New York 152 Niiightless Game Over!

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Someone's keeping secrets again. Root them out.

Living (16/16)

BBmolla
BK201
Blonde Doctor
crypto

Hiraki

inte
Major Minor
Matias
mb53
Mogri
Nobody Special
noraaa
Pine
redFF
Vifam
VitorMachado

Dead (0/16)

Spoiler: Rules

1 Votes must be bold to be counted.
2 Unvotes must also be bold but are not necessary before placing a new vote.
3 Each day will have a deadline of two weeks. If a majority is not reached by that time the player with the most votes will be lynched. In the event of a tie it will be the player who got there first.
4 I'll send out prods after 48 hours. After another 48 hours, or after a player's third prod, I'll start looking for a replacement.
5 Do not attempt to play the game under more than one name.
6 Do not bring outside influences into the game - this includes threats, bribes, wagers, promises, alliances, etc.
7 Do not talk outside the game thread except where allowed to do so by your role. Likewise, do not use bbcode to hide secret messages - this equates to discussion outside the thread.
8 Do not edit/delete posts.
9 Do not talk after you are dead or replaced, and by dead I mean hammered. I do allow contentless "Bah!" posts, but you should never reveal information once you are dead.
10 Play to win the game.

You are a

Vanilla Townie

. You win when only your faction remains.

Game Thread http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=21855

VOTE: Hiraki

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UNVOTE: redFF
VOTE: inte

Do better.

Matias, why?

huh why are people so flingy with their votes

anyways kids a genuine troll, at least from what i remember

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I'm a gut player

My gut is now telling me you're not going to be pleasant either

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I didn't say shit because the vote is moot
Nobody else here has shared my experiences with him and it only results in actions/reactions
Funny how these things work

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The actual vote means less than what happens because of the votes
If y'all think about it, it makes sense
Say, why are you being so defensive for him?

Pedit: lol

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Wow, Inte is incredibly annoying.

?

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unfortunately hiraki responded the same way he did in the other game i played with him, and i had a town read on him most of the game

apparently crypto is a corp and has an innocent of vifam

anyways UNVOTE: hiraki

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crypto your posts bother me

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who are your scum reads?

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Nobody else sees noraaa as suspicious? Did I join a game where people just don't vote their friends?

yeah. she didn't answer my question about why she was defending hiraki

@crypto people who change votes way too much bother me, you're probably going be stuck as a scumread most of the game because of it

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@crypto people who change votes way too much bother me

Why? I disagree.

false

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@crypto people who change votes way too much bother me, you're probably going be stuck as a scumread most of the game because of it

That is incredibly scummy of you.

saying it doesn't make it so

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@crypto people who change votes way too much bother me, you're probably going be stuck as a scumread most of the game because of it

That is incredibly scummy of you.

saying it doesn't make it so

What's so scummy about changing your vote often? Crypto doesn't seem panicked.

? makes me think they aren't being careful with their vote or don't care whos being voted as long as they are voting

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y'all weird

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I wasn't about to in depth explain it

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Someone's keeping secrets again. Root them out.

Living (16/16)

BBmolla
BK201
Blonde Doctor
crypto

Hiraki

inte
Major Minor
Matias
mb53
Mogri
Nobody Special
noraaa
Pine
redFF
Vifam
VitorMachado

Dead (0/16)

Spoiler: Rules

1 Votes must be bold to be counted.
2 Unvotes must also be bold but are not necessary before placing a new vote.
3 Each day will have a deadline of two weeks. If a majority is not reached by that time the player with the most votes will be lynched. In the event of a tie it will be the player who got there first.
4 I'll send out prods after 48 hours. After another 48 hours, or after a player's third prod, I'll start looking for a replacement.
5 Do not attempt to play the game under more than one name.
6 Do not bring outside influences into the game - this includes threats, bribes, wagers, promises, alliances, etc.
7 Do not talk outside the game thread except where allowed to do so by your role. Likewise, do not use bbcode to hide secret messages - this equates to discussion outside the thread.
8 Do not edit/delete posts.
9 Do not talk after you are dead or replaced, and by dead I mean hammered. I do allow contentless "Bah!" posts, but you should never reveal information once you are dead.
10 Play to win the game.

You are a

Vanilla Townie

. You win when only your faction remains.

Game Thread http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=21855

VOTE: Hiraki

huh why are people so flingy with their votes

iirc inte was obvscum lynched day 1 last game.

