ABR when he was lynched.
you cos bulb turned out to be scum. and emogul.

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u mean inhim??
yeah..now that u mentioned, he actually is townie. not to forget he called me town and tried ppl to get in ABR wagon.

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pj cos of chevre. rainbow cos she tried to divert ABR wagon to me but unlike aegor (who was like a mad dog shouting "lynch kaboooooooom lynch kabooooom") she looke a bit townie which is what acum would do in my openion. and then there is thesp, who accused me of being scum. i m pretty sure most of you must have thought abt the plot that there is a chance that me and ABR were both scum and it was just a plot so that one of us can get a town read. i have a lot to say about that but lets not get there. thesp would be my first choice. then pj and lastly rainbow.

However, i m 24/7 happy with a aeigor lynch! you can consider him as my zeroth lynch!!

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umm..thats what troubling me. i think bulb just mentioned him to show that he was accusing him. maybe they had decided to come in contact with each other, or something like that. bulb did took his accusations from garmr to emo pretty fast. on top of that ganmar took pretty long amount of time to reply to that matter and only replied when maiestro mention him! and he didnt took long to vote emogul. i dont know if you noticed it or not but bulb tried his best to lynch emogul and when she would have flipped town he would have town read garmr. bulb had his vote for pretty long on emogul wagon even when he was the only one left (as far as i remember) and didnt changed it instantly! i see a similar behavior in thesp. he tried divert a wagon on me with theoretical(like bulb's accusation on emo/garmr). i think it was pretty obvious that i cant be scum cos there were many indirect factors responsible for that me vs. ABR situation to appear. after he failed to built a strong wagon on me he had his vote on me for pretty long time like bulb had on emo. i think thats a scum trait cos i have experienced it! in addition to that his vote on bulb was only cos he had to vote, not cos he wanted to!!

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theoretical reason*

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maybe. i havent read. thats the reason i keep my reasons with me and dont push anyone i find suspicious. i only have bit of information.

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nop..

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btw..how did this conversation started from, "Though what votes made you like PJ as a lynch?" to "replace out?" ??!!

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i never said i dont care whether you win or not. and i tried reading this game but its just too much. so i found an quick alternative(watching vote patterns) which i will try after 2 days or so. tell me, what do u think of my answers? u think they r just fluff or did those made any sense(even a bit) at all?

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Instead of NLing today, we should just lynch kab and then NL tomorrow.

VOTE: Kab

Will review game-yesterday tomorrow or the day after to see if anyone is more worthy than kab.

u need a doc!!

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@aeigor- y do u think there's going to be a NL today??!!

[kabooooom]

I'll agree a no lynch *is* helpful if all of town's lynch choices are totally random.

I'll even support a no lynch if everyone wants to tell me they have no town reads.

If people have any town reads at all though - then the plan is dumb.

how no lynch helps if no one has any town reads?! How can no lynch give any idea of who scum is like lynching does?

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Is it L-2??!!

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HS had his vote on ABR but not on Bulb. he sheeped bulb in starting your wagon! after ABR died he had his vote on thor and when he failed to start that wagon he turned up to you where bulb was already there. however i dont think if he was actually scum he would sheep bulb when there is already a big wagon on bulb.

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K..i got why you think of a no lynch. But actually with that logic, it will be best if we no lynch when there are 6 players alive.

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The most straightforward example: suppose you are convinced 6 players are Town ("Town pool") and the scum are therefore necessarily within the 4 remaining players ("elimination pool"), which is exactly how many lynches we have. No Lynching can only increase the odds of winning because it increases the odds scum will kill one of the 4 remaining players in the "elimination" pool. If that happens, then there will be 3 players to lynch between 4 lynches. That way, if it turns out the "elimination pool" was faulty in the first place, the Town will still get one last attempt at a lynch between the players who were considered Town (when in actuality one of them was Scum). And of course even if scum manage to only hit the "Town pool" then it will not change the fact that all 4 players int he "elimination pool" will be lynched.

Isn't the fundamental point of no lynching at it's peak when we get down to four players? Isn't that when it increases our chances the most? I mean unless you are arguing we no lynch more than once, I just don't get why we do it now rather than near the end.

