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Post Post #960 (isolation #200) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:47 pm

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You don't actually care who you vote do you? You're just going to throw your vote around until it sticks huh?
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Post Post #961 (isolation #201) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:48 pm

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I mean thanks for confirming me that your opinion and votes mean absolutely nothing. I really thought someone that boasted as much as you would be...well actually a good player.

shame.
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Post Post #962 (isolation #202) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:50 pm

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I mean fuck sake ya twit, I've been the main driver of multiple wagons and even brought attention to the slot you're accusing.

Get your head out of the ass if you think I don't have an opinion.
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Post Post #965 (isolation #203) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:52 pm

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and sticking to the sidelines?

SERIOUSLY.

I BROUGHT US OUT OF RVS WITH THE MOST SKETCH SHIT.

It brought a lot of heat to me, a lot of attention.

I've constantly been working on RagingSpammers
I've made sure lane isn't buddying me.
I've looked into eager
I looked into you.
I explained why AElla was a town read why people scum read him.


Like seriously go fuck off with your bullshit accusations.
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Post Post #968 (isolation #204) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:53 pm

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In post 958, Elsa and Anna wrote:VOTE: Gin-n-tonic

I don't like you staying on the sidelines and throwing in dirt from there. Commit to something.
If your ability doesn't confirm you as town you're getting run up D2. This vote is shit and everyone in this playerlist knows exactly why.
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Post Post #971 (isolation #205) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:55 pm

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In post 967, Elsa and Anna wrote:Alright.

VOTE: Gin-n-tonic

Consider this gladiated. You can vig me and FA if we are wrong. we won't be.
You're asking for a deathwish then.

Also good luck getting these votes sweetie.

Here's the thing. People know I'm town, people think you're scum.

How exactly are you going to pull off this lynch on the most widely town read player?

Because fuck me sometimes when you town read someone it's because they're fucking town.
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Post Post #974 (isolation #206) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:57 pm

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Also you vote without conviction. You vote where the wind blows where you think it'll go and then you don't justify it at all.

I'm sorry if you think you have some bravado where you think everyone will listen to you but that's not how it works at all.

You vote me every time I disagree with you and it's pathetic at best.
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Post Post #976 (isolation #207) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:58 pm

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You have an ego problem...
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Post Post #979 (isolation #208) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:00 am

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In post 79, Elsa and Anna wrote:Kindda famous in MS
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Post Post #982 (isolation #209) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:02 am

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Spoiler: All posts boasting ego
In post 137, Elsa and Anna wrote:You know that in like about 50 games on MS you are the only one who ever mislynched me as town and RC is the only one who ever lynched me when I was scum?

[and yeah I got lynched twice in 50 games on MS.]

But yeah Me/Elsa and my Frozen Icy things are kindda famous around here on MS. You are to shy to be in the community a lot :]

and stop calling me game thrower. Your play in that game was absoloute trash and I was just testing your unlynchable shit as my masonary suggested. You policy lynched me in lylo cause you were angry at me criticizing your play instead of playing - I was really tired and it was a busy regular wednsday so yeah

#Elsa
In post 140, Elsa and Anna wrote:WHAT

ARE YOU ALL JEALOUS?

I AM A CELEBRITY AROUND HERE >.>

#Elsa
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In post 542, Elsa and Anna wrote:Thats totally cool by me

You will just remove a wifomy slot (too good to be true), confirm yourself and I will rest in peace knowing I'm in one less mafia game and colser to my retirement day :]

I'm zoe , town friendly neighbor (massenger) - you have the gun so you force people to claim.

shrugs!

show me your accuracy

I never misvigged in my past 50 games on MS and a lot of games out of it :] the only time I had investigative (a tracker) I got double guilties in row

I never got mislynched in a day beside lylo - and the honor was massive's. the only other time that I got lynched (and I was scum) RC used an RL tell. Thats the total summery of my lynch status.

Now. why in the fucking earth anyone as shit as you are dare to criticize my game play? I'm retirying for a good reason. :]

#Elsa
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In post 578, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 558, Elsa and Anna wrote:I never lost a single scum game beside the one that I was lynched in and another one when I was a jester in a setup full of confirmed guilties!

As town - beside large theme games that I still have a great read ratio in them - I have way upper than 50% winrate.

the last time I had a vig, i lead a lynch on one scum nd shot the other that night to end the game N1. (and I did this both times I had vig variants)

you are a vig I think :] show your skill and we will compare our status post game

#Elsa
I'm not perfect, neither are you. I've shot townies. I've lynched townies. I've been pocketed by scum (untrod tripod in blood in the streets mafia) which caused game loss, but I did nail scum the other scum d1 and n1. But usually, I am pretty good on my reads. Usually, I'm also pretty easy to read as town once I really start explaining my POV. But I am misread a lot at first. I've also never lost a scum game, but I think that's only because I make people underestimate me, as I'm actually quite obvscum imo.

I also don't like answering a bunch of questions when I'm town and being accused as scum because of it, esp when there's others like NM in the game doing fuck all. I see it like "damnit now I gotta answer all these fucking questions when what I really want to be doing is re-reading the game to find scum."

But, instead of dick measuring, I think it'd be best to work together to win. We still have plenty of days left until EOD, I don't think it was necessary for you to claim immediately just because I said I was going to shoot you. You could've just made me see you as town instead of claiming. But I feel like you probably feel the same way I feel as far as having to answer to bunch of bullshit as town
Just last thing before logging off. No you strated comparing game skills after me saying you suck and I gave you completly accurate statics. Its based on about 50 games on MS and around 40 games out of it on 2 different sites.

I was vig 3 times and never misshot.

and well not exactly. I never dodged any questions. Te point is you never asked one from me :] You concern about my slot was that I pushed you so yeah, You have the gun now, you treathened to vig I claimed. next time don't do that if you have still room for evaluation and your not expecting a claim :]

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Post Post #983 (isolation #210) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:02 am

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You got the biggest fucking ego in the game and you're not actually that good
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Post Post #984 (isolation #211) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:03 am

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In post 981, Elsa and Anna wrote:Nah I am going to ignore you because I have scum to lynch. You carry on doing your thing though, just realize that if you're town you will get lynched at some point.
This doesn't come from town
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Post Post #987 (isolation #212) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:04 am

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So Elsa, you're 100% a friendly neighbor, as in you'll be confirmed town 100%?
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Post Post #991 (isolation #213) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:07 am

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In post 990, Elsa and Anna wrote:
In post 987, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:So Elsa, you're 100% a friendly neighbor, as in you'll be confirmed town 100%?
Yep your 100% blind

#Elsa
God this is game over for town then.
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Post Post #994 (isolation #214) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:08 am

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HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post Post #995 (isolation #215) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:08 am

