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Well, I don't agree with the town lean on else. I posted that before I saw it. I don't want to go along with whatever you say. And that's certainly not my plan. Part of what I meant stemmed from Alisae being super off and basically being... Difficult when to me you're pretty clearly trying to figure shit out. And that was my reason for the vote there. I didn't think it was too difficult for her to come up with examples of rc doing what she said he does all the time, but she still refused to and acted like your posts and questions are out of line when they certainly were not. She took everything you said and put her own little unnecessary spin in it, and I hated that. Like your wanting specifics, and she jumps to wanting to teach you what scumhunting is... Like wtf is up with that?In post 172, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:My biggest weakness as town is I'm buddied really fucking easy. On mobile but go to my view topics and Micro Vanillish. I was IC and Pine led me to a loss so hard.
So with that being established, I'd like it if you actually tell me what you agree with or why you are okay with just going with whatever I said. I'm not accusing you of buddying I just get paranoid about these things.
Back to the question, is a general reaction of when I'm reading through, I'm reading other players like "wtf?" and I'm reading you like "yeah def" if that makes sense.-
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Did it look like he was trying to stall the game? What was your point?In post 209, Not_Mafia wrote:And ending RVS too early is bad and an excellent way to stall a game as scum-
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That's not what she said...In post 219, eagerSnake wrote:
No. But usually at least get an RVS vote or someone claiming I'm scum. Neither happened. Surprising. Felt left out.In post 218, Elsa and Anna wrote:
You getIn post 213, eagerSnake wrote:I'm surprised none have misidentified me as scum yet. Similarly, I am surprised no scum have faked a scum read on me yet.
I have many other thoughts and opinions, but nothing worth sharing yet.
-Snakemislyncheda lot D1 or something?
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Ok NOW I feel better about Elsa, but that could be in part for feeling worse about eager here.
Eager, to make new notes. Honestly they should pop into your head and should be easy to remember considering you already made them once. I'm not reading as Elsa latching onto anything. At least not on a scummy way. I do the same shit.
I always think it's scummy when someone says they have something, but then all of a sudden they forgot to save or lost it all. And they've also flipped town before so just go make new notes.
My read on gin hasn't changed
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Where you at on any scum reads?In post 327, Ælla Was Spine wrote:Also you're about to engage him in a conversation that isn't gonna go anywhere just bail out now imo
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256, where you say you like my 179, and agree what I noticed about Elsa makes them scummy. My 179 was all about raging specifically alisae...In post 295, Flubbernugget wrote:
Agreed that I cited 254 errantly but your contributions to the beginning of the game weren't impressive at bestIn post 271, Elsa and Anna wrote:I can't see your citations.
254 : i saying you don't have a good read on us
255 : Not sure what is your point. Are you questioning RC town abilities?
256 : is not related to us
257 : where did he use meta exactly?
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255 is me saying you're trying too hard to look town. btw, did you ever post conclusions from the reactions you got? I probably missed it
256 is me saying I think what lane has noticed about you makes you scummy
257 is me saying you use enough meta to be able to explain why this isn't typical town play from not mafia-
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They aren't related.In post 355, Elsa and Anna wrote:
What about "your read on gin is not chnaging" is related to "your read on Elsa is chnaging"?In post 350, lane0168 wrote:Ok NOW I feel better about Elsa, but that could be in part for feeling worse about eager here.
Eager, to make new notes. Honestly they should pop into your head and should be easy to remember considering you already made them once. I'm not reading as Elsa latching onto anything. At least not on a scummy way. I do the same shit.
I always think it's scummy when someone says they have something, but then all of a sudden they forgot to save or lost it all. And they've also flipped town before so just go make new notes.
My read on gin hasn't changed
My read on Elsa is changing
@eager may I ask you to give us a tldr of your current reads?
and this time make sure to post them here publicly not where your daughter practice letters and numbers
#Elsa
And also for eager it should be easy cause he said they were mostly feelings... Well I don't know how you forget how you feel about people-
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Did sircakez answer? So I don't have to ask?In post 283, Leonshade wrote:
What was town about RS's posting?In post 278, SirCakez wrote:RagingSpammers' posting on the last page was town but jfc can you not live up to your name thanks.
eager if NM is getting vigged, why are you still voting him?
My Spammers vote is now a serious one. Snake sees more interested in talking about himself than anyone else, I want to figure out whether that's his style or whether he's hiding behind it.
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"posted what I posted" referring to what?In post 351, eagerSnake wrote:The whole reason I posted what I posted was to see who would latch onto it.
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You just answered with saying the same thing. What was the thing you "posted what you posted" that you're talking about?In post 364, lane0168 wrote:
"posted what I posted" referring to what?In post 351, eagerSnake wrote:The whole reason I posted what I posted was to see who would latch onto it.
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... What?In post 391, Elsa and Anna wrote:why I first the first reaction of you the "Lol" one I mean more genuine than the rest of your posts?
