Mastin wrote:Then you will inevitably fail to truly counter me. Not responding to everything will leave you looking scummy, because you'll inevitably leave out key parts of my argument.
(Well, you would, except that half of the time, I'm too lazy to check back on my own posts and go by memory.)
Mastin, I think you are forgetting that we have lives. We can't comment on everything that you say, otherwise, we would be extremely behind in the game. Probably ten pages or so. Not responding to everything does not make him scummy. There are people like Mufasa and Empking who haven't contributed anything, and you haven't commented on their scumminess, apart from the scum tell you pointed out about Mufasa that was a long stretch.
Mastin wrote:1: And, I'll return the favor and sum it up for you:
I'm not wrong.
2: And even if I were, being wrong is not a scum tell.
1: Well your not right all the time.
2: Depends.
Mastin wrote:So, what?
Being wrong a lot isn't really an issue, now, is it?
Yeah kinda. It may actually put incorrect thoughts into other people's minds. If you are making incorrect statements about yourself, then it may serve as propaganda in your favor and convince others not to be suspicious of you.
Mastin wrote:^^This is called entrapment at best
Entrapment--laying a trap. In this case, for scum.
What's wrong with that?
Nothing.
Sometimes entrapment can trap the wrong people, and sometimes if it does, then it may have been the intention. But who were you "trapping" in this case anyway?
Mastin wrote:I. Never. Rolefish. Like, ever. Never in my games, have I rolefished, and I take SERIOUS offense at the accusation. Not as scum. Not as town.
Read it at face value: Me wanting to trap scum.
Stating whether it worked or not, however, would be anti-town to do, because it would give the scum information that they otherwise would not have had, allowing them to safeclaim in the future. (I have a theory on the matter. If I decide to reveal whether the trap ensnared scum or Khan passed, I'll also reveal the theory I have about scum PM's vs. town PM's.)
First you say that you never rolefish, and then you don't even defend yourself, but instead point out something anti-town that you did that you admit seems anti-town. In case you don't know what I mean, you pointed out that it was anti-town to give the scum more information then they already have, but asking for more flavor in a role claim does give them more information in case they were planning on role claiming in the future.
Mastin wrote:Summaries suck. Simple.
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Seriously, though. They don't convey the entire message. If you want the case against me, I will be happy to give you a PBPA on your scummy actions which will prove that you are scum.
But I'm not going to make a summary of the accusations.
Not that hard to understand.
Summaries surely shouldn't suck.
If it is something that'll prove that he is scum, then give it to us if you already haven't or point it out to me if you have.
Honestly, me, VP, and a few others are probably the only ones that'll read everything that you say. If you think there are points that absolutely can't be skipped then bold them or point them out at the end. This can be included in your summary. Also, summaries are good for revealing your overall opinions on the situation, because you don't seem to do that too often.
Mastin wrote:Note the underlined, and the italicized. Emerald is part of the role, not the flavor.
I agree with this. Just in case people weren't aware of this, but I am suspicious of both Mastin and Khan.
Mastin wrote:Lynch anyone who doesn't claim Emerald *role* when claiming, please.
I think this is scummy.
Mastin wrote:Yes, it does. If Khan has a vital role to your faction (be it either Cerulean or the
other faction
), or you have a small Mafia Faction (this would be ESPECIALLY true if you're Cerulean.), then defending him would be your best shot at winning.
Hmm... Do you know something that we don't? That is sure what it seems like.
Mastin wrote:Okay, "so be it"-->Lynch VP. You know that, correct?
I think VP meant something else when he said that. You seem pretty eager to lynch in this quote and the one before the previous.
Mastin wrote:2: And, again, things could be different this game. A smaller mafia faction than one would expect in a game of this size, or Khan being an absolutely vital mafia role (only power role, for example), would make practically any player defend their buddy.
I agree with Mastin when he says this, but I don't think it means anything.
There is tons more to come.