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Ah no, you can ask anyone that's played with me. I blow up in your face for having the audacity to call me scum when I'm town but if I'm scum I take your hand and I casually escort you out of the read.
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Post Post #997 (isolation #216) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:09 am

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Sweetie, you're so naive it hurts.
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Post Post #998 (isolation #217) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:11 am

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Like this is embarrassing!
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Post Post #1000 (isolation #218) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:12 am

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Okay yeah, I've had my fun. You can beat your head against the wall and call me scum but yeah, I don't plan on interacting with your opinions that much. Only thing you can do is confirm yourself as town, otherwise you've shown me you seriously can't keep yourself focused on one path.
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Post Post #1002 (isolation #219) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:14 am

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We have a vig alive, so we either keep the vig alive or me, just out of spite I'm going to go ahead give you a big fuck you. I'm the 1-shot role cop. You can leave your ego any fucking day sweetheart.
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #220) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:16 am

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Well I'm more pissed off by your stupidity but call it what you want.
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #221) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:18 am

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In post 1008, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1002, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:We have a vig alive, so we either keep the vig alive or me, just out of spite I'm going to go ahead give you a big fuck you. I'm the 1-shot role cop. You can leave your ego any fucking day sweetheart.
...why?

Calm down gin. We caught scum.
She's honestly worse than drealz and oh my god does that guy tunnel the fuck out of me.
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Post Post #1010 (isolation #222) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:19 am

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I'm fucking mad because I'm going to have to deal with her barking shit that makes no sense because she has this big fucking ego thinking she's some scum hunting god when no one ever fucking will be. It's not fun to play with but fucking annoying.
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #223) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:20 am

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She apparently has an ability that can confirm herself as town.
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #224) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:23 am

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I'm still vary confused on the ability to be honest.
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Post Post #1016 (isolation #225) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:24 am

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I'm really at the point where I believe the claim, not the player.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #226) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:26 am

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The last time I've seen that is in the Hunger Games II and that was from both town game manipulators
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #227) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:29 am

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Would my role cop shot prove it to be a town or not power role?
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #228) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:33 am

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oh that's lame then.
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Post Post #1024 (isolation #229) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:34 am

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Well if I die over the Vig than that confirms there are special scum only roles in play
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #230) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:36 am

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I mean if I get a "this person is a 1-shot Strongman"

We'll know that slot is basically always scum. However if they're like goons and stuff, it won't matter if I don't get alignment.
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #231) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:37 am

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basically I'm not a threat as much as I would be over the Vig
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #232) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:39 am

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I do stupid shit when people get me angry :(
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #233) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:40 am

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Spoiler: More Ego posting I found from E/A
In post 1029, Elsa and Anna wrote:He claimed because he was rattled scum.

Role cop is much more frequently a scum role than a town role anyway and him suggesting that he's even worthy of consideration over the vig is laughable.

Infinity would you stop trying to throw lifelines to caught scum because if you keep doing it you are going to get vigged tonight.
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #234) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:41 am

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Also someone doesn't want me to use my ability apparently.

Good to know ;)
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Post Post #1034 (isolation #235) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:43 am

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THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #236) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:43 am

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YOU BOAST AN ATTITUDE, I CALL YOU OUT ON YOUR SHIT, AND YOU CALL ME SCUM FOR IT.
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Post Post #1036 (isolation #237) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:43 am

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STOP SAYING PEOPLE ARE SCUM BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH YOU. THATS BAD PLAY
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #238) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:44 am

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So is the entire basis of your scum read that I disagreed with you?
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #239) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:47 am

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No seriously, you said some false accusations by saying I've been sitting on the sidelines when I've given and driven my opinions on just about every player in the game and then said I was throwing dirt(No idea what you actually mean by that) and then use some "BBT tell" as a basis for a "scum claim" when 1, I'm not BBT, and 2, you admitted to having an ego so I wasn't wrong in saying you have an ego problem.

Under no circumstances do you have a scum read on me that doesn't fall under I didn't push Infinity with you at that exact moment.
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #240) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:55 am

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In post 1044, Elsa and Anna wrote:I sincerely do not believe Infinity is this bad as town. I think that he's scum hard defending his scumpartner.
The chronology on this game already disproves this theory lol
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #241) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:01 am

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You don't discredit as town
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #242) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:04 am

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In post 1049, Elsa and Anna wrote:Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh rc and fa don't discredit as town
In post 1046, Elsa and Anna wrote:What should we do besides discredit you when you replaced in,
So scum claim. Awesome
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #243) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:05 am

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In post 1046, Elsa and Anna wrote:What should we do besides discredit you
In post 1046, Elsa and Anna wrote:should we do besides discredit
In post 1046, Elsa and Anna wrote: do besides discredit
In post 1046, Elsa and Anna wrote:
discredit
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Post Post #1061 (isolation #244) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:12 am

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In post 1059, Elsa and Anna wrote:Infinity you've played what like 2 games with me? People with 30+ games with me can't read me well. Why do you think that you have a contextual understanding of what Scum!RC is and isn't?
This looks like discrediting Infinity.
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #245) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:13 am

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why discredit him about trying to read you when you complimented me on trying to read you.

Tell me more princess.
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #246) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:16 am

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Isn't that what you're doing with taking these "tells" you have out of context and applying them to me without any sort of explanation as to why that's the case?
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #247) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:15 am

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Lol Radiant Cowbells is mad
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #248) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:15 am

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In post 1205, RadiantCowbells wrote:I will get you a read on MoI if you vote Gin with me. How does that sound?
Ew, this is a stinky post
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #249) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:18 am

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Hey Cowbells, you at L-1?


Also I don't remember a time when town wouldn't talk about another slot to push a lynch. It doesn't seem that towny
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Post Post #1213 (isolation #250) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:19 am

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Hey Radiant, you should bet your account that you'll never post on that account again if you're wrong lolz
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Post Post #1216 (isolation #251) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:20 am

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In post 15, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Yeah...I'm going to already take us out of RVS, I'm reading this is a cheeky page 1 scum claim but doing only so because it's "RVS"
In post 4, Elsa and Anna wrote:VOTE: Elsa

Other head is scum please help me bus thanks.

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IF I'M FUCKING RIGHT
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #252) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:21 am

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In post 1215, RadiantCowbells wrote:We are not allowed to make in game bets. I like the show of bravado though.
Oh okee, carry on with your wayward soul. It was really meant to ask you if you truly believed in the shit you said or was making a final stand going down swinging
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #253) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:22 am

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I think the funniest part about this is that I'm still not willing to lynch RC. If she has a friendly neighbor thingy then that's that.
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Post Post #1226 (isolation #254) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:24 am

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It's just I'm sitting here laughing at RC flailing and crying because RC isn't getting what RC wants. I mean everyone tells her how she's wrong but some people don't listen to reason.