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Because I was busy doing other things. Keep readingIn post 395, RagingSpammers wrote:
Hey Laaaaaaaane, why did you drop the interaction here?In post 354, eagerSnake wrote:
I felt the whole page 1 thing was rather townie while I witnessed it happening real-time.In post 353, lane0168 wrote:@eager what do you think is town about ragingspam?
Alisae and CK I have played with both of them as town and don't see or feel any noticeable difference here.
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DiddoIn post 510, Elsa and Anna wrote:
why I'm in your list? any particular concern?In post 504, Ælla Was Spine wrote:I think RS is town too
So far I'd be cool with lynching MoI/Elsa&A/Lane/massive/NotMafia
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This is fair Elsa. I actually had to go check cause at first I didn't think I had a role name and thought raging made it up.In post 520, RagingSpammers wrote:
tbh I forgot what character I was.In post 515, Elsa and Anna wrote:why you didn't claim it with your role claim?-
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When you type it out like that, it seems worse. Considering how quickly it was back tracked. But then again it could be scum thinking it would get them killed if someone noticed, and deciding it was a bad idea and coming clean. Like if someone noticed, what would have happened... Either we lynch spyro or raging. Then if she takes it back she's deadIn post 546, Leonshade wrote:
I don't see the town motivation to fake-CC a PR. The only thing that confuses me is that RS backed out, and outed their own weird CC that no one else would have noticed anyway.In post 541, Ælla Was Spine wrote:
I don't really see the scum motivation behind itIn post 539, Leonshade wrote:
Talk to me about your townread on Spammers. What do you think about their fake CC?In post 504, Ælla Was Spine wrote:I think RS is town too
So far I'd be cool with lynching MoI/Elsa&A/Lane/massive/NotMafia
Now that I type it out like that, it does seem silly. Hmm.-
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This is terrible reasoning. Absolute dog shitIn post 784, RagingSpammers wrote:
You want to know what would really make this seem genuine?In post 781, Leonshade wrote:I'll catch up later today, I also need to re-read RS's ISO with an open mind.
An unvote.
You want to know why?
Becuase if it was genuine, you would have unvoted so that you could read my ISO with an open mind without having to worried about me getting hammered, because I'm currently at L-2. And then once having re-read, put your vote back on if you so desired.
VOTE: Leonshade
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Still applies? even though it's about a completely different person? Or do you mean what I said about rs, applies to ea. Got yaIn post 803, Flubbernugget wrote:
Still appliesIn post 355, lane0168 wrote:256, where you say you like my 179, and agree what I noticed about Elsa makes them scummy. My 179 was all about raging specifically alisae...-
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There are 2 factions. Loyal to spyro, and forces of evil. I have a very uneasy feeling about the bolded and I've been rereading it trying to figure out why. There's a certain hesitation to call spyro Town here, and I really don't know why that is. Leon, does your roll pm that mentions spyro not make it clear what alignment he is? Or the fact that "loyal to spyro" is town faction, and spyro being scum seems a little bastard.In post 510, Leonshade wrote:
The only thing I'm confirmed is that Spyro is in this game, so I know it's not a fakeclaim.In post 471, Elsa and Anna wrote:you mean it confirms that flavor is town?
I don't know flavor but it seems main character
#ElsaIf flavor is linked to alignment, it's town.Don't want to vote a D1 vig claim regardless.
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So many pr claims! This game is a shit show lol. This day just needs to end. I'm still sketched by Leon, and him not doing any digging after the spyro claim. Didn't even bother to look to see if maybe spyro was ai. That doesn't seem like someone who is unsure about spyro's alignment.
Considering the amount of roles being thrown out, I have no idea if role cop is scum. I was leaning scum, until we had another one.
What do we have for role claims?
Gin-1 shot role cop neighbor
N_m- 1 shot role cop neighbor
E&a - friendly neighbor *psyche* messenger
Eager - spyro vig
Leon - something that tells him spyro is in the game
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You're still on that first post? Figured you would realize how not fake it was. Considering its been 5 days, over 40 pages. A lot of shit show, and me posting when I have something to say. It's the nature of the game. That "fake" post is exactly how I felt and all feelIn post 1105, Infinity 324 wrote:
His first post was awkward and then he changed his tone which I found more suspicious. I did say I liked the follow up better but it's still possible from scum.In post 1103, massive wrote:How does lane get below the null line?-
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VOTE: leonshade
I think this'll be scum knowing there's spyro. He says he's unsure of alignment of spyro, but did zero research to maybe figure out if it was. Seems like something you might do. But did no digging, considering he didn't know if it was AI, and didn't know town fraction is "loyal to spyro". Wouldn't you at least try to look at the setup, and look for anything hinting at alignment and see if there is anything alluding to spyro's alignment?
That still looks to be like someone who knows spyros alignment and wanted to be cautious and make it look like he didn't know-
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It wasn't a town read. You were voting there. You unvoted with the claim? I just think maybe you would've checked to see if there was any information that would hint at spyros alignment. Because figuring out people's alignment is how you play this game. Scum don't need to if course
I couldn't tell you how much experience I have with that. I can't remember. I don't know that it's relevant considering you not knowing the alignment is not the reason for the vote. It's the fact you didn't do the simple things that could've alluded to it. Like read the setup-
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We're not. At least I'm notIn post 1137, Infinity 324 wrote:Why are we having a discussion about whether someone who essentially claimed vig on ~page 10 is scum?
