NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[Vifam]

Is she pretending to be a clutsy anime girl what the hell is she up to

[Vifam]

Is she pretending to be a clutsy anime girl what the hell is she up to

ewww.. that is lame. if you think that is cute.. let me tell you .... it is a bad joke.. i hate animes.. seriously. I am 25 yrs old..not a silly teenager..

and for change.. Stop calling me dumb, I am not here as much as i am in the other games becuz i still don't feel that i am part of this game yet, becuz when i joined i had like 40 pages to catch up and you alll 40 pages ahead and pretty much knows whats in each others pants.. so now.. stop calling mr dumb, null , or etc. and for god sake.... concentrate on scum hunting..huh!!!

Speak of which ... Majiffy's nicely tricked me to vote underarchives, so how many of you think that he could be possible scum or does he have a town read?

Sorry

[Vifam]

And it looks like you're getting the winky face too. UA was scummy as fuck and you know it. Don't give me this BS.

I'm saying that the argument you got in was ridiculous and there really is no reason to get sucked into that if you're town. I didn't think Mastin would get sucked into it either and would just post his reads which is why going into twilight I just thought he was scum. It takes two to bicker but that was literally pointless and I don't think you'd get involved with that as town

also vifam, why aren't you talking to me

Yo

[Vifam]

Vifam who was your biggest townread going into last night?

Also ya matt is scum too.

So lets do this. Zabriel/Vifam/Matt. Awesome picks for today.

That's a terrible list.

My biggest townread was MattP and it still is MattP

[Vifam]

Jacob comes up a lot but whenever he does I can't remember a single thing he's posted or said in this game

[Vifam]

If MattP is town he's gonna attract protection so he's a bad kill from a scum perspective

[Vifam]

Chkflip wasn't very vocal and was playing lowkey, he probably got the nightkill because scum thought he was a PR, and if he wasn't it wouldn't give much information by the way he was playing.

Makes sense to me

[Vifam]

Although I didn't really think about the kill until you asked me about it

[Vifam]

Why do you say JacobSavage is a shitty wagon than entertain the fact that he could be 4th scum

[Vifam]

Also @

AJ

: I have a question I want to ask you in real time when we are both on.

Fair enough.

Hmm, guess JS is kinda in my lens via PoE. Im getting some good townreads this game. JS had one post in particular that rubbed me wrong.

But he is an easy wagon and the votes on him seem like layovers from yesterday / no real reasoning provided (hell I consider link to a post with 'gut' as reasoning enough for me to consider). I'd rather lynch a scumbag today that is less likely to get lynched w/o my help, (So basically you/mattp). Because if I die, there is no fucking way either of you is getting lynched.

I'm not scum though.

98% sure MattP isn't either

[Vifam]

Objectviely, I think Zab is actually my strongest gut scumread.

I could buy Zab being scum

[Vifam]

This JacobSavage wagon is smelling an awful lot like a shitty wagon.

Why? He's done absolutely no scum hunting.

That sounds like a really weak reason to start this wagon

[Vifam]

Joe Flacco is ELITE

AP I have no idea what you're saying in that post

[Vifam]

That was literally a theory I made up in a few minutes when I thought about Chkflip's play from a scum perspective, it didn't take much thought

[Vifam]

I was implying that what I thought could be taken with a grain of salt

[Vifam]

Looks like AP took a few notes from Fate if that's what you mean

[Vifam]

Jacob comes up a lot but whenever he does I can't remember a single thing he's posted or said in this game

This JacobSavage wagon is smelling an awful lot like a shitty wagon.

Why? He's done absolutely no scum hunting.

That sounds like a really weak reason to start this wagon

Also what the fuck. Guys, Vifam is mafia and its obvious as shit.

In 1510, Vifam responds to JS votes with this really passive and subtle support.
Moz: Jacob is a good wagon.
P_A: JS is scum for sheeping and lurking.
Mollie: Well JS was probably busy. Give him a chance.
Vifam: Ya I can't remember anything of value that JS has done.

