Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over
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Spoiler: Mini 1781 - Catchup Post
Spoiler stuff from me is required reading. No saying you missed something because it was in spoilers -- this is your warning.
Coincidentally, I'm modding Mini 1782, so if I ever write that, that's most likely why and more than likely it is supposed to go here.
With that, I'll start here:
UNVOTE:
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In post 144, Gorkington wrote:why were half of your points about the slot you replaced.
silly goose.
And that's a problem because?
The person I replaced did the most interesting stuff, that's all.-
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Let's see: RVS-ish vote.. Boring!
In post 95, Gorkington wrote:hi everyone.
i decided to suffer for the sake of my friends.
p-edit: lets stop being in rvs now.
fire assassin wagon please.
I already comment on the suffering part.
In post 97, Gorkington wrote:xkfyu wagon would also be acceptable based on two posts ive read this page.
choo choo chooose.
p-edit: yeah. i like either vote.
Please cite the posts you dislike...
In post 107, Gorkington wrote:
nope.In post 101, Fire Assassin wrote:So you think we should be pushing Davsto because he did a weird opening?
irrelephant.fire wrote:Why you not voting them?
your nahdiahydra push is also unconvincingly undedicated.
what happened to your conviction???!?!:Fire Assassin wrote:In post 95, Gorkington wrote:hi everyone.
i decided to.suffer for the sake of my friends
p-edit: lets stop being in rvs now.
fire assassin wagon please.
I think this suggests you got a mafia role card.
I think Fire brought up a good point by the fact you said I'd get extreme paranoi because of Davsto's weird opening, yet you never act upon it or elaborate.
In post 110, Gorkington wrote:fire assassin.
are you.
an alt?
if yes you should be ashamed, only cowards hide behind a mask.
but you should also tell me.
Ans this is relevant because? Also, people can do what they want; if they want to use an alt, so be it; it's not your place to criticize.
I can agree here, but not AI.
RVS banter.
In post 119, Gorkington wrote:
you will probably get treated worse if you go down this route.In post 117, androgybee wrote:Fire Assassin you've made me MAD. if you keep saying ew and acting like a cranky 5 year old, I'm going to start treating you like one
And again, not AI
In post 121, Gorkington wrote:hey nahdia.
i recently stopped playing mafia because people made games about drama.
how about.
you dont.
And more not AI.
In post 127, Gorkington wrote:
he seems like it.In post 122, Fire Assassin wrote:Gorkington, why you think Not Mafia is town lean?
hope that isnt troublesome.
Elaborate please & ty
In post 130, Gorkington wrote:
im alright.In post 123, Not_Mafia wrote:Hi Gorkington, I'm good, how are you?
hoping it stays that way yknow
want to vote fire assassin with me for arbitrary points/want to accept me buddying you right now?
Wth is this?!
In post 132, Gorkington wrote:aw but he seems like page 1 lynchbait that isnt gonna shake things loose.
Definitely. I disapprove of the wagon as it stands. Not for AI reasons; simply cuz its RVS but people stick to stuff.
In post 135, Gorkington wrote:uninvested early posting is hard to read.
True..... I also hate lurkers......
In post 138, Gorkington wrote:town and scum can both be lynchbait.
smudger's opening was awkward and easy to latch onto.
hes not saying much now and probably wont react until momentum has fizzled.
p-edit: pressure is only useful if people are here to be pressured by it, is a sexy point that i stand by earlygame.
No comment
In post 140, Gorkington wrote:you win this time.
Not AI
In post 144, Gorkington wrote:why were half of your points about the slot you replaced.
silly goose.
I just told you why. And that's not silly in a 6p game full of RVS banter.
In post 145, Gorkington wrote:if fire assassin is scum, odds of ircher being scum goes up slightly via my primal gut instinct.
And this makes sense because? Stop giving shallow reads.
In post 148, Gorkington wrote:i disagree and that focus is borderline boring.
dissect me.
i dare you.
maybe i'll even talk about my davsto comment in more detail if you impress me.
