Mini 1729 - History Mafia II END

[Metal Sonic]

Sounds fun!!!! Hi teacher!!!

[Metal Sonic]

dear mod, could you please list hydras and their heads in the OP? Thanks!

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OMG THERES BBT!!!!

[Metal Sonic]

I'm town!

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VOTE: call of the wild

For not sonic booming!!

[Metal Sonic]

the last time we had sex we ended up losing

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VOTE: scorpious scorpions are bad

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should we even be talking about sex and alcohol in year 7 history class?????

mr nexus is gonna send us to the principals office if he hears us.....

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VOTE: Kt

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VOTE: Kt

naked votes make me cringe

sex makes you cringe

[Metal Sonic]

what's the name of that boy? we should tell a teacher

[Metal Sonic]

I think I am sanic this game but we'll see

[Metal Sonic]

Wolf have sex with cat

[Metal Sonic]

I don't have boobs

[Metal Sonic]

Dwlee is town

[Metal Sonic]

You actually do but it can be fixed we don't hate you

[Metal Sonic]

It just sounds really new and childish

Don't worry it will get better

[Metal Sonic]

I promise to stop shitposting tomorrow. I just need some sleep.

~SW

BTW-I voted for gummybear for wordy posts that say nothing.

Gummy bear is obvtown lol

[Metal Sonic]

Cooties? Did kt give me cooties?

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I'm a doctor I can't get cooties

[Metal Sonic]

Do wolf get cooties? Maybe the doctor needs to check...

[Metal Sonic]

I'm obvtown

[Metal Sonic]

Sonic wolfboom is good

Unless you have cooties

[Metal Sonic]

thats cool

I don't have cooties

I want to know if you have cooties

[Metal Sonic]

What interactions with KT btw?





the pun is, there aren't any

[Metal Sonic]

He's boring

Incidentally I don't know what cooties are, I will probably google that later

Or not

[Metal Sonic]

How is that a problem

[Metal Sonic]

He just doesn't seem to fun to interact with

[Metal Sonic]

if you want to sonic wolfboom you should probably unvote and nevere do that again

[Metal Sonic]

cool gummybear is obvtown

[Metal Sonic]

Why?

because masons dont vote each other

if you are voting me it means you are not a mason

[Metal Sonic]

Why?

because masons dont vote each other

if you are voting me it means you are not a mason

Wifom. If we're masons, can't claim it.

I got serious issues with KT. Why are you not challenging him? He wants a fight.

I don't fight kids

[Metal Sonic]

Are you claiming mason?

Not officially. :-p

I'm claiming uncover all boobies.

Wait I was talking to MS. o-o

Not officially. :-p

I'm claiming uncover all cooties.

[Metal Sonic]

Why?

because masons dont vote each other

if you are voting me it means you are not a mason

Wifom. If we're masons, can't claim it.

I got serious issues with KT. Why are you not challenging him? He wants a fight.

I don't fight kids

And me?

You don't have kids

[Metal Sonic]

Are you claiming mason?

Not officially. :-p

I'm claiming uncover all boobies.

Wait I was talking to MS. o-o

Not officially. :-p

I'm claiming uncover all cooties.

#Sonic claims IRL not an American.

Damn I've been caught


Gonna google what cooties is before I use that word


#Sonic has been discovered as Foreign Alien

[Metal Sonic]

Why?

because masons dont vote each other

if you are voting me it means you are not a mason

Wifom. If we're masons, can't claim it.

I got serious issues with KT. Why are you not challenging him? He wants a fight.

I don't fight kids

And me?

You don't have kids

KT signed up. He can take a full on attack from MS. That is unless you're scared.

Scared of what

[Metal Sonic]

Oh I'm a moron

Cooties are harmless

I thought it was slang for some STD

crabs are a different thing I think???

[Metal Sonic]

I am certainly not clicking on the link that says "images of pubic lice"

[Metal Sonic]

What is information instead of analysis? Do you know what that means?

[Metal Sonic]

Titus where did you go. Hurry up and be a mason

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naked is the name of the game!!

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Dwlee is town is not a fact

Gummy is town is not a fact

Unless you know they are facts????