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I focused on other things. It didn't strike me one way or another. It didn't convince me rs was town. It wasn't something I was about to go meta diving for and fact check. And i wouldn't have gotten a better answer that did convince me considering it was meta and eagers opinion. I didn't see a need to continue it. You're welcome to though.In post 1135, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok, why did you end the interaction there? What did you think of eager's response?-
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ChillIn post 1145, Infinity 324 wrote:
@laneIn post 1135, Infinity 324 wrote:What did you think of eager's response?-
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You quoted 1. Was there more? I guess you could say that's just my style then. I'd say I generally find things that seem significant to me, but may not be to other people.In post 1152, Infinity 324 wrote:
Ok fine.In post 1146, lane0168 wrote:
I focused on other things. It didn't strike me one way or another. It didn't convince me rs was town. It wasn't something I was about to go meta diving for and fact check. And i wouldn't have gotten a better answer that did convince me considering it was meta and eagers opinion. I didn't see a need to continue it. You're welcome to though.In post 1135, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok, why did you end the interaction there? What did you think of eager's response?
And sorry for repeating, I thought you missed the question.
Anyway, so far I feel like you're nitpicking instead of scumhunting. It reminds me of your play in the purge. I just don't see you really trying to figure people out with any of your questions.-
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That's exactly it. I'm self aware of this game compared to others. Generally I'm highest poster and if I'm not, there's not much going on. I got to this game "late" and quickly realized this is a whole new can if worms. From my first post I recognize I've never been in a game with so many very active players. It's just the nature of the game.In post 1169, Infinity 324 wrote:
Yes, I'll ISO you and find more if you want me to.In post 1164, lane0168 wrote:You quoted 1. Was there more? I guess you could say that's just my style then. I'd say I generally find things that seem significant to me, but may not be to other people.
But what's with this tone change from when I explained my SR on you before? Is it just that you thought my earlier reasons for SRing you were shit and this is more reasonable?
I will say that even though I was scum in poker mafia, you seemed obvtown to me there
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@rc, because I townread Gin, and my gut says you're scum. Our last two games you were scum, one I was blown away you didn't get lynched after 2 fake claims, the other I was pretty confident you were scum, but I couldn't explain it clearly. Here I'm getting that feeling because I know you've played the "people just want to lynch me to say they lynched me incase I'm scum" and you play "id never play shitty as town to make my scum game better" cards. Also I totally agree that you AtE incessantly until it works and people go from "this is scum rc, look what he's doing" to "wow he's doing it SO MUCH he can't be scum" like infinity has done.
Leon is a town read.
@moi I've changed my mind on Leon, so my scum reads are still raging, because I see the fake claim the opposite of everyone else except Leon. That she tested the waters, realized how it could fuck her over, and came clean. She wasn't thinking clearly, thinking she could maybe get the vig lynched, but realized how bad of an idea it was.
I could hop on with moi on sircakez.
Infinity I'm struggling with. Surprisingly, he's the only one that keeps bringing up how different I am. But is that because everyone else that sees it, can see past that, and he's scum trying to pick something easy? Or if it's real. I was leaning real, but his sudden release of rc while rc changed nothing, including continuing not giving reads throws me off.
I can't see any reason to townread flubber.
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I think it's completely not what I know from scum rc.... In 2015In post 1535, Infinity 324 wrote:
WellIn post 1528, lane0168 wrote:"wow he's doing it SO MUCH he can't be scum" like infinity has done.
After I just kept scumreading him more and more for AtEing, yes him continuing to do it looks town to me.
But my main reason for townreading him is that his actions after the AtE don't seem manipulative or apologetic at all.
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I was just going to say... I simultaneously trust him and distrust him. I don't know if I could sheep them on that. I've maybe ever been so duped once (if Gin was actually scum) which is why I wish he'd answer you when asking about other people.In post 1547, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok interesting. How much do you think we should trust RC if he's town?
Also what do you think about his play post-AtE?
I think his play post AtE looks like he did everything he could to get pressure off him so he can stop with the charade. He still hasn't done any of the things asked of him during the freak out-
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I said if you think I'm nitpicking here and in a scum game apparently its nai. I know my playstyle is normally finding something seemingly insignificant and driving it home as town. And that's how I normally obvi town.In post 1607, Infinity 324 wrote:@lane So just to get this straight, you think the nitpicking is a normal part of your playstyle as both alignments, but your tone has changed for you from your normal tone as either alignment?
I don't have a normal tone as scum. I haven't played enough for it to be a normal tone. I've done ok like once that wasn't multiball, pretty good when multiball, and generally terrible when not multiball.
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*Jackie Chan what?*In post 1673, eagerSnake wrote:I think not wanting to mass claim and the openly opposing it is blatantly anti-town in this situation
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