Nope, still rather boring. If anything, you simply strengthened my scumread of you.-
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I don't know too many of you. Radja modded Newbie 1682 which I was in, and Titus was in Mini 1769 which I replaced into D1. Mini 1763 recently finished -- I played with Not_Mafia there, and fyi: if we have any trace of that sort of nonsense that when on in that thread, I'm replacing out. So, pls, no nonsensical posts and/or irrelevant hangman. Smudger was also in N1682, but he was NK N1 and didn't post a lot. And that's everyone I know out of this playlist.-
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In post 153, Gorkington wrote:also ether, im very self-conscious about how close i am to being lynched right now.
can i request that fire assassin's vote be moved to its rightful place on nahdia hydra? it makes me nervous being L-5 :S
Srsly, pls dont make me metadive you. This just sounds so noobish & scummy.-
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In post 152, Gorkington wrote:meh, ircher is maybe town for the fervor and rigorous nature of last post.
p-edit: actually yeah ircher can be in the townpile.
also if im being frustrating, its probably for a reason.
I'm always town and I'm almost always mislynched . I've yet to play a single scumgame
Being town, esp, VT, all the time gets SO boring.... And then you have those lurkers who are impossible to lynch....l-
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In post 182, Xkfyu wrote:In post 179, Gorkington wrote:@xk, im getting bored with my own shtick. tell me about the three players in this game that you feel most confident about in either alignment direction.
I think androgyBee is probably town.
I was thinking that Davsto was town before he replaced out, but I'm more null on that slot now. I didn't really like how Ircher talked about almost nothing but his slot when he got here and I think his reasoning for voting you was pretty weak.
However, Maruchan's serious overstatement of your paranoia (which was clearly sarcasm) about being voted is my biggest concern right now.
UNVOTE: Smudger
VOTE: Maruchan
Did you miss my ISO of Gorkington? It seems like it.-
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In post 215, Iecerint wrote:Hi guys.
You matter to god.
But I haven't read anything. :[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
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Too bad. I'll probably bring it up eventually.-
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In post 240, Gorkington wrote:okay fire assassin you get some homework.
i want a readslist.
and i want you to give one sentence explanations for each read.
if you dont do this then you get to be the day one lynch.
Umm... Remind me what thelynchingcase was again?
My vote is for pressure:
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In post 241, Fire Assassin wrote:In post 203, Gorkington wrote:so heres fire assassin in a nutshell and why you should vote for him.
i) opening vote is on me.
starts as RVS.
he then tries to weirdly justify it with easy reasoning.
not a big deal, but it gave me gutfeels that he felt nervous about sitting on an unexplained vote, which feels scummy in my heart.
ii) transition onto nahdia/beeboy hydra is wonky and easy. he abandons the vote on me for what amounts to "these posts look weird" which is meh. what bothers me is that it feels like hes registered that im not an easy push at this point. specifics here being:
this is his follow-up to me ignoring his questions.fire wrote:I find this strange you have so many reads this early into the game.
I guess they are mostly 'leans' so, not really strong so its w/e.
where other people are prickled by me doing this, he backs off, hedges and waffles. it just doesnt seem like a real genuine "im trying to figure out who scum is"-reaction and instead just kind of looks to me like "how do i push someone and not get flack for it here/how do i explain what ive done so far in a way that wont get me in trouble?"
this does not look like a genuine reaction to someone hes voting/calling scummy.fire assassin wrote:You realize your hostility isn't going to help anyone read you right? Its all AtE, which can be either alignment. I am willing to have a conversation with you, but if all your going to do is throw emotional posts like this, we can't have a discussion and I will have to ignore you.
the entire mindset of this post just screams to me of scum not knowing how to deal with someone hardpushing them for reasons that they dont understand.In post 188, Fire Assassin wrote:Why does this sound like you are lining up both associations and lynches before we even have a single flip. This is disgusting on so many levels, its more likely to come from bad town than scum though.
im struggling a little trying to articulate exactly why this post is bothering me so much. i think its mostly that i cant see the town incentive in simultaneously hedging on calling me scummy/calling me bad town to discredit me without committing to pushing me. im kind of hoping if i draw attention to it, someone smarter than me will look at it and see what im seeing and put it into real words.
part of what also bugs me about this, is that he says "time to find scum!", calls me bad town, and then goes on to basically ask me a bunch of questions. does not feel like genuine scumhunting methinks.
there you go. having all of that time to make up these reasons really helped. thanks for letting me stall ircher.
Finally going to address this. Not breaking up quote just going in numbers...hope that won't confuse.
1) So you are just calling me weird. That isn't news to me. Meh
1. Weird isn't necessarily alignment-indicative, so ok here.
In post 241, Fire Assassin wrote:
2) You are not a easy push? I didn't realize this as all. Call me arrogant, but I think I can push whoever if I was scum. With different levels of success but still I could push you if I wanted to, but I was thinking I had good portion of you that I didn't need to look more at you. Your responses as of late have registered you as one my strongest town reads. Which I find funny.