--
Then later down in 1522 Vifam suddenly has sympathy for JS's lurking.
Moz: JS is scum for lurking / lack of scum hunting
Vifam: Your vote is shady as fuck.

Vifam is posturing like fuck wrt the JS wagon here. Casting JS in a bad light in response to JS votes (essentially implying the votes are justified because JS is useless) just to turn on Moz and tell him his vote is shitty since its based on JS's lack of play?

The first quote was just me saying that JS wasn't a memorable player and you assume that for that reason I was entertaining that he could be scum, which isn't true at all

There was no attempt to shroud doubt on JS there and that was a huge misrep

[Vifam]

I dunno about vifam. there have been a few times that he has said exactly what I was thinking and I tend to see that as town although I know there are crossovers like that between scum and town. I already tried to do a reach out to him and he was all like "yo" so he lost some town points for that but I just don't know him as a player at all - his refusal to interact with me makes it hard to get a read but so far I have had him as town.

Sorry, if you ask me a question I'll answer it unless I get sidetracked. But if your personality doesn't really interest me I'll just ignore you for the most part.

Nothing against you I just don't really interact well with some of the people on this site.

[Vifam]

This wagon building up on me is dumb and it's not gonna fly.

If Majiffy is telling the truth and he really does comment on every little thing directed at him, then I guess he wasn't necessarily getting into such a stupid argument with Mastin just to distance himself from the flip.

Rev, I have NO IDEA what Zab's meta is and you can't expect me to just sit here and believe he's 100% town because he's playing better or something, I'm not all about lynching Zab but he's not completely off the list for scum and that's not an outrageous statement.

Chkflip being confirmed town obviously wasn't 100%.

[Vifam]

Where have I been buddying with MattP

[Vifam]

I've been ignoring this argument because I thought of Me/MattP as a cute duo but now that it's being used as an actual argument for me being scum I'd like to see some evidence

[Vifam]

I guess a lot of people saw it as obvious that the Mod was punishing the town for chkflip's behavior by docking time.

I was reading a lot of pages and I kind of glossed over that part. I assumed that it couldnt have been the case, because that is...sketchy modding to say the least. Force replacing would have been 100x more appropriate.

But I guess that IS what happened and it was fairly obvious to the scumteam that Chkflip was accidentally modfirmed.

I don't know, I didn't think it made Chkflip 100% confirmed town but I did agree with Hero when he pointed it out, just not to the huge extent.

[Vifam]

I've attempted to reach out but half of the time I think his cases are crap (the one on IAI) and the other half he becomes apathetic and sits on IAI, who is leaning town to me.

I feel like he's still obvious town though, just resilient

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

[Vifam]

Zab isn't voting Mat

[Vifam]

Maybe we should just lynch ArcAngel

[Vifam]

Lets be real the vote on Majiffy is really bad

[Vifam]

To be honest I feel like if we let her slide on her play if she's scum, it's gonna be disastrous

[Vifam]

ArcAngel had reads when she first replaced in but she's basically said fuck it and has reduced herself to just sheeping whatever looks good.

It's like she's stripped herself of all real thought

[Vifam]

I don't think JS has outright giving up on trying to be town

[Vifam]

I guess.

I just think ArcAngel has a standard as town and she's obviously not playing up to it

[Vifam]

Holy shit Maestro is fast

~Only on Mondays

[Vifam]

Fuck wiki pages

[Vifam]

My playstyle has changed a lot and my most recent town game was in mafiastuck, everything before that is pretty useless since I was trying REALLY hard to win games back then.