Also RC, you actually admitted to saying you could make a case and say shit you found but not producing that...well doesn't help your case. No one cares about your opinion if it isn't evidence based. So get to it young warrior!
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #255) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:25 am

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In post 1228, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1221, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:If she has a friendly neighbor thingy then that's that.
...I thought we established that it's not an actual friendly neighbor
RC WHAT IS IT
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #256) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:27 am

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I actually don't know sweetie. If you don't have the friendly neighbor thing my vote would be on you.

P-Edit: Lolz I'm not a miller

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Post Post #1239 (isolation #257) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:28 am

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In post 1155, RadiantCowbells wrote:There's a reason that I have never followed through on a fake guilty and been wrong. My 'uberconfident' scumreads are never wrong.
Also don't lie about stuff before you do it silly
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #258) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:28 am

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In post 1240, RadiantCowbells wrote:If Eager dies during the night and Gin doesn't flip you all are going to powerlynch Gin.
Let's not and say we didn't. I'm town and you've just been a crying child who is mad they didn't get what they want. You didn't play the game but screamed.
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #259) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:30 am

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In post 1243, Ælla Was Spine wrote:Why do you have to turn every game into an angry wasteland
Does this happen every game?
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #260) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:32 am

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So RC, I want an apology and a hug when you know I'm town, mkay? <3
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #261) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:33 am

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In post 1249, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:So RC, I want an apology and a hug when you know I'm town, mkay? <3
Can you at least promise me this?
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #262) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:35 am

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In post 1250, RadiantCowbells wrote:As for why I am so sure that Gin is scum?

read this game

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=61419

Gin is doing the exact same thing here. Taunting me for being unable to lynch him, accusing me of being egotistical (I explain in this game why it's a scumclaim and it's never been wrong), and posturing all over the place.
I'm an arrogant cheeky fuck as town and LMFAO at using a game I never played in to somehow justify a meta read? Fucking REALLY
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Post Post #1260 (isolation #263) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:36 am

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In post 1257, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1253, eagerSnake wrote:I mean I hate when people self vote as town

That's like taking your ball and going home because things didn't go your way
Good for you. I tried to get Gin lynched but people wouldn't go for it. Gin will make it to endgame if you don't hardclaim that you are vigging him. do it.
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #264) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:37 am

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In post 1261, RadiantCowbells wrote:If I am alive in this game at some point when Gin is dead you will find out.
scum don't have legit reads
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #265) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:38 am

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You can't have your cake and eat it too sweetheart. You have to participate if you want people to side with you.
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Post Post #1269 (isolation #266) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:40 am

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I'm pretty sure no one will forget your incessant whining.

P-Edit: No you're sitting here going "Lynch Gin" people ask you why, you go "because I say so," that's fucking it.

You play the game by going "this post is blah, he is really doing this and this and it's bad blah blah"

You're just whining and that's all you're doing.
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Post Post #1271 (isolation #267) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:42 am

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Also the other reason you give reasons, is so people can TALK ABOUT THE REASONS.

They can tell you why you're wrong, or right and be either swayed or not. It's important to discuss shit because when you may think you're right about something, further discussion makes you realize that you were actually wrong.

It's only townie to talk things out, which is one thing you're not willing to do.
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #268) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:44 am

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Case in point, one of your reasons is using a game you played in but I'm pretty sure I didn't even have an account made while that game was played. So not only are you trying to meta me with a "false meta" but it comes from a game where I DIDN'T EVEN PLAY IN IT.
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #269) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:46 am

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Am I BBT? No. You can kindly go meta me in my only completed scum game on this site and that's the Hunger Games II, I'll even give a link.
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Post Post #1280 (isolation #270) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:47 am

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69088

I'm under Blawb and sign under /Gin

I'll later take over the account completely and just post as "Blawb"

Go ahead and meta me
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Post Post #1284 (isolation #271) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:50 am

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In post 1276, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's not a question of meta it's a question of the fact that your current play
only
comes from a scum mentality and I brought up a game where I called someone confscum for doing the exact same thing.
I think the issue here is is that I don't actually care about your opinion because you don't give me a reason to find it valid. Anyone else I find a valid opinion for I'll talk shit out. You just haven't given me the reason to do so and it's fucking evident when everyone says you're hard to or not willing to work with people.

So maybe you're going to give me shit continuously because I'm treating your slot as the joke you turned it into but when you fail to cooperate with anyone really, you can't expect others to try and work with you.


If you are truly town, back up a bit, calm down, go back to why you scum read me in the first place and try to justify it, lets talk it out.
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Post Post #1295 (isolation #272) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:05 am

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In post 1293, eagerSnake wrote:Tl Dr make scum work for that lynch

Don't deny town info by self voting, ergo taking your ball and going home

Make all 3 of them get on your wagon

Make themselves get out in the open
I once fought tooth and nail until I was lynched and got 4/6 scum on my wagon, that was Large 200 :p

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Post Post #1297 (isolation #273) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:08 am

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Radiant Darling, just talk to me in a normal voice. I don't listen to screaming, nor do I condone it.
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Post Post #1299 (isolation #274) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:10 am

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I will keep saying it, if you're town, slow down and let's discuss things. Go back to when you scum read most recently and lets discuss.
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #275) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:20 am

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In post 1304, RadiantCowbells wrote:hard chainsawed my top scumread,
What was this?
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Post Post #1308 (isolation #276) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:23 am

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So I was your top scum read when Infinity replaced in and then after Infinity replaced in you said I was no longer a town read but a scum read?
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Post Post #1312 (isolation #277) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:25 am

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In post 1311, RadiantCowbells wrote:That's lying about the gamestate. I had you as prob!town then you made a post I didn't like and then I reread your posting and decided that I was very likely wrong about you then your reaction proved it.
When is prob!town the same as top scum read?
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Post Post #1314 (isolation #278) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:26 am

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How can Infinity "chainsaw" me as "myself being your top scum read" when you just said I was "prob!town"?
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Post Post #1318 (isolation #279) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:31 am

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So you're doing associative tells before flips?