Omg scum

[Metal Sonic]

It relates to the game because I am masons with call of the wild

[Metal Sonic]

I need to feel good about plot

If plot and CotW are both town then we might be able to become super powered town

[Metal Sonic]

Maybe bbt is easier to read

I know his scum game is really good but I feel more comfortable with him

[Metal Sonic]

That was my nice way of saying I don't think his experience is translating here no matter how many games he may have played elsewhere.

I love people like you



I love spiffeh

[Metal Sonic]

The game related posts (especially 329) seem more like information instead of analysis to me. Might move my vote to Sonic.

Didn't you just defend Sonic like the page before?

Maybe bbt is easier to read

I know his scum game is really good but I feel more comfortable with him

MS, we appear to have similar thoughts this game.

Talk to me about CotW and Spiffeh.

~BBT

PEdit - OK, are you still scum reading Gummy?

Null on spiffeh, can't remember anything he posted

I'm not sure on CotW, I want Titus to be town but she is not obvtowning yet. I have a 100% read rating on Titus cause I know her really well so I am v confident about reading that slot.

[Metal Sonic]

I need to feel good about plot

If plot and CotW are both town then we might be able to become super powered town

I need to feel good about you too. But I don't yet. And I'm not sure how to fix it. Do you come with a checklist? Titus and Mastin have checklists. I started making a checklist for myself but I only have one thing on it so far and it was mostly tongue in cheek.

Also, to everyone towning sir bastion, can you break that dowb for me?

From me it's just some early towncred given for being one of the first to start moving away from the rvs circus and into scumhunting but I haven't been paying much attention to him yet.

Looking at him in ISO, I don't mind his scorpious push. Most of his posts seem to be complaining about the noise which is something I sympathise with strongly because this game would be only 2 pages long if we took out all the fluff. That may be affecting my read on him though it's a poor reason to townread someone.

I take it you're scumreading him?

So you're not concerned about MS's lack of aggression?

I am.

--P

Metal sonic checklist:

Do I spam "I am obvtown repeatedly after I lynched scum like a super sonic?": town
Do I spam "I am town repeatedly for no apparent reason and I haven't lynched scum yet?": scum



So easy

[Metal Sonic]

The above is actually true by the way

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See Dwlee is town

Tunneling is town

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When done by newbs

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See Dwlee is town

Tunneling is town

When done by newbs

I tunnelled as newb scum. You oughta know that.

Sort me.

~Titus

You are on the side of scummy

Because you are not mason

[Metal Sonic]

No. Not side of. Sort me. Get your 100% read.

~Titus

I am sorting you the entire time

It's an ongoing process

Like an antivirus

[Metal Sonic]

^towm post

[Metal Sonic]

Remember that Plotinus is capable of walls regardless of alignment

[Metal Sonic]

plotinus i say for the sake of your slot get bbt on the line

i am going to destroy you if i cannot get a townread on him within 72 hours


this is a warning

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VOTE: beardedcat

[Metal Sonic]

nah it happened to me too, site is messed up



funny titus cause im townreading SW moer than you

[Metal Sonic]

i cant catch your crumbs titus

[Metal Sonic]

what are plus minus interactions


can me+CotW+spiffeh put votes on plotinus? lets see wwhat happens.

[Metal Sonic]

SW vote BC with me

[Metal Sonic]

well he hasnt been here enough

[Metal Sonic]

i'll write an essay for u bby

if i confirm that they're scum

[Metal Sonic]

come on spiff will you bandwagon with us or not

we all see the same issues so lets do it

[Metal Sonic]

im seriously not catching any of your crumbs titus

[Metal Sonic]

im townreading SW for having exact same thoughts as me

titus, not hitting town notes

really dont like that

[Metal Sonic]

i'll figure her out in due time

im more concerned about sorting her than them sorting me

[Metal Sonic]

Yet, he's hedging.

yeah thats because i dont want to blow my 100% read, stupid

[Metal Sonic]

still have no idea about boobies and gay man

some flavor claim definitely but shit i dont do history

[Metal Sonic]

i cannot make sense of your crumbs

i ignore what i dont know

[Metal Sonic]

that doesnt help me

[Metal Sonic]

your staunch refusal to sonic boom is annoying at best

[Metal Sonic]

im townreading SW for having exact same thoughts as me

titus, not hitting town notes

really dont like that

Why are you thinking that I am not hitting town notes when you think I've crumbed?