Thor what's your scum pile outside PJ? I'm curious on your reads of Rainbow, Kab and inhim right now and if they have changed. I should have some time today to look back though HS and emeraldemon, two slots I'm not really sure on at this point. That way I can sort them either side of the pile.

I do think PJ's points on Thesp feeling outside the game are pretty good. It kinda struck me as a red flag after we have lynched two scum, for him to feel despondent like that.

because when last 4 players are left and we no lynch then scum will decide whom to kill so he will kill the most townie guy. On the other if we no lynch right now we will naturally reach at a point where 4 players are left and next day we have to lynch from 3. So pj and rainbow wants to no lynch now, but the fact is its not going to help at all! Because scum is obviously going to kill someone who is very town. And we will be back to square one. And there is pretty good chance scum is from the one who wants no lynch.

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Hi. I was on both the bulb and the ABR lynch. You can stop calling me useless now.

Since when is being 'right' and being 'useful' synonymous? You know exactly what I mean.

Thor what's your scum pile outside PJ? I'm curious on your reads of Rainbow, Kab and inhim right now and if they have changed.

In order;

Maybe scum, I don't think he's scum, and town.

Those are also probably in reverse order of how strongly I believe each of them. InHim is just a flat out town read for me and it's for the reasons expressed yesterday as regards his interactions with me and his votes during the ABR push. It doesn't feel like a bus - at all. Kab is...an itch, I'll agree. However, I'm accepting prima facie the meta about him and, also, for how useless he's been he's...y'know, been relatively forthright in expressing thoughts. Really, the worst scumtell I could paste to him is that I'm the only one defending him, meaning that if he's a mislynch no one is bothering to white knight him...except I sorta think Bulba defended him too. Eh, if I thought he was a lynch today maybe I'd bother researching it, but I just don't think he's wise. Rainbow is a much larger 'meh' area for me. I still find her scummy, I'm just personally not really expecting there to have been two wagons on scum yesterday and also find PJ's interactions yesterday in and line and of equal value to my issues with Rainbow yesterday. I even think both slots are being equally anti-town in their actions today. I would maybe even go so far as to say that the only reason I picked PJ over RBD today is simply a gut vibe, and I'm not sure what gave it to me. If we lynch one today and they flip town I'm likely to want to lynch the other the next day. But right at this stage PJ feels like a good lynch to me. My scum pile outside of PJ would be Thesp and RBD with a strong preference for RBD and, if down to just Thesp, I'd probably debate between him and you.

What is your take on those three?

seems very incorrect to me, because I would put the odds of scum killing someone in the elimination pool very near to zero, and the odds of scum killing someone in the town pool near 100%. Let's say hypothetically that kaboom is town. Is he gonna get NK'd tonight? Scum has used a fairly straightforward and successful NK strategy so far: kill helpful and townread players. I can't imagine they'd stop now.

^^^
Gets it.

why do you want to lynch one of your town reads??

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you said thesp was your town read..but in that post of yours you said he is your 3rd preferred lynch.

also in case you didnt notice your reads are same as mine. and still you call my reads lazy! :/

[kabooooom]

You're clearly horribly misreading something since I never indicated this.

He might be talking about the fact you said you would lynch either me or Thesp when yesterday you thought I was town

yes exactly!

[kabooooom]

You're clearly horribly misreading something since I never indicated this.

He might be talking about the fact you said you would lynch either me or Thesp when yesterday you thought I was town

umm..no its not that actually!

[kabooooom]

Of course, the real question, and the more difficult one: does all this mean PJ is scum?

I think the real question is why didn't you provide us with your opinion along with this question?

Since when is being 'right' and being 'useful' synonymous? You know exactly what I mean.

Perhaps, but I feel like you were calling me out for no reason, I'm working though this game and calling me useless was pretty bullshit so I wasn't about to let you slide with that. AKA I'm pretty sure I have done more to lynch scum this game than you.

That aside, I actually want to lynch Thesp at this point.