And you scum read me for dicking around making a couple jokes?
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Post Post #1319 (isolation #280) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:32 am

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In post 1317, RadiantCowbells wrote:I can't explain to you why you're wrong because your case on me is literally entirely null and anyone could point that out. Unless you want me to say 'nope that's not a scum rc thing' to everything, which is what I did.
You could at least try to explain. At like at least try to explain anything
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #281) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:33 am

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My favorite part was when you brought up the thing with BBT, you finally brought it up, proved it wrong, and now that's one less thing for you to accuse against me. You'll soon realize every reason you have to scum read me is unjustifiable once discussed.
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Post Post #1327 (isolation #282) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:40 am

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So what posts did you find scummy again Radiant?
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Post Post #1331 (isolation #283) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:44 am

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In post 1327, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:So what posts did you find scummy again Radiant?
Can you seriously not answer a simple question?
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #284) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:46 am

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In post 1332, RadiantCowbells wrote:I intend at some point to compile a coherent case on why you are scum. I am not going to answer you every time you ask until I have done so.
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #285) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:47 am

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but like, why can't you at memory say why you scum read me?
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Post Post #1339 (isolation #286) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:51 am

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In post 1337, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh right I actually forgot about that. At the time I thought he was distracting from RagingSpammers but I don't think that's the case anymore.
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Post Post #1345 (isolation #287) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:09 pm

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Explain why they're not scum indacative
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #288) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:17 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #289) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:19 pm

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Unless something urgent comes up I'll wait a bit a place my vote again
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #290) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:22 pm

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So RC, meta against you is useless?

So the best thing for me to do is just judge your slot but the actions in this game and this game only?
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Post Post #1362 (isolation #291) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:26 pm

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In post 1361, RadiantCowbells wrote:No I think meta is literally the only way you will ever catch me considering that when I play on secret alts I am virtually untouchable as scum.

This is just poor use of meta.
Okay maybe it's because so much in the day was said but did you say meta against you was useless as you do stuff as either alignment?
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #292) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:29 pm

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So what makes a meta effective or ineffective against you?
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #293) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:48 pm

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In post 1365, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1139, Infinity 324 wrote:Wait

FA, cakez, leon, and others all apparently believe scum would claim vig early on d1 with no pressure on them

what am I missing
Gin you were in this group dude
huh?
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #294) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:51 pm

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So you go off of phrasing? As in saying "Banana's are the root of all evil," leads scum?
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Post Post #1375 (isolation #295) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:55 pm

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In post 1373, Infinity 324 wrote:Why did you scumread eager after he claimed vig on page 11
I'd have to go look but if I had to guess what old me was thinking, it would be along the lines of believing the claim or at least letting the claim live due to the hypocrisy it would ensue in myself claiming vig and still being lynched D1.

After that I probably slowly turned my scum read into a town read.

Will report back for accuracy
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #296) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:56 pm

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In post 1374, RadiantCowbells wrote:No, not all meta reads on me are phrasing. That one is though. Like FA as scum would always say 'GET OUT OF HERE' regular as clockwork when pushed on and never as town.
So that's why you thought I was scum for saying "You have an ego problem?"
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Post Post #1377 (isolation #297) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:58 pm

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I never posted on page 11? Also I was voting with eager on N_M with the VC on page 12
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #298) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:01 pm

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I mean.. it's not like I quoted where you had an ego...
In post 982, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Spoiler: All posts boasting ego
In post 137, Elsa and Anna wrote:You know that in like about 50 games on MS you are the only one who ever mislynched me as town and RC is the only one who ever lynched me when I was scum?

[and yeah I got lynched twice in 50 games on MS.]

But yeah Me/Elsa and my Frozen Icy things are kindda famous around here on MS. You are to shy to be in the community a lot :]

and stop calling me game thrower. Your play in that game was absoloute trash and I was just testing your unlynchable shit as my masonary suggested. You policy lynched me in lylo cause you were angry at me criticizing your play instead of playing - I was really tired and it was a busy regular wednsday so yeah

#Elsa
In post 140, Elsa and Anna wrote:WHAT

ARE YOU ALL JEALOUS?

I AM A CELEBRITY AROUND HERE >.>

#Elsa
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~Anna
In post 542, Elsa and Anna wrote:Thats totally cool by me

You will just remove a wifomy slot (too good to be true), confirm yourself and I will rest in peace knowing I'm in one less mafia game and colser to my retirement day :]

I'm zoe , town friendly neighbor (massenger) - you have the gun so you force people to claim.

shrugs!

show me your accuracy

I never misvigged in my past 50 games on MS and a lot of games out of it :] the only time I had investigative (a tracker) I got double guilties in row

I never got mislynched in a day beside lylo - and the honor was massive's. the only other time that I got lynched (and I was scum) RC used an RL tell. Thats the total summery of my lynch status.

Now. why in the fucking earth anyone as shit as you are dare to criticize my game play? I'm retirying for a good reason. :]

#Elsa
In post 582, Elsa and Anna wrote:
In post 578, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 558, Elsa and Anna wrote:I never lost a single scum game beside the one that I was lynched in and another one when I was a jester in a setup full of confirmed guilties!

As town - beside large theme games that I still have a great read ratio in them - I have way upper than 50% winrate.

the last time I had a vig, i lead a lynch on one scum nd shot the other that night to end the game N1. (and I did this both times I had vig variants)

you are a vig I think :] show your skill and we will compare our status post game

#Elsa
I'm not perfect, neither are you. I've shot townies. I've lynched townies. I've been pocketed by scum (untrod tripod in blood in the streets mafia) which caused game loss, but I did nail scum the other scum d1 and n1. But usually, I am pretty good on my reads. Usually, I'm also pretty easy to read as town once I really start explaining my POV. But I am misread a lot at first. I've also never lost a scum game, but I think that's only because I make people underestimate me, as I'm actually quite obvscum imo.

I also don't like answering a bunch of questions when I'm town and being accused as scum because of it, esp when there's others like NM in the game doing fuck all. I see it like "damnit now I gotta answer all these fucking questions when what I really want to be doing is re-reading the game to find scum."

But, instead of dick measuring, I think it'd be best to work together to win. We still have plenty of days left until EOD, I don't think it was necessary for you to claim immediately just because I said I was going to shoot you. You could've just made me see you as town instead of claiming. But I feel like you probably feel the same way I feel as far as having to answer to bunch of bullshit as town
Just last thing before logging off. No you strated comparing game skills after me saying you suck and I gave you completly accurate statics. Its based on about 50 games on MS and around 40 games out of it on 2 different sites.

I was vig 3 times and never misshot.

and well not exactly. I never dodged any questions. Te point is you never asked one from me :] You concern about my slot was that I pushed you so yeah, You have the gun now, you treathened to vig I claimed. next time don't do that if you have still room for evaluation and your not expecting a claim :]

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Post Post #1382 (isolation #299) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:02 pm

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I never said you had an ego thinking you were going to lynch me, I said there was an ego in thinking you were a god among men in general.
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Post Post #1383 (isolation #300) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:03 pm

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In post 1380, Infinity 324 wrote:PEdit: well he claimed before you pushed him or at least very strongly softed by saying he'd vig n_m on page 11, did you not notice?
If he softed or crumbed, I don't pick up on it. I'm so freaking blind to those things lol
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Post Post #1387 (isolation #301) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:06 pm

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In post 1385, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 259, eagerSnake wrote:Don't worry, Not_Mafia is getting vigged tonight.
When was I voting eager on page 11? Where was my post?
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #302) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:11 pm

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In post 419, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:gun to head Snake is town.
I went from page 11 to until I gave an alignment statement about eager and this is what I found.

