Mafia 105 - Caught in the Crossfire (Game Over)

Hoopla · Post Post #29 (isolation #0) » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:01 pm

hello everyone.

Hoopla · Post Post #31 (isolation #1) » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:55 pm

Vi wrote:Confirming that I need to go over that ruleset with you after the game.

...and that I got my role.

8. Finally, you will be considered inactive if you do not place a vote on a player, no matter how many posts you make, within the first 5 days of the start of any game day.

Good luck in lylo!

Hoopla · Post Post #56 (isolation #2) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:45 am

Vote: VI

, I guess.

Hoopla · Post Post #91 (isolation #3) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:45 pm

Are we bandwagoning sigma? Okay.

Unvote, vote: sigma

Hoopla · Post Post #93 (isolation #4) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:59 pm

Why are you opposed to bandwagoning?

Hoopla · Post Post #98 (isolation #5) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:33 pm

Ray, if I gave you 5 Hoopla Fun Dollars (HF$) to bet on today's lynch, with return odds of 25/1 for everyone. Who would you bet on?

Hoopla · Post Post #100 (isolation #6) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:44 pm

Vote Count, Day 1

hiphop ( 1 ) sigma
Budja ( 0 )
charter ( 0 )
ConfidAnon ( 1 ) crypto
crypto ( 1 )
CSL ( 0 )
elvis_knits ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 2 ) popsofctown - Energetic Penguin
Idiotking ( 0 )
imaginality ( 1 ) ConfidAnon
Infinis ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 2 ) CSL - RayFrost
Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) RayFrost
Psychologic ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
roflcopter ( 2 ) hitogoroshi - maemuki
sigma ( 5 ) Sotty7 - infinis - Vi - RedCoyote - Hoopla
Sotty7 ( 1 ) roflcopter
SpyreX ( 1 ) Pads
Vi ( 2 ) Hoopla - elvis_knits

With 25 alive, 13 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 1st, 11am EST

RayFrost wrote:
Hoopla wrote:Ray, if I gave you 5 Hoopla Fun Dollars (HF$) to bet on today's lynch, with return odds of 25/1 for everyone. Who would you bet on?
Can I do a three pick for slightly decreased return odds?

You can spread your money over three different candidates if you wish. Seems like a more conservative approach though.

Hoopla · Post Post #104 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:53 pm

RayFrost wrote:Actually, screw it.

HF$ 5.00 on sigma dying.

All or nothing, baby!!!

Why aren't you voting sigma?

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Mod: Can we get a list of 'not voting' in the counts?

Hoopla · Post Post #106 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:07 pm

RayFrost wrote:
Hoopla wrote:
Why aren't you voting sigma?
I don't see sigma as all that scummy

But you think he's scummy enough to be Day 1's lynch?

Hoopla · Post Post #111 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:27 pm

RayFrost wrote: I'm guessing from the number of vote on him that he is.

You've played enough games to know how quickly things can fluctuate. Based on the reasons given so far for his wagon, do you really think you'd be unable to prevent his lynch?

Hoopla · Post Post #115 (isolation #10) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:06 pm

RayFrost wrote:
I doubt he'll live through the day.

What's that supposed to mean?

Hoopla · Post Post #122 (isolation #11) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:56 pm

Vi wrote: @Hoopla 91: If we
weren't
wagoning sigma, what would you be doing with your vote right now?
Also, people need to stop complaining about your avatar.

I'd be putting it on the next highest vote-getter (not including me). Or maybe Ray.

Hoopla · Post Post #131 (isolation #12) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:21 pm

Vi and Spyrex really need to get a room.

Hoopla · Post Post #136 (isolation #13) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:41 pm

Vi wrote: Hoopla, what is your take on SpyreX?

Let me ask him a question first.

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Spyrex, you've posted a couple of times about white noise, while being pretty noisy yourself. Do you have any reads either way on anyone yet?

You should drop a vote somewhere.

