Mini 1771 - Legend of Zelda Mafia: Storm the Castle Endgame

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No. I am calling PK scum because he's telling me that I should have shot Toog while voting Dwlee. Then he jumps on the first town counter he can find.

X and Beeboy are town, just like Cakes was.

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Okay titus let's say toog's scum.
You think scum all jump on a counter and dare defy your will?

Yes, it's possible. Certain, no.

Considering all they have to do is sheep you and murder me, it's quite optimal since I am the one stopping you from lynching town PW, then town Cakes and now town X.

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Okay titus let's say toog's scum.
You think scum all jump on a counter and dare defy your will?

Yes, distract you now, lynch town, kill us. And then likely end game you all because you would be to busy bickering between yourselves.

Nobody listens to the dead, especially when scum has already drilled into your heads that we are some wrong bully. With all the, holding town hostage bs.

P.edit

Ninjad by Titus.

@Agreed, us trying to be teamplayers saved your buddy.
~Shiro

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No. I am calling PK scum because he's telling me that I should have shot Toog while voting Dwlee. Then he jumps on the first town counter he can find.

X and Beeboy are town, just like Cakes was.

If you wanted toog dead you should have stopped trying to negotiate some pact and shot him.

So basically you're simultaneously complaining I am an asshole ignoring everyone now, while griping about me including people in the process.

You're still dodging why you said I should have shot Toog while voting Dwlee.

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The @ was going to pisskop.

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Do you follow what I'm trying to say though?

Just vote Toog. Mirhawk you too.

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Like to the point where I think that everyone voting XK right now, regardless of XK's alignment, are obvtowned if toog is scum.

No. This is garbage. You want to pursue your same Lynch's after Toog flips scum. Unbelievable.

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Considering all they have to do is sheep you and murder me,

True.
But I think beeboy's turnaround on me was icky enough that he thinks he's gonna have some leverage tomorrow and I wanna know why.

If this was the issue, Beeboy would have jumped sooner at trying to plant doubts.

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Okay titus let's say toog's scum.
You think scum all jump on a counter and dare defy your will?

Yes, it's possible. Certain, no.

Considering all they have to do is sheep you and murder me, it's quite optimal since I am the one stopping you from lynching town PW, then town Cakes and now town X.

Why would scum pick Cleavage over Cookie if they were looking for someone to sheep? Titus randomly hard scumreads people for not agreeing with her and townreads anyone who does.

Bullshit. We mostly townread PW and Clevage who are being townbeards.

We scumread PK for being Toog's buddy.

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That's debatable.

No it's not. We're conftown.

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No. I am calling PK scum because he's telling me that I should have shot Toog while voting Dwlee. Then he jumps on the first town counter he can find.

X and Beeboy are town, just like Cakes was.

If you wanted toog dead you should have stopped trying to negotiate some pact and shot him.

So basically you're simultaneously complaining I am an asshole ignoring everyone now, while griping about me including people in the process.

You're still dodging why you said I should have shot Toog while voting Dwlee.

Well no. Ive already said I wanted you to stop lording your as-of-then unconfirmed power over us and use it to kill the person you wanted to. You choose to shoot somebody with no wagon on them.

Oh bullshit. Everyone agreed Ari should die, even Dave. We unvoted well before that indicating our other reads.

The fact there was no wagon on Ari didn't mean a lot of people were townreading him.

Posts like this garbage are why I insisted we wagon to L minus 1 and get a claim before we shoot.

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So let's see here.

Toog lies about being a VT.
Coasts through the first half of the day.
Still isn't posting about his scumreads but oopsie I lied.

And he's still not dead.

Why can't I get votes for this?

Oh right, town still wants to chase it's tail and be dumb rather than listen to conftown because Pisskop is too busy defending Toog.

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My issue with Toog is Fruit Vendor is soft confirmable <.<

Role =/= alignment.

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No he doesn't. Beeboy is likely town.

Toog isn't town.
Pisskop and Dave might as well be reincarnations of NY 191.

They need death.

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The last time I saw someone specifically say someone looked like a third party they were a third party themselves. So yeah that post from Xk was pretty susp.