[Vifam]

I actually do better now that I don't do walls and delude myself into thinking this is important when it's really not

There should be a name for this mindset

[Vifam]

Nice catch UberNinja

[Vifam]

Not really though

When it comes to actual PARAGRAPHS I always add in punctuation, as scum or town

[Vifam]

I think that's just subconscious though tbh

[Vifam]

You're dumb

[Vifam]

Legitimately dumb

[Vifam]

lol

[Vifam]

It's really fucking stupid how you think it's some type of quirk I have as mafia that I SUDDENLY start using puncuation. Whenever I get longwinded or somewhat passionate when writing a post I always use correct grammar.

It's even more stupid when you consider that I'm like this OUT OF GAME too, if you look at any post I've written that was long/passionate, I step up the grammar.

In mafistuck when I wanted to lynch Fate after being outted as doc I typed out lengthy cases so people would know I was serious. So yeah, you're dumb if you think it's a quirk

[Vifam]

I guess it is a "quirk" since I only do it when I'm being somewhat serious though

But it doesn't indicate my alligment

[Vifam]

Jacob is a funny guy

[Vifam]

All these wagons are shitty

[Vifam]

ActionDan's play has become a lot weaker since D1, he was leaning town at first but the more he posts the worse I feel about him.

[Vifam]

That's not what I was getting at at all

[Vifam]

La la la didn't read much after UN's shitpost... Get back to this tomorrow but
VOTE: UberNinja

You're totally stupid. That or you're Vifam's scumbuddy.

Actually this makes sense. Vifam couldn't put Underachivers in the ground by himself so you had to step in at the end of the day and be the straw that broke the camel's back. And now you're chainsawing on me which is totally dumb.

Actually, I'd rather see you lynched then Vifam at any rate. I have had a healthy suspicion for you since the end of D1.

Unvote; Vote: Majiffy

Call it OMGUS. Get told to go fuck yourself. Cry about it.

Let's dance.

This is REALLY fucking dumb

[Vifam]

Okay this is just getting stupid on all sides of the spectrum.

[Vifam]

Maj vs UN looks Town V Town
AP is wrong
MattP doesn't exist anymore
PirateMollie vs Un is town vs town


And just a bunch of other stupid stuff

[Vifam]

VOTE: ActionDan

[Vifam]

Moz's last post seems blatantly town

[Vifam]

Good lynches:
ActionDan
JacobSavage
ArcAngel
Majiffy???

Bork vs UN is probably town vs town too

[Vifam]

He's prob town

[Vifam]

At least fucking somebody with a brain sees it.

Jesus Christ

[Vifam]

Are you guys serious

[Vifam]

Vote ActionDan please

[Vifam]

ActionDan's play since D2 hit really doesn't ring as town and I don't want him to coast this game because he had stellar D1 play if he's scum.

Post #1544 is a bad post. The whole "I was gonna vote Zab" deal seems like he's just waiting for a wagon to hit, other than that there is really no reason to hesitate on voting him there. Everything else so far is just blanket statements and fluff.

[Vifam]

UberNinja really is an asshole

[Vifam]

How come UberNinja is allowed to be a huge cunt but I make a joke about a dead dog and I get reprimended

[Vifam]

Daniel Tosh is pretty funny

[Vifam]

Daniel Tosh's standup is pretty decent. His show is bad because he has to make up with new material every week and that is fucking hard, even Dave Chappele had trouble with it.


I'd settle on Zab. The fact that Dan reserved the chance to wagon is distressing though

[Vifam]

Yeah, he's a weaker read but I have him as town

[Vifam]

And if Zab flips town???

What then

[Vifam]

I'm still not 100% sure he's scum but if it came down to it I'd lynch him

But if he flips town, whats next? AP is basically guaranteeing us a scum lynch here and I'm skeptical

[Vifam]

Speak of the devil

[Vifam]

No one is perfect

[Vifam]

Also, anticlimactically, after skimming through Vifam's ISO, it becomes clear that I must have been imposing some sort of image of Ythan or cyberbob onto him.
He has actually been capitalizing shit for the whole game. He just routinely leaves off closing punctuation, which made me make the mental leap. Don't know why.