Hoopla · Post Post #140 (isolation #14) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:25 pm

SpyreX wrote: I love the quick jump to NOISE considering of the whole 7 posts I have what ones are true noise? My confirm? My random silliness to start things off?

My others posts while still joking around ARE saying things. If that bit of joking is too much noise to see what I'm saying well... it looks like the mood is getting somber enough that it'll go away anywho.

REAL BOY reads? No. Although, recent events sure have given me something to dance with.

Vote: Budja

Probably the last three, although you're right, it isn't as bad as I made it out to be. I'm still going to vote you anyway.

Unvote, vote: SpyreX

Hoopla · Post Post #150 (isolation #15) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:26 am

Vote Count, Day 1

hiphop ( 1 ) sigma
Budja ( 1 ) SpyreX
charter ( 0 )
ConfidAnon ( 1 ) crypto
crypto ( 0 )
CSL ( 0 )
elvis_knits ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 2 ) popsofctown - Energetic Penguin
Idiotking ( 0 )
imaginality ( 1 ) ConfidAnon
Infinis ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 2 ) CSL - RayFrost
Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) - charter
Psychologic ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
roflcopter ( 2 ) hitogoroshi - maemuki
sigma ( 4 ) Sotty7 - infinis - RedCoyote - Hoopla
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 7 ) Pads - Vi - RayFrost - Budja - hiphop - Hoopla - roflcopter
Vi ( 2 ) Hoopla - elvis_knits

With 25 alive, 13 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 1st, 11am EST

Maemuki wrote:Ugh. Does that mean I'll have to read one of SpyreX's games so I can see what's the difference between his play now and his usual-town/usual-scum play?

Niice.
*rolls eyes*

See you in a few hours then, unless you want to explain what the differences are, Vi/hiphop/Budja/etc, etc.

Just go for the bus now, rather than later. It'll look better for you.

Hoopla · Post Post #181 (isolation #16) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:02 am

Mod: Can we please get an unvoting list? It makes it easier for you to track names also (I'm voting 3 people).

Hoopla · Post Post #312 (isolation #17) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:26 pm

I hope 5 pages don't get added every time I have a nap. I'm going to feel like I'm constantly behind.

Hoopla · Post Post #326 (isolation #18) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:06 am

Are we wagoning ConfidAnon now? Okay, it looks better than the SpyreX one - sorry Vi.

Unvote, Vote: ConfidAnon

Hoopla · Post Post #327 (isolation #19) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:16 am

Wow, I wish I had another vote to put on crypto. So much BAD POSTING on page 11; pithy one-liners, waiting for people to ask him questions about his votes, and when they do it's merely a 'hunch'. This goes along with his answering questions with questions and being generally useless and a waste of space.

My

hunch is that crypto is scum.

Hoopla · Post Post #329 (isolation #20) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:23 am

crypto wrote:
Maemuki wrote:
crypto wrote:
Maemuki wrote:Why?
A hunch?
What activated that hunch?
Why are you so eager to fend me off?

crypto wrote:What if I refused to tell you what "activated" it?

crypto wrote:Because I think you're scum. Thinking you're scum ≠ wanting to lynch you.

Okay, screw bandwagons. This is so much better.

Unvote, vote: crypto

Hoopla · Post Post #336 (isolation #21) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:39 am

It's hard being 10 pages back, trying to use less than 500 words to catch up. Unless the the back and forth posting between a few people slows, it's tough to realistically keep that restriction.

Hoopla · Post Post #370 (isolation #22) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:58 am

ConfidAnon, crypto or SpyreX need to be lynched by page 25. If day 1 goes any longer than that, I think I'm going to cry.

Hoopla · Post Post #414 (isolation #23) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:49 pm

Hoopla wrote:ConfidAnon, crypto or SpyreX need to be lynched by page 25. If day 1 goes any longer than that, I think I'm going to cry.