General rule of thumb is that town don't actively hunt for third party, especially on Day 1. Scum, in order to look town, will hunt third party though, and in the past it used to actually be seen as a minor scum slip to claim to hunt third party early in the game.

P-Edit; Titus, afaik, I'm still the leading wagon. Stop being a Drama Queen.

Start pushing scum and stop whining.

I'm not being a drama queen to push through a lynch on scum.

You've dedicated far much more time to insulting me and goading me than scumhunting. If you're town (which you're not), shut up about me and fix this.

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cookie is throwing a tantrum because she/they cant get their way. And frankly Im losing my patience with it.

By the by...

This is the exact reason your predecessor left the game too.

Nah, Dave left because I wouldn't mislynch Cakey.

Dave had this exact type anger when I was tunnelling him (correctly in NY 191). He was just bitching about how Titus sucked and my reasons were shit. Check out the scum PT for that game.

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Much like how your name is spelled, I don't think many people really care about your opinion at the moment though.

This type of elitism only benefits scum. If Nahdia is town, we all want to hear her talk.

Of course, if it doesn't agree with what you want, it's ok to belittle players and ignore their arguments right? That's what passes for town play here right?

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cookie is throwing a tantrum because she/they cant get their way. And frankly Im losing my patience with it.

By the by...

This is the exact reason your predecessor left the game too.

Nah, Dave left because I wouldn't mislynch Cakey.

Dave had this exact type anger when I was tunnelling him (correctly in NY 191). He was just bitching about how Titus sucked and my reasons were shit. Check out the scum PT for that game.

Wasn't that NY 192?

No. Denmark game is 191.

192 was bleh with scum vigs that gave scum two KPN per night which was troloolol.

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No scratch that. 192 is where I was scum. 190 was troll scum vigs. My bad.

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Yeah, this lynch is landing on town.

Nahdia, X is town.

We should have shot Toog. Fuck working with people.

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Sure is a lot of scum in that beeboy wagon

No shit.

Join us on Toog.

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We could lynch the alleged fruit vendor that lied and claimed VT, or we could continue rolefishing.

Seriously, no one is townreading Toog and the ONLY reason he's not getting lynched is because of Toog and Pisskop personally attacking our attempts to work together.

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Yes,

distract you now

, lynch town, kill us. And then likely end game you all because you would be to busy bickering between yourselves.

Quoting myself with the first step accomplished by scum bolded.

Will quote myself again when you guys get played and hammer town.

Hopefulyl someone else will quote me again tommrow and bold the last part.

~Shiro

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Whats wrong with this wagon?

It is not on Toog

~Shiro

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Btw cakez, Apparently you are the only one whose abbilies appear to not have flavour to them. What gives ?It is really out of place. Mine had, Aris had and apparently beeboys as well.

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Considering my fla\/or is Zelda I don't want to fully claim because it could hint at another players role.

If you're talking about Link, we already know who that is.

Ya my role has 2 parts.
My first part is Role-Cop

I am worried the second part of my role could out a potential second part of Link's role (Sorry I had to say this much I don't want to get hammered lol)

What happened to the second part about Link?

How is it now that you are an X-Shot Cop too?

We got no concern.

Out what you have to.

~Titus and Shiro

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Whoa...it's starting to get late.

His role has two parts*

5:20 AM Here

~Shiro

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Whoa...it's starting to get late.

His role has two parts*

5:20 AM Here

~Shiro

Lol I guess I got no room to talk then.

~Shiro

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He is still claiming cop and something else connected to us.

What did he change ?

~Shiro

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The second part is a tri-force ability.
That is similar to links ability since he has a triforce (I assumed)

Triforce is ob\/ my stronger ability.

We don't have any triforce ability.

~Titus + Shiro

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The second part is a tri-force ability.
That is similar to links ability since he has a triforce (I assumed)

Triforce is ob\/ my stronger ability.

We don't have any triforce ability.

~Titus + Shiro

We do actully

~Shiro

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Apparently my flavor knowledge sucks and our vig is a triforce ability.