2. This response just feels weird, but I'm gonna have to say null again here.
In post 241, Fire Assassin wrote:
3) I usually don't pressure people to answer my questions. If I do, I am interested if not I am genuinely just trying to create discussion or legitimately don't care. Glad you picked up on the last part, but me not trying to solve the game is different.
3. A meta thing in other words? If so, then null.
In post 241, Fire Assassin wrote:
4) How does it not look legitimate? They threw AtE at me, I still have them at null for it. The reaction was pretty over the top for them, but I could see it from either alignment. I want to go away from reading people by emotions, which is kind of my strong suit, going to try see reason based or some people call mechanical reads.
4. Another quirky behavior from you, but once again, appears to be a meta thing (actually, this suggests you are an alt).
In post 241, Fire Assassin wrote:
5) So you don't know how to put what you saw into words. Great. Don't know how this makes me scum, but again another great town tell.
And, another null thing.
[url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7821002#p7821002]post 241[/url], Fire Assassin wrote:
If this is all there is on me, I pray for the towns future.
Yeah, I think I'm back to Gork -- The case was half-fledged (I merely skimmed it when I joined the bandwagon) and everything Fire said in response makes all the points null.
VOTE: Gorkington
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In post 244, Xkfyu wrote:In post 223, androgybee wrote:^ ~Nahdia
also im kind of wishy-washy on my Xkfyu read tbh. i didn't out it since i wanted to talk it over with my other head but basically Xkfyu felt kind of different here from elsewhere ive played with him (kind of more jovial/peppy?) and i was sort of thinking it might be kind of an overcompensation for him not wanting to play scum so i kind of had a scumread on him? but catching up i did actually like his posts since i tended to agree with the things he was saying. but it's possible the points were really obvious ones to make. idk. wary of that slot in particular. just wanted to tack this one cuz it didn't really have any place in the catchup post
~Nahdia
I LOVE playing scum, by the way.
Scumclaim! Lol.-
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In post 251, Gorkington wrote:like seriously, im driving the biggest wagon in the game right now with the best-made case. tomorrow i'll pick at fire's response to it. and then i'll probably drive the game some more. does it bother you that youre impressively uninfluential when youre trying so hard while a buffoon who doesnt use proper grammar and posts sarcastically 90% of the time is?
That case was actually rather awful. I literally thought it would be decent and didnt bother to check the evidence.-
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In post 261, Gorkington wrote:is that self-assured bad-old-town or scum though not-maf? because the vitriol reads more like wrong than intentional to me.
also, in other news, aristo is slightly leaning town.
itd be awesome if this turned into a POE game.
PoE is great, but dont trust your gut to be right 100% of the time.-
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In post 281, Gorkington wrote:
this is probably the first and last time i will address a point wall, especially when it appears that youre more interested in attacking semantics over the nice juicy details of what i was talking about here.In post 241, Fire Assassin wrote:1) So you are just calling me weird. That isn't news to me. Meh
2) You are not a easy push? I didn't realize this as all. Call me arrogant, but I think I can push whoever if I was scum. With different levels of success but still I could push you if I wanted to, but I was thinking I had good portion of you that I didn't need to look more at you. Your responses as of late have registered you as one my strongest town reads. Which I find funny.
3) I usually don't pressure people to answer my questions. If I do, I am interested if not I am genuinely just trying to create discussion or legitimately don't care. Glad you picked up on the last part, but me not trying to solve the game is different.
4) How does it not look legitimate? They threw AtE at me, I still have them at null for it. The reaction was pretty over the top for them, but I could see it from either alignment. I want to go away from reading people by emotions, which is kind of my strong suit, going to try see reason based or some people call mechanical reads.
5) So you don't know how to put what you saw into words. Great. Don't know how this makes me scum, but again another great town tell.
dont really care about first three points. only thing i will say is that me saying im hard to push is probably admittedly just me being arrogant so that point was probably silly.
four is pretty bah. if youre voting for someone, it doesnt seem real that your response to them getting angry at you didnt have any measure of skepticism. like your response was 100% believing them and trying to defuse their anger. which is fair, but i think its more likely that youre scum having trouble dealing with the emotions than town in that reaction. like, i get that youve got this whole "im mechanically analyzing people"-thing going here, but i just dont believe it?
and five is actively awful. i put it into words and made other coherent points based around it, such as the fact that your supposed "scumhunting" was just asking me questions despite me being one of your biggest townreads.
sorry bub.
not convinced.