~Titus

This is a good point actually. MS you say you haven't figured out Titus yet but you are saying she is crumbing which assumes she is town?

umm no

crumbing does not assume a player is town

[Metal Sonic]

Until SW has a really strong scum read, I am vote parking you until you figure out I am town.

I don't boom with scum.

well done for doing that in temple game

it sure helps me figure out you're town

[Metal Sonic]

What do you want to talk about gummy? He is transparently town, his posts show a lot of town motivation

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: Aristophanes

dont change vote. please remain on beardedcat.



don't mind the ari ignoring this game. it is admittedly, fairly slow.

anyway he was MVP in mafia cafe, i wouldn't think he would be bad as scum for that to be a tell


(psst: BBT is ignoring this game too. vote him back!)

[Metal Sonic]

I'm not liking BeardedCat's 519 - it pings me. Their hydra is incredibly good at scum, so it sounds like coaching to gain towncred.

Two important things stand out to me from BeardedCat's post:

1) Trying to defuse the situation and subtly create a feel of double standards with the why are people picking on Scorp's readslist but not mine line of thought.

In the first place, to me - it was not the reads list itself that was most scummy, but the timing thereof. The scumminess of the readslists itself is only a secondary point to that. Moreover, this is a point that Bearded stated himself, and was the trigger to starting the whole focus on Scorp's readslist. Pings me as odd, and makes me also want to look at other people attacking Scorp for readslist - what are they criticising him for? Wanted to look at CoTW's reaction to this, but inconclusive

2) The intention of the post

The tone of this post is very conciliatory, admittedly because of his previous IC experience with Scorp and everything. But it seems to me a little too much to offer in terms of depth and at just the right time too where Scorp has given up, especially when Bearded is not an IC in this game. It seems almost designed to earn the trust of the player. Most suspiciously, in 532, he shows that his read on Scorp is still as scummy, claiming it's a work in progress and that he's a little less scummy (but doesn't state why).

I'm finding it hard to believe that the coaching post would come from a town mentality towards a slot they are scumreading. The only thing I can think of is that it's a reaction test to fish for reactions from Scorp and the rest. With the way the post has been engineered and timed, I don't think it's a good reaction test on Scorp's alignment - as both scum and Town, his reaction would be the same - be grateful, and then follow the coached points.

It sounds more like Beardedscum/3P to Scorptown perspective, because it would gain huge trust from Scorp, and Scorp will probably still play bad enough that he can be carried to LyLo or at least saved as a mislynch for another day.

Townreading Scorp because of the genuineness of his posts and he looks like he's trying to figure stuff out. I have one completed game with him where I identified him as scum very easily. Don't think this is the case.

So, it looks like BeardedCat trying to gain favor and towncred.

I'm not the only player that has found issues with her posts, apparently.

[Metal Sonic]

The reason I've been so weird about sonic this game so far is that I didn't know how to talk to or about him without talking about WiFoM City. And I was still salty from what happened and I didn't know how to sort him without it being a rematch and I don't want it to be a rematch where I lynch him just because I'm mad about being lynched in some other game. I want to lynch him because he's scum if he is. But the way he's misrepresenting BBT's activity levels is bad.

Never misrepresented him. he was never here.

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tbh-I made that observation as an observation, and to see if I could get Ari back in here as I have done that before. Said so and so it posting elsewhere and that often gets them into the game-and usually a little irritated with me as well, which is good for reads too in a way. Ari didn't see it probs cuz he's not active lurking here or decided to ignore it and so it's more null than scum. This is of course just this one tell/reaction test which is pretty much gonna become useless in the future as I keep explaining it.

pedit: good point on Sonic if he's misrepping BBT

Titus is convinced Sonic is scum so I will consult with her on this.

~SW

tell titus that i'll powerlynch her if she keeps up this behavior

alternatively, i could do it myself.


titus i'm town. i don't know if you're town or not and you're leaning towards scum. i'm always nice to give you time to obvtown up, but if you fail to do so, you're a guaranteed lynch. theres a 100% chance you're losing this 1v1. dont mess with me

[Metal Sonic]

You said "he's ignoring this game" as if it were only this game that he's ignoring. he's ignoring the entire website. perhaps he's ignoring the rest of the internet too. And tyou did it in response to someone saying that Ari was posting elsewhere so it sounded like you were saying that BBT was posting elsewhere but he's not.

will reply to longer post but still haven't coffeed yet or breakfasted.