To elaborate on this point yesterday, I'd much rather have a little less information by pushing out an earlier than usual lynch, if it means D1 will become easier to analyse. Games with 40+ page D1's tend to require another 20 just to sift through it all, and a lot of people won't read the thread in that situation, resorting to the out of context, watered down tactic of iso-reading. More information is better is not always true, when towns aren't capable of analysing it properly.

Having said that, this seems to be partially solved by a day kill. Lets start up a new wagon on crypto please.

Hoopla · Post Post #417 (isolation #24) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:15 pm

Idiotking's rolefishing seems too blatant to actually be able to possibly work. His other posts pique my interest many times more - he has a fake air about everything he says. I won't accuse him of lurking/active lurking yet as it's early, and he said he wasn't available to Sunday, but the fact he accused hiphop of active lurking is a little odd.

Note the tentative language used by Idiotking (in green);

Excuses, outs, and general fakeness in blue;

Idiotking wrote:
Sigh. Finished rereading. You people are evil, I hate you
all
, do you hear me?

Hiphop
bothers
me.
Something about his posts
(they're mostly one-line and have very little substance) makes me think he's just trying to float by without actually doing anything substantial. For example, his last two posts are more concerned with chiding people for word count rather than doing something useful.
It just seems
like active lurking to me,
even though the game's only been going for this long.

I don't think Crypto is suspicious either, given my knowledge of his play style. He does tend to make a whole lot of pretty meaningless posts, though when he does make a meaningful one it is substantial.

I don't know
about either ConfidAnon for SpyreX.
I just... I can't get a read on either of them
.
Then again, I do tend to have difficulty seeing scumminess on rereads
, so maybe I'll be able to get a picture of them now that I'm available to post.

Idiotking wrote:Hiphop is active lurking.

I can't decide
if that's scummy enough to warrant a vote, though;
it's possible
that he's got a perfectly towny reason to lay low, though
I don't know
exactly what it could be.

His first paragraph describing hiphop's play is the most suspect, when you consider how many words he uses to articulate a very simple point. It's the definition of filler.

If I can't get votes on crypto, I'm swapping to Idiotking.

Hoopla · Post Post #424 (isolation #25) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:54 pm

Idiotking wrote:@Hoopla:

To hell with concision. I'm a wordy person. Get used to it.

And feel free to check my meta. I'm using the same phrases I've always used, and since your main problem with my posts seem to be my word choice, there's little I can say in my defense.

Why haven't you put a vote down on anyone in 17 pages?

Hoopla · Post Post #430 (isolation #26) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:03 pm

Unvote, Vote: Idiotking

Hoopla · Post Post #442 (isolation #27) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:40 pm

Ray --->

<---Idiotking

Seriously, I don't think anyone else other than you two is going to bother reading your arguments. Ray, make a concise, clear analysis in your next post or don't bother. Idiotking, stop fueling him.

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Idiotking, I flicked through a couple of your town games, and I understand your use of language. It weakens my case slightly, but you don't have any completed scum games to compare this to. I'm always hesitant to release a case when someone brings up their own meta though - anyone who is aware how they act as town is also capable of manipulating it.

I did notice your voting pattern too, while I was there. Throughout those games, you random voted 5 out of 6 times, and in the only large game your fourth post of the game was this;

Idiotking wrote:
Vote zwet

For reasons previously listed by others.

Which is funny when you consider how adamently you pointed out Ray's piggybacking.

Hoopla · Post Post #445 (isolation #28) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:57 pm

Idiotking wrote: And as a note on why I don't have any completed scum games, there's a very simple answer for this. Every single time I've gotten a mafia role, I've replaced out. I would rather actually
win
a game as town before I seriously try my hand as scum, so I've always replaced out to give the scum team a chance.

That's really bad. Being mafia is part of the game - you should NEVER replace out because you got a role you don't like.

Hoopla · Post Post #449 (isolation #29) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:19 pm

Idiotking wrote: It's not so much that I don't like getting scum (I kinda enjoy being scum on another site I frequent). It's the fact that I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I don't know how to be scum on this site. It's more for the sake of the scumteam than anything else. I join a game, play for a few days, and freeze. I can't think of what to do, so I do nothing. And when that happens, I can only replace out. Hell, it's not even that I haven't tried. It's that I never succeed in overcoming that freeze.