So?
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Post Post #1392 (isolation #303) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:13 pm

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I never claimed Vig?
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #304) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:15 pm

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I'll let you go read the thread to figure that one out lol
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #305) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:19 pm

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Spoiler: Well Look again!
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Post Post #1402 (isolation #306) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:22 pm

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Radiant, if you're going to push me saying I called you for having an ego "for pushing me." You'll have to acknowledge that I said that for the reasons below. I'm not letting you scum read me for things that can be proven wrong.
In post 1381, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I mean.. it's not like I quoted where you had an ego...
In post 982, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Spoiler: All posts boasting ego
In post 137, Elsa and Anna wrote:You know that in like about 50 games on MS you are the only one who ever mislynched me as town and RC is the only one who ever lynched me when I was scum?

[and yeah I got lynched twice in 50 games on MS.]

But yeah Me/Elsa and my Frozen Icy things are kindda famous around here on MS. You are to shy to be in the community a lot :]

and stop calling me game thrower. Your play in that game was absoloute trash and I was just testing your unlynchable shit as my masonary suggested. You policy lynched me in lylo cause you were angry at me criticizing your play instead of playing - I was really tired and it was a busy regular wednsday so yeah

#Elsa
In post 140, Elsa and Anna wrote:WHAT

ARE YOU ALL JEALOUS?

I AM A CELEBRITY AROUND HERE >.>

#Elsa
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~Anna
In post 542, Elsa and Anna wrote:Thats totally cool by me

You will just remove a wifomy slot (too good to be true), confirm yourself and I will rest in peace knowing I'm in one less mafia game and colser to my retirement day :]

I'm zoe , town friendly neighbor (massenger) - you have the gun so you force people to claim.

shrugs!

show me your accuracy

I never misvigged in my past 50 games on MS and a lot of games out of it :] the only time I had investigative (a tracker) I got double guilties in row

I never got mislynched in a day beside lylo - and the honor was massive's. the only other time that I got lynched (and I was scum) RC used an RL tell. Thats the total summery of my lynch status.

Now. why in the fucking earth anyone as shit as you are dare to criticize my game play? I'm retirying for a good reason. :]

#Elsa
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In post 578, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 558, Elsa and Anna wrote:I never lost a single scum game beside the one that I was lynched in and another one when I was a jester in a setup full of confirmed guilties!

As town - beside large theme games that I still have a great read ratio in them - I have way upper than 50% winrate.

the last time I had a vig, i lead a lynch on one scum nd shot the other that night to end the game N1. (and I did this both times I had vig variants)

you are a vig I think :] show your skill and we will compare our status post game

#Elsa
I'm not perfect, neither are you. I've shot townies. I've lynched townies. I've been pocketed by scum (untrod tripod in blood in the streets mafia) which caused game loss, but I did nail scum the other scum d1 and n1. But usually, I am pretty good on my reads. Usually, I'm also pretty easy to read as town once I really start explaining my POV. But I am misread a lot at first. I've also never lost a scum game, but I think that's only because I make people underestimate me, as I'm actually quite obvscum imo.

I also don't like answering a bunch of questions when I'm town and being accused as scum because of it, esp when there's others like NM in the game doing fuck all. I see it like "damnit now I gotta answer all these fucking questions when what I really want to be doing is re-reading the game to find scum."

But, instead of dick measuring, I think it'd be best to work together to win. We still have plenty of days left until EOD, I don't think it was necessary for you to claim immediately just because I said I was going to shoot you. You could've just made me see you as town instead of claiming. But I feel like you probably feel the same way I feel as far as having to answer to bunch of bullshit as town
Just last thing before logging off. No you strated comparing game skills after me saying you suck and I gave you completly accurate statics. Its based on about 50 games on MS and around 40 games out of it on 2 different sites.

I was vig 3 times and never misshot.

and well not exactly. I never dodged any questions. Te point is you never asked one from me :] You concern about my slot was that I pushed you so yeah, You have the gun now, you treathened to vig I claimed. next time don't do that if you have still room for evaluation and your not expecting a claim :]

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Post Post #1405 (isolation #307) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:23 pm

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Infinity, if it's not obvious that I can't find it, please illuminate the path so I can see it.
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Post Post #1412 (isolation #308) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:29 pm

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Oh yeah! Yeah I was yelling at Alisae for purposefully playing bad or not playing to improve. Then she ticked me off calling calling eager lynch bait and that was probably the catalyst as to why my vote moved
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #309) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:34 pm

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Basically "OMGUS" yeah that's not a misrep.
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Post Post #1417 (isolation #310) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:35 pm

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Only voted for E&A/RC after RC faked a guilty so fuck off with that misrep
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Post Post #1420 (isolation #311) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:39 pm

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I never played with RC before, I know nothing, she said in the thread that she faked claim guilties before so when she did it, I knew she was lying. I still don't condone lying :)

I will always find it scummy or worthy of blacklisting a player who uses fake guilties as a means to lynch a player :)
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Post Post #1423 (isolation #312) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:45 pm

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You did it this game
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #313) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:46 pm

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In post 1233, RadiantCowbells wrote:I claim 1-shot daycop with a guilty on Gin.
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Post Post #1480 (isolation #314) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:06 am

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Interestingly enough, my only scum game has been in a hydra.

I'm pretty sure I linked it this game.
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Post Post #1481 (isolation #315) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:06 am

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Bloop :)
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I'm under Blawb and sign under /Gin

I'll later take over the account completely and just post as "Blawb"

Go ahead and meta me
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #316) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:09 am

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Post Post #1483 (isolation #317) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:09 am

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I thank Cakez for the compliment, the only thing tho that I'd surmise is to not fucking trust me with a cop shot in MyLo :lol:
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Post Post #1486 (isolation #318) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:43 am

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All ongoing eager
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Post Post #1487 (isolation #319) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:44 am

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In post 1484, Infinity 324 wrote:Where are you at with reads now?
I'll have reads and a vote around Thursday, i'm too busy IRL atm
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Post Post #1490 (isolation #320) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:26 am

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Cakez, did you have the alignments when you were spectating that game?
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Post Post #1492 (isolation #321) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:36 am

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Literally any finished game on my solo account
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #322) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:37 am

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Post Post #1497 (isolation #323) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:56 am

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Do you think it's fair to assume reads have to be concrete on D1?