Beeboy is town.

~Titus

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Hey Toog, who is scum? Not Cakes. Not Beeboy. Probably not Nahdia. Not X. Probably not Clevage.

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He is town, I doubt it is a coincidence.

P.edit

Specifically that we could strongman at night. Flavoured as gathering our courage.

~Shiro

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That's the thing. He changed the second part of his role to something better than it was after his original claim didn't work. How are you not questioning that?

I have to agree with xk here.


all the townreads because of a claim is crapola

You are trying to save your strongest scum member toog, It is ok I get it

~Shiro

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@Toog, Based on flavor if guy who sounds a lot like Gandalf is part of this powerful group, it makes sense why you're so protected. You'd be the most powerful scum.

@Pisskop, Oh but don't ever touch Toog's claim... nope lying about VT and then claiming Fruit Vendor is ok. Clarifying a cop claim... forget it.

@PW, If that's the case, beeboy will have results for us or scum will have to park their block on him. Either way, that's a win for town.

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titus who do I vote?

Toog.

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cookies, whats you dayvog shot called?

Go Fish.

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cookies, whats you dayvog shot called?

Go Fish.

exactly. because it isnt related to the triforce, is it?

Go fish. I'm not answering that.

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He is town, I doubt it is a coincidence.

P.edit

Specifically that we could strongman at night. Flavoured as gathering our courage.

~Shiro

Except I already answered that pisskop.

Our Triforce was the choice to be Strongman at night flavoured as gathering our courage.

Our kill was the Master sword that also revealed us as link cause Master sword yo, nobody else wields that.

~Shiro

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Yea

I said the Master Sword

That is the name

~Shiro

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i still think the claim is rotten

Good for you

~Shiro

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We are townreading Beeboy.

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No one is townreading Toog.

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iso dwlee, tell me what you think

I already have.

His posts consist of zero content. Most people have said that this is normal for a town Dwlee.

He's had a whole bunch of town reads and very few scum reads. I've talked about this before, but no one cared then. So, why now?

Cause Toog is scum and the scumteam is flailing for a mislynch of last resort.

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I see Toog is still not lynched

Bravo town Bravo



~Shiro

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Well, I'd prefer to be the hammer vote, since I know I'm actually willing to lynch him, but it seems as though the wagon has stalled, and I'm not going to sit around and wait forever.

VOTE: Dwlee99

You guys are hopeless.


gg scum

~Shiro

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Well, I'd prefer to be the hammer vote, since I know I'm actually willing to lynch him, but it seems as though the wagon has stalled, and I'm not going to sit around and wait forever.

VOTE: Dwlee99

You guys are hopeless.


gg scum

~Shiro

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No I am trying to lead this town into lynching scum before our inevitable death tommrow We have had

4 CLAIMS day 1 and you guys, you are pushing for a 5th one. Toog has been on any wagon that isn;t him with no justification no nothing. All he has done is berate us and say how wrong we are and his wagon HAS BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO FORM. not once have we reached l-1 with him and nobody is batting an eyelash at it.

~Shiro

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yah, you did.
im paying more attention to this game than you ppl probably realize

For someone taht is paying attention you are missing how scummy toog is.

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Dwlee wagon is good. He's done fuck all all game to scumhunt and has been coasting. This will get him to do something or die. And the way he reacted to being wagoned was not townie.
Xk's vote was pretty absurdly scummy though.

Because toog has done what ?

~Shiro

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(inb4 Cookie finds that scummy as fuck for being survivalistic or some shit).

I would be laughing too if I were you tbh.

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Gee I don't know, why not Toog?

Oh right he's the one wagon that cannot go despite lying about his role to coast on a VT in a role madness. Then he coasts and votes whatever.

But hey Titus is an asshole so her read must be wrong. Never mind that is exactly how scum discredit rather than respond to substance

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I buy Dwlee's claim. He said we needed doc, which is odd for just conftown with no abilities. It suggests he was planning to refill us.

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And why is it odd for a player to suggest a conftown player get docced?

if anything its null to do so because thats exactly the kind of fluff do do.