--P

he has been ignoring this game since the start of this game.

i don't think this is a point that you want to push me on. i can slam dunk you if i feel that >90% certainty that you're scum

same warning to titus. SW is making me feel good so I'm going to let her be for now

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Yeah I saw. I was scum in a previous game with him and wrecked town.

Your posts are still scummy

CoTW if you are town boom with me and vote bearded.

Spiffeh don't remove your vote

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Metal-You seem to be confused here. Anything you say to Titus, you are saying to me. If you threaten to powerlynch Titus, you are threatening to powerlynch me. If you go after her, you go after me.

Titus doesn't obvtown. I can if I feel like it. You haven't played with me much but I don't put up with threats or intimidation tactics.

~SW

Yeah I get that.

My Titus read overrides my read on you. I have a 100% read rating on her and played with her in many games. I've only known you because you abandoned the scum team in team mafia

Oddly, I am townreading you off generic criteria, but that only buys you a game day or teo

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lol that's funny

But I don't have a 100% read on you either

[Metal Sonic]

Tell Titus how miserably she is failing if she thinks I am scum



Can you please put your vote back on bearded? Thank you.

[Metal Sonic]

That's another point against titus

[Metal Sonic]

Please sign

[Metal Sonic]

Assume 644 by bbt but please confirm

[Metal Sonic]

Bbt tell me about how town you are

Reach out to me

[Metal Sonic]

My job is to sort out your hydra and Titus hydra

Scum reading both of you but can't see you both on same scum team so I want to know who is town

[Metal Sonic]

Talk about what. I have reasons to scumread plot and I cannot give you benefit of doubt because /you weren't here/

[Metal Sonic]

@plot my current theory is you scum scorp town.

Because townreading scorp

[Metal Sonic]

Well I forgot about spiffeh and I forgot your reach out


Not obvious enough I guess

[Metal Sonic]

Saying that you are town doesn't do much for me. We're all experts, you know as well as I do that doesn't work

Try something else

[Metal Sonic]

If I forgot about it then it wasn't memorable or obvious enough

You can re quote but I wouldn't call that a successful reach out

[Metal Sonic]

Lol ok that was mildly effective

I'm not using wifom city to read you. You might as well be town there. I poe you that was all. Salamence wax the one who caught you.

[Metal Sonic]

The only thing that I got from wifom city was that you are good as scum. That is it.

I know BBT

So your slot has higher standards

[Metal Sonic]

Or they were all town that saw issues with you

[Metal Sonic]

^this is a good line of questioning

[Metal Sonic]

I just wrote a post that explained my scumread on you -___-

[Metal Sonic]

I am town reading SW but scumreading Titus. Titus read takes precedence

[Metal Sonic]

So why are you calling it town posting if you think it's coming from a scum slot?

Scum slots can do town posting, good sir



And also I'm townreading SW head

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Right, but the way you phrase it makes it sound like you're town reading the slot.

You should make your mind up because you're hedging pretty badly right now and that's scummy.

Hedging is not scummy

Hedging means unsure

[Metal Sonic]

^this is a good line of questioning

Please talk to me about how this phrasing means I am townreading the slot


Come on

[Metal Sonic]

You are all my friends and I don't want to mislynch any of you

Your quick shift to scumread me is noted though

Still doesn't help me

[Metal Sonic]

HAHAHAHAHA you piece of shit

I'm townreading them precisely for the sole reason that SW is sheeping ME on my scumread on you

You think you can get me lynched? No Bueno. I'll get YOU lynched

[Metal Sonic]

^this is a good line of questioning

Please talk to me about how this phrasing means I am townreading the slot

OK, let's talk.

Tell me, why would you highlight 'good questioning' that you think is coming from scum?

Because it helps me get a read on both of your slots. Simple as that.

If I thought they were scum 100%, they would be dying.

The fact that I haven't amassed 5 votes on them yet proves otherwise.

[Metal Sonic]

Try again. Prove your statement that I was townreading SW before she mentioned to lynch you.


The comment is good. I want to know which one of you is town or if both of you are town. I am simply not seeing our triangle as having two scum.