Anyway, carry on. My grammar tell on Vifam is a steaming pile of shit misrep, and I take it back.

This is a really stupid excuse

[Vifam]

AP can sense peoples mafia powerlevels

[Vifam]

What is my powerlevel AP

[Vifam]

It's not just her posts either. Om Nom gave me all sorts of bad feels before he ducked out.

Yeah I feel the same way

[Vifam]

Im promising a Zab scum flip? I hadn't even decided on my favorite pony yet. And how is what I have said any different than you saying "I am rarely wrong" to justify a Mastinero push? You are so scum its silly.

Lets pick a good weak lynch, pass it in a short amount of time,

get a scum flip

, and play D3 like we mean it?

[Vifam]

Seriously, stop. If you are town. Everyone. Take a step back. Go smoke some of Zab's ganja (and lynch the shit out of him too) or drink a beer or something.

This arguing is really antitown and as much as I'd love to have my dream lynch of mattp, we are getting nowhere with threatening to replace out and just escalating the argument.

Seriously, this was super town on town on town. Bork/Jiffy/UN are really really town. Im inclined to let Mollie and Vifam go along for the ride right now.

Lets pick a good weak lynch, pass it in a short amount of time, get a scum flip, and play D3 like we mean it?

/tryhard.

Yeah you did

[Vifam]

Actually I don't know if by smoking on Zab's ganja, you mean he's scum or you're just taking a shot at him for smoking weed or something

[Vifam]

And how is it different from you and Mastinero?

It's not, I'm not berating you over it.

[Vifam]

I was content when you said you would cry if Zab was scum

[Vifam]

P-edit: lol. I think you mean was town, but yeah

My bad

[Vifam]

BRB guys, cherrypicking IaI's ISO for scummy looking one liners so I can justify bussing him. Oops I mean voting him.

I don't think IAI ever used oneliniers in this game.

Anyway his walls seem town to me

[Vifam]

He's a lot weaker of a read though but I don't see anything bad about his questioning or overall thought process

[Vifam]

It shouldn't demoralize anyone, noone gives a shit about my opinion!

That's silly. I'm still listening to you. Granted my activity is making me a nonentity, but I am listening!

What are your thoughts on ArcAngel? Like, would you be willing to lynch her dead?

TL;DR:
ArcAngel is scum. Can we please lynch her?

First tell me.. what did i do that looked scum?
i get that i haven't been major talk here but lynching me is not going to help the town.. you will be down with more town and that's going to benefit mafia.

your reason to speak my name loud is pointless.. if you really want to lynch scum, look at the game and there are more people who look way to scummier than me..


Alright people... i know i haven't been much active, it was mainly becuz i have been working and had busy week and each time i come here.. i see 10 unread pages which scares me off a bit.. and i know that its not something that anyone can appreciate but i will try my best here... and i do my thing in my style.

@Mod, Please give us the new Vote tally...

On side this is just deflection


On the other I think the last thing she said is kind of town

This slot is dumb

[Vifam]

And by that I don't mean YOUR dumb

[Vifam]

I'm not scum for starters

[Vifam]

Vote: I Am Innocent

Matt, I'll give you this vote today if you give me Mhork's head tomorrow. AP, arguing with MattP is unnecessary unless you're going to make a major push on him today; please stop because all it's doing currently is clogging up the game unnecessarily. Mantis will be likely posting a real post soon, I am a bit busy now.

Who are you

[Vifam]

Introduce yourself just don't waltz into the game

[Vifam]

No one wants to wagon AD and it sucks

[Vifam]

Nigga it's late

[Vifam]

What the heck

[Vifam]

The last few pages are really shitty thanks to MattP way to go MattP

[Vifam]

Why the hell would MattP pull that as scum

[Vifam]

They're people in this game coasting HARD like ActionDan and no one seems to care

[Vifam]

"They're people"

I just mentioned ActionDan cuz he's the guy I'm voting + one of his posts today were scummy

[Vifam]

Why the hell would MattP pull that as scum

Because its MAtt. HE does bullshit gambits all the time as either alignment because he knows people expect him to do it.