Might this be a pattern?

i'm pretty much "obvscum" in every game i play
its the way i roll

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y'all stupid for voting him because he's stupid

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Matias, what other specifics made redFF scummy?

Just what I said. He's taken early game seriously and he's trying to lynch mb for a mistake that a person of any alignment can make

red is smarter than this; this isn't stupidity on his part, he's obviously just trying to fit in

how is he trying to fit in if hes making a purposely stupid post?

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i just didn't feel like explaining something that prolly most people wouldnt agree with

i'm not just arbitrarily picking reasons to not like people

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overreactions everywhere

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Seriously: Why does inte have zero votes?

unvote

Vote: inte

see, this is what I'm talking about. when people vote too much it annoys the heck out of me

you have 16 posts, 4 of which are votes

I can't take your vote seriously when I think that you're going to move it again in 4 posts

i don't think its a scum-tell, but it hinders proper scumhunting when we don't know how serious someone is

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Watch this:
VOTE: Nobody Special

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Now:

VOTE: crypto

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Oh, I forgot

VOTE: Nobody Special

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I was proving a point.

The votes mean nothing if they aren't thoughtful, in which Nobody Special was just laying them down without reason

My vote is staying where it is for now

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Psyche is town
BBmolla is scummily tunneling. and his last posts have been unappealing
id like to get a Nobody Special wagon going eventually, but people dont see what i see

VOTE: BBmolla

step it up or get lynched

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@crypto people who change votes way too much bother me, you're probably going be stuck as a scumread most of the game because of it

That is incredibly scummy of you.

saying it doesn't make it so

What's so scummy about changing your vote often? Crypto doesn't seem panicked.

? makes me think they aren't being careful with their vote or don't care whos being voted as long as they are voting

Actually it's the opposite.

If they are being careful with their vote, they are more likely to be scum.
If they didn't care who was being voted, why would they change their vote?

Does anybody have meta on inte being dumb?

you act like sterotypes fit for every single player of the game
you CAREFULLY think about your votes, they make more of a difference than voting for reasons that change every second

if scum didn't care about who was being voted, but only wanted a lynch, why would they keep their vote on the same person?

street goes both way, noted ad hominem though

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Too many quotes to quote again, but UberNinja is right, I don't see anything in the post that isn't "angry" fluff

What happened to the BBmolla case?

What happened to the case against me?

Why do you seemingly not care who you want to lynch and just throw things out there like that?

Since BBmolla disappeared (again; needs future

more serious

wagon)

VOTE: Nobody Special

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this game has had the most personal attacks i've ever seen in one so far, and its only 18 pages in

tone it down a bit and actually try to start scumhunting thx

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I want to call inte town for the tone of his posts, but I feel like it's really easy for socially adroit players to cruise through games as mafia by manufacturing the sort of tone he's adopted, so I'm skeptical.

Inte

, I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but why did you vote me in 290?

i was trying to make a point to Nobody Special (and everyone else in the game i guess). i thought i was being fairly obvious about it. you were a random pick

apparently it flew over people's heads though

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apparently it flew over people's heads though

Yeah, "humor" that is in no way funny, ironic nor relevant tends to escape the target.

again, it flies over your head. why put humor in quotes? i didn't say it was supposed to be humorous, nor was it supposed to be entertaining
there was a point to be made, and it still stands. your uselessness seems to continue

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Can I take it from your post that you disagree with any NS votes, Psyche?

more importantly, why do you disagree with the NS votes?

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Nobody Specials last post was 4 pages ago

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i can't give you scum reads as accurately as i can give you town reads

scum:

Nobody Special
probably BBmolla's slot
Pine

town:

UberNinja
Psyche

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deadline is like today (thurs) at 7

ill hammer if nobody has done it so far

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deadline is like today (thurs) at 7

ill hammer if nobody has done it so far

Hammer away, one more vote to go.

forgot it was nightless, whoops

VOTE: redFF

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i could of sworn red was just playing how he was last game

remembering meta sucks

anyways VOTE: Nobody Special until i get some analysis done

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i can't think of any reason mogri would ask that question except as an attempt to town-tell right now tbh it's very out of the blue

ftr in ythan's last nightless game scum couldn't talked to each other, i remembered cause i read it and not your mother eight complained about not being able to talk to his teammates in postgame

also why are you writing off inte

ythan's nightless that i played, scum did have daytalk

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+1 for Nobody Special complaining that inte is totally voteless, but then asking everyone else who he should vote.