Also if I haven't made another reads list, then the last one I made would be the most up to date, starting from memory/no review of thread, then it would be what I have below.

Spoiler: Old Reads
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In post 640, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Town
{eagerSnake, RagingSpammers}
{lane0168 ,Not_Mafia, Leonshade}
{Ælla Was Spine, Elsa and Anna}
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Null {, Flubbernugget, massive}
{SirCakez, MagnaofIllusion}
{ProHawk}
Scum
Needs Review on placement:

lane, Leon
*Any on/under null*


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{Infinity324, lane0168}
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Post Post #1503 (isolation #324) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:28 am

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In post 1501, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1498, massive wrote:
In post 1459, Infinity 324 wrote:I will say that gin could be opportunistic scum. But he'd have to be essentially a god scum to be scum this game so I prefer to wait and see if he gets NKed. Like its so unlikely he's able to fake convincing paranoia, convincing efforts to get the game going, good questions, etc.
How long would you like to wait to see if he gets NKed? Because, off the top of my head, I'd kill the vig, RC, and then maybe even the other claimed rolecop just for WIFOM fun before I'd kill Gin. Why is that an important part of your current feelings about Gin?
It depends whether the other kills make sense given the circumstances. But I think gin is a strong enough townread for most players that I'd be suspicious if he was still alive in the late game.
Oh yeah no, this is a shit thing to say.

I can be the most town read but if my reads are shit, scum will keep me alive so I can keep pushing the wrong lynches.

Example, Hungergames, we kept a town inventor alive, a basically conf!town but was really just the highest town read, and a game manipulator that was widely town read and we took them to MyLo and used all 3 of those to drive home the game winning lynch because frankly, we were able to use their current reads to sway the game into our favor.

So no, your theory, at best is a WIFOM case and a shoddy reason to, if you actually do, vote someone late game.
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Post Post #1504 (isolation #325) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:31 am

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I do have a question not relating to me actually, have you given an opinion on Cakez yet?
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #326) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:43 am

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In post 1506, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1503, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:So no, your theory, at best is a WIFOM case and a shoddy reason to, if you actually do, vote someone late game.
Maybe, it's one piece to the puzzle.

Do you think it's scummy? Do you think my suspicion of you is scummy or town paranoia?
It's your wording of it that I don't actually like. What I find scummy is that you would base suspicions on a player just because they made it to LyLo.

I tried typing a scenario where I believe it would be town paranoia but honestly, the only times I remember or expect those thoughts are when players are actually IN LyLo.

I just find it extremely odd for you to be talking about me being in LyLo when it's so far away.
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Post Post #1514 (isolation #327) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:57 am

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In post 1508, Infinity 324 wrote:Gin, I missed your most recent reads list, but I guess I just haven't seen much of a read progression from you throughout the game. You suspect spammers when everyone else does, you jump on the eager wagon, you pull out the prohawk read out of nowhere and then you suddenly have a scumread on massive right when spammers asks about it. That's my issue I guess.
I have an ongoing history with Alisae and I think it's null at best to describe my constant back and forth about whatever slot Alisae is playing in. Also, you can pile me into the group of "suspecting spammers when everyone else does," but that doesn't allow you to do two things; 1) Say that I am exclusively scummy for suspecting RS but no one else is, and 2) Not acknowledge the fact that I have been one of the main aggressors on Alisae, so much so that Alisae is fucking annoyed by my persistent questioning.

Another thing I'm not following in your logic is how you're now first accusing me of sheeping wagons and also say I "pull out the prohawk read out of nowhere," which, if anything, would counter your argument you just previously made by showing I'm not sheeping the crowd but I am actively trying to solve each slot in the game, regardless of the game state.

Also, I stated I had suspicions on massive for having an ISO similar to prohawk but reading massive's ISO actually made me doubt my prohawk read for them being so similar.

All these things I've said are laid out and said crystal clear in the thread.
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You replaced in yesterday, I'm EST and it was 5:30am for me, just woke up and woke up early because I had to make a presentation for a class I had at 8am. I decided to dick around the thread while also doing my presentation(bad idea, this game is distracting). Didn't really have the luxury time to drill down onto you and plus, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to give a slot a grace period when they just replace in to see what they're worth because it's not uncommon for players to replace into a scummy slot and make it be town read hardcore.
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #328) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:04 am

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In post 1513, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1446, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 640, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Town
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@Gin Why is lane so high?
Well for a bad and good reason it's mostly an early game read.

The bad reason is that he town read me early on and was like "Oh this guy is smart, I like that"

I then pressed my concerns that I'm weak to being buddied and showed an example of actually being buddied for a loss and lane then explained why he town read me and what he did and did not agree with showing that he wasn't actually just going to sheep my reads or buddy me.

Also I stated in my reads list that he was part of the people I needed to re-evaluate. Again, I'm super fucking transparent about my actions. These questions don't make sense in the context that they're already answered if you go do a little digging.
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #329) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:08 am

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In post 1497, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:New reads would be
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Scum

This reads list right here looks to be like I have two below the line scum reads and 3 on null with the rest of the town being high or low town leans.

I'm missing the point you're trying to make because it's non-existent
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #330) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:10 am

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In post 1521, Infinity 324 wrote:Vote me bitch
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Post Post #1525 (isolation #331) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:13 am

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What was the person of saying "vote me bitch"?
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #332) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:14 am

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In post 1525, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:What was the purpose of saying "vote me bitch"?
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #333) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:37 am

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Did I not fucking say I'm not voting till Thursday?
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #334) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:14 am

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I'm noticing a trend that Infinity asks questions that can be answered by simply going back and reading the thread
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #335) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:23 pm

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You mean ask you to do stuff in real time?
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Post Post #1591 (isolation #336) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:51 pm

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In post 1590, Flubbernugget wrote:I've never enjoyed watching someone get ripped a new asshole over a forum game as much as I am right now

This is glorious
What is this referring too? Lmao
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Post Post #1617 (isolation #337) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:30 am

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In post 1613, RadiantCowbells wrote:Gin is obviously highly confident in his scumplay and it shows this game. I don't think he fully understood how big of a threat that me and FA were. Slightly less threatening as town without FA but I'll do my best.
Entire case revolves around ego

That or you're tunneling because you can't actually produce reads

It's not like scum has never tunneled a townie so they don't have to do jackshit that game.

It sounds true when people ask you for reads and you actually don't say anything and keep saying lynch gin with no reasons than "Gin didn't realize he should fear me"
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Post Post #1618 (isolation #338) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:32 am

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Also I backed down because people told me it was NAI because you did it every game, not because of you as a player, but nice misrep of the events of the game to spin a narrative that shines you in the lime light.
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #339) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:37 am

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In post 1605, RadiantCowbells wrote:Let's hurry up the gradual realization that Gin is a scumfuck and let's see some votes amirite.
Also I'm going to keep pointing out what I see.