No. It's REALLY bad for so many different reasons.

1) Replacements are hard enough to find as it, without people leaving for role related reasons.
2) If you ever replace out in the future for genuine reasons it could incriminate your replacement, and cause wifom guess games about why you left which detracts from scumhunting.
3) You learn from your mistakes. You're never going to improve if you don't play the game.

You have no excuses for pussying out and making the game less fun for people.

Hoopla · Post Post #627 (isolation #30) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:48 am

Vi wrote: I would leave people like IK and CSL for the Vig/other scumgroup/etc. tbh.

What? Why? If they're scummy enough, they ought to be lynched. I like sigma's post about CSL, and will encourage that wagon if IdiotKing's doesn't work out for me.

Why would another scum group target these players?

Hoopla · Post Post #632 (isolation #31) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:22 am

Vi wrote:
Hoopla 627 wrote:Why would another scum group target these players?
If they're THAT scummy, it's a crosskill. A bit risky, but etc.

I don't read people who are usually lynched D1 very well, and thus don't bother with them because everyone
else
wants them dead for reasons that practically make themselves - regardless of whether they're actually scum or not. I agree that they shouldn't live to the late game mostly because I don't trust them to make good use of their votes if Town, but I would prefer that they were sniped by the Vig while we attempt to more reliably find scum during the Day. Like what I'm doing with RedCoyote, a wagon I would very much like to get started.

Plus, again, easy wagon.

No, if they're THAT scummy, we should be lynching them - easy lynch or not. In large games, I kind of like tidying up with policy lynches on D1. Players like CSL, crypto, Infinis, Idiotking and Energetic Penguin are good candidates and I doubt will be hot nightkill choices - there's a chance the town doesn't have a vig.

Lynching someone like Idiotking is a bonus, because he's actually scummy as well.

Hoopla · Post Post #634 (isolation #32) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:39 am

Vi wrote:
Hoopla 632 wrote:Players like CSL, crypto, Infinis, Idiotking and Energetic Penguin
Why is crypto on this list?

Why do you think he wouldn't be?

Hoopla · Post Post #636 (isolation #33) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:43 am

Vi wrote:
Hoopla 634 wrote:
Vi wrote:
Hoopla 632 wrote:Players like CSL, crypto, Infinis, Idiotking and Energetic Penguin
Why is crypto on this list?
Why do you think he wouldn't be?
Regardless of how scummy you think he is, I don't think he qualifies as a village idiot or policy lynch.

Why are you so eager to defend crypto?

Hoopla · Post Post #647 (isolation #34) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:54 am

Whoever hasn't got a vote on anyone, needs to do so in their next post. There's no excuse for not having one down at the moment.

Hoopla · Post Post #650 (isolation #35) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:58 am

Vote Count, Day 1

hiphop ( 0 )
Budja ( 1 ) SpyreX
charter ( 0 )
crypto ( 1 ) - Hoopla
CSL ( 3 ) - RedCoyote sigma - Pads
elvis_knits ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 4 ) hitogoroshi - popsofctown - hiphop - imaginality
hitogoroshi ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 0 )
Idiotking ( 2 ) - elvis_knits crypto
imaginality ( 0 )
Infinis ( 3 ) roflcopter - charter - RayFrost
EtherealCookie ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 1 ) - Infinis
Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 0 )
Psychologic ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 1 ) Vi
roflcopter ( 0 )
sigma ( 1 ) - sotty7
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 1 ) - Budja
Vi ( 0 )
Unvote ( 6 ) - Idiotking - EtherealCookie - Psychologic - Maemuki - CSL - Energetic Penguin
Total Votes ( 24 )

With 24 alive, 13 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 1st, 11am EST

unvote, vote: crypto

Hoopla · Post Post #659 (isolation #36) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:58 am

sigma wrote:Explain your crypto votes please. All of you who are voting Crypto for assuming that there are two scum groups should explain why they're not voting vi for assuming that there are two scum groups. (I don't think either is a scum tell, the flavor obviously implies two scum groups, even if it's not a certainty.)