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there is no night kill
the deadline was one day later, so scum would of had 13 days to submit it

nobody special gives in to pressure

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huge scum tell alert

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Well, to me, "nightless" means that all night actions must be in to the mod prior to the day-ending lynch.

Therefore, it was possible that the lynch snuck up on mafia(s) early preventing them from killing.
This won't do any good, but:

@Mod: Does the mafia (however many there may be) have a factional night kill?

btw "instant night" and "nightless" are two different things

don't confuse people

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technowc pretty much hit the nail on the head
i pretty much tunnel if i try to lay down reasoning too hard
until i feel like my read is strong, i wont be able to find reasons to back it up how i feel

also, y'all (cept UberNinja and possibly crypto) dumb. go vote Nobody Special. kids obvi scum

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Kairyuu dropped an amish'd if you guys hadn't notice (twice he mentioned his predecessor actually), and I'd be voting him if NS wasn't being the way he is
Hiraki is pissing me off some , but its not indicative of alignment
noraa is town
UberNinja is town
petapan is barely thinking about his reads
Pine is coasting

anyone else has a lack of activity

go vote Nobody Special

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Kairyuu dropped an amish'd if you guys hadn't notice (twice he mentioned his predecessor actually), and I'd be voting him if NS wasn't being the way he is
Hiraki is pissing me off some , but its not indicative of alignment
noraa is town
UberNinja is town
petapan is barely thinking about his reads
Pine is coasting

anyone else has a lack of activity

go vote Nobody Special

Love how I have a lack of activity, when every third post is mine.

I think we need scumreads again.

Mogri
NS
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ok rather than lack of activity, unremarkable, meaning your posts haven't stood out to me at all so i forgot you

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zzzyisntinteded?

why are you even voting me

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man u guys are so silly~

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Explain what? "But whyyyy am I scum? You can't explain it!" That sounds a lot like "But that's not why you should be voting me!" Town generally don't do that, scum does it a lot.

"You're scum, but I can't prove it"

same difference

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sorry friends, had to take a short hiatus because of stuff. I'll be catching up pretty shortly as I believe I'm 10 or so pages behind

first of all, how did TeChNoWC get lynched, and why hasn't Nobody Special been lynched yet?

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Starting at page ~33 to refresh

obvious town NS.

i just fucking choked on my coffee

you're hilarious

Humor me.

Why is NS scum?

Hiraki is scumbuddies with NS, got it

Really not getting this.

As much as I'm still

very

on the line about NS.

Vote: Inte

Says the guy who's voting obvious town NS.

Alarm bells ringing.

Hiraki, wtf.

looks like he was on to something

Hiraki, how on earth can you think he's "obvious" town. I mean, seriously. One comment where he acts like I didn't answer his question and talks down to me, yup that totally makes him town. Again.. if he's town, he's shitty town.

If he's scum, Hiraki's scum too,

I betcha betcha. I say we get rid of the shitty player, see his flip, and decide where to go after that.

noraa for towny 2012

I am instinctively wary of Techno's assertion that NS scum = Hiraki scum. Using absolutes like that...it feels like a trap.

this is something scum would say to save their buddies. noted association

wait a second, this doesn't even fucking make sense. noraa called him out first on it, but Pine only called out TeChNoWC? pretty sure thats bullshit

if noraa = scum, pine = scum. i feel like im going to be biased against noraa because shes already in the town category for me, so pay attention for more shit like this

memes are low forms of humor btw guys

Post 910

okay i guess

can you literally only post snippy retorts that dodge the point, shut up god damn

This is the kind of airtight argument that has me on the chopping block, ladies and gentlemen.

Which point did I dodge? If you examine it closely, you'll notice that my "snippy retort" addressed the core problem with your argument.

i still don't see a mogri case. this shits gotta be scum motivated

someone in { BK201, Hiraki, crypto, Nobody Special, petapan } has to be scum

at this point crypto is pretty townie, even if he is a douche. id still like to see a mogri case

Post 946

@Kairyuu

quick question, can you link where the actual ad hominem is. yes, this is important

afk class

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noraa for towny 2012

there's a 99% chance that there are two scum teams. meaning that stuff is easy to fake.

