This is Page 78, and D1 promises to be a nightmare of a reread, so if anyone could give a brief summary of what's going on now ITT I'd be more than grateful!
Is that like "goBenmage 1838 wrote:BYAHH Go Vi!
Is that like "goBenmage 1838 wrote:BYAHH Go Vi!
I second this.SpyreX wrote:In one spot without 4 million quotes and/or blaze blah I'd love to see this developing case on BM.
I suppose this would be a bad time for me to say that I have a Town read on Battle Mage?GIEFF 1904 wrote:Vi, if BM is scum, do you think that we would be justified in assuming that you are scum too, based on his behavior toward bcc yesterday and today? i.e. making excuses for his lurking, and asking people to vote for BM instead of for bcc?
alex, remember what I said about playstyle a while ago?alexhans 1912 wrote:So you're excusing BM's overall inconsistent play because he sucked the whole game or something? Why do we keep allowing people to do this kind of stuff and excuse their scumminess because it's their playstyle??
Nice blameshifting.Zach 1913 wrote:Any particular reason you're fixated on this? Why not in Battle Mage's unwillingness to explain why he thought BCC/You were town? Why not in Sensfan's hammer?
Realize that Battle Mage is only the flavor of the week. I'm also writing off GIEFF's scummy play (for some reason), alex's scummy play, and SpyreX's scummy play.Zach 1916 wrote:And yes, you were town. That doesn't mean you're town here. So why should I believe that your attacks on me are town motivated in this game? Especially when you write off Battle Mage's scummy play, and fire off accusations at me so similar to Grim Mafia, it's like you haven't learned from your mistakes there.
Zach 1125 wrote:Wow, I think I just choked on that WIFOM.
Zach 1149 wrote:He's already named me as scum. (Without a vote.)
The last one should be contrasted withZach 1163 wrote:Let's just lynch Benmage and move on. He's doing nothing for the town. It's ridiculous.
So Zach, you're washing your hands of the Cephrir wagon because you say it would have gone on without you. Had you not taken action here, would the Benmage wagon have gone on without you?Zach 1183 wrote:There isn't any time limit on this. If you need time to think it over, then take some time to calm down and think about it.
unvote:
But youjammer 1100 wrote:I'm notnecessarilylurking, ok.
I only see Battle Mage voting Mastin once during D1, in post 71. Mastin was lynched in post 1078. Am I missing something?alex #73 wrote:You're so full of it BM... Your whole move to clear yourself from Mastin's lynch is really clear... You "suspected" him and waggoned him but when it was certain he was getting lynched you came out to say he was town??? come on...
1) I'm starting to believe that being glad to be alive is a VI-tell.alex #76 wrote:1) I told you as soon as I could that you were doing the same thing Benmage did. Saying oh.. wow... glad im alive...
3)You Planned multiple lynches with me and mastin. I'm not doing it. I think before I lynch someone.
4) I can't up my posting atm. I'm pretty busy and you're just adding fluff to the game so nobody can catch up.
oh okayalex #77 wrote:you try hardest calling me a hypocrite or something worst everytime you have a chance? That's not cool.
Posts like this make you look Town. Not good on the maturity scale tbh, but Town.alex #78 wrote:BS... You call what I do is not game relevant and what you do is? BS... and more BS... If I was on a personal crusade against those whose playstyle I don't like in this game I would be lynching SensFan, DDD, Cephir, BCC, Camn, maybe GIEFF, maybe KMD. I want to lynch scum. I want to lynch you. The fact that you defended BCC over Cephir makes me confident about not voting Cephir.
1) Not to be confused with Zach saying that he was on the wagon but didn't get a chance to be off it? Cephrir, like most flaker lynches, was low-risk almost-no-return.alex #81 wrote:1) I didn't vote you for that waggon. I vote you because you're scum and you supported a quicklynch but tried to stay off it...
2) Bullshit. Stop talking like SensFan. There's no GOOD policy lynches. We have to lynch scum not people that we dislike for some reason.
3) IIRC, you said she was town...
4) Wich is inconsistent... Why did you derail the bcc waggon but then didn't take responsability for the Cephir one?
5) This is bs. You're night speculating when you voted Mastin for it.