He was stating it as a fact, in an attempt to discredit charter's post. I think because he actually used it as a rebuttal, it seems more like a genuine scumslip.

Hoopla · Post Post #775 (isolation #37) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:07 pm

Vote Count, Day 1

hiphop ( 0 )
Budja ( 1 ) - SpyreX
charter ( 0 )
crypto ( 4 ) - Hoopla - Energetic Penguin charter - CSL
CSL ( 8 ) - RedCoyote - sigma - Pads - idiotking - crypto - popsofctown - roflcopter - Infinis
elvis_knits ( 1 ) - Vi
Energetic Penguin ( 3 ) - hitogoroshi - hiphop - imaginality
hitogoroshi ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 0 )
Idiotking ( 0 )
imaginality ( 0 )
Infinis ( 1 ) - RayFrost
EtherealCookie ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 0 )
Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 0 )
Psychologic ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
roflcopter ( 0 )
sigma ( 1 ) - sotty7
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 1 ) - Budja
Vi ( 0 )
Unvote ( 4 ) - EtherealCookie - Psychologic - Maemuki - idiotking
Total Votes ( 24 )

With 24 alive, 13 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 1st, 11am EST

Vi wrote: *Hoopla (not at all seeing the Hoopla-obv-Town, definitely seeing the Hoopla-obv-wagoning - plus that blatant misrepresentation of me apparently defending crypto was
really
telling)

My crypto parody obviously went unappreciated. I'll spell it out to at least appease this one point.

Me (awesome):

Hoopla wrote:
Vi wrote:
Hoopla 634 wrote:
Vi wrote:
Hoopla 632 wrote:Players like CSL, crypto, Infinis, Idiotking and Energetic Penguin
Why is crypto on this list?
Why do you think he wouldn't be?
Regardless of how scummy you think he is, I don't think he qualifies as a village idiot or policy lynch.
Why are you so eager to defend crypto?

crypto:

crypto wrote:
SpyreX wrote:
My ConfidAnon vote was random. I think Maemuki is more scummy.
Que? Sure you didn't get the names mixed up there?
I don't think so ...

Maemuki wrote:Why?
A hunch?

crypto wrote:
Maemuki wrote: What activated that hunch?
Why are you so eager to fend me off?

crypto wrote:What if I refused to tell you what "activated" it?

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And so on.

Hoopla · Post Post #776 (isolation #38) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:14 pm

CSL wrote:
Hoopla wrote:Whoever hasn't got a vote on anyone, needs to do so in their next post. There's no excuse for not having one down at the moment.
Then I'll just throw
Vote: crypto
in there then.

Do you have a reason, mate?

Hoopla · Post Post #777 (isolation #39) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:15 pm

Hoopla wrote:
CSL wrote:
Hoopla wrote:Whoever hasn't got a vote on anyone, needs to do so in their next post. There's no excuse for not having one down at the moment.
Then I'll just throw
Vote: crypto
in there then.
Do you have a reason, mate?

Never mind, I just noted CSL is being replaced.

Hoopla · Post Post #778 (isolation #40) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:49 pm

Sorry for the multiple posting, but this issue really needs to be addressed and taken seriously:

crypto - 101
Vi - 79
RayFrost - 60
popsofctown - 49
Maemuki - 47
roflcopter - 41
Hoopla - 37
SpyreX - 36

CSL - 36

charter - 29
Idiotking - 28
elvis_knits - 25
hitogoroshi - 20
sigma - 18

Energetic Penguin - 10
hiphop - 10
Budja - 9
Infinis - 9
Pads - 9
Sotty7 - 9
imaginality - 8
RedCoyote - 7
EtherialCookie/Juls - 6
Psychologic - 2

crypto, Vi and at times Ray, your posting is seriously a joke. There is no need to post that much. Most people will only skim what you have to say, which makes finding genuine content difficult to spot. The amount of insightful, memorable posts you've made collectively, I can count on two hands.

