NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[DOMO]

i saw something from nat early in the game--that i will not elaborate on--and haven't trusted you since

God please don't do this just as I'm finally townreading ffery.

[DOMO]

I'm actually thinking we should speedlynch sakura. Who brought this subject up?

[DOMO]

vote sakura

[DOMO]

desp started off tyring to buddy sakura. That then collapsed into a scumread. That feels reasonably town motivated. Not pushing for #1 scumread isn't in its own right a scum tell, that then comes down to meta. I've played desp once and we was more aggressive. I don't see him calling those who scumreading him an idiot, although he might have. I found him to be quite rude in the face of critisism in oz, where I consider him to have been sort of scum. Here he just seems dismissive.

I'm leaning town with desp, but my meta with him is very limited and complicated due to the nature of our last game.

pedit - Do you agree or not that this is not the same desp we saw in oz?

who fucking cares what i looked like in oz? i was in that game for one day and it wasn't even mafia

please click my username and find some actual games if you're going to try and meta me

This is not scum.

[DOMO]

vote casso

Please lynch the shit out of sakura tomorrow.

[DOMO]

Or SSK.

[DOMO]

DOMO you're making me cranky.

Good, that's revenge for making me think my gunsmith clear is scum.

[DOMO]

vote casso

Please lynch the shit out of sakura tomorrow.

Oh? I thought you wanted to speedlynch me today?

Why are you quoting me and making pointless comments? There's a page of people pointing the finger at you, but instead of wandering what motives might inspire such comments, you focus on conftown being indecisive. This is pure fluff at a time you would be better served trying responding to people's concerns.

[DOMO]

I thought that I said getting lynched is a win:win situation for me?

Why? Are you that sure casso is town that you're willing to go down instead of him?

[DOMO]

But surely you're more certain about your towniness than casso's? It makes no sense to me at all. Why play if your strategy is to die to keep stronger players alive?

[DOMO]

What about what he said can't come from scum

For someone who loves commas so much, this is poor use of language!

What motivation is there for scumdesp to ridicule the townread he's getting from the closest we have to conftown?

[DOMO]

My sig is supposed to be ironic.

I think that would be more obvious if you didn't use commas.

I can actually remember a few times where I have done the same exact thing as scum.

Show me.

[DOMO]

SAD, you seemed to be scumreading casso d1 but have managed to dodge his wagons today. Why?

[DOMO]

I like f16's meta wall there. I wish I could be bothered to metadive people properly.

I can accept sakura as town assuming f16 is town.

[DOMO]

dunno, but i'm not so much reading nat over you as i am finding something nat did really scummy and then you not doing anything obviously town to counterbalance it

Can you expand on this scummy thing nat did? A simple "no" and I'll assume it's out of bounds.

[DOMO]

Generic, which of the players in this game have you played with before besides Mara? Do you have any strong reads on any of them?

Played with bert (town read), nacho (scum read), natirasha (scum lean), tammy (town read), GIF (slight scum lean), F16 (town lean), mafiaSSK (scum lean), Pieguyn (scum lean), Sakura hana (town lean), desperado (town lean, but unsettled by his lack of involvement).

I think I've also played in a game with BROseidon but he is null in this one to me.

Generic, why don't you sell it yourself? What has changed since this stage of the game to make desp scum and casso not?

fwiw I like this post, these reads look legit and solid.

[DOMO]

Why. Anyone can attach designations to players.

Yes, well anyone can do [enter every town tell here]. Shall I just ask random.org to give me a list of reads?

generic reads as sincere. If he's scum, he's amazing at faking pissy rants, and he's very natural with his responses to people. Yes he could be scum. I do not think so.

I feel strongly enough about generic being town that I'm more worried about you trying to slap down other people's townread on him.

[DOMO]

I can't imagine why that would worry you?

It worries me because generic has given reason to at least have those scumreading him to reconsider, but you seem unwilling. Looks to me like you're keeping your mislynch options open. I must've said three times during your little discussion with generic that it's town-town, but you showed no sign of relenting. I could understand you being cautious if I were looking dodgy, but I'm as conftown here as I was in xenoblade. I might be wrong, of course, but you should at least consider my comments sincere.

[DOMO]

Do you see him reconsidering? So why aren't you nervous about him?

Have you given him reason too? I'm more confident he's town than you. And yes he reconsidered me when he got pissy and took a day off.

P.S. I'm actually becoming town as shit right now

News to me.

You are a riot cephrir, next you will be telling me being a moron is a town tell for you.

First smile of the day.

Yeah this looks more like town-scum now, and I'm towning generic pretty hard.

[DOMO]

cwphrir-generic stuff is really shit to read through

I disagree, I find it amusing, even more so when I'm not slinging shit.

[DOMO]

I am looking forward to this day ending. If I'm not killed, I'll readjust based on flips and report. If I am killed, then pretty much ignore everything I said if casso flips town, but take another look if he flips scum.

We have under 24 hours and we should decide where we're going.

Hey ffery, have some paranoia....