Okay but how does this one make him scum instead of just dumb town

[Vifam]

I was gonna say the same thing but I wouldn't read it anyway

[Vifam]

Whatever, I didn't think MattP was scum before this and I don't now, it's gonna be pretty hard to convince me

[Vifam]

Because you said he did it both as scum and town and I wanted to see if you could back it up

[Vifam]

Maybe he's screaming scum because he's in the scum QT

[Vifam]

If JS is scum he's dispersing lynches without even posting

[Vifam]

dispersing wagons, ratherrrrr

[Vifam]

Yeah, that's why IAI's claim is so legit

[Vifam]

since when did fake claiming become the new "protown"

this is a question to everyone cos I seem to be behind the times

No one thinks what he did was protown ftr

[Vifam]

Being antitown doesn't necessarily mean you're scum

[Vifam]

Does anyone have moz as a town read?

*Raises hand*

[Vifam]

Alright

[Vifam]

What is a Jerome

[Vifam]

I'm actually gonna be pretty pissed off if I can't figure out what a Jerome is by the end of this game

[Vifam]

Jerome sounds like a pretty cool guy

[Vifam]

Wait why should we lynch MattP if you're talking about IAI

[Vifam]

Wait are you implying MattP and IAI are scum together

What the fuck that's close to impossible

[Vifam]

Why would MattP go to such lengths to bus a partner

[Vifam]

It's pretty fucking ridiculous tbh

[Vifam]

Yes, but its more ridiculous to assume that IaI/Matt are town.

IaI decided to out his PR (which is the strongest in the game) in a mere 17 minute span after a lurkaderp bullshitter claimed a GS on him? Who does that? Add in the fact that Matt had already faked a bs daycop on OotN and IaI isnt even REMOTELY suspicious?

He just claims cop? What if Matt was town and faking? What if Matt was scum and faking?

IaI is either seriously bad at this game, or is mafia

Well I guess he's just bad because it a MattP/IAI team makes no sense at all

[Vifam]

Why do you have ActionDan as such a high townread, MattP

[Vifam]

I think his D1 is okay for the most part too, but his recent posting is really terrible and at this point he's pretty much coasting on the game.

[Vifam]

Like, I think most of the big players in this game are town, except for maybe dreams of grandeur.

Then there is everyone else who only kind of snipes from the sidelines and never gets their hands dirty, I guarantee there is scum in there.

[Vifam]

I think his D1 is okay for the most part too, but his recent posting is really terrible and at this point he's pretty much coasting on the game.

That's not really any different from me though

He could just be, like I am, overwhelmed with RL considering it's a new semester

Your posting reeked of just town apathy at the start of D2 while ActionDan's was actually scummy

[Vifam]

Literally all your scumreads revolve around MattP, who is probably town.

[Vifam]

Why would MattP go to such lengths to bus a partner

It clears IAI, and then Mattp back tracked, which kinda clears him too. "Oh, its just Mattp being matt, another BS claim. He'd never do that as town etc".
I'm not ready to vote Mattp yet, but its plausible.

Yeah but this is REALLY fucking unnecessary if they're both scum. Like, they're gambits that are worth the risk and they're gambits that are all just flash and don't need to be done, this would be one of those gambits

[Vifam]

Because he does it as both alignments so it's null anyway

[Vifam]

AP would have better reads if he wasn't trying to connect everything to an unflipped player

[Vifam]

Yeah this is dumb

[Vifam]

No

[Vifam]

How many days do we have left in the bank

[Vifam]

Deadline / Bankable Time:

(expired on 2013-02-15 23:00:00)[/mech][/color]

Okay.