Kab is pretty obv town. He seemed open and willing to engage with you and all that is perfectly fine. Do I like how he is playing? No, I don't, but it doesn't make him scum. Rainbow I think is also town, but like you this is mostly a gut reaction. Just the way her wagon was going yesterday and instead of fighting it she just wanted us to lynch you the next day. I mean, I just don't buy scum giving up. I just got all kind of town pings towards the end of the day that I didn't want to even compromise with her lynch like I said I was like a day or so before.

inhim is town like I thought, but didn't you have some suspicions on him yesterday? Or am I mixing that up with Thesp? I'll have to look back. I just remember people pushing weakass scumminess on him.

My current scum pile is Thesp, PJ, HS and emeraldemon. Thesp playing weak at the start of the day was extremely out of sorts from what I remember of him. I just don't see how town, even town that has been wrong at every turn, can come into today feeling down. We're a lynch away from winning the game. Considering how relatively painful it was to get both of those lynches I really feel like strutting around all day today, fuck the haters. I'm going to look back on the vote exchange between Thesp's slot and bulb in the early game, you were quick to clear his slot for that despite not reading day one, can you detail why?

PJ because a little of Chreve but mostly because he's come in and been very off the beaten track of this game despite reading it twice or at least almost twice now. The no lynch thing is crap, I feel like he knows it too. I might need to review his Rainbow push, Scum loyalty didn't make much sense to me the first time he said it, so we'll see.

HS because he fell completely off the radar for me. I can't even tell you what he has done lately cause I don't know. Defaults into scum.

emeraldemon is tricky. I thought he was town in the early game because of his newbiness, but he comes out and starts talking about things like multiball and even SKs, it just feels a little wrong. Bulb does vote him early and abandons it with much thought. I just feel like his posts are hiding something, it's little things like in his last one asking about PJ being scum rather than offering an opinion on what he posted himself. It's like he knows more than he is letting on and I can't put my finger on what that is.

PJ has fallen down my lynch list at this point a little. But I am still very eager to see what more he has to put into the game.

and what do you think of thor??

[kabooooom]

yeah he seems town. but dont let him fool you! he is kinda guy who lets town vs. town situation and wins the game!

and what does this even mean??

"Gonna break out my crayons this afternoon."

[kabooooom]

kab I hope you don't take this too personally when I say I just flat-out don't understand you. Haven't for the whole game, in fact.

[kabooooom]

Thesp,

why is your attention so narrowly focused on kab? You admit the possibility that both D3 wagonsw ere on scum and have told me that you found kab's vote timing weird. You have not actually developed those lines of thought at all. Please do so now: why is kab scummy? What made kab's votes suspect? How do you reconcile his voting pattern with scum alignment? Why do I feel like you are not really trying?

Want to lynch between PJ and HS today. PJ's posts have been IIoA, and bad A at that. The No Lynch thing seems more like a stalling tactic than anything else. Chevre's slot is hella scum. Already posted my thoughts on HS.

What do you mean on developing those lines of thought? kabooooom votes for ABR at the sort of time you would bus your partner when they were probably going to be lynched anyway, and doesn't push hard for ABR at all. ABR votes for kabooooom, but doesn't push the wagon at all either. They look like they want their votes to show up on each other, but I see no real effort from either to get the other lynched. Notably, Bulbazak doesn't vote on either, but stays on the sideline between the two of them.

I also don't think PJ's no lynch thoughts are stalling, I think he opened with that, and would begin with that regardless of his alignment.

pure fluff!! i have lot to say but that would just be waste of my time!

[kabooooom]

Thesp,

why is your attention so narrowly focused on kab? You admit the possibility that both D3 wagonsw ere on scum and have told me that you found kab's vote timing weird. You have not actually developed those lines of thought at all. Please do so now: why is kab scummy? What made kab's votes suspect? How do you reconcile his voting pattern with scum alignment? Why do I feel like you are not really trying?

Want to lynch between PJ and HS today. PJ's posts have been IIoA, and bad A at that. The No Lynch thing seems more like a stalling tactic than anything else. Chevre's slot is hella scum. Already posted my thoughts on HS.