In a role madness, protect the power roles not the weaklings. This is basic IMO. How many mislynch candidates do you wagon to claim before you bus?

Thanks X.

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right. because a claimed strongman dayvig is weak?

but sure, sprinkle the shade around.

We were out of shots when Dwlee asked for us to be healed.

You're desperate to paint this as an agenda, dwlee's claim is provable and a bonus to town.

Doc/jailkeeper on us. Dwlee sends refill.

Scum either block Dwlee, murder him or we get two more lynches tomorrow.

None of that is "shade". Your behavior however is attempting to cast shade on the motives of conftown.

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Thanks Clevage.

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Titus, Ive frankly never been very impressed with your technik or ability as a player.

Of course not but very rarely do games where I am town lose. Despite my stubbornness, I get town thinking in a cooperative mindset.

I don't care if you're impressed. I care if scum die.

Doubt casting us only furthers scum. Think I am evil or an asshole. Think I am wrong. Leave ego out of it. What furthers the group wincon? Right now, that's dual lynching and getting rid of liars. Stick to the things that happen in the thread.

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That you're scum and cannot get a mislynch off?

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Funny, you left out Toog's claim too...

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Fine Cleavage.

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*glares*

We do not have a refill.

~Titus

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No offense to Mirhawk but that is the weirdest fucking kill.

-S

You're getting our vote today, but we're telling you how we feel. We made a promise. We stand by it.

~Titus

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<3

So right now, we can deduce that there is a roleblocker that is scum aligned or Dwlee is scum.

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That's very likely accurate, but I don't want to rush things.

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I don't feel comfortable with Pisskop town. Still. Seemed like he was WKing Toog's terrible play.

I can feel good about PW and Cakes. Nahdia is ok for me today.

Scum didn't want a dual lynch today. Is it possible they decided to value the double lynch higher than a cop?

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Pisskop, shut up about us scumreading you if you're town. I'm working with Cleavage at the moment. You're whining like you're entitled to a townread. You're not.

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I don't feel comfortable with Pisskop town.

You think dav reps out like he did as scum?

It matches NY 191 to me. He was genuinely frustrated regardless of his alignment. He generally just had the same tone. Titus sucks, Titus is wrong. The rep out is null.

I want to see Pisskop do something without attacking us as Titus sucks blah blah blah but let the arguments stand without the ad hom. Pisskop does this a lot. In NY 192 RC and I were convinced he was the traitor (partially because I did not read prior to him subbing in). His attacks on Mollie were so anti-town I figured there was no way he was town.

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I role coped cleavage, ya that can't be scum lol.

Why would you role cop instead of using your actual cop powers on someone null or scummy Wth?

Done

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Sweet.

VOTE: beeboy

VOTE: beeboy

I'll presume you want this.

~Titus

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@Cleavage, Give me a little investigation time.

@Beeboy, Does your feedback give a method of verifying that you

actually

rolecopped Cleavage without actually outing their role? For instance an ability flavor name that could belong to multiple characters and doesn't out the role? But Cleavage would be able to confirm that it is their flavor ability?

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@Cleavage, Proving things helps little by little. If beeboy was scum, proving he's a rolecop that copped you would be beneficial. So he's copped you and claims to have a cop shot as well. Confirming his exact claim helps.

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The next step IMO is to take all those claims from yesterday, figure out what they did and get a better picture as a whole.

Beeboy will likely still be the lynch but it's something that should be documented given the number of claims that happened.

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For instance, Dwlee not refilling me... why?

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And if someone else got blocked, it's a direct CC to Dwlee. (For the record, this is why I wanted a roleblock CC to Ari's claim rather than a neighborizer CC).

This is a role madness style game, we should do our homework then lynch Beeboy.

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Also dwlee could still be scum even if scum have a roleblocker yea.
But then why do they choose to block someone random in the dark and not the cop?

Because we'd lynch it?

If there is a scum roleblocker, it'll be in the unverifiable claims.