2. geists (fferyllt + Natirasha) --- gunsmith cleared - I've been wildly paranoid about ffery this game for some reason but I do think it's just that - paranoia. Consider lynching only if it's lylo and scum doc is the only one left to find.
3. Casso the King of Seals (Nachomamma8 + Thor665) --- I think scum, and pretty much the way I'm reading this game revolves around casso being scum. If he does happen to flip town, then these reads are more or less worthless.
4. MC Maraca (Cabd + Ms Marangal) --- Probably mason, there's been no cc. If he isn't a mason, then the person who everyone knows is his partner but shall not say it out loud is very probably scum too, thus it's unlikely.
5. F-16_Fighting_Falcon --- I didn't like his rolefishing, that's pretty much why I'm not liking F16 as much as I would like to be. Feels mostly town but that pinged hard.
6. Generic --- town as fuck or scum who should stop wasting his time playing internet games and become an actor.
7. Bert roflcopter --- I think bert is just a not-quite-so-full-on-and-makes-a-lot-more-sense-varsoon. Very town through d1, had a wobble today but has looked better since, I guess he's null because I wouldn't be all that surprised at either flip.
8. MafiaSSK --- I can't see SSK flipping town. That said, we don't lynch him today and if I make it through the night we reassess.
10. pieguyn --- I'd probably say I'm leaning scum with pie. I'm having a hard time reading him and maybe that's because he's got his guards up. Doesn't feel like a natural townie in the same sense as ffery and nacho (and yes I think nacho can fake natural town).
11. BROseidon --- We should all know how good BRO is as scum. Every game I see him play he seems to be scum, and he always seems to win. Null because while I think he's town, I can't say I trust that read even remotely.
12. Norlkaz --- idk, null I guess. I'm sure I got good feeling from nork at some point, but I don't know him so idk how good he is. If everyone else seems to be emerging as town and it seems there's one in the shadows, then this is probably your man.
13. KoreanBBQ (GuyInFreezer + Nero Cain) --- self vote looked good, if it wasn't for that I'd be leaning scum so I guess that solitary town tell can make these pair null.
14. goodmorning --- *cough* town, no reason
15. Sakura Hana --- gotta be town based on f16's dive. That assessment was honest and solid as hell regardless of f16's alignment.
16. Ser Arthur Dayne --- yeah I guess I have a scum lean with SAD, he's a tough one to read though
17. zMuffinMan --- I think town, though a scum flip wouldn't shock me all that much.
18. DOMO -- MVP
19. Cephrir --- I've gotta say I think this is scum ceph. I really don't like his hard towning of me, and while he's had flashes of town, I think his motivations seem somewhat scummy. His refusal to even reconsider generic is alarming, because generic comes across as legit to me.
20. Desperado --- I guess I'm null, much like bert. The oz comparisons are unreliable. All I learned about desp that game was that I was right, he wasn't what I considered town. Neither were most the player list, so I was likely to be right about most of my "scumreads" as I tried to figure out what the fuck was going on. idk, sometimes I just talk shit as a reaction test without even knowing what reaction I'm looking for. In fact I do that all the time.

So in order of confidence I'm thinking casso, ceph, pie + SAD, and prob one more.

[DOMO]

Sorry mate

I don't care. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. I don't expect you to hi5 and say "hey domo you're fucking awesome" if I'm right, you're obviously going to tell me I'm wrong because either I am or you want people to think I am.

[DOMO]

No it's not clear you're town nork. Not having enough time to really get involved was a null tell last time I checked.

[DOMO]

I'm not going to oppose a hammer but I expect a town flip so I'm not hammering.

[DOMO]

I'll get to all the conversations I left hanging on D3. But Cephrir wagon would actually be pretty awesome right now.

I would agree.

[DOMO]

Oh, hammer. Not sure I like that but I did just say I wouldn't oppose it so I can hardly complain. It would've been nice to see if we could get ceph lynched though.

Any in the event I get NK'ed, gl town.

pedit - hammered

[DOMO]

Basically ceph I'm reading it like this...

Yeah lynch me guys, but whatever you do don't lynch casso and then gunsmith check me.

[DOMO]

Because I'd ask to be gunsmith'd rather than lynched.

[DOMO]

Oh right it was gambit? Haha awesome if it was, I totally fell for it.

[DOMO]

Desperado (7) - MC Maraca, Casso the King of Seals, Sakura Hana, Generic, Cephrir, Ser Arthur Dayne, pieguyn

Haha.

Great. Who wants to lynch cephrir?

[DOMO]

I do.

vote cephrir

[DOMO]

Way to ruin a reaction test guys.

Plural? Generic blew that one. No point pretending from there.

Ceph flashwagon tempt you?

[DOMO]

DOMO is also going down there since it seems like him and Bert are doing everything to avoid a Desp lynch.

Are you scumreading me there? Haha I hope so.

[DOMO]

Bingo, prob. Desp is a strong scum PR hence why he's so fricken hard to lynch.

Hard to lynch? He got to L-1 and I briefly considered hammering because we're so close to deadline. Are you kidding me?

[DOMO]

If desp does happen to be scum then I would agree that bert looks worse, I can argue there.

[DOMO]

lol well done for identifying when I briefly considered it.

[DOMO]

Did I win MVP?

[DOMO]

Ignoring the bad crumb, the subsequent geists misread, and towning generic when he threw a wobbler, I actually played very well. I mean there was a point I had casso, generic and SSK all nailed as scum, and I never lost sight of casso. I fucking told everyone that the sudden diversion from casso to SSK showed that casso must be scum unless SSK was somehow town, and I fucking said that casso slipped with his comment that he didn't think whatever was a scumslip. All hail DOMO.

Also, huge props to BBQ for picking up on casso talking as though there was only one scum, that was expert.

[DOMO]

Jesus that scum QT

[DOMO]

It took long enough just to read the stuff from when I was in the game. I don't think I want to see market QT lol

[DOMO]

gj Domo, you were obvtown after you stopped fluffing it up.

I stopped fluffing it up?