1. Is your case alignment-indicative? Not really.
2. Was the rebuttal alignment-indicative? Not really.
3. What's the motive behind Fire's posts? What evidence shows this motive?
4. What's the motive behind Gork's posts? What evidence shows this motive?
5. Is questioning scummy? No.
6. Is playing naturally scummy? No.
7. Is there another plausible explanation for the behavior? Almost always.
For future reference, consider questions like the above. You obviously failed to do so in your case and continue to be ignorant.
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In post 289, Not_Mafia wrote:Why are you giving your scumread play advice?
So he improves.
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In post 295, Gorkington wrote:
what happens if fire assassin flips scum?In post 290, Ircher wrote:Reads should be 85% objective and 15% subjective imo.
do you bow down to my greatness?
and call me your master?
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In post 308, Fire Assassin wrote:In post 307, Not_Mafia wrote:You and smudger, Ircher is my biggest townread
So you just thin Ircher is way off base then.....
I don't know how you connect Ircher being town to being more confident in this being a scum lynch.....
Those are weird connections.
I can buy it actually.-
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In post 323, Fire Assassin wrote:In post 322, Maruchan wrote:In post 249, Gorkington wrote:
oooo did you want me to double down on my cheeky bullshit? because you ignoring me actually giving content in the form of a case to continue this hilarious tirade against me having fun in this game is just amazing and you really are just incentivizing me at this point.maruchan wrote:Gorkington still has failed to respond to any question or request posed to him regarding his reads or changes of his reads, and just continues attempting to make snide humor comments, that fail to provide humor.
At the point in my read through I made that comment your case had not yet been made, and you still have avoided even acknowledging me or XK asking you about your reads on us. You've continued to blatantly ignore that.
In post 287, Ircher wrote:In post 251, Gorkington wrote:like seriously, im driving the biggest wagon in the game right now with the best-made case. tomorrow i'll pick at fire's response to it. and then i'll probably drive the game some more. does it bother you that youre impressively uninfluential when youre trying so hard while a buffoon who doesnt use proper grammar and posts sarcastically 90% of the time is?
That case was actually rather awful. I literally thought it would be decent and didnt bother to check the evidence.
Literally how is this town play.
"Oh I was too lazy to read the first case of the game ,but since it was the first case of the game, hey, I'll hop on it. BANDWAGGON AHOY".
THAT IS NOT TOWN PLAY.
I am sorry to tell you this, but people sheep wagons for awful reasoning all the time, and its often town. Scum sometimes do it, but usually they are worried about looking bad.
Is it pro town behavior to ignore the actual case? No
Is it anti town? Hell yes.
Is he scum? Id say I think he is trying to solve the game so that reads as town.
This is imo the way you go about reading people.
Scumtells imo are not really scumtells. Town do them about as often as scum do. What's more important is the underlying motive of posts.
And this is also where I ahem incorporate meta into this discussion: even if a player makes a lit of scumtells, etc., if that is what they do every game, its null. Aka, you read people based off their meta/playstyle rather than just lynch them for blantant "scum"tells.-
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In post 437, Maruchan wrote:In post 410, Ircher wrote:Spoiler: Mini 1781 - D1 Andro ISO
The Iso is way too shallow and too much null here.
I can support this counterwagon, for now.
VOTE: Andro
First you admit to not reading a case, before stating it is a solid case and sheeping it. Then you get all wishy washy with your votes. Then you post an ISO analysis that LITERALLY SAYS you have ONE null-slight scum and ONE null-slight town read, ending in an overall perfectly middle of the road 100% null read. And continue to say you support counter-wagoning this person.
If you had implied voting for pressure on them to provide more content, okay I'd understand. But you didn't. You literally expressed a willingness to run a lynch wagon on them. What the fuck. Either you're the worst scum player of all time, or you're blatantly not giving a fuck about this game at all. Either way, you need to be gone.VOTE: Ircher
That is incorrect. You missed the key part -- For Now; which implied that I was not sold on it. It's early in the Day.
I still don't like Gork, but you're a more pressing concern.
In post 414, Roshar wrote:@Maru, do you think if scum had an extra vote on them, (yet they're many votes away from a lynch) they'd freak out in the dt? If you'd argued wifom, that would be a diff matter, but that still wouldn't lead you to an alignment as it could go both ways.