What do you mean on developing those lines of thought? kabooooom votes for ABR at the sort of time you would bus your partner when they were probably going to be lynched anyway, and doesn't push hard for ABR at all. ABR votes for kabooooom, but doesn't push the wagon at all either. They look like they want their votes to show up on each other, but I see no real effort from either to get the other lynched. Notably, Bulbazak doesn't vote on either, but stays on the sideline between the two of them.

I also don't think PJ's no lynch thoughts are stalling, I think he opened with that, and would begin with that regardless of his alignment.

pure fluff!! i have lot to say but that would just be waste of my time!

I'd love to know who your top 3 scum picks are, and

why

they are your top 3 scum picks.

i already did in my post #2378 if you paid any attention at all you would have known!

[kabooooom]

knew*

[kabooooom]

Thesp,

why is your attention so narrowly focused on kab? You admit the possibility that both D3 wagonsw ere on scum and have told me that you found kab's vote timing weird. You have not actually developed those lines of thought at all. Please do so now: why is kab scummy? What made kab's votes suspect? How do you reconcile his voting pattern with scum alignment? Why do I feel like you are not really trying?

Want to lynch between PJ and HS today. PJ's posts have been IIoA, and bad A at that. The No Lynch thing seems more like a stalling tactic than anything else. Chevre's slot is hella scum. Already posted my thoughts on HS.

What do you mean on developing those lines of thought? kabooooom votes for ABR at the sort of time you would bus your partner when they were probably going to be lynched anyway, and doesn't push hard for ABR at all. ABR votes for kabooooom, but doesn't push the wagon at all either. They look like they want their votes to show up on each other, but I see no real effort from either to get the other lynched. Notably, Bulbazak doesn't vote on either, but stays on the sideline between the two of them.

I also don't think PJ's no lynch thoughts are stalling, I think he opened with that, and would begin with that regardless of his alignment.

pure fluff!! i have lot to say but that would just be waste of my time!

I'd love to know who your top 3 scum picks are, and

why

they are your top 3 scum picks.

i already did in my post #2378 if you paid any attention at all you would have known!

I overlooked that it was indeed a top 3 list - it was hard to read. In any case, thanks for pointing me to it.

Happy with my vote.

dont you feel like convincing others to join your wagon cos it doesn't seems that she will be lynched! however if you dont care, its a different thing then.

[kabooooom]

HS, i don't think anyone's going to vote aegor. You meet to vote from those wagon formed!

[kabooooom]

Need*

[kabooooom]

Also, I apologize to everyone for being so apathetic this game. It's not my normal play, especially this far into a game.

appologies accepted! Make sure you dont play like this in any other game! XD

actually I appologise to everyone as well. This is not how I play.

[kabooooom]

Pj- what about the accussations emogirl made on chevre??

surely if you are town those accussations must be wrong, so prove them wrong.

[kabooooom]

Pj- what about the accussations emogirl made on chevre??

surely if you are town those accussations must be wrong, so prove them wrong.

Which accusations are you concerned with?

its there between ABR aabd bulb lynch before page 90. Thats all I know.

[kabooooom]

Nop.

[kabooooom]

Your list is weak!!
there are more scummy players compared to me and aegor!
if pj flips town and you plan to lynch me or aegor, you would be wasting your time!

[kabooooom]

Kaboom, why do you think Aegor is town?

I never said he is town! I said there are more scummy players than aegor!

[kabooooom]

I will direct those questions once I get home.

and just so you know, my vote on you is cos of emogul's case on you. I will reread all the stuff cos I remember emogul saying if bulb scumflips chevre might not be scum.

also let me know your reads on thor and ED from whatever posts there are.

[kabooooom]

For that matter how is he only voting him in two VCs, the entire game?

Garmr was voting bulba in about 6 VCs, from 1177 to 1466. For most of that time the only other vote on bulba was inHim. This was day 2, when the big fight was Nobody Special vs. ABR. So my point really had nothing to do with Bulba interacting with garmr, I'm saying Garmr (and somewhat inHim) were trying unsuccessfully to get a bulb wagon going when that was not a popular opinion to have. Also in the end Garmr gets so pissed off at bulba that he replaces out. Is that really how scum buddies would interact?