6) 1508: shows why you're scum. Now you say that the Cephir vote had evidence that indicated he was scum? And you call Camn scummy NOW? And VP Baltar obv town? This is all designed to make you look good.
Do you realize that scum can buss each other? If you do... then you'll see that anti-pairing is not so effective.
7) Huh? Are you looking to see if you have support for a mislynch?
Why do you keep asking who does the kill implicate when we all know that scum has 100 % control over it? Didn't SensFan and DDD said that? Didn't you agree? Why do you use it when it's convinient to you? (That was rethorical, the answer is because you're scum)
8) It's amazing how you try to look town and buddy GIEFF in every post but still want others to pick on what you say and make him look scummy.
I can see all of these except the part about calling GIEFF Town and the last one. Could you link me to where GIEFF became Town D1?He voted Mastin.
Unvoted, Voted Me.
Pushed my case a lot. He was "convinced" until people started disbelieving his case.
Then voted GIEFF.
Then, suddenly. Called GIEFF town.
When Mastin was getting lynched. He called Mastin Obv town.
After VP's death. He called VP obv town.
He was CLEARLY against a BCC lynch and pushed a Cephir one.
He was NOT on the Cephir waggon.
He continues to suggest that
Well, we're up to two Town in that groupSensFan 211 wrote:Alex, jammer, GIEFF.
There's a Scum in that group.
I pity the Town if none of you are Scum. That, and I don't think its possible for all 3 of you to be that scummy, but still Town.
'Found this. This lends credence to Zach's position.Zach 1224 wrote:Alex, I changed my mind about Benmage once he actually started being reasonable.
I'm getting a lot of mixed signals from him and it's frustrating.
*zing!*Battle Mage #231 wrote:If you KNEW Cephrir was town, tell me, why didnt you say anything? Yet another terrible scum-slip.alexhans wrote:I have the right to attack those who played poorly and allowed a town lurker to be quicklynched over a possbile scum lurker.
Again, *zing!*Battle Mage #243 wrote:is DDD posting a towntell?Zachrulez wrote:Ok, DDD is posting again.
Unvote:
Thank you. I wanted it to go as far as it could without stretching the page, but the dimensions of the preview window are different from the dimensions of the actual post.Yaw 1928 wrote:I was actually going to do this as soon as I saw the post in question. Consider it done.alexhans wrote:Mod, Could you cut Vi's "lurklurklurk" scream in more than one line so I don't need to scroll this page to read every line? thanks
Benmage 1838 wrote:BYAHHGo Vi!
alexhans 1923 wrote:VI
DDD doesn't need a prod. I'm fairly confident he's aware of this game, considering he posted elsewhere onsite yesterday and today. Plus he plainly told us he was going to lurk through this game, and has done an excellent job of it (no sarcasm). So I'd rather you were voting him than SensFan.GIEFF 1929 wrote:Can you also prod Mr. Danny D?
What has DDD done besides contribute barely?GIEFF 1934 wrote:What has DDD done that is scummy besides contribute lightly?
IGIEFF 1936 wrote:bcc/Kai have contributed less than DDD has, Vi - is their behavior scummy, too?
Also, promising to post but flaking anyway (what Mastin, Cephrir, and bcc did) is different from deliberately lurking except for strategic posts.Vi 1937 wrote:IGIEFF 1936 wrote:bcc/Kai have contributed less than DDD has, Vi - is their behavior scummy, too?ambcc/yuu, and with all due respect I've contributed more in the last 48 hours than DDD has in 77 pages.
Read this again, GIEFF. Both parts, please. This too--Vi 1938 wrote:Also, promising to post but flaking anyway (what Mastin, Cephrir, and bcc did) is different from deliberately lurking except for strategic posts.Vi 1937 wrote:IGIEFF 1936 wrote:bcc/Kai have contributed less than DDD has, Vi - is their behavior scummy, too?ambcc/yuu, and with all due respect I've contributed more in the last 48 hours than DDD has in 77 pages.
Btw, how did you choose the name GIEFF, anyway?Vi 1935 wrote:Plus, as I said, most of the fighting ITT has been Town vs. Town unless I'm terribly wrong about half of you. DDD has had the least excuse for not showing up and is in the bottom two for saying useful things (with Kmd) while having a vote on each wagon (with Zach and SpyreX).