I was referring to her line of thinking being basically the same as mine
That and plus she's the most transparent player here

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OK SO I'm down with lynching:

Nobody Special
Pine
Kairyuu

in that order
lets get to it

VOTE: Nobody Special

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why isn't hiraki on your list? it seems to me you thought he was scumbuddies with NS in this post

i'm willing to fogive hiraki if NS flips town

same thing with the pine/noraa shtick

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why isn't hiraki on your list? it seems to me you thought he was scumbuddies with NS in this post

i'm willing to fogive hiraki if NS flips town

same thing with the pine/noraa shtick

Um... this does not compute.

i don't want to explain, but the association only works one way in this case. hiraki has been vocally defending NS, but NS has been the one acting scummy

basically we get more information from a NS flip than hiraki

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but town doesn't defend scum

hence NS is the lynch, but

not necessarily

Hiraki needs to be lynched

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Can you flesh out your case on Kairyuu? You've only really mentioned this supposed amish tell (which I've heard mentioned over and over on the site but can't find in the wiki.) Also you don't seem to have responded to his reply about you mentioning that. I'd like to know if there is more to your particular case against him and if so/if not, what and why?

also good to see you posting more, gives me faith.

sowe i thought i linked it earlier:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2067031

BBmolla explains it better:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=150

i've seen it be legit 2/3 times, so i'm pretty faithful (even then the one time it didn't work, the guy only said he didn't like his predecessors playstyle, not even true criticism like saying h was being scummy)
and yes this is the only thing i've got on him, but i follow the logic

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hello, everyone please vote either mogri or nobody special; we are lynching them today and tomorrow.

Lining up lynches is scummy, just so you know.

Not in this sense.

It's bad when you say "X today, Y tomorrow"

Crypto doesn't care which one dies which day.

plus its nightless, the order doesn't matter as much

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hello, everyone please vote either mogri or nobody special; we are lynching them today and tomorrow.

Lining up lynches is scummy, just so you know.

Not in this sense.

It's bad when you say "X today, Y tomorrow"

Crypto doesn't care which one dies which day.

No, it's scummy either way.

Seriously what planet are you from.

Explain how.

I dare you.

That's honestly stating that he has two scumreads and would like both dead.

i think these (crypto's) kinds of statements aren't scummy as long as why he wants them lynched probably wouldn't be affected by each of them getting lynched


anyways gogo

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Alright fine. I'll play along.

It's scummy to say "both of these people need to be lynched" because of at least these reasons (there may be more):

1. It doesn't take into account what either of them will flip. If one of them flips scum, it may prove the other is town, or vice versa.
2. It backhandedly encourages people to subconsciously connect both players together, whether or not they are aligned with each other.
3. It allows lurking scum to "hide behind" both of the named players, and directs too much discussion to the pair, and away from others.

Now you please play along too. Explain why it's not a scumtell.

"Right fucking now."

1) its possible that either alignment wont matter
2) i don't
3) true, but scum can just sheep reads all game to the same effect

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there so much that bothers me about Kairyuu

like;

- most of his posts have been filler that doesn't really get a point across
- he obviously didn't read BBmollas explanation of the Amished tell quite well enough, the two stipulations are: they've never heard of the amished and its not part of their play style. he had to link 11 games to "disprove" the tell, rather than provide the 2 examples where it probably would of been sufficient enough to prove that it was part of his play. smells like overreaction to the fullest
- he didn't link to the posts with the ad hominem in them as i requested, but rather supplied sourceless quotes

yeah, VOTE: Kairyuu

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inte that was scummy as fuck, and "most of his posts have been filler that doesn't really get a point across"

ARE YOU. FUCKING. KIDDING. ME.




Pine- I can honestly see where you might see that about Blondie, but I saw.. myself, in my first game. Gung ho, with little experience logicking and mechanicking, and tunnelling strong on my first read (which was Hiraki.. two townies who spent pages bitching at each other for no good end). Blondie even said, when asked by myself, that they were super new to the game. So that should be, in my mind, sufficient enough to answer the "scum or newb" question. And then Kairyuu came in with all sorts of detailed, well-thought out cases. That won him a pretty decent town slot in my mind, which on occasion I second guess (what if he's just good at hiding his scumminess) because honestly I second guess EVERYTHING. (irl too, and it sucks)

all i see are WORDSWORDSWORDS, but when i don't finish the post with at least a main idea, i've been duped

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when you guys call someone out on reaction fishing, it fucks the purpose

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Like mogris confusion seems genuine guys
I'll read the walls later

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theres some SERIOUS traction to the Nobody Special wagon, and the mogri wagon doesn't impress me

forget mogri

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you know what? i don't particularly care about mogri, and i've already found out who the next lynch is going to be