The tone here sounds fake with the words of using "gradual' and "amirite."

If you truly thought I was scum, you'd be giving reasons why I'm scum, you'd show how X leads to Y meaning I'm scum, and you wouldn't make it casual and almost a whimsical tone in telling people to vote me.
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Post Post #1621 (isolation #340) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:42 am

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In post 1609, Infinity 324 wrote:@gin Can you elaborate more on why you refrained from voting RC until he said he had a guilty on you?
Well, just because someone suddenly scumreads me, it doesn't mean I have to vote them and argue with them, I can argue what their scum read is without also trying to kill them.

It's only when she produced the guilty that it's either scum or she's lying as town to push something she legit doesn't know and I'm blacklisting because I don't play with people doing moves that are unethical. Pushing a mislynch on the grounds of fake information will always be worthy of a vote.
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Post Post #1624 (isolation #341) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:47 am

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Also I held onto the thing that they were a friendly neighbor, once it was conf! that they were in no way able to prove they were actually town through the ability, she's back to being a toss up like anyone else.

Infinity, it was purposefully producing fake information to produce a case. RC was an angry little demon yesterday, if she meant it as a joke then that would imply she was actually cool headed during all that and was faking everything.
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Post Post #1625 (isolation #342) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:57 am

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So Infinity, you have any more questions asking me about how my reads do or do not change when things happen in this game or not?
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #343) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:04 am

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How about a simple, I didn't take it as a joke. What a concept a matter of perspective is. Realize how upset I would have been if people were about to take it seriously and be mislynched because of some arrogant fuck thinking they're a some demigod.
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Post Post #1631 (isolation #344) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:10 am

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Infinity I want your fucking readlist. All you do is ask people for reads and then ask questions about it. What are YOU thinking for once?
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #345) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:20 am

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Infinity, I'd like to make the comment that I notice a trend in you making an accusation when discussing things but like to trail off at the end saying "although it could mean blah blah."

Would you say that's a baseless accusation?
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Post Post #1642 (isolation #346) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:17 am

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If we mass claim, both N_M and I can check players out for validity. I can see the plan having merit, do I think it's a good idea, don't know yet.
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Post Post #1644 (isolation #347) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:23 am

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In post 1643, Infinity 324 wrote: It's not unlikely that we have 1-2 very powerful roles we want to keep hidden.
Also this which makes me not want to do it
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Post Post #1648 (isolation #348) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:38 am

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Well a mafia goon will show up as a VT, or at least the wiki says that's how it would appear. The only thing I could check is if they were lying about claiming VT with their PR.
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Post Post #1653 (isolation #349) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:44 am

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In post 0, TellTaleHeart wrote:
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Spoiler: Still Breathing Fire (13)
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Post Post #1654 (isolation #350) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:45 am

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Don't know why that quoted that but anyways

If we mass claim, no one can really lie about their role because N_M and I can check, correct?
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Post Post #1662 (isolation #351) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:01 am

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miller, ascetic, stuff like that. Otherwise if you're protective/investigative you hold cards close to chest.
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Post Post #1675 (isolation #352) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:02 am

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In post 1673, eagerSnake wrote:I think not wanting to mass claim and the openly opposing it is blatantly anti-town in this situation

VOTE: MoI
This is a bad vote
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Post Post #1679 (isolation #353) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:07 am

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I mean I'm still on the fence about it myself and I'm the bloody role cop
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Post Post #1683 (isolation #354) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:11 am

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So eager, what happens if there is a Mafia Doctor? What then?
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Post Post #1690 (isolation #355) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:17 am

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In post 1687, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 1683, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:So eager, what happens if there is a Mafia Doctor? What then?
I highly doubt that's something we should be worrying about and this question pings me pretty hard tbh
How?

We're talking about mass claiming and you're ready to set up pushes based on what people claim. Have you never actually played against a Mafia Doctor as they are in fact a thing.
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Post Post #1691 (isolation #356) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:19 am

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I'll get you a game when I can find it but Mastina actually won a freaking game as Mafia because she was able to claim Maf/Doc
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Post Post #1693 (isolation #357) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:23 am

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do a pro/cons on mass claiming
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Post Post #1696 (isolation #358) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:31 am

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Then I would say this game isn't balanced and broken
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #359) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:52 am

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In post 1699, lane0168 wrote:Alisae has ~100 posts elsewhere since her last post here. Was pretty active here when being pushed. Absent since pressure relieved. Wonder where that slot is
I'm not saying my main concern about that slot is Alisae is a spam god and should have the highest post count no matter what and post useless shit but judging from the actions I still lean town.

I have my theories on why there is less activity but I'll wait for Alisae to say why there is a drop from the usual so I don't give out excuses.

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Post Post #1707 (isolation #360) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:57 am

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In post 1706, eagerSnake wrote:VOTE: gin
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Post Post #1709 (isolation #361) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:00 am

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In post 1036, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:STOP SAYING PEOPLE ARE SCUM BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH YOU. THATS BAD PLAY
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Post Post #1713 (isolation #362) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:06 am

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In post 1710, eagerSnake wrote:You're not gonna be alive tomorrow

Not even your mafia doctor can save you from spyro!!!

On what grounds besides you acting like a child not getting what he wants?
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #363) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:07 am

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In post 1710, eagerSnake wrote:You're not gonna be alive tomorrow

Not even your mafia doctor can save you from spyro!!!
Are you saying you can kill me even if I have a doctor on me?
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #364) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:09 am

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Strongmans are scum aligned.
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Post Post #1719 (isolation #365) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:12 am

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When the fuck is a town vig ever a strongman?
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Post Post #1721 (isolation #366) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:12 am

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That was a hypothetical you fucking twit
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Post Post #1724 (isolation #367) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:15 am

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I'm taking strongman as a full on scum claim. There is no way I tell you why your theory is shit in a role madness and you use that as a reason to out that you're a strongman.

VOTE: eager
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #368) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:16 am

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Why vote me if you can shoot me?
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Post Post #1728 (isolation #369) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:19 am

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Actually, let's look at what's up.

You claim strongman, a role that can kill regardless of healing or protection.

You also advocate for a mass claim where no one is allowed to lie because of the two role cops in this game.

What does this allow you to do? It allows you to use the strongman on the most powerful roles and clean them up so you don't have to deal with them.