Nope.GIEFF 1941 wrote:So if a more active player replaced DDD, you would stop voting for him?
I see no reason not to believe Cephrir and bcc at least wanted to catch up, but were not able to.Vi 1938 wrote:Also, promising to post but flaking anyway (what Mastin, Cephrir, and bcc did) is different from deliberately lurking except for strategic posts.
...says the person voting SensFan.GIEFF 1941 wrote:This is day 3. We can do better than just lynching one lightly-contributing player among many lightly-contributing players.
That's because you haven't seen ANY behavior from DDD. Which is the point when you consider that DDDGIEFF 1943 wrote:See, but SensFan has acted quite scummily - I haven't seen much scummy behavior from DDD.
Absolutely! I've praised your expert timing for a while now; I'd expect nothing less.Debonair Danny DiPietro 1945 wrote:This is where I post for irony's sake, right?
The last time I checked, I was not responsible for your contribution. But thanks for admitting to being a lurker; I feel quite validated.DDD 1945 wrote:I mean, they both know how to get me to contribute so they can evaluate my stances and opinions. The fact that they haven't done that suggests to me that they're simply looking for the next lurker lynch instead of actually trying to scumhunt.
Right, and that makes everything better somehowDebonair Danny DiPietro 1947 wrote:Why would I deny something that's so obviously the truth. You'll have to excuse me if I don't congratulate you for this insight though; seeing as how I announced this was how I was going to play.Vi wrote:The last time I checked, I was not responsible for your contribution. But thanks for admitting to being a lurker; I feel quite validated.DDD 1945 wrote:I mean, they both know how to get me to contribute so they can evaluate my stances and opinions. The fact that they haven't done that suggests to me that they're simply looking for the next lurker lynch instead of actually trying to scumhunt.
And what, exactly, does this have to do with anything? Anything useful, at any rate.SpyreX 1949 wrote:My argument has been that IF GIEFF is town he will be a NK before we reach true-lylo. This is not because he is SUPER TOWN, but because he has been the most active player in this game.
Actually, let's hold on changing the subject for a moment.SpyreX 1949 wrote:In comparison,
"Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!"SpyreX 1949 wrote:So, you're either Beetlejuice or power-lurking scum ex machina.
I still don't understand WHY you're saying this.SpyreX 1952 wrote:I've been saying that 1.) we have no obvTown this game and 2.) an active "scummy" player is still going to be far more of a threat than a power lurker which leads to 3.) if GIEFF is town he's a marked man.
How regularly, perchance?DDD 1960 wrote:I show up regularly
I'm arguing against myself here, but this isn't necessarily a failproof line of argument. See B&B-scum in Mafia 89, who lurked his way through five game Days before accidentally not picking up a prod soon enough and getting replaced (by someone else who never posted).SpyreX 1963 wrote:If the argument is "They are lurking because they don't want to contribute as scum" and they get flat out replaced well that doesn't really serve their win condition as any respectable player doesn't count a game as a win when they get replaced.
No, I'm the Cop. You were supposed to ask me this as soon as I replaced in, thoughKmd 1976 wrote:Better hope Vi isn't a dayvig.
Vi, are you?
Nah, Benmage was pretty clearly Town before the meltdown.DDD 1997 wrote:Ben, you think maybe if I throw a small fit and self-vote maybe you clowns would see reason?
I still can't understand half of what you're saying, so I'm not sure pointing anything out would make a differenceSpyreX 2032 wrote:I feel like I'm missing a question still - Vi did you ask me something that I missed?
TRYING TO BYPASS LIKE THAT MAKES YOU LOOK SILLYKmd 2072 wrote:OK, VI.
I'll counterclaim that.Kmd4390 2084 wrote:I'm at L-1, so I'll claim. I'm vanilla.
I did. How does that make him scum?Kmd4390 2085 wrote:Did you see how he acted like he was pretty much lynched after just two votes? Very defeatist.