VOTE: mogri

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VOTE: Psyche

cmon guys

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man how do you not know that your primary suspect replaced out five pages ago

vote: nobody special

for now

okay

VOTE: Nobody Special

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you fucking DICKS couldn't you have let me have my Kairyuu reply first.

vote crypto.

stop that

go vote nobody special

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you fucking DICKS couldn't you have let me have my Kairyuu reply first.

vote crypto.

stop that

go vote nobody special

I did that for three days, nobody cared a flying fuck.

i cared a flying fuck

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you fucking DICKS couldn't you have let me have my Kairyuu reply first.

vote crypto.

stop that

go vote nobody special

I did that for three days, nobody cared a flying fuck.

i cared a flying fuck

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nora, do you think i'm scum? if so, change your mind. if not, don't make counterproductive emotionally charged votes.

I don't like fast lynching or people trying to push others to lynch fast. I really wanted to see that interaction. And you orchestrated the blocking of it.

that said, I've literally been trying to lynch NS for three days. Everyone comes close then hops off at the end. I don't see the point atm.

the point is that there is some

obvious

scum friction on the wagon, and we need to analyze it

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inte, why psyche?

do you see this guys content? all empty promises, active lurking, etc.

i have no idea why i keep writing uberninja off as town.

cause he is town

sorry for the quad post, im a spammer

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i bought their first album when they signed with fueled by ramen

suckers

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inte, why psyche?

do you see this guys content? all empty promises, active lurking, etc.

sounds a lot like bk201, matias, and pine. what's the difference?

p-edit: they were one of my favorite bands before their new album.

Pine rubs off as smart

how about we just lynch them all though

we have 5/13 players who have contributed near nothing

gosh this just aint fun

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it is a pretty clear signal that you're scum if you get all blustery and pompous when someone attacks you. Attacking the person instead of their arguments, or simply soldiering on and letting your scumhunting do the talking, is the sign of weak scum.

hey, that's some neat armchair psychology there but

argumenta ad hominem

are fallacies, not scum tells. when someone makes an

ad hom

attack in a religious debate, it isn't because they're aligned with the mafia. there's no secret clause in the forum mafia bible that says scum must be incompetent/fallacious. if psyche is capable of attacking arguments instead of the people behind them then he will do so as both town and mafia – he won't get in trouble with the big man upstairs if he doesn't go out of his way to act like an idiot when he's mafia. if he is incapable of doing so then he isn't necessarily scum.

holy shit someone knows what ad hominem is

which btw Kairyuu still hasn't linked me to yet, yes its a scum tell

gogo Nobody Special

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swag hammer of justice!

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hows UberNinja get credit for saying there is a conspiracy to keep him alive?

i said that days ago

gogo

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yo wtf people ignoring me

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Possible. You have a very good point about the conspiracy to keep NS alive, though. No one seems to admit to thinking he's Town, but neither can any wagon on him seem to gain traction.

EXACTLY MY FUCKING POINT

WHAT THE FUCK

Pine looks slightly townier now

wrong, hes scummier. no vote = cognitive dissonance

i mean, unless you're scum buddies with him. then hats off

guys, whys mafia so easy

pedit: i was on the Nobody Special wagon before it was cool buddy

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bro, thats like a lot

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Psyche, crypto, maaayyybe Hiraki and maybemaybe petapan.

que

wat

quoi

무엇

što

что

what?

Nobody Special so next level i guess

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3 Each day will have a deadline of two weeks. If a majority is not reached by that time the player with the most votes will be lynched. In the event of a tie it will be the player who got there first.

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Unvote; Vote: noraaa

if an unvote is necessary

bro, no

Vote: Psyche

this is the way to go

VOTE: Psyche

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I vote noraaa....

noraaa posts 5 times in a row...

"I'm going to bed"
*doesn't go to bed*
*posts again*
etc.


Yeah, somebody's nervous.

no buddy, i do the same thing when i'm frustrated

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You and I certainly have different methods of interpretation.

Why the defense of noraaa?

cause it aint a scumtell, at least for me

it certaintly doesn't look like shes flailing, just attempting to articulate her thoughts

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So why aren't you voting Pine instead of Uber? Or Hiraki? Or Inte?

I don't see any reason to.