Lets try and make a compromise soon

[Vifam]

Vifam? You down for a mhork lynch? Let's wagon his ass, I'll take the rap if he flips town. And by take the rap, I mean say sorry and go about my business as if nothing happened.

I don't know man, I think the best compromise here would be lynch ArcAngel but some people don't want to do that

[Vifam]

I think everyone except for me is stupid

[Vifam]

No vifam, everyone is stupid, you're no exception.

Maybe

I guess we could wagon Mhork just for the sake of the deadline and finding middle ground, the bulk of the reason I kind of want to lynch ArcAngel is because I think Om was scummy before he replaced out for no real reason.

VOTE: Mhork

Lets just end this

[Vifam]

I hope it wasn't because I called him an idiot for thinking UberNinja actually had a dead dog

[Vifam]

Jeez

[Vifam]

Oh wait this role is confirmed by the mod

That's pretty cool

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

[Vifam]

VOTE: ArcAngel

[Vifam]

VOTE: LordMhork
Whatever.

lmao

[Vifam]

Investigate JS, actually

[Vifam]

He claimed Innocent Child but I guess we have to wait til Maestro comes up to confirm it's 100%

Either way even if he's scum he basically shot himself in the foot so lol if that's what is really going on

[Vifam]

Moza is probably town dude

[Vifam]

I feel like a Moza lynch is 10x dumber

[Vifam]

Yeah lets get this over with

[Vifam]

To be honest it's pretty suspect that you run across AA's no lynch the minute his wagon starts to build up

[Vifam]

Not that that's hard to sell

[Vifam]

We don't have time for all this shit

[Vifam]

Just lynch ArcAngel seriously

[Vifam]

I was joking

[Vifam]

Stop trying to rationalize what MattP did, it's a waste of time

[Vifam]

shut up

[Vifam]

Honestly I'm not seeing why there is so much opposition to just lynching ArcAngel

[Vifam]

How am I coasting?????

[Vifam]

I've actually been PRETTY involved in everything going on, just because I'm not making huge cases doesn't mean I'm not doing anything

[Vifam]

I honestly think ArcAngel has a better chance of flipping scum with the way Om was playing

[Vifam]

Is your only reason for your townread on ArcAngel the hammer?

[Vifam]

I'd like to see these reasons

[Vifam]

I still think ActionDan is the scummiest player here.

[Vifam]

JacobSavage could be scum but honestly


I'm not seeing why AA, who is just as bad, is getting a free ticket here, if you add in the fact that she replaced Om of the Nom who was already scummy in his own right, she should be worse.

[Vifam]

If someone could explain in detail WHY AA is a bad lynch maybe I'd change my mind

[Vifam]

vroom vroom

Can we come to some decision

[Vifam]

Just for the sake of the bank we can't keep up with this MattP claiming shit, if you think it's scummy then okay but you are literally wasting time if you're trying to rationalize it, which is literally what you guys have been doing for the last few pages whenever this is brought up.

[Vifam]

JacobSavage or ArcAngel I don't even care anymore, we just have to stop with this stupid circular discussions, you guys are fucking REPEATING yourselves, this day should have been over yesterday. Since he seems to have less controversy around him can we just lynch JacobSavage?

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Jacob

[Vifam]

I think JS has like, seven votes on him

[Vifam]

Uber is town

[Vifam]

finally

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Arc

[Vifam]

Alright, lets get this hammer.

Investigate JS tonight

[Vifam]

Yeah, it's happening

[Vifam]

If JS is town he's easy mislynch bait, atleast when he's confirmed town, mafia wont be able to push on him and dodge another lynch

[Vifam]

It will force mafia to lash out on some of the stronger players like me or you instead of just sitting on an easy wagon

[Vifam]

I guess your right, AP. Eh, I think MattP is town but I guess he's a good investigation with the suspicion on him

[Vifam]

Fuck that faggot shit

We need this day to end

[Vifam]

End it, Zab

[Vifam]

vifam stay strong
this is FORUM MAFIA
the first scum lynch is rarely easy

no hesitation, no fear

[Vifam]

Can you guys stop calling her dumb, it's really mean!!!!