Not agreeing with you on these in particular. DDD specifically said he tries to play differently in every game. Something has bothered me about SpyreX since I replaced in; everything seems halfhearted.Kmd4390 2084 wrote:Debonair Danny DiPietro - Town. He's playing how he did in a lovers game where I got him lynched in LYLO (I was scum in that game). Only shows up when he has a point to make, makes the point, and continues lurking.
SpyreX - Town. This is the same townSpy I've seen in a handful of games.
What is YawMod worth to you? You had more than enough opportunity to skip out D1SensFan 2102 wrote:If it weren't for the fact this was a YawMod game, I'd have requested replacement N0, and absolutely nothing that has happened since has put any more want in me to play this game with people like you.
I agree with this.Zachrulez 2132 wrote:What I am finding interesting is how quickly KMD was run up to lynch -1, and how those same players who seem willing to run up multiple players without much of a care aren't quite as quick to place their vote on Sens.
Making me wonder.
I also agree with this.Zachrulez 2133 wrote:Question. You seem quite convinced of Gieff being scum, yet your vote finds it's way on DDD. Are you really more suspicious of DDD, or are you voting him because of the perception that he's easier to lynch?
I'm just wondering why you're not willing to vote Gieff is he's quite clearly scum...
aquÃBattle Mage 2144 wrote:Vi, feel free to answer this.Battle Mage wrote:since when did you consider me a dubious character?Vi wrote:We need more of the dubious characters posting right about now.
By which I mean Battle Mage, Kmd, SpyreX, and jammer.
Some more Zach would be nice too (yes, I see your last post), because that vote post still bothers me.
Unfortunately Search is down right now.
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I see you voting for him in 1572, and unvoting him in favor of alexhans in 1575 -Battle Mage 2134 wrote:i was voting for[DDD]earlier, and nobody was interested.
Why?Battle Mage 2134 wrote:DDD seems lynchable, andhe's more likely to be scum than Sens.
jammer 2153 wrote:Why I had GIEFF as a lynch candidate. I do not like the usefull/useless amount. To me seemed he was posting loads to seem town, instead of actually finding scum with any of it.
I don't think they've implemented the Ignore User option yet.SensFan wrote:Hmmmm...so only Vi and DDD have posted since my last post. Wierd.
This feels more or less right. I wouldn't be against a SpyreX lynch at this time anyway.DDD 2211 wrote:It bothers me that SpyreX is doing his best to carve out a difference between myself and Sens, seems like he’s digging for whatever extremely weak justification he can find to support my lynch and not that of Sens. If we could actually get the SpyreX lynch that I’d like and he flips scum I’d have to re-evaluate my stance on Sens.
Oh, now you can't just post that without dropping the names of these lurker-wagoners.SpyreX 2230 wrote:I really dig the I'm scum because I'm looking for REASONS for the lurking instead of just lurkin' on down the choo-choo-train.
That's... actually very flimsy as far as practical reasoning goes, for reasons already mentioned.Zach 2231 wrote:Well in this case, I really don't see any reason for Sens to assume he won't be night killed, and I feel it's a viable excuse from a scum perspective to explain one's continued survival.
I disagree with this, and thus everything after that so I don't have to quote it all.Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Internally, I know it's invalid since I know my alignment. Externally, here's my though process on the matter: vote placement analysis to my understanding is primarily predicated on finding a player looking for easy lynches.Vi wrote:So you're the fourth person on this wagon too, DDD. Do you think people are justified in seeing that as a scumtell?
Specifically I agree with this.SpyreX 2240 wrote:So, its a matter of parsing out WHY and HOW to try and find the actual scum in that mess.
At heart this entire game has been a divide of the spew and the not. This has been, and has stayed true, since I said it early day one.
DDD wagon - Vi, SpyreX, Benmage, maybe Battle MageSpyreX 2240 wrote:When you take that into conjunction with how quickly the sensfan wagon got traction versus this, which I have brought up before, yes it makes me feel even more comfortable about it.
You may have answered this already, but it's late at night so I'm going to ask again: Why?GIEFF 2247 wrote:@Benmage: I am not willing to lynch DDD today.
Should we start with your recent votehopping?GIEFF 2282 wrote:What am I wrong about, Vi?
Definitely dubious.Kmd4390 2332 wrote:Prodded. I am way behind. I probably won't get to this game until tomorrow night.