Bottom line is if I am sure you are scum you die. Simple as that

[Metal Sonic]

The comment says asks you why you aren't looking at the wago speed of other wagons. And ask why you assume the wagon on you can't be all town. It looks at your thought process I don't remember your response.

[Metal Sonic]

Wrong. Looking for town sharing same thought process as I do.

Still waiting for you to provide quotes to prove your argument

[Metal Sonic]

The comment says asks you why you aren't looking at the wago speed of other wagons. And ask why you assume the wagon on you can't be all town. It looks at your thought process I don't remember your response.

Well, I responded so you should go look that up.

You're STILL dodging the questions though.

1. How does that comment help you get reads? (Don't tell me what the comment was, don't tell me how you read it, tell me how it helps you get reads)

2. Why would you highlight good questioning from a scum slot?

1. Your response will be alignment indicative. The subsequent coverssgio with CotW I don't know what response you will give and I cannot Predict what I will seek to find

2. I don't know they are a scum slot and I might be wrong about them

[Metal Sonic]

Wrong. Looking for town sharing same thought process as I do.

Still waiting for you to provide quotes to prove your argument

I don't know what you're talking about here.

If you haven't read the game closely because you were behind

Then I strong suggest you do before talking bs

[Metal Sonic]

But your scum read took precedence! You're acting like your town read was taking precedence and that's why you're OK with them.

Your thought process is all over the place here. I'm done.

MS is scum and votes should be piling on accordingly.

~BBT

Listen carefully. My scumread took precedence, but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt BECAUSE I have a reason to doubt it. I said many times I need a 90%> confirmation in order to powerlynch someone

You have still yet to prove your wrong point about me townreading SW prematurely

[Metal Sonic]

I am not done with you get your smarmy ass bac

[Metal Sonic]

If you cut the conversation here I am going to take that as admission of guilt


I am going to give you time because you might be busy IRL

[Metal Sonic]

CotW ignoring this thread. But it's SW, so that's fine

[Metal Sonic]

Cause no comments

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Fair

[Metal Sonic]

Despite all the posting, I'm still not townreading BeardedCat. It's kind of a gut bad feeling. I'll have to look into them more.

~SW

From this post.

After they expressed suspicion on you

It's like you're proving me right

[Metal Sonic]

The problem with your argument is that I give a fuck about you but I don't give a fuck about KT.

[Metal Sonic]

SW, a recent scum game of Titus just ended where she literally vote parked me the entire game and got me lynch. If your slot is town, that is clearly not the right way to "sort me out". Titus is being weird here and weird = scummy

[Metal Sonic]

And the games that I had a 100% read on, I replaced into games that Titus had already posted content but without knowledge that I would enter the game, thus posting in her normal posting style. Since we are starting this game together, there is not enough content for me to approve the 100% read yet, and also she could be trying to adapt her play to my presence if she is scum. Titus should know this. Her vote parking on me smells really bad.

[Metal Sonic]

Weird =not normal = scummy. So yes. I am very clear what is scummy and what is not for you.

I don't give a fuck about KT. He is a fly and I am a man.

You are the wolf, you have more of my attention.

[Metal Sonic]

I am ignoring all you LBGT references cause I have no clue what they refer to. Sorry girl

[Metal Sonic]

And 75% is not enough darling

[Metal Sonic]

The only thing that caught my attention in that post was "Bellaphant?!"

[Metal Sonic]

Bellaphant, you can see them in my wiki, I just updated it

My last scum game was the Marquis game where you were an IC but got replaced

[Metal Sonic]

is your scum tactic to get SW to post towny looking posts and yourself to post obviously scum posts to confuse me?

[Metal Sonic]

i wanted to comment on 752 but i decided to wait and see

[Metal Sonic]

bellaphant you are a LOT more verbose than you were in marquis game... and you were an IC there.

maybe you have more time or are tying harder, but pardon me if i find it unusual.

[Metal Sonic]

good. show me you're town and you'll get a penguin cookie

[Metal Sonic]

are you scumreading scorpious? i am townreading him.

[Metal Sonic]

i think he is giving reads and that points towards him town

[Metal Sonic]

no. 100% serious

[Metal Sonic]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63034 Persona 4 Mafia

I caught him immediately and tunnelled his ass. he's not hard to read. or at least I'd like to think that

[Metal Sonic]

his reads look real