Fuck off.
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Post Post #1729 (isolation #370) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:19 am

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STRONGMAN=SCUM
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Post Post #1732 (isolation #371) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:21 am

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The bitch said he's a strongman, look at it from my perspective
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #372) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:21 am

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Tell me strongman is town aligned and fucking prove it
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Post Post #1736 (isolation #373) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:23 am

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In post 1735, Infinity 324 wrote:It's very unlikely that eager is in fact a strongman. He was fakeclaiming to up the pressure. Now unvote.
Did he say he was fakeclaiming? No he didn't.
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Post Post #1740 (isolation #374) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:25 am

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In post 1737, Infinity 324 wrote:Gin, why the fuck does scum strongman claim strongman? Your theory makes zero sense.
He's going under the guise of being "Vig"
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Post Post #1741 (isolation #375) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:26 am

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I am not unvoting until you prove to me that Strongman is town aligned
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Post Post #1744 (isolation #376) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:29 am

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HE'S CLAIMING TO SHOOT ANYONE THAT FUCKING DISAGREES WITH HIM. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT TOWN MOTIVATED
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Post Post #1747 (isolation #377) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:32 am

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So what the fuck do I do?

I got this dumb fuck of a "vig" that's going to shoot me because he doesn't get what he goddamn wants at the time when MULTIPLE PEOPLE TELL HIM FUCKING NO and is either going to shoot me tonight or lynch me today because he's fucking all powerful and no one gives a flying fuck that his reasons to kill people DO NOT COME FROM FUCKING TOWN.
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Post Post #1754 (isolation #378) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:37 am

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@Mod, I need to replace out. I'm not having fun this game at all at this point
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Post Post #1789 (isolation #379) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:45 am

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Not replaced yet and didn't plan on making comments but I didn't know this game was a role madness, MoI told me but I didnt know the extent to what that meant. Only saw Spryo theme and TTH hosting as to why I joined, my mistake for not looking deeply when I signed up.

I'm still replacing out because there is a toxicity level I just can't take. If I sign on and play an constantly get angry, there is no point in playing a match. There is no point in discussing anything like this till post game so talk to y'all then.
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Post Post #1873 (isolation #380) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:24 am

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Think big and I have played in games before. I am not banned, proof
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Post Post #2002 (isolation #381) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:25 pm

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Welp thats lynch and i wasn't replaced
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #382) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:25 pm

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Now I get to bitch
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Post Post #2006 (isolation #383) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:29 pm

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Okay eager, you're a fucking hypocritical idiot.

You claim strongman, a direct almost always scum aligned role and I throw out a hypothetical, "what if maf doc is a thing" and you go off of that without ever thinking of my fucking perspective. It's toxic to just throw a gun around thinking everyone has to bow before you. I can't fucking stand you or how you play.

At least with RC, she had an actual case thinking I did these "scum tells."

I was lynched off of me doing apparent "scum tells" and "scum slips" because people have the fucking audacity to think they are a scum hunting god when you're not.

Anyways, I want RC alive as a request for when I flip town, I don't care what you say, let her at least see D2.

As for Infinity, start up a wagon because I don't trust the slot.

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Post Post #2011 (isolation #384) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:32 pm

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Cakez, is my preference.

However, also think about who is prolly going to be ran up D2 after my flip and essentially make this a double day by eliminating who would be a possible mislynch even though they're a scummy player.

That'd be like cakez/Infinity/RC
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Post Post #2020 (isolation #385) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:35 pm

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Also, Alisae, I don't advocate a wagon on you or a shot but to be honest, you not posting has me really fucking worried.

Also I've been paying attention and reading in case I was lynched before replacement so i'm giving the opinions as up to date as can be.
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Post Post #2021 (isolation #386) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:35 pm

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Your slot is the RagingSpammers, and you haven't been spamming
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Post Post #2023 (isolation #387) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:36 pm

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Actually FlubberNugget could also be a worthy shot for being in eternal catch up, it feels town tho so really ISO him if you're going to go down that road.
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Post Post #2025 (isolation #388) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:38 pm

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If I'm scum, it's easy to say Infinity would be the one for hard defending me, if I was scum and someone hard defended me, it would more than likely be because I had some god scum role.

I don't know if it's a thing but I don't like the post where Infinity voted RC because RC voted me. That's like direct chainsaw shit.
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Post Post #2026 (isolation #389) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:38 pm

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If I'm town, well listen to what I just said earlier
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Post Post #2029 (isolation #390) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:41 pm

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In post 2027, Not_Mafia wrote:What's with the ifs?
People think I'm scum already and i'm going to be flipped anyways, I'm just having fun entertaining the thoughts of what I would be saying if I voted me lol
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Post Post #2030 (isolation #391) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:42 pm

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In post 2000, Ælla Was Spine wrote:
In post 1997, eagerSnake wrote:Start on page 68
The part where he was like "What if there's a mafia doctor" and you claim strongman right?


Im not paying enough attention to not believe it

VOTE: Gin
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Post Post #2031 (isolation #392) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:44 pm

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Alisae you might get this joke but I think I have a curse of getting lynched D1 whenever there is a Vig involved :lol:
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Post Post #2032 (isolation #393) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:45 pm

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So, any questions before I flip?
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Post Post #2036 (isolation #394) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:50 pm

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Oh you don't even know about emotions, I can talk about it now but I was fucking livid about Camn's Revenge http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69902

Conf!scum WIFOMS Fate to think conf!town me is scum and shoot conf!town because of the WIFOM the conf!scum was saying, in a game where we knew he was conf!scum and KNEW HE WAS WIFOMING US.

You can imagine the anger from dealing with almost a perfect game and having it pissed away down the drain, and then going to play this game and some Vig goes "haha you're fucked, imma shoot you now feller"
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Post Post #2047 (isolation #395) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:16 pm

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lane shhhh, let RC cry some tears so people buy the bullshit AtE.
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Post Post #2614 (isolation #396) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:20 pm

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In post 2613, Alisae wrote:Hey guys.
I have one question:
Why was I NEVER LYNCHED?
I KNOW
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Post Post #2616 (isolation #397) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:23 pm

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Okay, if I wasn't killed D1, I would have blasted you for your play when it came to the stuff where you were going how you were scum or some sorts. I don't know how that was gotten away with and would have pressed B to lynch.

Also, now that I know you were actually scum, it confirmed my suspicion that you talk completely different as scum than you do as town. Your manipulation was good, but you need to work on the formatting a little bit as there is in fact a noticeable difference in how you form your sentences.
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Post Post #2617 (isolation #398) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:24 pm

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Other than that, you played well as scum being able to read the players alive and their own reads and use that to gain an effective MyLo lynch in your favor.
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Post Post #2621 (isolation #399) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:27 pm

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Yeah, as town you're free flowing, the sentences run on and they're kinda big.

This game.
You were curt.
short sentences.
Never ;~;

Also the tone you had with me was off, when you said I was annoying you, it was unlike you to go along those lines because you're a cheerful person :P
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