[Vifam]

What AP said

We don't need to this day anymore. if she's town then woops, but this just DESPERATELY needs to end

[Vifam]

I'm on my knees, baby please

[Vifam]

WELP

She was cute at the very least

[Vifam]

Why would I want to hide it

[Vifam]

What the hell

[Vifam]

That wasn't even the funny type of outburst that was just weird

[Vifam]

You guys are fun to play with

[Vifam]

Damm Nacho picked up on my sarcasm

[Vifam]

If AA is scum I'd actually consider looking at UberNinja

[Vifam]

grrrrr

[Vifam]

This is an all star playerlist

[Vifam]

Everyone here is a b@ller

[Vifam]

Raise your hands if you're a b@ller

[Vifam]

SHOOTING HOOPS

[Vifam]

KNOCKING DOWN THREES

[Vifam]

I don't think anybody with dominate personality is scum at this point

[Vifam]

If they don't have charisma, they're probably scum

[Vifam]

I think I've got loads of charisma

[Vifam]

Vifam threw out a few jabs at AA9 early on, but ends up voting ActionDan and talking about him when asked about who the best vote is. Vifam also ends up swinging to the JS wagon near the ends and then right back onto AA when it gets more steam.

Also his defenses include such atrocities as "This wagon on me is bad and isn't going to fly" and "I do X as town AND scum".

P-edit:..... We are waiting for IaI to claim a result.

PPedit: Good. Wait, what? why are you so sure he is scum again.

The only reason I was swingy was because everyone was tiptoeing around the AA lynch and I didn't care because both JS and AA were good lynches. And it's not like I was 100% sure AA was scum, I just thought she was more of a likely candidate than JS because of Om

Is there ever gonna be a moment where you don't push on me for some dumb reason

[Vifam]

How was my response a handwave

[Vifam]

I just outright told you why you were wrong.

The only reason why I dropped the AD lynch was because I didn't feel like it was going anywhere and the day was getting extremely repetitive.

I preferred AA over JS because I had a scumread on Om but I had no problem with either dying at that point, I was just pretty much done with the day.

Explain to me why I would bus in that situation when at that point if I didn't force some type of compromise on THAT very day, JS would have ate the lynch?

And on a mafia PR too??????

[Vifam]

"Since he seems to have less controversy around him"

And then when PenguinAlien and Mollie voted AA I hopped back on because that meant you were going to vote, bringing ArcAngel to L-1 and finally bringing in a lynch

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By "less controversy" I meant less people were calling it a bad lynch compared to AA, and that's 100% true, AA had some real mixed opinions from what I could gather.

So even if AA had more votes I thought the JS wagon was just easier to push and more likely to get a lynch through, so making JS the top wagon at the time didn't seem like such a bad deal when the goal was really just to get a lynch through

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I remember a comment ArcAngel earlier that had something to do with Brok that might change my mind if I find it, but he's pretty town to me

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Based on my reads through 1-20 pages… I see Herobrine as possible scum, followed by Vifam or Brok (Yes one of them could be possible scum).

It was this

I really doubt she put EVERY townie on this list, I'm on the list, and so is Herobrine who has already flipped town

That kind of puts Brok at a weird spot for me but I don't think it really damages my read on him since AA didn't really seem to give a fuck when it came to faking reads

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Jesus Christ she had me typing brok too

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I mean yeah, it's possible.

Not completely sold though because I think she's capable of just fosing three seperate townies

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Yeah I had to bail out of her ISO quick or I was gonna throw up

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With the way town is stacked I would guess mafia has another role that blocks night actions

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Actually HB softclaimed D1 so I'm guessing he got jailed

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Yeah that's not the best plan

IAI should live for now though

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If he is town it's pretty weird that scum don't have another roleblocker on their team