So, maru, you admit that gorke turns everything into a joke, yet, you don't consider this to be one as well?
I think neither town nor scum would make a fuss in the way that Gork did about the vote. it felt faked as fuck. Before it was pointed out as sarcasm, i couldn't understand it, but Regardless of the way in which gork went about it, ANYBODY expressing a fear of votes is MORE likely to be scum than town. I don't think anybody would freak out in the day thread over that few votes. thats why i was so flabbergasted originally.
However, after being pointed out that the semi-joking sarcasm existed, it made MORE sense for scum to make a joke about extra votes on them, to cover up a legitimate worry about town roles with voting-impairing power roles or restrictions of some kind, in order to find out if the vote was legitimate or not. Personally, if I were in gork's shoes and saw an extra vote on myself and I was town, I'd not really care or I'd simply say "@Mod: is there an error in the votecount at all?" just to clarify. if no error, I would assume some form of town-sided vote-impairing power role (I've seen more townsided than scumsided roles that play with votes), and not say anything about it to hope scum don't notice. If error, I continue playing game and don't give a fuck. As scum, I would be worried about getting as much information about said vote-impairing power role as possible, so rather than just asking after errors, I would specifically ask about the extra vote of a specific person on myself.
Basically, the only way I could see myself acting as he did, in his shoes, is if I was scum. THATS why I thought it was scummy.
Do I think it is typical of EITHER town OR scum to freak out in the manner gork did over an extra vote on them when they have that few votes? Not at all. I just think the specific way he went about doing it seemed very scum oriented, in trying to cover up a legitimate worry about extra votes on himself. Yes, he did make a joke, No I don't think the joke was all the post contained. I think the joke was just covering up the fear of votes to try to draw attention away from it.-
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In post 540, Aristophanes wrote:Ircher, why vote Gork when assuming a scumclaim from Xk?
Or do you think the supposed scumclaim was a joke?
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In post 545, Aristophanes wrote:
Hey Gork, I have a theory.
Assassin/Ircher/Smudger scumteam.
Waddya think?
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In post 562, Maruchan wrote:so I had a huge long post, then the DOD Firewall temporarily blocking access to MS ate it.
Basically showed how ircher's two most recent posts are even worse, and we should all lynch him, and responded to iece's comment about davsto sayign davsto wasnt towny enough to outdo the scummyness or ircher, and pointed out how if davsto had been scum, it coudl explain his earlier claim of a non-plotinus role, as scum are less likely to worry, due to lack of probability of being night killed.
so yeah
ircherscum
lynch it with fire
he's literall y to lazy to even read the game or play it or give us a definitive time when he'll stop being lazy.
(also f you dod level enterprise server firewall)
I have a book to read actually by Friday,
The Once and Future King- Book 1: "The Sword and the Stone"
And, while I hate lurkers and admit I'm doing it right now, lurking by itself is not alignment indicative (exceot when done in excess imo)-
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"Low Hanging Fruit" - Uggh. Lurkers are not low hanging fruit fyi; they need to be pressured too (Im assuming you are referring to lurkers). Sure, scumreads are easy on them, but thats self-inflicted; dont blame the person who points it out.-
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@Mod
Interestingly enough, using scripts / macros / bots isn't against site rules... Unless its malware or does something against site rules ofc.
Still curious to how you can get the VC in within half-a-second resolution.
PS: This is totally off-topic-
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In post 669, androgybee wrote:
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Ircher I really hate that you've basically mucked up dav's slot with ur scummy posting. i was so ready to write him off as conf-town in the first few pages in the game -___-'
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Spoiler: Mini 1781 - X ISO
I have mixed feelings on this slot. A lot of stuff is just null stuff or simply responses, yet I see very little explanation of where X's reads come from.
In some ways, I'd support this lynch, yet at the same time, I feel the case for it isn't strong enough. Someone earlier mentioned a scumslip from this slot. I never saw one.
What I really would like are more specific reasons why this slot is scum, as I don't see anything that sways me one way or another right now.-
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I'm gonna sheep RC though cuz RC tends to be correct... when town.
VOTE: MinscL-1
Im serious about this vote. While I dont find the iso particularly scummy, there are a lot of null points and useless posts in it that I consider the lynch. Furthermore, RC is a strong player when town, so I think this is the best lynch atm.-
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