Not only is it a bitch to read, it also forces half the town into submission, a perpetual state of feeling behind. The people I've highlighted in red have already been replaced, or seriously risk being replaced because of your play.

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This is one of the main reasons why I wanted a shorter Day 1. It prevents this type of bullshit that is going to be ridiculously annoying to process on Day 2. We need to lower the town numbers soon, rather than just waffling. 25 pages was my cap, but by the way we're going, it'll be more like 45. THIS ISN'T GOOD FOR THE TOWN.

Vi, stop chasing targets that have no realistic chance of getting lynched. You seem to be hung up on not going for easy targets, but the reason they're easy targets is because they're scummy! Scummy players deserve to be lynched. Try it, you'll like it.

Hoopla · Post Post #795 (isolation #41) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:12 pm

Idiotking wrote:And that's what annoys me. There's always this nagging possibility that CSL was a moron, but a townie one. I just feel icky not giving another player a chance.

It's better if we don't have to find someone new, wait for them to catch up, make a post, argue with them. CSL was scummy enough to be lynched - the replacement gaff is just a nice little bonus. The only thing that sucks about the situation is not getting a claim, but I doubt CSL would have replaced out if he was something awesome like a vigilante.

I'm willing to compromise.

Unvote, vote: CSL

Hoopla · Post Post #799 (isolation #42) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:55 pm

imaginality wrote:I think that puts us into the 24 hour zone of impending lynchiness.

Does another vote on the CSL wagon count for anything much now?

Probably not, he looks pretty much strung up - I don't see the majority vote changing in the next 24 hours (even in a game this fast). But no harm in helping y'all kick the stool from under his feet.

Unvote,
Vote: CSL

More like, no harm in making sure you're on the wagon when he flips, right?

Hoopla · Post Post #890 (isolation #43) » Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:59 pm

Pads wrote: I like new Budja. Both he and Hoopla fail for attacking the 'lurkers' with nine posts after five days, but I say town for both of them.

I think you misinterpreted my post - I was attacking the players at the top of the tree for whoring so much and forcing half the town behind.

Hoopla · Post Post #898 (isolation #44) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:33 am

bah teehee

Hoopla · Post Post #2058 (isolation #45) » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:47 pm

I can't believe we lost this! We were doing so well. But I suppose pops and hiphop played well at the end (I kind of zoned out in the middle) - their night kills were sensible.

I'm dazzled by the plurality rule and probably wouldn't play it again - it's unnecessary, and seems to add complexity just for the sake of it. A couple of months ago, I asked you about the benfits of plurality voting, which you said you couldn't go into detail about due to this game being run by it. I kind of want to know about those reasons, because I think later on that page Ectomancer hits the nail on the head;

Ectomancer wrote:
zoraster wrote:When I don't have a game currently running using it, I'll go more into the advantages (and disadvantages, which are significant but not the one SensFran has brought up) of it. I'm not sure it's fair to go into it right now as it's too specifically applicable to a game rather than merely general theory.
If it is standard you should be able to discuss the mechanic regardless of whether a game is running or not. Your statement illustrates that even you don't believe it to be standard or common.

Hoopla · Post Post #2071 (isolation #46) » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:32 pm

Oops, Zoraster. When I was talking about plurality lynching, I was incorporating the lynch+24 aspect into it as well, which is where most of the complexity and my criticism lies.

Lynch+24 doesn't make sense to me - once a decision to lynch someone is decided, you don't need an extra 24 hours for players to decide again who to lynch. It also makes it unfair if you miss this 24 hour window because of whatever reasons. Scrambling for deadlines by towns are the worst, but having to wait out a scrambling period every lynch without choice seems very unnecessary, and alters tactics in ways that don't seem normal to me.