I can say pretty certainly where Sir Cakez was last night (visited us). Beeboy claims to have visited you (may need to verify). Dwlee will claim to visit me. Mirhawk cannot be the blocker. We aren't (as we are confirmed dayvig town). I'm presuming that Cleavage isn't the roleblocker if Beeboy is town because Beeboy would not say a roleblock claim is autotown but autoscum at this point and Beeboy wouldn't likely claim the roleblocker is cleared as scum. Toog can't be the roleblocker because dead.

Pisskop, X, Nahdia, Ari, PW and Chaos Omega <--- those are the only places where the roleblocker should be if Dwlee is town. This can be narrowed down if anyone else is alibied as not visiting Dwlee. If we run into a setup where there is no roleblocker, we can lynch Dwlee and be pretty certain he's scum regardless of what he says.

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Right, with the caveat scum might or might be able to kill and take an action at the same time.

Can scum perform a night action and perform the factional kill during the same night?

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I can doc and rolecop on the same night if I wanted.

What the fuck?

Can you give your

exact

claim?

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Confirmed powerless and discredited conftown = dumb nightkill.

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I can doc and rolecop on the same night if I wanted.

royal something: rolecop infinite
tri-force: 1-shot cop

I said this already.

Huh?

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Hey Titus head will be vla tomorrow.

It's my 30th birthday.

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Shiro still here through, watchign what everyone's doing.

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I think Beeboy is probably scum but I'm scared to lynch and obviously not going to vote now since he's at L-1 and idk I wish there was more discussion today or whatever???

Yo, you need to sit down and think. Would roxy be afraid to plunge in and do it? Most likely not because she would be too drunk.

With this newfound knowledge of your avatars power, harness it and do what is right.

In the words of the great philoshopher



Signed, Shiro <3

P.S

I feel q little sad inside because in our absence more discussion flourished. . And tbh I wouldn't much care if toog had flipped scum buuuut he kind of didn't.

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This is like the most awkward conversation ever

~Shiro

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Like I am suddenly legit scared that beeboy is town and scum are afraid of hammering cop

~Shiro

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But then again, it could be all town wagon and scum not wanting to hammer their buddy.

P.edit

Nahdia, The hussie esque thing would be to stop all discussion and continue the gane in a year OR to start talking about sweaty man and horses.

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These last few pages remind me why I play this game.

Good for you man I forgot a long time ago.

Obviously for those moments you correctly dayvig and feel like top dog, all around epic.

You know exactly the opposite of us day 1. :p

Picking this up

And

@Cleavage Kind of how I felt about Toog. Titus was more ok with it, saying he deserved it for being so anti town.

I was bleh

~Shiro

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can we PLEASE lynch Xkfyu he's SOOOO SCUMMM

Nah

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@Cleavage

What progression? He scumread him from start to finish.

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What progression? He scumread him from start to finish.

Exactly.

Well tbh, me and Titus still agree that the possibility pisskop wked toog is extremely high.

Sorry ;~;

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Well tbh, me and Titus still agree that the possibility pisskop wked toog is extremely high.

Didn't he say to shoot toog, though?

No, Dav wanted us to shoot Ari and lynch beeboy. Pisskop was saying that we follow and what we want (which implied to shoot toog) Then 180 and defended him to death.

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Unvote

I have been emotionally compromised by the boy with the bees.

I think bee needs yo hint his result to cleavage to at least verify he is a rolecop

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But yea let's let him one more night and kill someone else.

Tbh itbwoukd make sense for scum to leave him since he is lynchbait

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That was Shiro If it wasn't obv

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It is very likely Titus won't agree with what I just did so chill.

What's your hurry anyway?

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I agree with Sensei and Shiro here. I am not sure I want one more day of beeboy but I want that confirmation.

Pisskop, Day 1 wasn't ruined by us. We got two flips based on solid reasoning.

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In the meantime let's have some tunes

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A homestuck themed game needs to happen.

P.edit

Nahdia can't be scum D: She is my homestuck buddy D:


Also cleavage is too town, obvtowning it since day 1

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@Beeboy

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Pisskop is like my only townread right now. (which means he's probably scum)

Ok that is an unfair thing to say, I dare say we are pretty damn town.