Your answers are positively MIND-BOTTLING

yeah, real posts are a diamond dozen

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Also, where the hell is everyone?

pretty sure they're dead

uberninja you're starting to worry me

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those kinds of posts are redundant and are blatant fencesitting

"I could" -> subject to change

Pine is still viable, but I want to get my feelers out first

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Yup! And blatant fencesitting is totally town behavior, right? RIGHT?

I'm interested as to why you don't like my attack on noraaa, but completely skip over his non-committal "yeah, I could see that" post.

Sounds like a setup to me, to bus the hell out of noraaa if it becomes convenient.

bro lets not play that we've mislynched 3 times in a row and im trying to reevaluate

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These voteless accusations worry me

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Inte, tell me how your attitude in 1422 isn't contradictory to your attitude in the beginning of the game being against people "throwing votes around".

bro, rather than analysis, it looks like they're attacking their character without actually placing a vote, which worries me

its different cause its thought out (even if its scummy of them)

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I haven't read anything since my last post but I feel like it's coming up on two days so I should let you guys know I'll check things tonight or tomorrow.

Life got busy.

SAMESIES

going camping over the weekend v/la

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ok Pine is officially an asshole

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ok well im back

psyche still sucks and pine is still a dick

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@D3f3nd3r

mind picking up an avatar?

i'm worried about Pine hes pretty good at this game from what i've seen

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just to re-iterate what noraaa said, meta is pretty poop when it comes to certainty about someones play

take me for example, in the 7 or so games i've played on the site i'm pretty sure theres nothing solidly meta about my play other than i don't like to capitalize

i realize how much anecdotal evidence is relevant tho

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hes referring to Pine's tell

UNVOTE:

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two questions before i go through with this

noraa why aren't you on the psyche wagon?

uberninja why aren't you on the psyche wagon?

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uber is like 14

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VOTE: BK201

lynch

lets go get Pine or Psyche next, one of them is bound to be scum

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I dont know who's more scum. The people who stayed on Psyche or the people who went to BK at the last second

Someone help me out here

well, the blunder that is Post 1681 makes it really hard to pass up a hammer of justice opportunity

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Pine, why vote UberNinja, and not Psyche?

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man these votes are all over the place, i can't fucking tell who is suspicious of whom anymore

fuck it VOTE: Psyche

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man these votes are all over the place, i can't fucking tell who is suspicious of whom anymore

fuck it VOTE: Psyche

Could you explain your independent reasons for this vote.

from where i'm standing you're more likely than Pine to be scum and i'm almost sure that one of you is

so za

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Psyche, I could be mistaken, but I thought your meta argument was for Pine. How did you apply it to BK201 also?

That's just bad statistics

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goddamnit hiraki

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i have to prod dodge and shit, finals week

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you cocklickers holy shit i have finals and cant read slow down

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Another prod dodge. Last final today and then move back home tomorrow :3

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IM BACK

starting to read again

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Post 1837 - ok bro there were like 600 posts and shit dicks of empty promises that weren't followed through

you're telling me i can't change my read when someone turns scummy?

at this point i'd be down to lynch d3f3nd3r cause i hated kariyuu's play

i've noticed that there's always two basically competing counterwagons for each lynch. some real wagon analysis is in order

hows psyche not been lynched by the time at [post=1876]/[post] fucking sense of self-preservation is a huge scumtell

okay after that i skimmed

red flip. pretty swaggin so that leaves like 1 blue and 2 red right

@UberNinja

why would you assume that there are more (now confirmed) red than blue? In a nightless (with only goon/VT flips so far) it would seem more logical to have even amount

pedit: @Pine bro i was getting bad vibes from Kariyuu the whole fucking time, y'all just didn't let me hammer of justice the punk

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okay i've realized that i've basically seen a disappearing act from noraa and matias has still done nothing

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Pine is town

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Still waiting to hear why you think the teams wouldn't be the same size.

Got privileged information hmmm?

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okay

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like UberNinja was such a solid town read

i feel like Pine is a solid read too

:/

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yeah that seems like a bold AtE

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Peta did the right thing in quickl lynching me

Did wonders to make a gap between the connection between me and him

Also, why nom PETA when BBmolla fucking crusaded 7 mislynches in a row in ythans 4:8 night less. Best play I've seen

It really sucks that it was lost in the crash

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@BK

Post 1681

you did aight in the beginning, but your activity started to flake around post ~1000 and with this post you basically tied a noose around your neck

that being said, i hate when people who bus right out of the gate, its so easy to catch imo

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i thought it was sorta average