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yeah go ahead and do thatIn post 10, Ranger wrote:Based on the wording in my PM, I'm pretty sure the mafia have a godfather, so our cop should be aiming to get guilties until we lynch that role.
I can clarify details if you'd prefer, but this was the important bit.
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'kay so we got this upick by rc, blitz 25 from a couple months ago.
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that's pretty scumsided...
the only town investigative is the motion detector so throwing a cop in here would be different. i guess rc could do cop/godfather combo ...? depending on who reviewed this.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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hm....In post 17, Ranger wrote:Basically, I'm too good to get a role, and I love being town, but my connection to scum as a competent scum player means that I show up as one. So I don't get to deceive everyone into thinking I'm a Free Will player when I'm not (this is the part that makes me think there's a godfather); instead, I get to be a Free Will player who others will think is a willbreaker.
(was the scummer me?)The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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well now i'm curious about what scummer you picked...In post 21, Ranger wrote:I'll tell you that I do admit, I was trying to game the system as to force RC to give me a town-aligned role of awesome power.
He figured it out.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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hahahahahahahahahaaahaaaaahhahaIn post 71, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:(can reviewers make a mod add a role?)
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why did it bother you that they were townreading me?In post 78, WhiteLight wrote:^ that was for antiheroThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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nopeIn post 76, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:Are you scumreading us, anti?The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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mods arent going to confirm a specific private communication.In post 77, WhiteLight wrote:I think the mod would answer
shotty was the "not going to flip bc sexual" stuff in your role pm?The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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because its something that might (?) explain why they went out of their way to pooh pooh your read on me.In post 86, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:
Why did you ask whitelight if they were?In post 83, Antihero wrote:
nopeIn post 76, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:Are you scumreading us, anti?
the whole exchange there rubs me the wrong way. it comes off to me as less a legitimate concern about either of our alignments and more of a kneejerk, butthurt reaction to you correctly townreading me for the "wrong" reasonsThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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at this point, i'm pretty certain it's a breakdown in communication and the "too sexual" thing is the flavor rc gave to accompany the self-janitor thing shotty is claiming.In post 142, Postie wrote:
Lynch all liars with no town motivation to lie and potential scum motivation, yes.In post 140, WhiteLight wrote:
Lynch all liars?In post 139, Postie wrote:Yes. There's no reason for him to lie about it as town.
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SHE ALREADY CLAIMED IN FULLIn post 171, Ircher wrote:3. 26 by Antihero - Asks who Ranger chose as scummer - I really don't like the rolefishing Anti has decided to do. - Scum-IndicativeThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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i read the threadIn post 17, Ranger wrote:
Well, basically.Antihero wrote:yeah go ahead and do that
I submitted as my first pick a scummer.
I got that scummer.
Basically, I'm too good to get a role, and I love being town, but my connection to scum as a competent scum player means that I show up as one. So I don't get to deceive everyone into thinking I'm a Free Will player when I'm not (this is the part that makes me think there's a godfather); instead, I get to be a Free Will player who others will think is a willbreaker.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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In post 17, Ranger wrote:Basically, I'm too good to get a role, and I love being town, but my connection to scum as a competent scum player means that I show up as one. So I don't get to deceive everyone into thinking I'm a Free Will player when I'm not (this is the part that makes me think there's a godfather); instead, I get to be a Free Will player who others will think is a willbreaker.In post 17, Ranger wrote:Basically, I'm too good to get a role, .In post 17, Ranger wrote:Basically, I'm too good to get a role, .
In post 17, Ranger wrote:Basically, I'm too good to get a role, .The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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noIn post 191, Postie wrote:Anti, do you have a read on Ircher?
and if i have a read i want to share, trust me, you'll knowThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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very useful, that meant the cop and the tracker and the jailkeeper couldn't touch whoever they targetedIn post 733, Ircher wrote:Loyal Rolestopper (Potiently useful, but ended up not being so),The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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noIn post 733, Ircher wrote:Town also has a Hated Doublevoter which is super dangerous.
just no
1) it made town lose a day
2) double voter is not that dangerousThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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my role was not "pretty powerful"In post 733, Ircher wrote:PR-wise, it was definitely townsided. (Your role was also pretty powerful).
the bus driver could've significantly helped town in 1 in a million situations. that does not mean my role was "very powerful."The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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it was pretty much a joat except i didn't know what any of the stuff did.
turns out:
1 of them told me how many scum there were (oooohhhhhhh, powerful)
1 of them let me have a 1-shot delayed version of someone else's power (came with the same baggage the originals came with, not that great)
1 of them was a bus driver
1 of them refilled shots (not sure who that's applicable to)
1 of them made everyone loved if they sang a song (couldn't use that after day 2, this really didn't have any effect on balance)The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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you are overestimating the power of rolesIn post 739, Ircher wrote:In post 737, Antihero wrote:
my role was not "pretty powerful"In post 733, Ircher wrote:PR-wise, it was definitely townsided. (Your role was also pretty powerful).
the bus driver could've significantly helped town in 1 in a million situations. that does not mean my role was "very powerful."
It definitely looks powerful.In post 738, Nahdia wrote:i honestly didn't understand ur role at all antihero. like, didn't know what i was reading.
there was a miniscule change i was going to find or kill scum with my roleThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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lolwat?In post 742, Ircher wrote:Effectively, RC made a 4p Scumteam in to a 2p scumteam with extra night abilities.
2?
how did it become 2?The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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EXACTLYIn post 743, Nahdia wrote:i mean, for a 8-4 is gonna need some strong town abilities. scum could have won after only two mislynches. that's pretty unforgiving. town just played well here in general.
the town ev for an 9:3 (fine, i won't count the voteless) mountainous is somewhere between 10-20%.
town needs a lot of power to level the playing field.
that's why town having a lot of power does not make the game townsided.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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no, that was NOT a death sentenceIn post 746, Ircher wrote:Then I got confirmed out of 4p as scum
it was a death sentence for YOU
because you were scummyThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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sorry if i sound really insufferably opinionated on this
but i am
i think the problem is that people THINK the ratios we conventionally run mafia games at (1 scum to ~3 to 4 town) is approximately balanced. and, in all fairness, it's intuitive. that's our convention so the ev should be somewhere near 50/50, right?
nope.
it's not.
it's ridiculously scum-sided.
but after town wins, people grumble about it being townsided. and when this happens, mods are faced with a dilemma: make a scumsided setup or face potentially getting fussed at after the game. it creates a site meta that pressures mods to make scumsided setups and that bothers me.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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