I think garmr was banned and so he had to replace.

[kabooooom]

Who is casso??!!
is that your second account thor??!!

[kabooooom]

@pj- I will tell you tmr!! I m busy today!!

[kabooooom]

Its not confusing. I was just asking.

[kabooooom]

Pj- I meant post 2210. You havent replied to that post.

[kabooooom]

@everyone not on the PJ wagon
Say for a minute that the person you're voting is actually town. At this point, do you believe that there is scum on the PJ wagon.

and what do you think?? you are not on pj wagon either.

[kabooooom]

unvote

vote: rainbowgul

[kabooooom]

Nop..i dont think pj is scum anymore!
I m voting rainbow cos I suspect her the most! There is someone I find scummy but there is no point in declaring it now.

as for hammer, dont do it. There are still 3 days and consider reading pj's wagon once more. Let the wagon be at L-1, I will hammer myself when there is one or less day left.

[kabooooom]

Wait, I'm thinking the same thing as kaboom? No I'm really paranoid...

[kabooooom]

prod dodge. just in case.

[kabooooom]

so times is running out. whom do we lynch. i m not feeling confident in rainbowgul's wagon either.

[kabooooom]

Lets see..

[kabooooom]

Lets see..

[kabooooom]

Ummm...you're voting for Rainbowdash.

lets see..

[kabooooom]

[kabooooom]

I actually meant yes I know my vote is on rainbowdash.

[kabooooom]

I feel silly - I read HighShroomish's post as if it were yours. That will teach me to play by phone.

such problems will occur more in phone.

[kabooooom]

Only 1.5 day left.

[kabooooom]

Pj is not in L-1. If she were, I would have ended or something.

[kabooooom]

If two people are thinking like you are that's why we have a drawn out day like today - so why not be the one who puts PJ at L-1?

I know this alright.
but it doesnt seems there will be a rainbow gul lynch today.

so..

vote: pj

I know that, and I m doing it!!!

[kabooooom]

If two people are thinking like you are that's why we have a drawn out day like today - so why not be the one who puts PJ at L-1?

I know this alright.
but it doesnt seems there will be a rainbow gul lynch today.

so..

vote: pj

p-edit: I know that, and I m doing it!!!

[kabooooom]

L-1 btw..

[kabooooom]

anyone wanna hammer??

[kabooooom]

??

[kabooooom]

HEEEEEELLLLOOOOOOO AAAANNNNNYYYYYBBBBBOOOOOOODDDDDYYYYY HOOOOOOOMMMMMMEEEE

it seems everyone is sleeping. :/

[kabooooom]

Forgive me. Reading up now.

hammer! Hammer! Hammer!.....

[kabooooom]

Scotty ( ) will vote. She is our last hope.

[kabooooom]

Lets hope she is scum.

[kabooooom]

Try to look he was doing something I guess..

[kabooooom]

I think thesp would be scum.

but anyways..

vote:rainbowgul

[kabooooom]

Lol! speak of the devil...

[kabooooom]

VOTE: Kab

I know he voted on both scum wagons and neither town wagon D1, but he should die.

no comments. i would want the same if i were in your place.

[kabooooom]

Well but its the truth! :/

[kabooooom]

Yay! I knew it! I was actually gonna change my vote to thesp, but then i thought and decided that i will vote him next day. I was suspicious of aegor because it seemed to me like he was faking his post when he was going like 'can we lynch pj now' and such, cos he got a town ticket when he was pushing too hard for my wagon against ABR.

and i m very sorry for my almost no contribution. This is not the way i play.i feel bad cos pj should have lived. He got lynched even after his contribution and i was alive even though i hardly did anything. Though i tried to lynch rainbow but it was too late.

and thanks huntress for giving me a chance to play!

[kabooooom]

Yup! GG everyone.

[kabooooom]

Huntress- +1 to shorter day and night deadlines. Maybe keep 2 weeks until around 50% of players are alive. Then maybe reduce day deadline to 1 or 1.5 week.